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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:24:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy:


Harvest of Despair (Holodomor) The 1933 Ukrainian Famine Documentary (7 - 12 million Ukrainians starved to death in the largest genocide by famine in world history) - This is on BitChute, YouTube has it but it is only viewable with age verification.

I don't get the members here who don't understand genocide. The Holodomor was not the only mass genocide to erase Ukrainian history, ethnicity, language, and culture by Muscovy/"Russia", there were many more going back several hundreds of years. They need to also study "Russification".
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Hitler gets all the infamy, but Stalin was at least as bad.   Stalin killed as many Ukrainians in a year as Hitler killed Jews, in all of Europe,  in a decade.  

Stalin specifically targeted people that were self sufficient and stole their food, giving it to the far more controllable and allied citizens of Russian cities. He made scrounging for dropped grain in their own fields a crime punishable by death.  Then he just let winter do it's thing.

History does not remember the Holodomor anywhere near as well as it should.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:24:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
This was brokered by the West.



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Good!

Armenia leaves CSTO, and Europe gets Azerbaijani gas and oil
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:24:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RSM:
US Govt sinks a lot of things to benefit citizens.

Ships (including aircraft carriers), planes and armored vehicles.

Usually private money is used to pay for the the removal of hazardous materials and the cost of the sinking.

The beneficiaries are sports fisherman, predator and game fish and scuba/free divers and the local industries that support those activities.
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See my sigline
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:26:48 PM EDT
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Russian Army Will Be 'Annihilated' if Putin Nukes Ukraine: Borrell
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High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrel.

By Alisa Orlova for Kyiv Post
Published Oct. 13 at 4:57 pm



EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell warned Moscow on Thursday, Oct.13, that its forces would be "annihilated" by the West's military response if President Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

"Putin is saying he is not bluffing. Well, he cannot afford bluffing, and it has to be clear that the people supporting Ukraine and the European Union and the Member States, and the United States and NATO are not bluffing neither," Borrell said at the opening of a Diplomatic Academy in Brussels.

"Any nuclear attack against Ukraine will create an answer, not a nuclear answer but such a powerful answer from the military side that the Russian Army will be annihilated."

Fears that Moscow could use a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine have grown after Putin issued veiled threats as he staged the annexation of four occupied regions in the face of loses on the battlefield.

NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg has warned Russia it faces "severe consequences" if it launches a nuclear attack on its pro-Western neighbor.

"There would be a sharp response   almost certainly drawing a physical response from many allies, and potentially from NATO itself," a senior NATO official said Wednesday.

But the alliance has stopped short of threatening to use its nuclear arsenal to respond as non-member Ukraine is not covered by its self-defence clause.




Gen. Petreus said the same thing last week.
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In my mind Putin wouldn't use nukes until that's already happened.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:27:15 PM EDT
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Are wooden props commonplace in drone technology is this an Iranian innovation?
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:31:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Hitler gets all the infamy, but Stalin was at least as bad.   Stalin killed as many Ukrainians in a year as Hitler killed Jews, in all of Europe,  in a decade.  

Stalin specifically targeted people that were self sufficient and stole their food, giving it to the far more controllable and allied citizens of Russian cities. He made scrounging for dropped grain in their own fields a crime punishable by death.  Then he just let winter do it's thing.

History does not remember the Holodomor anywhere near as well as it should.
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Didn't some journalist at the New York Times get a Pulitzer for his work showing that everything was just peachy in the Ukraine at that time?
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:33:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PM4E:


Are wooden props commonplace in drone technology is this an Iranian innovation?
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

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Are wooden props commonplace in drone technology is this an Iranian innovation?


It did stand out to me as well.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:34:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PM4E:


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I would think a wooden prop would be more low tech but easier to turn them out.  A single operator could feed several of the wooden duplication lathes (19th century tech) and turn out a lot of them. Just a guess, I am no expert, but I have seen wooden duplication lathes operate (at Silver Dollar City) and they are pretty slick.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:37:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


Didn't some journalist at the New York Times get a Pulitzer for his work showing that everything was just peachy in the Ukraine at that time?
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The Pulitzer is pretty soundly discredited at this point, at least to anyone paying attention.   I believe there were some handed out for coverage of Trump that later turned out to be completely false.

No retractions were forthcoming.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:39:24 PM EDT
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Russian fighter jets fire missiles in explosive combat drills from the sky
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:41:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PM4E:


Are wooden props commonplace in drone technology is this an Iranian innovation?
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Wood is common in propeller driven aircraft, these drones are not much different.  Wood props are common in RC as well.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:44:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:48:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:


HIRM-2 was, allegedly, like 6 months from IOC back in Feb ‘22. 500 kg warhead. ATACMs is like half that in terms of warhead size. I’m still leaning on the SVBIED method given the size of the damage. One day the truth will come out.

Looks like Chuck is all-in on the missile theory.

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It would need a much bigger warhead to do what it did to that bridge. I think 2000Kg from the look of that explosion.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:49:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:52:27 PM EDT
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Smokers at it again.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:56:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:58:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


Didn't some journalist at the New York Times get a Pulitzer for his work showing that everything was just peachy in the Ukraine at that time?
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NYT journalists treated everybody equally, they willingly failed to report not only Holodomor but years later Holocaust.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 12:59:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Waldo:


Tempting target.
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With all those truckers it would be really bad if a few of them were careless smokers.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:01:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:02:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AeroEngineer:
Apparently sone GD posters are upset the Russian invaders are being called “orcs”.  This is a very dehumanizing term, and very mean to the poor Russians.
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Yeah. That one made my head hurt a little.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:03:11 PM EDT
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Kherson updates expected soon.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:04:04 PM EDT
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lol, Poland, you getting scary.

Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:04:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

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I guffawed.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:05:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:05:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Circuits:

The west does not have to use nukes to annihilate Russian forces. That's kind of the differentiator between the east and the west.
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That is true. But the assholes in the Kremlin dont care about "Russian forces", but they do care about their own asses. They should be made to fear getting nuked in their 5-Star bunkers where they are now laughing, eating caviar and giving zero fucks about their troops.

Trump, like he told the taliban, would let them know that THEY are the #1 target of ANY retaliation.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:05:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


Didn't some journalist at the New York Times get a Pulitzer for his work showing that everything was just peachy in the Ukraine at that time?
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Originally Posted By xd341:
Hitler gets all the infamy, but Stalin was at least as bad.   Stalin killed as many Ukrainians in a year as Hitler killed Jews, in all of Europe,  in a decade.  

Stalin specifically targeted people that were self sufficient and stole their food, giving it to the far more controllable and allied citizens of Russian cities. He made scrounging for dropped grain in their own fields a crime punishable by death.  Then he just let winter do it's thing.

History does not remember the Holodomor anywhere near as well as it should.


Didn't some journalist at the New York Times get a Pulitzer for his work showing that everything was just peachy in the Ukraine at that time?


Yes, they did. The Dems at the time used Duranty’s articles to smear those who tried to reveal the truth about the Holodomor.  
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:06:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DonKey153:
Smokers at it again.
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Russia desperately needs smoking cessation training. Probably some alcohol abuse, and sexual assault counseling, too.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:08:29 PM EDT
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Russia: Bakhmut is gonna be ours. Wagner and friends have been on it for a month+!
Ukraine: LOL WUT?


FYI - Those trenches and dragons teef are like 30 km east from here.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:09:39 PM EDT
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Any guesses as to what the range was on those sniper shots?  

4-500 yards would be my guess, based on the relative size of the silhouette...but I don't know how close to "real size" a thermal silhouette is.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:11:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I feel sorry for those men. Their government attempted to murder them just to grease their tank treads. I hope every Mobik gets a chance to surrender.
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I think the idea is to just stuff people into the front lines to slow down Ukraine military while more russian soldiers are more properly trained.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:11:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, Poland, you getting scary.

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Dude, they're going to be a little Super power in that region pretty soon. It'll be like the little kid that got bullied his whole life..... who bulked up to become a professional body builder.... who also is a elite jujitsu martial artist.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:13:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, Poland, you getting scary.

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Did they find a couple trillion dollar bills in their coat pocket?  They are not taking half measures.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:13:42 PM EDT
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That reads like he converted to Islam.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:16:32 PM EDT
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"Russian tank drives straight into row of Ukrainian mines and explodes"
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Russian tank drives straight into row of Ukrainian mines and explodes
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:20:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Did they find a couple trillion dollar bills in their coat pocket?  They are not taking half measures.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, Poland, you getting scary.

Did they find a couple trillion dollar bills in their coat pocket?  They are not taking half measures.


They already ordered almost 5 billion dollars worth of M1 Abrams, plus the new ballistic missile defense systems. 96 Apache helicopter gunships, etc.

I feel safer, and hope the rest of Europe follows suit actually.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:25:39 PM EDT
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Fucking monsters.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:32:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jman1984:
It wont be long before people say "I don't care" or "Fuck Ukraine" or "good".  If people said this about Israel they would get banned before people could even finish dog pilling them.  And if Trump was President all of these people would be cheering Trumps brilliant dismantling of Russia and would be cheering the Ukrainians on.
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So genocide?


Genocide, ethnic cleansing, whatever you want to call it. There is now doubt Russia's intention is to erase Ukraine and any Ukrainians who disagree. Anyone who can't admit this is in denial or supports it.

Want some fun?

Drop this into any of the numerous "Eleventy Billion MORE for teh corrupt Zalinskee!" threads in GD and watch the howls start.
It wont be long before people say "I don't care" or "Fuck Ukraine" or "good".  If people said this about Israel they would get banned before people could even finish dog pilling them.  And if Trump was President all of these people would be cheering Trumps brilliant dismantling of Russia and would be cheering the Ukrainians on.



The left did SO much damage to this country with a stolen election via vote fraud; you are describing one avenue of that damage.

We are likely only seeing a fraction of the total damage to be inflicted on this country before the current Pretendent's term is done.  I'm glad that Ukraine is doing so well despite the circumstances, at least.
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This is a regular annual exercise btw.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:37:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Fucking monsters.
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I can't believe people are so ignorant to think this isn't genocide.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:39:20 PM EDT
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This place will look like an Indian beach. Imagine the smell.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:42:40 PM EDT
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Russian Army Will Be 'Annihilated' If Putin Nukes Ukraine: Borrell
Russian Army Will Be 'Annihilated' If Putin Nukes Ukraine: Borrell

By AFP - Agence France PresseOctober 13, 2022
ADDS Stoltenberg comments

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell warned Moscow on Thursday its forces would be "annihilated" by the West's military response if President Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

"Putin is saying he is not bluffing. Well, he cannot afford bluffing, and it has to be clear that the people supporting Ukraine and the European Union and the Member States, and the United States and NATO are not bluffing neither," Borrell said at the opening of a Diplomatic Academy in Belgium.

"Any nuclear attack against Ukraine will create an answer, not a nuclear answer but such a powerful answer from the military side that the Russian Army will be annihilated."

Fears that Moscow could use a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine have grown after Putin issued veiled threats as he staged the annexation of four occupied regions in the face of losses on the battlefield.

NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg has warned Russia of "severe consequences" if it launches a nuclear attack on its pro-Western neighbour.

"We will not go into exactly how we will respond but of course, this will fundamentally changed the nature of the conflict," Stoltenberg said.

"Even any use of smaller nuclear weapons will be a very serious thing."

A senior NATO official on Wednesday said that use of a nuclear weapon by Russia in Ukraine would result in "almost certainly drawing a physical response from many allies, and potentially from NATO itself".

The alliance has stopped short of threatening to use its nuclear arsenal to respond as non-member Ukraine is not covered by its mutual self-defence clause.

The US and NATO has so far steered clear of intervening militarily in the Ukraine conflict for fear of sparking a catastrophic nuclear conflict with Moscow.

"The fundamental purpose of NATO's nuclear deterrent is to preserve peace and deter aggression and prevent coercion against NATO allies," Stoltenberg said.

"Circumstances in which NATO might have to use nuclear weapons are extremely remote."
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:46:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


They already ordered almost 5 billion dollars worth of M1 Abrams, plus the new ballistic missile defense systems. 96 Apache helicopter gunships, etc.

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Poland is seizing the opportunity to become the dominant Army in Europe and has zero interest in European systems that aren’t domestic
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:50:09 PM EDT
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Wow, no one saw that coming with Vlad’s recent comments re: gas pipeline and hub in Turkey and the Nord Stream “incidents”.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:50:44 PM EDT
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Didn't some journalist at the New York Times get a Pulitzer for his work showing that everything was just peachy in the Ukraine at that time?
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Yes. There is a movie about exactly that. "Mr. Jones" Very strangely, it was up on Netflix for about a week (where I saw it) but now it's been taken down. It seems...strange it suddenly disappeared after being in the top 10 and is "Not available in your country." Ugh, weird to say the least.

Anyhow, it's a pretty haunting movie in the same vain as Schindler's List, but it is worth a watch. Some of the scenes are just downright horrifying, but I think they did their best to depict the real suffering of starvation and how bad Stalin was.
Link Posted: 10/13/2022 1:51:34 PM EDT
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I have a feeling this is part of Ukraines army of drones campaign, where you could ship your drones to them for use on the battlefield.  God only knows some of the stuff that might have been sent to them.
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Motorcycle racing stickers (Valentino Rossi) on a Ukrainian drone

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/486333/QVWMnCJChI0itLANwtZtP3HWeNNOuDTYmo6R-SBo-2561292.JPG



I have a feeling this is part of Ukraines army of drones campaign, where you could ship your drones to them for use on the battlefield.  God only knows some of the stuff that might have been sent to them.

Send them a dildo so they can attach it to a mortar round and drop it into a trench or a tank.

The video would be epic!
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