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Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:02:40 PM EDT
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Those tires are getting worn, replace before wet and muddy season.
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Those tires are getting worn, replace before wet and muddy season.


Mud season is already ending, spring is worse than fall.

Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:04:17 PM EDT
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Burried on a median?

WTF?
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:07:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I think this assessment is accurate. Makes sense.
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Originally Posted By YaNi05:


They're in a real pickle. They have a mostly light infantry force and the terrain down south is heavily favoring mechanized units. So they need to be very careful that they don't get into a meat grinder in Kherson. Then they kick off their Kharkiv offensive, which is really this fighting force's first major offensive ever.

Looking back to our first real bloodying in WW2 during Guadalcanal and North Africa we were extremely green. And learned a lot of lessons in blood. They have the benefit of being able to phone a friend to an extent, but I think they realize they can't screw this up. If the Kharkiv offensive turned into a failure with heavy casualties and limited ground taken it may have swayed support at home and abroad. They really needed to show themselves and their allies that they were capable of taking back their land, which was a question that was continuing to pop up the longer the war was dragging on.

So I can understand why they didn't have some grandiose plan. I also think they were at the limit of their logistics. There were quite a few reports that they were continuing the advance at least partially because of the stocks of weapons and fuel captured. Thus an operational pause was required to regroup and resupply, which gave the ruskies enough time to setup the Kremina / Svatove defense line.

I think this assessment is accurate. Makes sense.



One lesson that the time since 2014 taught them was patience and restraint.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:07:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Not sure of what happened. Maybe this unit was in the same area as those massively costly RU attacks. Pavlika? Apparently the center of a big RU push. I hope those brave UA guys made it.
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Comments say they were pulled back.

Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:12:48 PM EDT
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Damn...
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Originally Posted By Prime:
This gets its own post. Not sure if I missed this, this was posted to Twitter 18 hours ago.

Much of this Ukrainian unit's perception may have proven to be wrong tactically, but their narrative of the situation and response to it is fucking powerful.  




Damn...
Do I read correctly that a Ukrainian commander will face charges for retreating?

Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:16:59 PM EDT
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These very high numbers of RU dead are actually pleasing to the higher ups, I would imagine
In Eastern mindset, high mortality means, to them, they’re doing their job of being aggressive and it shows resolve among their commanders
Small numbers of dead conscripts after an offense, will have commanders put up on charges * doesn’t matter if the objective or more was taken

But to be fair, Churchill in WWII acted the same with Archie Wavell and others

Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:23:30 PM EDT
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Arestovych









TG account of (above) Belarusian opposition-

Monitoring of military activity on the territory of Belarus from 00:00 to 23:59 (Kyiv time) 05.11:

0. November 4, Afternoon. Highway M10, Luninets → Mikashevichi (Luninetsky district). Several dump trucks (civilian colors) of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus were noticed.

1. November 4, 16:00. Highway M3, Logoisk (Minsk region) → intersection of highways M3 and M14. The tractor of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus was moving with 4 containers for the S-300 air defense system.

2. 4 November. 17:00. Highway P43, Bobruisk (Mogilev region) → Slutsk (Minsk region). A column of awning Urals of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was moving (about 30 units in the column).
▫️18:00. Highway P43, Slutsk (Minsk region) → intersection of highways P13 and P43. The same column moved.

3. 08:55. Airfield "Baranovichi". The fighter took off.
▫️12:00. Baranovichi → Airfield "Baranovichi". An awning KamAZ and an awning Ural were moving.
▫️16:15. Airfield "Baranovichi". The aircraft An-12 of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation with tail number RF-12560 landed.
▫️17:15. Airfield "Baranovichi". The An-12 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces with tail number RF-12560 flew away.
▫️Baranovichi, Sovetsky Ave., 2 (Shopping center "Korona"). Soldiers of the RF Armed Forces were spotted. Near the shops in Baranavichy, soldiers are seen every day.

4. 09:00. Airfield "Machulishchi". The MiG-31K fighter with tail number RF-92333 flew away.
▫️10:40. Airfield "Machulishchi". The MiG-31K fighter with tail number RF-92333 landed.
▫️15:50. Airfield "Machulishchi". An Il-76 aircraft of the Belarusian Air Force with tail number EW-005DE landed.
▫️17:10. Airfield "Machulishchi". The aircraft An-72 of the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation with tail number RF-72962 landed.
▫️17:50. Machulishchi airfield → Chkalovsky airfield. The An-72 aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces with tail number RF-72962 took off.

5. 09:50. Airfield "Luninets" → northeast. The helicopter was flying.
▫️14:15. North-east → Luninets airfield. Two Mi-8 helicopters of the Belarusian Air Force were flying.

6. During the day. At the Krasnoe Znamya railway station and the Smolevichi railway station, empty platforms interspersed with freight cars were seen.

7. 13:00. Highway M8, intersection of highways M5 and M8 → intersection of highways M8 and M10. An awning MAZ of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus was moving with a dangerous cargo.

8. In the afternoon. 230 combined-arms training ground "Obuz-Lesnovsky" (Baranovichi district). A military tent and a large number of Russian cars were seen near the entrance from the M1 highway.

9. In the afternoon. Near the training ground of the 103rd Airborne Brigade of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus "Losvido" was an armored car of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus.

10. 18:00. Brest, st. October Revolution → Warsaw highway. An awning MAZ was moving.



Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:47:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
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Place some of the 70mm rocket pods with the guided rockets from the Vampire rocket systems on them.

Then use them as long loiter anti drone systems.

Laze the drones with with their internal tracking laser and shoot them down with the cheap guided rockets.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:49:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

I can't muster sympathy for suffering and dead orcs, but let's take a minute to appreciate how depressing this scene is. Here's a rascist invader, presumably a conscript. I don't think he looks very well equipped, do you? Doesn't that look like an older helmet? And coat? He's obviously already injured, see the half-shredded coat with the polyfill lining exposed, and apparently bloodied. Where is his battle buddy? He's injured, and left alone in a trench with one or two drones after him? Why was nobody helping him to safety? Where is the rest of his unit, are they not looking for the one who's lost? This guy died alone, in a foreign country his dictator invaded for no good reason, with no one to help or comfort him. Oh, sure, fuck that guy. But what this little scene says about Russian military discipline and military culture is pretty telling. Ukraine will win.
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
3 grenades dropped on a Russian soldier, he throws or attempts to throw 2 of them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/yn1naz/a_ukrainian_drone_dropping_multiple_grenades_on_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb

I can't muster sympathy for suffering and dead orcs, but let's take a minute to appreciate how depressing this scene is. Here's a rascist invader, presumably a conscript. I don't think he looks very well equipped, do you? Doesn't that look like an older helmet? And coat? He's obviously already injured, see the half-shredded coat with the polyfill lining exposed, and apparently bloodied. Where is his battle buddy? He's injured, and left alone in a trench with one or two drones after him? Why was nobody helping him to safety? Where is the rest of his unit, are they not looking for the one who's lost? This guy died alone, in a foreign country his dictator invaded for no good reason, with no one to help or comfort him. Oh, sure, fuck that guy. But what this little scene says about Russian military discipline and military culture is pretty telling. Ukraine will win.



The wages of sin is death.



The wages of participating in a genocidal campaign against your neighbor is suffering, isolation, THEN death.  



I don't feel any more sorry for that guy than I do for anyone who has died as a result of the blood clotting they got from their latest COVID shot: both types of people are willing swallowers of an evil government official's lies.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 12:50:30 PM EDT
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They're not in any kind of "pickle".

They're motivated, equipped, and smart.

Change your bed wet sheets and watch them continue to kick orc ass.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:01:50 PM EDT
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Kyiv Planning for Total Evacuation if It Loses Electricity
The city is also establishing 1,000 heating centers for its 3 million residents, as Russia pounds away at civilian targets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-electricity-russia-infrastructure.html

KYIV, Ukraine — As they struggle to maintain an electricity grid heavily damaged by Russian missiles, officials in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, say they have begun planning for a once unthinkable possibility: a complete blackout that would require the evacuation of the city’s approximately three million remaining residents.

The situation is already so dire, with 40 percent of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure damaged or destroyed, that municipal workers are setting up 1,000 heating shelters that can double as bunkers while engineers try to fix bombed-out power stations without the needed equipment.

The tremendous strain on Ukraine’s ability to provide power is the result of the widespread bombardment by Russian forces of critical energy infrastructure across the country, a tactic that analysts say President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has resorted to as his troops have suffered repeated setbacks on the battlefield.

The damage caused by the Russian strikes has heaped new suffering on Ukraine’s civilians and forced officials to reckon with the possibility that further damage could render them unable to provide basic services.

“We understand that if Russia continues such attacks, we may lose our entire electricity system,” Roman Tkachuk, the director of security for the Kyiv municipal government, said in an interview, speaking of the city.

Officials in the capital have been told that they would be likely to have at least 12 hours’ notice that the grid was on the verge of failure. If it reaches that point, Mr. Tkachuk said, “we will start informing people and requesting them to leave.”

For now at least, the situation is manageable, and there were no indications that large numbers of civilians were fleeing Kyiv, he said. But that would change quickly if the services that relied on city power stopped.

“If there’s no power, there will be no water and no sewage,” he said. “That’s why currently the government and city administration are taking all possible measures to protect our power supply system.”


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This is going to become a nightmare scenario, and it's possible it won't be fixed for years, or even longer, if they're hitting LPT's (large power transformers). They've become damn near impossible to replace.

They need real air defenses now. Otherwise they're going to be in the dark for a long, long time.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:11:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:18:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

They must be low on the modified 30mm VOG grenades which seem MUCH more efficient. Early in the war they were dropping the RKG AT grenades, modified PRG rounds, all types of stuff.

Maybe all the glorious 32round Mk19 belt-dumps could be stopped and the HEDP given to the drone warriors?
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:


It looks like a standard UZRGM fuze but with a safety style clip around the fuze body and spoon (think ziptie). The grenade impact dislodges the safety clip or the spoon and the striker impacts the primer and the 4 second delay begins. About 5 seconds passed from the grenade impact on whatever he's holding up to the explosion.

They must be low on the modified 30mm VOG grenades which seem MUCH more efficient. Early in the war they were dropping the RKG AT grenades, modified PRG rounds, all types of stuff.

Maybe all the glorious 32round Mk19 belt-dumps could be stopped and the HEDP given to the drone warriors?


This gets back to something we discussed awhile back.

Some munitions company should develop a purpose made 'Quadcopter Munition' and start mass producing it, rather than these modified ones.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:19:31 PM EDT
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Wow, that’s just an awareness fail.
An understandable one, but…
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:21:42 PM EDT
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Our real problem here is that we are both Americans, and we tend to want to do ridiculous things like land at Inchon, send John Paul Jones to attack Scotland, bomb Tokyo with B-25s, give Patton 400,000 gallons and let him go all the way to Berlin, march from Atlanta to the sea with no supply line, throw long on 4th & 1, and attack the assembled Sioux nation with a battalion of cavalry.
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Obviously, I/we dont have the intel picture of the RU defenses but I generally agree. We have seen the RU lines break or even collapse when pushed hard enough and once their front lines are punched they tend to panic and flee. Maybe the Russians have made some adjustments to prevent this, defense more in depth maybe. Or maybe there is intel that the RU has positioned some chem. warfare in the area.

Without knowing more intel, I believe that bold and daring may be safer than slugging it out in Khersan even if it's defended only by RU mobiks backed by wagner assholes on the other bank waiting to shoot anyone fleeing.

It seems to me that the UA (and the RU) like arty duels the most, especially when they have superiority, rather than true combined arms attacks.


Our real problem here is that we are both Americans, and we tend to want to do ridiculous things like land at Inchon, send John Paul Jones to attack Scotland, bomb Tokyo with B-25s, give Patton 400,000 gallons and let him go all the way to Berlin, march from Atlanta to the sea with no supply line, throw long on 4th & 1, and attack the assembled Sioux nation with a battalion of cavalry.


I read your post, and this song immediately began to play in my head.

Team America - America, F*ck Yeah! (Lyrics)
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:23:20 PM EDT
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Yeah, That's Point Blank!


Except for The Start of the conflict I haven't seen groups of vehicles engage in combat.  Everything is single vehicle; no Buddy to watch your back.

Lately I've been wondering what a Full Company or two of UR Tanks attack some RU position.

Too many drones in the sky to make it successful?  Some planning and secrecy would be needed to pull it off.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:24:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:25:13 PM EDT
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Having gone through High School with the Viet Nam Draft going on I can sympathize somewhat with Draftees and Draft Dodgers.


HOW A BATTALION OF RUSSIAN DRAFTEES IS WIPED OUT IN UKRAINE || 2022
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:27:08 PM EDT
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Footage of UA assets going into Kherson.



Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:30:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

This is going to become a nightmare scenario, and it's possible it won't be fixed for years, or even longer, if they're hitting LPT's (large power transformers). They've become damn near impossible to replace.

They need real air defenses now. Otherwise they're going to be in the dark for a long, long time.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Kyiv Planning for Total Evacuation if It Loses Electricity
The city is also establishing 1,000 heating centers for its 3 million residents, as Russia pounds away at civilian targets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-electricity-russia-infrastructure.html

KYIV, Ukraine — As they struggle to maintain an electricity grid heavily damaged by Russian missiles, officials in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, say they have begun planning for a once unthinkable possibility: a complete blackout that would require the evacuation of the city’s approximately three million remaining residents.

The situation is already so dire, with 40 percent of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure damaged or destroyed, that municipal workers are setting up 1,000 heating shelters that can double as bunkers while engineers try to fix bombed-out power stations without the needed equipment.

The tremendous strain on Ukraine’s ability to provide power is the result of the widespread bombardment by Russian forces of critical energy infrastructure across the country, a tactic that analysts say President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has resorted to as his troops have suffered repeated setbacks on the battlefield.

The damage caused by the Russian strikes has heaped new suffering on Ukraine’s civilians and forced officials to reckon with the possibility that further damage could render them unable to provide basic services.

“We understand that if Russia continues such attacks, we may lose our entire electricity system,” Roman Tkachuk, the director of security for the Kyiv municipal government, said in an interview, speaking of the city.

Officials in the capital have been told that they would be likely to have at least 12 hours’ notice that the grid was on the verge of failure. If it reaches that point, Mr. Tkachuk said, “we will start informing people and requesting them to leave.”

For now at least, the situation is manageable, and there were no indications that large numbers of civilians were fleeing Kyiv, he said. But that would change quickly if the services that relied on city power stopped.

“If there’s no power, there will be no water and no sewage,” he said. “That’s why currently the government and city administration are taking all possible measures to protect our power supply system.”



This is going to become a nightmare scenario, and it's possible it won't be fixed for years, or even longer, if they're hitting LPT's (large power transformers). They've become damn near impossible to replace.

They need real air defenses now. Otherwise they're going to be in the dark for a long, long time.


What they really need to do is put Moscow and St. Petersburg in the dark.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:32:25 PM EDT
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Танк 2 орків знищений ЗСУ у Пісках Радьківських
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:36:36 PM EDT
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The wages of sin is death.

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Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:46:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:48:05 PM EDT
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Yeah, That's Point Blank!


Except for The Start of the conflict I haven't seen groups of vehicles engage in combat.  Everything is single vehicle; no Buddy to watch your back.

Lately I've been wondering what a Full Company or two of UR Tanks attack some RU position.

Too many drones in the sky to make it successful?  Some planning and secrecy would be needed to pull it off.
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That might be what those rumored optics upgrades are about. Some Russian drones may see a nighttime armor assault, but (correct me if I’m wrong) Russian armor mostly wouldn’t.

Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:51:54 PM EDT
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In intercepted phone call russian soldier says relatives back home say there will be full mobilization after new year.

Full Mobilization In Russia Is To Be Expected, According To This Interception
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:56:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

This is going to become a nightmare scenario, and it's possible it won't be fixed for years, or even longer, if they're hitting LPT's (large power transformers). They've become damn near impossible to replace.

They need real air defenses now. Otherwise they're going to be in the dark for a long, long time.
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I’ve been posting air defense needs since May and here we are with some of the authorized air defense not set to arrive until next year
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:58:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2022 1:59:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

They must be low on the modified 30mm VOG grenades which seem MUCH more efficient. Early in the war they were dropping the RKG AT grenades, modified PRG rounds, all types of stuff.

Maybe all the glorious 32round Mk19 belt-dumps could be stopped and the HEDP given to the drone warriors?
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:


It looks like a standard UZRGM fuze but with a safety style clip around the fuze body and spoon (think ziptie). The grenade impact dislodges the safety clip or the spoon and the striker impacts the primer and the 4 second delay begins. About 5 seconds passed from the grenade impact on whatever he's holding up to the explosion.

They must be low on the modified 30mm VOG grenades which seem MUCH more efficient. Early in the war they were dropping the RKG AT grenades, modified PRG rounds, all types of stuff.

Maybe all the glorious 32round Mk19 belt-dumps could be stopped and the HEDP given to the drone warriors?


Not sure, could be that they just have a bunch of hand grenades that they want to get rid of. Shit, they already started modifying M67 (85% sure it was an M67) to drop from the copters.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 2:23:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


This gets back to something we discussed awhile back.

Some munitions company should develop a purpose made 'Quadcopter Munition' and start mass producing it, rather than these modified ones.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:


It looks like a standard UZRGM fuze but with a safety style clip around the fuze body and spoon (think ziptie). The grenade impact dislodges the safety clip or the spoon and the striker impacts the primer and the 4 second delay begins. About 5 seconds passed from the grenade impact on whatever he's holding up to the explosion.

They must be low on the modified 30mm VOG grenades which seem MUCH more efficient. Early in the war they were dropping the RKG AT grenades, modified PRG rounds, all types of stuff.

Maybe all the glorious 32round Mk19 belt-dumps could be stopped and the HEDP given to the drone warriors?


This gets back to something we discussed awhile back.

Some munitions company should develop a purpose made 'Quadcopter Munition' and start mass producing it, rather than these modified ones.



The vogs work great, small enough and powerful enough to do the job.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 2:28:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By YaNi05:


They're in a real pickle. They have a mostly light infantry force and the terrain down south is heavily favoring mechanized units. So they need to be very careful that they don't get into a meat grinder in Kherson. Then they kick off their Kharkiv offensive, which is really this fighting force's first major offensive ever.

Looking back to our first real bloodying in WW2 during Guadalcanal and North Africa we were extremely green. And learned a lot of lessons in blood. They have the benefit of being able to phone a friend to an extent, but I think they realize they can't screw this up. If the Kharkiv offensive turned into a failure with heavy casualties and limited ground taken it may have swayed support at home and abroad. They really needed to show themselves and their allies that they were capable of taking back their land, which was a question that was continuing to pop up the longer the war was dragging on.

So I can understand why they didn't have some grandiose plan. I also think they were at the limit of their logistics. There were quite a few reports that they were continuing the advance at least partially because of the stocks of weapons and fuel captured. Thus an operational pause was required to regroup and resupply, which gave the ruskies enough time to setup the Kremina / Svatove defense line.
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I agree.
They dont have the strength to cross the Dnipro at Kherson.  They really wont at all if they sit still and let the Russians dig in for three months.  House to house fighting in Kherson with Russian artillery pounding is bad.  Its going to be like the Rhine or the Volturno if they don't get across it quickly, or (preferably) forget crossing it and shift their main effort to where they are already beyond it.

The best axis that doesn't involve a river crossing is down E105 from Zaporizhia to Melitopol, which bypasses the river line.  I would think if the Russians can read a map they would be defending there, but pretty soon anything down that road will beat a contested river crossing.  

In the east, a predominantly light infantry force should be looking for muddy conditions where Russian tanks cant go, and pitting high quality infantry against Orc Conscripts.  Id say north of the Svatove-Starobilsk road.  That's a place Russian tanks cant maneuver and without support, Russian infantry is at a big disadvantage.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 2:29:03 PM EDT
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I’ve been posting air defense needs since May and here we are with some of the authorized air defense not set to arrive until next year
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Originally Posted By Kagetora:

This is going to become a nightmare scenario, and it's possible it won't be fixed for years, or even longer, if they're hitting LPT's (large power transformers). They've become damn near impossible to replace.

They need real air defenses now. Otherwise they're going to be in the dark for a long, long time.

I’ve been posting air defense needs since May and here we are with some of the authorized air defense not set to arrive until next year

That's going to be far too late.

I know it sounds crazy extreme, and the optics of it all would be horrible, but every air defense platform they have needs to be set up outside substations and generating plants, wherever the LPT's are. Yes, more civilians would die to Russian missiles and drones, but it'd be better than the countless that will perish without heat, water, or sewer in a bad winter. Or the humanitarian and refugee nightmare that will occur.

You can fix lines and towers pretty easy. Even HV PCB's aren't that hard to come by or replace. LPT's, though...fuck. A new one is a few million and a couple years out. For ONE. It's crazy.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 2:40:15 PM EDT
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https://nitter.net/TpyxaNews/status/1589296535715844096#m

“F***ing general, get the f*** out of here."

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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

That's going to be far too late.

I know it sounds crazy extreme, and the optics of it all would be horrible, but every air defense platform they have needs to be set up outside substations and generating plants, wherever the LPT's are. Yes, more civilians would die to Russian missiles and drones, but it'd be better than the countless that will perish without heat, water, or sewer in a bad winter. Or the humanitarian and refugee nightmare that will occur.

You can fix lines and towers pretty easy. Even HV PCB's aren't that hard to come by or replace. LPT's, though...fuck. A new one is a few million and a couple years out. For ONE. It's crazy.
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Even lines are getting tougher.  Quoted over a year recently on some ACSR.  The steel core is the hold up.

Lately even smaller 115/34kV transformers are near a year.
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Originally Posted By Weasel_Master:


Even lines are getting tougher.  Quoted over a year recently on some ACSR.  The steel core is the hold up.

Lately even smaller 115/34kV transformers are near a year.
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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

That's going to be far too late.

I know it sounds crazy extreme, and the optics of it all would be horrible, but every air defense platform they have needs to be set up outside substations and generating plants, wherever the LPT's are. Yes, more civilians would die to Russian missiles and drones, but it'd be better than the countless that will perish without heat, water, or sewer in a bad winter. Or the humanitarian and refugee nightmare that will occur.

You can fix lines and towers pretty easy. Even HV PCB's aren't that hard to come by or replace. LPT's, though...fuck. A new one is a few million and a couple years out. For ONE. It's crazy.


Even lines are getting tougher.  Quoted over a year recently on some ACSR.  The steel core is the hold up.

Lately even smaller 115/34kV transformers are near a year.


The Russians are going to loot that shit because they can't get it any other way.
For almost anyone it's "nearly a year," for them It's maybe never again.
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Originally Posted By lokifox:


What they really need to do is put Moscow and St. Petersburg in the dark.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Kyiv Planning for Total Evacuation if It Loses Electricity
The city is also establishing 1,000 heating centers for its 3 million residents, as Russia pounds away at civilian targets.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/05/world/europe/kyiv-ukraine-electricity-russia-infrastructure.html

KYIV, Ukraine — As they struggle to maintain an electricity grid heavily damaged by Russian missiles, officials in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, say they have begun planning for a once unthinkable possibility: a complete blackout that would require the evacuation of the city’s approximately three million remaining residents.

The situation is already so dire, with 40 percent of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure damaged or destroyed, that municipal workers are setting up 1,000 heating shelters that can double as bunkers while engineers try to fix bombed-out power stations without the needed equipment.

The tremendous strain on Ukraine’s ability to provide power is the result of the widespread bombardment by Russian forces of critical energy infrastructure across the country, a tactic that analysts say President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has resorted to as his troops have suffered repeated setbacks on the battlefield.

The damage caused by the Russian strikes has heaped new suffering on Ukraine’s civilians and forced officials to reckon with the possibility that further damage could render them unable to provide basic services.

“We understand that if Russia continues such attacks, we may lose our entire electricity system,” Roman Tkachuk, the director of security for the Kyiv municipal government, said in an interview, speaking of the city.

Officials in the capital have been told that they would be likely to have at least 12 hours’ notice that the grid was on the verge of failure. If it reaches that point, Mr. Tkachuk said, “we will start informing people and requesting them to leave.”

For now at least, the situation is manageable, and there were no indications that large numbers of civilians were fleeing Kyiv, he said. But that would change quickly if the services that relied on city power stopped.

“If there’s no power, there will be no water and no sewage,” he said. “That’s why currently the government and city administration are taking all possible measures to protect our power supply system.”



This is going to become a nightmare scenario, and it's possible it won't be fixed for years, or even longer, if they're hitting LPT's (large power transformers). They've become damn near impossible to replace.

They need real air defenses now. Otherwise they're going to be in the dark for a long, long time.


What they really need to do is put Moscow and St. Petersburg in the dark.


<This. No nation has any right to expect that their cities won't be attacked after they have invaded another nation. All is fair in love and war.
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Just now.

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Originally Posted By Kagetora:

That's going to be far too late.

I know it sounds crazy extreme, and the optics of it all would be horrible, but every air defense platform they have needs to be set up outside substations and generating plants, wherever the LPT's are. Yes, more civilians would die to Russian missiles and drones, but it'd be better than the countless that will perish without heat, water, or sewer in a bad winter. Or the humanitarian and refugee nightmare that will occur.

You can fix lines and towers pretty easy. Even HV PCB's aren't that hard to come by or replace. LPT's, though...fuck. A new one is a few million and a couple years out. For ONE. It's crazy.
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Supposedly {unconfirmed} Iran is transferring 1,000 short range short range missiles, so if true that would likely compound the shortage of air defense. I hope Ukraine has a work around for winter.
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I agree.
They dont have the strength to cross the Dnipro at Kherson.  They really wont at all if they sit still and let the Russians dig in for three months.  House to house fighting in Kherson with Russian artillery pounding is bad.  Its going to be like the Rhine or the Volturno if they don't get across it quickly, or (preferably) forget crossing it and shift their main effort to where they are already beyond it.

The best axis that doesn't involve a river crossing is down E105 from Zaporizhia to Melitopol, which bypasses the river line.  I would think if the Russians can read a map they would be defending there, but pretty soon anything down that road will beat a contested river crossing.  

In the east, a predominantly light infantry force should be looking for muddy conditions where Russian tanks cant go, and pitting high quality infantry against Orc Conscripts.  Id say north of the Svatove-Starobilsk road.  That's a place Russian tanks cant maneuver and without support, Russian infantry is at a big disadvantage.
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Russia has been focused on that area of Zap even while trying to respond to Kherson/Kharkiv offenses and their never ending hopes for Bakhmut so I think Moscow is ready or will be shortly.
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I bet that was LOUD.
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Footage of UA assets going into Kherson.



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OK, there goes that Solo Only observation of mine.
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Originally Posted By iggy1337:
Any updates on Bakhmut?

Russian propaganda channels have been claiming it's on the tip of falling for months and last week they were pretty much certain it would fall next morning.
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Ukraine has successfully fended them off as of yesterday.                                                                                                                                                    
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