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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:08:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Well why would Russia not be flying those planes if they already had pilots? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By stone-age: What makes you believe russia has fresh planes but not pilots for them? New planes sounds like bad news to me. 1 - pretending they can maintain force elsewhere 2 - they had been afraid of Ukrainian air defense but are taking a "Leroy Jenkins" approach to try and show some progress no matter how many assets they lose |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wish granted.
Very freaky. Instead of the "Flying Dutchman" we get the "Rolling Russian" ghost tank. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:10:24 PM EDT
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I think the info graphics show Russia losing around 250 planes. Is it really possible they don't have enough pilots?
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I really have no idea what the russians have. If they are bringing planes out of storage knowing they don't have anybody to fly the planes, fine. The planes can sit idle outside instead of sitting idle inside. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By m35ben: The planes are coming out of storage. Are Russian pilots doing a time share with planes. I really have no idea what the russians have. If they are bringing planes out of storage knowing they don't have anybody to fly the planes, fine. The planes can sit idle outside instead of sitting idle inside. I think they are probably for pilots that they are mobilizing. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:11:24 PM EDT
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Russian drone footage.
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:12:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: So, 10K dead on the Ukrainian side.  No, previous post says they had the numbers backwards. 6.5 Russians killed to 1 Ukrainian. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:13:39 PM EDT
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It is reported that a fuel depot is on fire in Nikolaev |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
It is reported that a fuel depot is on fire in Nikolaev
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser:  I have to say, those are some of the more creative insults and threats I have heard over the radio.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: A captured Russian radio, as Ukrainians listen in and laugh. Translated. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y5na4h/russian_math_chatter_on_the_captured_radio/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb I have to say, those are some of the more creative insults and threats I have heard over the radio. Poor Russian artillery man was only off by half a kilometer.
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:23:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Russian drone footage.
A battery 3 of 105 HE/VT, with the first rounds AMC, would have made sure nobody came out of those bushes. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:24:25 PM EDT
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Did the United Kingdom give Ukraine any of there FV430 Bulldogs? They up armored a ton of these for use in Iraq in 2006, did they just leave them in Iraq? They would be an awesome asset on the Frontline. Better protection than the M113.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:25:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: No, previous post says they had the numbers backwards. 6.5 Russians killed to 1 Ukrainian. Current overall total is about 65,000 Russians dead. If that figure is roughly close for the whole current phase of the conflict, that's 10K Ukrainian dead. Ukraine keeps VERY good infosec, so we don't really know for sure. Undoubtedly, the ratio highly favors Ukraine, and should continue to do so. As noted a few pages back, in three more months or a bit more, we'll see 100K dead on the Russian side. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:26:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: That video of a small attack had more drama than the best action scenes from Saving private Ryan or Band of Brothers. I just wish we had more info about it from either the RU or the UA. Since the RU had a drone in the air observing and probably directing the attack, it was probably well planned and organized, at least by RU standards. There was certainly more happening off camera or too far to be seen, probably on the right flank. I bet the vid will be studies and discussed in various war colleges or at least infantry/armor schools for years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By GTLandser: I don't think the Ukrainians were prepared for an assault of that size at all (moderate though it was). Maybe they were TDF, or maybe they were in a thinly held sector. I didn't see any vehicles, any AT weapons, and the defenses were primarily the two bunkers right on the road, and some other rather sad looking dugouts off the road. They didn't even appear to have vehicles of any kind, and their positions didn't have any depth (meaning they had nowhere else behind to run TO). So yeah, considering the Russians had 1 or more tanks and 2 BMPs + dismounts, that went about how I would expect. Without ATGMs, mortars, or artillery to call upon, I also couldn't reasonably expect they would just remain there, in a badly prepared position, taking direct fire from tanks.  That video of a small attack had more drama than the best action scenes from Saving private Ryan or Band of Brothers. I just wish we had more info about it from either the RU or the UA. Since the RU had a drone in the air observing and probably directing the attack, it was probably well planned and organized, at least by RU standards. There was certainly more happening off camera or too far to be seen, probably on the right flank. I bet the vid will be studies and discussed in various war colleges or at least infantry/armor schools for years. Link for the video??? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:26:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Poor Russian artillery man was only off by half a kilometer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: A captured Russian radio, as Ukrainians listen in and laugh. Translated. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/y5na4h/russian_math_chatter_on_the_captured_radio/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb I have to say, those are some of the more creative insults and threats I have heard over the radio. Poor Russian artillery man was only off by half a kilometer. Wonder if there's a difference in size for the ones unit versus the tens unit for his abacus? |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:27:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Those <7 day streets to the front transitions are not going to work out very well for fighter jocks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By m35ben: Does Russia have some secret stash of well trained pilots? Those <7 day streets to the front transitions are not going to work out very well for fighter jocks. Have they run out of all their front line junk or are they just trying to husband their resources at this point? You know, by sacrificing their second line junk. Good old Putin is a master strategist after all. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Current overall total is about 65,000 Russians dead. If that figure is roughly close for the whole current phase of the conflict, that's 10K Ukrainian dead. Ukraine keeps VERY good infosec, so we don't really know for sure. Undoubtedly, the ratio highly favors Ukraine, and should continue to do so. As noted a few pages back, in three more months or a bit more, we'll see 100K dead on the Russian side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By jungatheart: No, previous post says they had the numbers backwards. 6.5 Russians killed to 1 Ukrainian. Current overall total is about 65,000 Russians dead. If that figure is roughly close for the whole current phase of the conflict, that's 10K Ukrainian dead. Ukraine keeps VERY good infosec, so we don't really know for sure. Undoubtedly, the ratio highly favors Ukraine, and should continue to do so. As noted a few pages back, in three more months or a bit more, we'll see 100K dead on the Russian side. I don’t think that ratio is for the whole war. Those numbers would be impossibly low. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:31:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: That turd Douglas Macgregor always harps on about the casualties being 5 Ukrainians to 1 Russian deaths. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
So, 10K dead on the Ukrainian side. That turd Douglas Macgregor always harps on about the casualties being 5 Ukrainians to 1 Russian deaths. 10k is unbelievably good (for Ukraine) during an all-out war. I think it’s more like 1-3 |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:35:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Planes are the easy part. Having someone to fly them is a completely different thing. Given the Russian ability to have appropriately trained and equipped infantry and technicians at the right time and right place, I have no doubt that Russia is pulling planes out of mothballs with next to zero change of having current and capable fighter pilots. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:41:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Current overall total is about 65,000 Russians dead. If that figure is roughly close for the whole current phase of the conflict, that's 10K Ukrainian dead. Ukraine keeps VERY good infosec, so we don't really know for sure. Undoubtedly, the ratio highly favors Ukraine, and should continue to do so. As noted a few pages back, in three more months or a bit more, we'll see 100K dead on the Russian side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By jungatheart: No, previous post says they had the numbers backwards. 6.5 Russians killed to 1 Ukrainian. Current overall total is about 65,000 Russians dead. If that figure is roughly close for the whole current phase of the conflict, that's 10K Ukrainian dead. Ukraine keeps VERY good infosec, so we don't really know for sure. Undoubtedly, the ratio highly favors Ukraine, and should continue to do so. As noted a few pages back, in three more months or a bit more, we'll see 100K dead on the Russian side. A lot of the wounded also die because lack of proper care on the Ruskie side... |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:47:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: During the 1917 Third Battle of Ypres (Passchendaele) took place over about 100 days and reasonable estimates of casualties seem to be about 700,000. So, the rate was about 7,000 casualties per day.  During 1916, the Battle of the Somme took place over 140 days, with close to a million casualties. So, a very similar rate - about 7,000 thousand casualties per day. ... and remember, those were specific campaigns in a small part of the overall theatre, and there was lots of dying going on at the same time on other battlefields. WW1 must have been an absolutely terrifying meatgrinder. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By GiggleSmith: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
So, 10K dead on the Ukrainian side. I remember reading that during the World Wars, about 1,000 soldiers died Per Day, excluding Major Attacks and offenses. During the 1917 Third Battle of Ypres (Passchendaele) took place over about 100 days and reasonable estimates of casualties seem to be about 700,000. So, the rate was about 7,000 casualties per day. During 1916, the Battle of the Somme took place over 140 days, with close to a million casualties. So, a very similar rate - about 7,000 thousand casualties per day. ... and remember, those were specific campaigns in a small part of the overall theatre, and there was lots of dying going on at the same time on other battlefields. WW1 must have been an absolutely terrifying meatgrinder. Between the war and the Spanish Flu, Europe lost most of a generation, and one could argue they never really recovered from that. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:48:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Very freaky. Instead of the "Flying Dutchman" we get the "Rolling Russian" ghost tank. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wish granted.
Very freaky. Instead of the "Flying Dutchman" we get the "Rolling Russian" ghost tank. Crazy Ivan, on land. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:56:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2022 4:56:55 PM EDT
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Longer version of yesterday's Kraken firefight video.
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:02:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brok3n]
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Latest from TWZ
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/annual-nato-nuclear-drills-featuring-b-52-bombers-to-begin-next-week Beginning Monday, NATO will kick off its annual nuclear deterrence exercise known as Steadfast Noon. U.S. Air Force B-52 bombers are among the aircraft slated to participate in the event, which will be carried out over northwestern Europe and the North Sea. While Steadfast Noon is an established recurring exercise, this year's iteration will be taking place amid heightened tensions with Russia after President Vladimir Putin threatened the use of nuclear weapons as a response to the success of recent Ukrainian counteroffensives. Moscow is also projected to hold its own annual nuclear exercises any day now. It is also necessary to note that the only NATO-member states that have organic nuclear weapons capabilities are the United States, the United Kingdom, and France. Beyond that, under the NATO nuclear-sharing arrangement, B61 nuclear gravity bombs are housed in Belgium, Germany, Italy, and the Netherlands, and can be employed by their respective tactical jet aircraft. Non-strategic NATO combat jets capable of carrying nuclear weapons include the F-15E, F-35, F-16, and Tornado. They are referred to as Dual-Capable Aircraft (DCAs) in NATO parlance |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:02:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Current overall total is about 65,000 Russians dead. If that figure is roughly close for the whole current phase of the conflict, that's 10K Ukrainian dead. Ukraine keeps VERY good infosec, so we don't really know for sure. Undoubtedly, the ratio highly favors Ukraine, and should continue to do so. As noted a few pages back, in three more months or a bit more, we'll see 100K dead on the Russian side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By jungatheart: No, previous post says they had the numbers backwards. 6.5 Russians killed to 1 Ukrainian. Current overall total is about 65,000 Russians dead. If that figure is roughly close for the whole current phase of the conflict, that's 10K Ukrainian dead. Ukraine keeps VERY good infosec, so we don't really know for sure. Undoubtedly, the ratio highly favors Ukraine, and should continue to do so. As noted a few pages back, in three more months or a bit more, we'll see 100K dead on the Russian side. I believe this ratio is just for the Kherson offensive campaign. The ratios have definitely been closer during certain phases of the war. I'd be very surprised if the Ukrainians have under 20k military deaths. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:02:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: That video of a small attack had more drama than the best action scenes from Saving private Ryan or Band of Brothers. I just wish we had more info about it from either the RU or the UA. Since the RU had a drone in the air observing and probably directing the attack, it was probably well planned and organized, at least by RU standards. There was certainly more happening off camera or too far to be seen, probably on the right flank. I bet the vid will be studies and discussed in various war colleges or at least infantry/armor schools for years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By GTLandser: I don't think the Ukrainians were prepared for an assault of that size at all (moderate though it was). Maybe they were TDF, or maybe they were in a thinly held sector. I didn't see any vehicles, any AT weapons, and the defenses were primarily the two bunkers right on the road, and some other rather sad looking dugouts off the road. They didn't even appear to have vehicles of any kind, and their positions didn't have any depth (meaning they had nowhere else behind to run TO). So yeah, considering the Russians had 1 or more tanks and 2 BMPs + dismounts, that went about how I would expect. Without ATGMs, mortars, or artillery to call upon, I also couldn't reasonably expect they would just remain there, in a badly prepared position, taking direct fire from tanks. That video of a small attack had more drama than the best action scenes from Saving private Ryan or Band of Brothers. I just wish we had more info about it from either the RU or the UA. Since the RU had a drone in the air observing and probably directing the attack, it was probably well planned and organized, at least by RU standards. There was certainly more happening off camera or too far to be seen, probably on the right flank. I bet the vid will be studies and discussed in various war colleges or at least infantry/armor schools for years. It happened outside of Sperne, 48.8126009365159, 38.26028569722111 link Didn't look that impressive, you ask me. One tank in SBF. Two BMPs drop off about three pax. A squad of UA run like hell except for three WIA, 1-2 look to be executed. Any sort of AT capability would have crushed this attack, but zero is what they seem to have had. Looked like a recon in force or probe. A lot of artillery supporting very little maneuver. It's modern war. There are no fair fights. video Im not going to lie...this TERRA unit is fascinating at several levels. And these are the best fighting positions Ive seen in this war.  ????????? TERRA: ???????? ??????? ??? ?? ??????????. ??????? 1. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:03:09 PM EDT
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I'd imagine with radio direction finding, Ukraine could locate exact Russian positions and their command posts if they are constantly chatting in the open on Baofengs.
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:06:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:14:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Again with the non-splody ammo storage showing that a great deal of wishful thinking was involved. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:16:04 PM EDT
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Hmmm
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:16:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GTLandser]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Link for the video??? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By GTLandser: I don't think the Ukrainians were prepared for an assault of that size at all (moderate though it was). Maybe they were TDF, or maybe they were in a thinly held sector. I didn't see any vehicles, any AT weapons, and the defenses were primarily the two bunkers right on the road, and some other rather sad looking dugouts off the road. They didn't even appear to have vehicles of any kind, and their positions didn't have any depth (meaning they had nowhere else behind to run TO). So yeah, considering the Russians had 1 or more tanks and 2 BMPs + dismounts, that went about how I would expect. Without ATGMs, mortars, or artillery to call upon, I also couldn't reasonably expect they would just remain there, in a badly prepared position, taking direct fire from tanks. That video of a small attack had more drama than the best action scenes from Saving private Ryan or Band of Brothers. I just wish we had more info about it from either the RU or the UA. Since the RU had a drone in the air observing and probably directing the attack, it was probably well planned and organized, at least by RU standards. There was certainly more happening off camera or too far to be seen, probably on the right flank. I bet the vid will be studies and discussed in various war colleges or at least infantry/armor schools for years. Link for the video??? I wouldn't describe it in quite such awe-struck terms. It wasn't Carentan or anything like that. The Russians had 1-2 tanks and 2 BMPs, the Ukrainians got tired of taking tank rounds to the face, and so decided they would leave since they didn't have any means to respond. The 3-4 guys who were wounded or elected to remain behind for whatever reason were killed or captured, when the 6 or so Russians decided the clear the trench line (really more of a wadi/arroyo/drainage that had some fighting positions dug here and there). I couldn't even tell if the few Ukrainians remaining were armed at that point (they may have been hurt or lost their weapons in the initial tank fire...can't say as I blame them too much if that is so).  The Russians were WELL within ATGM and possibly AT rocket range, and 6 or so dismounts is NOT enough to clear and secure a trench like that (if you want to hold it for any length of time). What stuck out to me is the video matches with what we have all heard, that the Russians don't have enough dismounts to fill out their BTGs. The only other lesson I might remind anyone about from that video would be...remember that you don't have to be STANDING ON something important in order to control it. In fact sometimes it is better if you are well clear of it, because it tends to draw all kinds of fire. The Ukrainians for whatever reason had their sandbag bunkers right on the road, and the only other "terrain" I could see was the ditch/wadi nearby, or the road embankment itself. Must have been pretty flat, because the Russians drove right up and started blasting the bunkers and dugouts. ETA: Dick Winters level of tactical prowess on either side, it was not. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:18:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
Am I recalling correctly that those hypersonic missiles are very difficult to shoot down because they are moving so fast? |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: I'd imagine with radio direction finding, Ukraine could locate exact Russian positions and their command posts if they are constantly chatting in the open on Baofengs. With the right equipment less than one minute until the arty shells arrive.  |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:20:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wish granted.
Spiral out. Keep going. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:24:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Am I recalling correctly that those hypersonic missiles are very difficult to shoot down because they are moving so fast? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Am I recalling correctly that those hypersonic missiles are very difficult to shoot down because they are moving so fast? No more so than any other MRBM.. It's probably traveling slower by a fair margin than if they had used it in a ballistic arc. If there was something in theater that could zap a MRBM in the boost phase, there might be some advantage to the kinzal. There isn't. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:25:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Spiral out. Keep going. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wish granted.
Spiral out. Keep going. Says the resident tool head. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:28:16 PM EDT
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What HIMARS doing?
— Illia Ponomarenko \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6 (@IAPonomarenko) October 16, 2022
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:28:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Very freaky. Instead of the "Flying Dutchman" we get the "Rolling Russian" ghost tank. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Wish granted.
Very freaky. Instead of the "Flying Dutchman" we get the "Rolling Russian" ghost tank. Future Ukrainian farmers will scare the kids around the campfire with the 'ghost tank driven by the headless orc' tale
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:34:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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"Protests" in Moldova.
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Posted: 10/16/2022 5:46:40 PM EDT
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20 mins
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:08:27 PM EDT
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The cassette is playing! 🔥
Not a pleasant feeling! I will say from my own experience. During this, you squeeze into the ground!
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:11:35 PM EDT
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11 "Shahed-136" Kamikaze Drones DESTROYED
Within an hour - from 9:30 p.m. to 10:30 p.m. on October 16, Air Force soldiers destroyed 9 kamikaze drones. In addition, there is also good news from the Air Defense Forces of other components of the Defense Forces. One "shaheed" was destroyed by units of the National Guard and the Terrodefense Forces
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Does Russia have some secret stash of well trained pilots? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Prime:
From what I’m understanding, they’re recruiting pilots around the world |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:21:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j_hooker: From what I’m understanding, they’re recruiting pilots around the world Wonder what an enterprising volunteer pilot would fetch for flying immediately to the nearest UA airbase and turning it over. I imagine a good bit more than Russia can pay |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:30:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:30:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Interesting. What does that do? Is it a guided torpedo with a warhead? Or just some sensors? Can it fight off RU killer dolphins? Odessa Ass Bandit has qualified on SCUBA. Dolphin poon is extra points. Russian sailors and longshoremen should be wary. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:31:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I don't believe those were used directly against Israel before. This is probably also a good testing opportunity for some companies working against ballistic missiles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: That kind of support would certainly help change the playing field overnight. I can only imagine most everyone backing Ukraine is pushing up some timetables to get the new air defense systems up for Ukraine sooner rather than later now. The missiles Iran just announced, are those the type that have been launched at Israel before? I'm curious as to where Israel's position is. Is this a "We shoot these down with high success so here is some tech" or is it "This is our chance to test out if what we have been developing to shoot them down before we have to use our homeland as a testing ground"? I don't believe those were used directly against Israel before. This is probably also a good testing opportunity for some companies working against ballistic missiles. Also a good opportunity for Israel to get access to data on the missiles in return for help against them. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:35:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j_hooker: From what I'm understanding, they're recruiting pilots around the world Wow if they are doing that then their training schools must really suck. |
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Posted: 10/16/2022 6:38:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
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