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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The next few days...
View Quote How does it help the russians if they blow that dam? |
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I honestly feel sorry for some of the Russian troops caught up in this mess, especially the mobilized guys who would prefer not to be there. It is a shame they must be slaughtered in mass. But the Ukrainians have to do it. Every Russian soldier or piece of equipment that escapes will be used against them again. So they have to try to wipe them out if they can. Depending on the outcome, the Battle of Kherson might be the end for Russia in Ukraine. The September offensive was the beginning of the end. If Russian forces trying to retreat from Kherson get completely mauled, this could be the actual end. I just don't see Russia recovering if they end up suffering a worst case scenario in their retreat, which appears to be happening. This could be the moment their back is broken.
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I stand with Ukraine. Fuck Putin! And fuck Russia!
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Originally Posted By The_Gooch: Wow. The Russians pulled out all their SHORAD before the bulk of their forces had crossed the river, leaving the skies to the Ukrainians. Talk about infinite retardation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUYE1XNO5E View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By The_Gooch: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Talk about infinite retardation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUYE1XNO5E Their AA systems are MUCH more valuable than conscripts. 10-20 systems for 5,000 meat bags is an easy choice. They don’t have nearly as many SHORAD systems as they do men for the meat grinder. |
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Originally Posted By ludder093: Ukraine is stacking bodies What a total disaster for Russia. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Showing restraint will only prolong this senseless war. Yes, it’s sad these mostly Mobiks have to die, but die they must to provoke change. Moscow is already begging for negotiations. I do not want negotiations; I want to see serious regime change. However, I also tip my hat to R0N for pointing out that a total regime collapse could have many unintended consequences. |
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Originally Posted By DASJUDEN: I'm thinking if it isn't currently a rout it could easily turn into one, the Russian rear guard is largely composed of conscript infantry with very little artillery support, and no real air support. With the limited bridge/boatlift capacity the Russians have if you can get the rearguard to break any order that there may have been is going to collapse in short order. If that occurs, rush the river destroying any forces in the way and prepare a hasty defense in case of counter attack. View Quote I recall watching a documentary where native americans in alaska were hunting caribou. I think it was caribou? Anyway. They would hide in small gasoline powered boats then when the caribou herd was well into the river, they started their motors and rushed the caribou. Rolled right up beside them and shot them in the head as they tried to swim across. Does Ukraine have a brown water navy? Or a lot of little fishing boats? |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: I honestly feel sorry for some of the Russian troops caught up in this mess, especially the mobilized guys who would prefer not to be there. It is a shame they must be slaughtered in mass. But the Ukrainians have to do it. Every Russian soldier or piece of equipment that escapes will be used against them again. So they have to try to wipe them out if they can. Depending on the outcome, the Battle of Kherson might be the end for Russia in Ukraine. The September offensive was the beginning of the end. If Russian forces trying to retreat from Kherson get completely mauled, this could be the actual end. I just don't see Russia recovering if they end up suffering a worst case scenario in their retreat, which appears to be happening. This could be the moment their back is broken. View Quote I still think the war is going to go on for a while, especially if Ukraine wants to push the Russians back to the pre-2014 boundaries (which I think they can and should). There's still a lot of fighting to be done to take back the rest of the south/Donbas and especially Crimea, which I think the Russians will fight tooth and nail for. The Ukrainians are going to win provided Western support continues, but the I think the Putin regime can and will throw bodies at them for quite some time still. That being said, I do concur that Russia's chances at coming away with ANYTHING resembling a victory are dying in Kherson. |
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I stand with Ukraine. Fuck Putin! And fuck Russia!
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Originally Posted By Dominion21: Showing restraint will only prolong this senseless war. Yes, it’s sad these mostly Mobiks have to die, but die they must to provoke change. Moscow is already begging for negotiations. I do not want negotiations; I want to see serious regime change. I tip my hat to R0N for pointing out that a total regime collapse could have many unintended consequences. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Showing restraint will only prolong this senseless war. Yes, it’s sad these mostly Mobiks have to die, but die they must to provoke change. Moscow is already begging for negotiations. I do not want negotiations; I want to see serious regime change. I tip my hat to R0N for pointing out that a total regime collapse could have many unintended consequences. Ukraine has been fighting a stalemate war since 2014 over the Donbas, Luhansk, and Crimea as well. They wouldn’t accept any peace without them as that would be equal to surrendering/losing the war (when they are winning). Russia declared those places parts of the Russian Federation. Their regime would collapse if they gave them right back. There is no real peace propsal. |
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Originally Posted By Dominion21: Showing restraint will only prolong this senseless war. Yes, it's sad these mostly Mobiks have to die, but die they must to provoke change. Moscow is already begging for negotiations. I do not want negotiations; I want to see serious regime change. I tip my hat to R0N for pointing out that a total regime collapse could have many unintended consequences. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By stone-age: How does it help the russians if they blow that dam? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The next few days...
How does it help the russians if they blow that dam? Plus, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, the left bank is lower ground and the Russians would be flooded out before the Ukrainians, and Crimea would have all sorts of problems. Then again, aren't the Russians busy digging trenches and creating a new defensive line waaaaay back from the Kherson area? In Crimea as well as way further east? Maybe they will flood the entire region, collateral and friendly damage be damned. |
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Originally Posted By CharlieR: A force of 62 Brandenburgers under the command of Baron Adrian von Fölkersam penetrated far into Soviet territory. Disguised in NKVD uniforms and riding in Red Army trucks they passed themselves off so convincingly that von Fölkersam even managed to get a tour of the positions around Maikop with its commander. Before that he had rounded up a group of Soviet deserted and used them to advance to Maikop under the pretence of returning them to the line. Now ensconced among the Soviets the Brandenburgers destroy the city’s communication centre and then convince the defenders that a withdrawal had been ordered. The Germans entered the city on August 9, 1942 without firing a shot. View Quote Interesting. |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: If they blow the dam the ensuing flood would kill more Russians and destroy more Russian equipment than the Ukrainian artillery will. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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The Armed Forces took Chornobayivka. Battles in Kherson.
It is reported that some units of the Russian Armed Forces have just now been ordered to withdraw There are more than twenty thousand military personnel at the crossings, who have not received clear orders since yesterday. 10:07 PM · Nov 10, 2022·Twitter for Android
Russian TG Here they are interested in information about panic from there? Not from channels, but from messages of people I personally know. Moreover, the panic was reported already in the afternoon. The fact that even on the left bank there is anarchy, abandoned equipment and abandoned posts. And here you are, as usual, talking about complete control of the situation. Clowns t.me/russ_orientalist /12437 https://t.me/russ_orientalist/12437
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Originally Posted By Prime: There was an article a couple days ago in Russian media claiming surgeons removed live ordnance from someone. Hopefully we can believe them this time and he got it removed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By mokerr: https://i.redd.it/7yto1frsb7z91.jpg lol Russian has a mortar stuck in his shoulder. ouchies e: perhaps I'm fucking retarded, but when they say the "right" bank of the Dnipro, do they mean east or west? There was an article a couple days ago in Russian media claiming surgeons removed live ordnance from someone. Hopefully we can believe them this time and he got it removed. I’d hope their surgeons are better than their hostage rescue teams if I was in their military. And that’s if you were the lottery winner that survived rape, lack of training and no supplies up to that point. |
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For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
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Originally Posted By jungatheart: Senseless and meaningless at least on the Russian side. I go back and forth from slaughter them all to pity. War sucks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By thehun06: I surely do hope there are some decent people left in the Russian government and make Putin answer for all of this nonsense...that said...all the officers and elected officials who Ok'd Ukraine needs to be held to justice criminally by the international court...round them up...throw them in the gulag...all the senseless deaths do make my heart ache...for real... Senseless and meaningless at least on the Russian side. I go back and forth from slaughter them all to pity. War sucks. Every time I start to pity them I remember the infant they raped to death while filming it. Then I get back to hoping someone brought marshmallows to the pyre. |
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❗️Ukrainian Armed Forces entered the Russian city of Kherson (~1600ET) https://t.me/grey_zone/15744 The first enemy forces represented by specialists from the Main Intelligence Directorate (2x4) and the MTR (6) of Ukraine entered Kherson. Small groups are patrolled to detect ambush activities. Observation points are being set up. The sectors of control of the outlying quarters are divided in order to identify the enemy's setups (that is, us, the forces of the Russian Federation) and the partisan resistance of the city. (~1330ET) https://t.me/grey_zone/15743
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Originally Posted By ludder093: No restraint. Kill as many Russians as you possibly can. It's time to make a statement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By Dominion21: Showing restraint will only prolong this senseless war. Yes, it's sad these mostly Mobiks have to die, but die they must to provoke change. Moscow is already begging for negotiations. I do not want negotiations; I want to see serious regime change. I tip my hat to R0N for pointing out that a total regime collapse could have many unintended consequences. Likewise |
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Originally Posted By m24shooter: Don't the Avengers also have that M2 with the ludicrously fast ROF? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m24shooter: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Avenger air defense systems....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhOdYfOXoAEpJTJ?format=jpg&name=900x900 Don't the Avengers also have that M2 with the ludicrously fast ROF? M3P; 1050 RPM, Fires in 25 round bursts. The original M3 was a variation/modernization of the AN/M2 into an electrically-charged aircraft machine gun with a higher (nearly double) cyclic rate of fire and was used on Korean War-era Fighter aircraft as well as defensive armament on the B52s through the G model. The M3P was a new-build modernized variant of the original M3 built for the AVENGER and was also used on the OH58D as a replacement for the M296. |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: If they blow the dam the ensuing flood would kill more Russians and destroy more Russian equipment than the Ukrainian artillery will. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Originally Posted By stone-age: How does it help the russians if they blow that dam? If they blow the dam the ensuing flood would kill more Russians and destroy more Russian equipment than the Ukrainian artillery will. Doesn't that dam provide the water level behind it needed for the Zapo nuclear power plant cooling? |
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Originally Posted By Dominion21: A-10s: plenty in the Pentagon have been desperate to dump them. They are highly unlikely to be used again by US forces. But since Russia appears to have moved all their air defense assets deep into Crimea, the A-10s could be decimating the 20,000 Russian troops trapped in Kherson oblast. Stupid we did not transfer them all early on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dominion21: Originally Posted By KELBEAST: This is the reason the US should have transferred the A10's and helicopters to UA earlier. This is the exact moment there needs to be attack aircraft stacked up circling like vultures. A-10s: plenty in the Pentagon have been desperate to dump them. They are highly unlikely to be used again by US forces. But since Russia appears to have moved all their air defense assets deep into Crimea, the A-10s could be decimating the 20,000 Russian troops trapped in Kherson oblast. Stupid we did not transfer them all early on. |
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Originally Posted By m35ben: I hope Ukraine is trying to recreate this over the next few days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYR-H4Hgoz8 View Quote Sometimes, when I'm a little bit sad, or feeling down, or discouraged, I pull this video up. Usually perks me up a little bit. To think of the Ukrainians reenacting this... |
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Russia better get that Kerch Bridge repaired pretty quick, lol. They will be needing it sooner than they think i believe
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: When you care enough to send the very best... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Originally Posted By m35ben: When you care enough to send the very best... brutal |
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I've been listening to the score from Enemy at the Gates that played during the river crossing while reading about the attempted crossing of the Dnipro by the Russians.
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It bears some comprehension, that this world is in material communication with the rest of the universe. Evidence for life being widespread and common grows stronger. Even staying within known physics, someone need only have gotten here, anywhere in this galaxy a million years before us to have spread across its entirety. How many billions of years old do the currently fashionable cosmologies posit the universe is? What if someone got here several billion before us?
What could this conflict mean to them? If indeed galactic civilization is mostly heterogeneous and varied, and I believe it likely is across genetic, cultural, technological, astrophysical, organizational, and other lines, what portion among them would take an interest in us and why? |
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: I still think the war is going to go on for a while, especially if Ukraine wants to push the Russians back to the pre-2014 boundaries (which I think they can and should). There's still a lot of fighting to be done to take back the rest of the south/Donbas and especially Crimea, which I think the Russians will fight tooth and nail for. The Ukrainians are going to win provided Western support continues, but the I think the Putin regime can and will throw bodies at them for quite some time still. That being said, I do concur that Russia's chances at coming away with ANYTHING resembling a victory are dying in Kherson. View Quote Yeah I expect it to last a few more years. At best, the pre-2022 borders could be restored in late 2023 but to restore the pre-2014 borders, that could take 5 years. |
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Originally Posted By jungatheart: What happened to recoil? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: M3, 1,100rpm. Wish they were more common after seeing this product demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGR5Rca3llU What happened to recoil? I imagine the mount is a big factor. But there have been studies showing that a high enough ROF, recoil 'bounce' is greatly reduced an becomes more of a constant push like a high pressure hose. The French when designing the FAMAS did a study and found there were vibrational 'nodes' of optimum controllability for humans firing 5.56, corresponding around 600rpm and 1200rpm. ROF below or above 600rpm was way bouncier. Not sure how that applies to a mounted HMG, but I could see the possibility that the 1100rpm M3 would be less 'bouncy' then the slower M2 thats ~450-550rpm. Brrrrrt vs chunka chunka chunka. |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I imagine the mount is a big factor. But there have been studies showing that a high enough ROF, recoil 'bounce' is greatly reduced an becomes more of a constant push like a high pressure hose. The French when designing the FAMAS did a study and found there were vibrational 'nodes' of optimum controllability for humans firing 5.56, corresponding around 600rpm and 1200rpm. ROF below or above 600rpm was way bouncier. Not sure how that applies to a mounted HMG, but I could see the possibility that the 1100rpm M3 would be less 'bouncy' then the slower M2 thats ~450-550rpm. Brrrrrt vs chunka chunka chunka. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: M3, 1,100rpm. Wish they were more common after seeing this product demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGR5Rca3llU What happened to recoil? I imagine the mount is a big factor. But there have been studies showing that a high enough ROF, recoil 'bounce' is greatly reduced an becomes more of a constant push like a high pressure hose. The French when designing the FAMAS did a study and found there were vibrational 'nodes' of optimum controllability for humans firing 5.56, corresponding around 600rpm and 1200rpm. ROF below or above 600rpm was way bouncier. Not sure how that applies to a mounted HMG, but I could see the possibility that the 1100rpm M3 would be less 'bouncy' then the slower M2 thats ~450-550rpm. Brrrrrt vs chunka chunka chunka. Thanks |
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its 6:30 am there, I Imagine we will be seeing photos of carnage soon.
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Originally Posted By ludder093: No restraint. Kill as many Russians as you possibly can. It's time to make a statement. View Quote This reminds me of a song… Go To Sleep |
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I'm expecting a big 200 number tmw, but I don't think the biggest numbers will happen for another day or three. Will be impossible to estimate Russias 200s until they keep getting closer and closer to the Dnipro.
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Originally Posted By Lightning_P38: What did they think was going to happen? Did they suppose the troops left to block were going to stand and fight? Did they believe that knocking over cell towers was going to prevent UA from observing the crossing points for thousands of men? How in the wide world of sports did they not see this as being the only outcome six weeks ago? Did the Russians believe the fucking bridge ferry was going to save them? That all of a sudden UA would decide they didn't get a hard on shelling troop concentrations? View Quote Someone needs to make a meme with our president retard saying man we screwed up the afghan retreat and putty saying hold my vodka and watch this |
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Rybar is reporting that both bridges over Dnipro were destroyed this morning by the Russians, marking the end of the withdrawal of their troops.
If thats true, it either means that most of them got away, or the Ukrainians were getting too close and hopefully some Russians were trapped behind. I can’t imagine them pulling off an orderly retreat, but who knows? There’s a crappy video, supposedly of the destruction of the Antonovsky bridge. https://t.me/voenacher/33046 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: I'm expecting a big 200 number tmw, but I don't think the biggest numbers will happen for another day or three. Will be impossible to estimate Russias 200s until they keep getting closer and closer to the Dnipro. View Quote Agree. The river will delay the numbers by days. |
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Originally Posted By Fltot: Rybar is reporting that both bridges over Dnipro were destroyed this morning by the Russians, marking the end of the withdrawal of their troops. If thats true, it either means that most of them got away, or the Ukrainians were getting too close and hopefully some Russians were trapped behind. I can’t imagine them pulling off an orderly retreat, but who knows? There’s a crappy video, supposedly of the destruction of the Antonovsky bridge. https://t.me/voenacher/33046 View Quote Yup. The railway bridge, which is located next to Antonovsky, is also destroyed The Russian army also destroyed the railway bridge, which is located to the right of Antonovsky. Thus, the paths of the offensive of Ukrainian militants to the left bank are blocked. They can only cross the Dnieper, but this is extremely dangerous. https://t.me/readovkanews/46602 |
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