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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:25:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: I seriously doubt our JDAM kits are going to bolt onto UA's Soviet type dumb bombs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By ricko1: Originally Posted By Cypher15: JDAM kits? Thats... super interesting.. Wonder what THOSE are going to be used for. They have lots of dumb bombs and so do the poles etc. I seriously doubt our JDAM kits are going to bolt onto UA's Soviet type dumb bombs. Not even with self-tappers and duct tape? |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:27:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Looks like a racing quadcopter kamikaze detonated right on the guy’s chest.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Prime:
Brutal.
Looks like a racing quadcopter kamikaze detonated right on the guy’s chest. Or his groin he was rolling on the ground holding that area. Or it blew his guts out Either way, he probably didn’t survive the trip to whatever aid station the Russians have |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:31:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Not even with self-tappers and duct tape? I was told harms couldn’t be fired from mig29s, yet here we are |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: C'mon Puti boy. Don't be a pussy. Be a man like Zelensky. Come and hand out medals to your troops within artillery range of Bakhmut!... I dare you... I double dog dare you! Pussy! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By general_cluster: Originally Posted By PMB1086:
Dude must clank when he walks. that takes some big ones. This makes my day. C'mon Puti boy. Don't be a pussy. Be a man like Zelensky. Come and hand out medals to your troops within artillery range of Bakhmut!... I dare you... I double dog dare you! Pussy! That was absolutely a big part of that visit to the front lines. They are pretty good at producing demoralizing media (demoralizing to the russians). Even from the beginning when they showed the bakery truck making fresh bread for their army, and the mobiks get squat to take with them and probably never get much resupply Not pathetic commercials with 50 year old dad re enlisting so he can buy daughter a cell phone. Or keep a Lada |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:42:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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ISW assessment for December 20th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-20  The pace of Russian advances in the Bakhmut area has not increased in previous weeks. ISW assesses that Russian forces have gained a total of 192 sq km in the Bakhmut area between October 1 and December 20. Russian forces gained 100 sq km in the Bakhmut area between October 1 and November 1 and 92 sq km between November 1 and December 20. The pace of Russian advances in the Bakhmut area over the past 50 days is roughly equivalent to the pace of Russian advances during the month of October. Russian sources will likely continue to try to falsely assert that Russian forces are taking a notable amount of territory in the Bakhmut area. |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO: I did the same and came around - for awhile. The fact is, though, without direct NATO involvement, Ukraine has not chance and every time we up the ante, shit gets more expensive (and dangerous) for us. I care about the United States of America and that's it. Removed from thread, no need to reply - ec Where are you getting your "info"? It's like you are living in an alternate reality but popped into ours for a visit. Seriously, where are you hearing this shit? RT? As a former 11B (myself also) what previous conflict did you root for Russia? Vietnam? Nicaragua? A-stan? Syria? When did you start cheerleading for Russia? You would have been a real prize in the barracks back during the cold war. "Why are we doing all this training? We cant beat the soviets"... |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:47:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: He's a big fan of leftists/Socialists apparently...  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2022-12-20_21-33-03_jpg-2642802.JPG Would he be so vocally against the US banning the communist party? (Yes I know the are the dnc now) How about if China invaded the USA and we banned the official CCP "church"? Would that mean we were nazi's? |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:49:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JQ66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Careless smoking!  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By fisherman: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: That's a whole lot of heat never going to make it into Russian homes. Bundle up Ivan. Man, what is it with that place? Careless smoking! OK, how about a nice titanium grinding swarf or turnings fire at VSMPO in Verhnaya Salda, now! Maybe a chlorine release too in their ore reduction facility. The crew on the ISS would be able to see that one from space. A careless butt will do it. Let’s do it! |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:49:22 PM EDT
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Can we stop talking about someone who is banned from the thread?
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:50:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Very interesting. I have one guess. It involves glide kits on the bombs so that they can be dropped at low altitude and lofted like the pilots are used to doing with rockets, or from behind friendly lines at higher altitudes. The GPS coordinates will probably be setup on trench lines and hardened positions and you can pummel the Russians with 500 to 2000 lb bombs that will hit what you want. This could enable Ukrainian offensives to gain more ground. Without the glide kits, they can still loft them onto the targets, but they'll get closer to the threats as well. There's huge stockpiles of bombs, and the guidance kits are cheap. You'll save on artillery use and the strikes with 2,000 lb bombs would be devastating. VERY interesting. If they are sending them they must have figured out a way to use them. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:53:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Not even with self-tappers and duct tape? Give me some aluminum and a CNC lathe, I'll turn adapter rings 'all night long' |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Would he be so vocally against the US banning the communist party? (Yes I know the are the dnc now) How about if China invaded the USA and we banned the official CCP "church"? Would that mean we were nazi's? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: He's a big fan of leftists/Socialists apparently... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2022-12-20_21-33-03_jpg-2642802.JPG Would he be so vocally against the US banning the communist party? (Yes I know the are the dnc now) How about if China invaded the USA and we banned the official CCP "church"? Would that mean we were nazi's? That's the ironic part. Someone bans leftist political parties undermining his nation and kills Commies, like some on this board have said should be done for years, and then a bunch here get their panties up their crusty camel toe when someone actually does it. 
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:55:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By absael: I was wondering why I had missed the post that everyone is quoting. You probably guessed it - I already had him on Ignore for posting shit like this. Yep. Me too. |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 11:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I was told harms couldn’t be fired from mig29s, yet here we are Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Not even with self-tappers and duct tape? I was told harms couldn’t be fired from mig29s, yet here we are Have you ever looked closely at our Mk 80 series bombs and Soviet FAB series bombs? I suggest you do and then look at what a JDAM kit is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_bomb#Modern_American_GP_bombs:_the_Mark_80_series |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:05:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: They have big downsides, most of the guys who had them ditched em. I bet it’s for the turret as a backup but just a guess. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By Prime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/4DDBE1CD-B163-4559-ADFA-E4CC910D48C2-2642589.jpg A soldier of the SSO of Ukraine wearing a Batlskin Head Protection System ballistic mask. Photo of autumn 2022. #Ukraine #ССО #Photo Those bullpups are tits. Wish we could get kits. They have big downsides, most of the guys who had them ditched em. I bet it’s for the turret as a backup but just a guess. Boo, looks cool and I'm a 74 & variant fan. I'd also happily trade a 74 for what I assume are M4's, Bren 2's, etc... |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:08:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
J-Dam! |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:13:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: Have you ever looked closely at our Mk 80 series bombs and Soviet FAB series bombs? I suggest you do and then look at what a JDAM kit is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_bomb#Modern_American_GP_bombs:_the_Mark_80_series Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Not even with self-tappers and duct tape? I was told harms couldn't be fired from mig29s, yet here we are Have you ever looked closely at our Mk 80 series bombs and Soviet FAB series bombs? I suggest you do and then look at what a JDAM kit is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_bomb#Modern_American_GP_bombs:_the_Mark_80_series |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:13:58 AM EDT
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Has anybody posted David Ignatius recently? I can't read every page.
Ignatius is a longtime Washington Post writer on foreign policy. He has a pair of recent pieces about how Ukraine is leveraging technology as a force multiplier to get better results against the orcs. How the algorithm tipped the balance in Ukraine. Here's some of it: This is the “wizard war” in the Ukraine conflict — a secret digital campaign that has never been reported before in detail — and it’s a big reason David is beating Goliath here. The Ukrainians are fusing their courageous fighting spirit with the most advanced intelligence and battle-management software ever seen in combat. “Tenacity, will and harnessing the latest technology give the Ukrainians a decisive advantage,” Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told me last week. “We are witnessing the ways wars will be fought, and won, for years to come.” I think Milley is right about the transformational effect of technology on the Ukraine battlefield. And for me, here’s the bottom line: With these systems aiding brave Ukrainian troops, the Russians probably cannot win this war. ... “For us, it’s a matter of survival,” argues “Stepan,” the senior Ukrainian officer in the Kyiv demonstration, who before the war designed software for a retail company. Now, he tells me bluntly, “Our goal is to maximize target acquisitions.” To protect his identity, he stripped his unit insignia and other markings from his camouflage uniform before he demonstrated the technology. (The names he and his colleague used were not their real ones; I agreed to their request of anonymity to protect their security.) “Lesya,” the other officer, was also a computer specialist in peacetime. As she looks at the imagery of the Russian invaders, on a day when their drones are savaging civilian targets in Odessa on Ukraine’s southern coast, she mutters a wish for revenge — and a hope that Ukraine will emerge from the war as a tech power. Although the Ukrainians now depend on technology help from the United States, she says, “by the end of the war, we will be selling software to Palantir.” It's a good read about an aspect of the war that gets little attention. There's another in the same area you can find from that page. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:16:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Has anybody posted David Ignatius recently? I can't read every page. Ignatius is a longtime Washington Post writer on foreign policy. He has a pair of recent pieces about how Ukraine is leveraging technology as a force multiplier to get better results against the orcs. How the algorithm tipped the balance in Ukraine. Here's some of it: It's a good read about an aspect of the war that gets little attention. There's another in the same area you can find from that page. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Has anybody posted David Ignatius recently? I can't read every page. Ignatius is a longtime Washington Post writer on foreign policy. He has a pair of recent pieces about how Ukraine is leveraging technology as a force multiplier to get better results against the orcs. How the algorithm tipped the balance in Ukraine. Here's some of it: This is the “wizard war” in the Ukraine conflict — a secret digital campaign that has never been reported before in detail — and it’s a big reason David is beating Goliath here. The Ukrainians are fusing their courageous fighting spirit with the most advanced intelligence and battle-management software ever seen in combat. “Tenacity, will and harnessing the latest technology give the Ukrainians a decisive advantage,” Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told me last week. “We are witnessing the ways wars will be fought, and won, for years to come.” I think Milley is right about the transformational effect of technology on the Ukraine battlefield. And for me, here’s the bottom line: With these systems aiding brave Ukrainian troops, the Russians probably cannot win this war. ... “For us, it’s a matter of survival,” argues “Stepan,” the senior Ukrainian officer in the Kyiv demonstration, who before the war designed software for a retail company. Now, he tells me bluntly, “Our goal is to maximize target acquisitions.” To protect his identity, he stripped his unit insignia and other markings from his camouflage uniform before he demonstrated the technology. (The names he and his colleague used were not their real ones; I agreed to their request of anonymity to protect their security.) “Lesya,” the other officer, was also a computer specialist in peacetime. As she looks at the imagery of the Russian invaders, on a day when their drones are savaging civilian targets in Odessa on Ukraine’s southern coast, she mutters a wish for revenge — and a hope that Ukraine will emerge from the war as a tech power. Although the Ukrainians now depend on technology help from the United States, she says, “by the end of the war, we will be selling software to Palantir.” It's a good read about an aspect of the war that gets little attention. There's another in the same area you can find from that page. Non paywall link.  https://archive.ph/TD9Jb |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:17:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Flogger23m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I was told harms couldn’t be fired from mig29s, yet here we are Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Not even with self-tappers and duct tape? I was told harms couldn’t be fired from mig29s, yet here we are Probably easier to do than HARMs. Same with laser guided bombs probably. I am assuming if they can throw a tacked on screen and run wires/power to it, you can slap a targetting pod of your choice and use a western laser guided bomb. Even basic JDAM/laser guided munitions would be a huge help. Much better than lobbing rockets at an open field. The big problem will still be enemy fighters. Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By Prime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/4DDBE1CD-B163-4559-ADFA-E4CC910D48C2-2642589.jpg A soldier of the SSO of Ukraine wearing a Batlskin Head Protection System ballistic mask. Photo of autumn 2022. #Ukraine #ССО #Photo Those bullpups are tits. Wish we could get kits. They have big downsides, most of the guys who had them ditched em. I bet it’s for the turret as a backup but just a guess. Boo, looks cool and I'm a 74 & variant fan. I'd also happily trade a 74 for what I assume are M4's, Bren 2's, etc... I can't imagine any bullpup kit will be anything more than a half functional solution. If you want a bullpup design it from the ground up. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:19:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fkd4PHOXoAAfxDF?format=jpg&name=medium Roscosmos has not yet received funding for the creation of the Russian orbital station
Oh they’ll get a chance to “be history…” alright. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:20:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Not even with self-tappers and duct tape? |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:29:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Has anybody posted David Ignatius recently? I can't read every page. Ignatius is a longtime Washington Post writer on foreign policy. He has a pair of recent pieces about how Ukraine is leveraging technology as a force multiplier to get better results against the orcs. How the algorithm tipped the balance in Ukraine. Here's some of it: This is the “wizard war” in the Ukraine conflict — a secret digital campaign that has never been reported before in detail — and it’s a big reason David is beating Goliath here. The Ukrainians are fusing their courageous fighting spirit with the most advanced intelligence and battle-management software ever seen in combat. “Tenacity, will and harnessing the latest technology give the Ukrainians a decisive advantage,” Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told me last week. “We are witnessing the ways wars will be fought, and won, for years to come.” I think Milley is right about the transformational effect of technology on the Ukraine battlefield. And for me, here’s the bottom line: With these systems aiding brave Ukrainian troops, the Russians probably cannot win this war. ... “For us, it’s a matter of survival,” argues “Stepan,” the senior Ukrainian officer in the Kyiv demonstration, who before the war designed software for a retail company. Now, he tells me bluntly, “Our goal is to maximize target acquisitions.” To protect his identity, he stripped his unit insignia and other markings from his camouflage uniform before he demonstrated the technology. (The names he and his colleague used were not their real ones; I agreed to their request of anonymity to protect their security.) “Lesya,” the other officer, was also a computer specialist in peacetime. As she looks at the imagery of the Russian invaders, on a day when their drones are savaging civilian targets in Odessa on Ukraine’s southern coast, she mutters a wish for revenge — and a hope that Ukraine will emerge from the war as a tech power. Although the Ukrainians now depend on technology help from the United States, she says, “by the end of the war, we will be selling software to Palantir.” It's a good read about an aspect of the war that gets little attention. There's another in the same area you can find from that page. Non paywall link. https://archive.ph/TD9Jb Finished reading it. "Wizard War" indeed! Sounds like it makes BFT look like Etchasketch. And it's heartening to know that if this system is this effective against the rigidly structured Russian forces, it would likely fare as well (and better when we're utilizing its full capabilities) against similarly structured Chinese forces. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:31:22 AM EDT
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Please stop reacting to the trolls rehashing old arguments. Just put them on ignore.
Mods and staff are doing a great job of removing people who troll so this can remain focused on factual information and analysis. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:38:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SuperSixOne]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -SkyRaider-: How is it that the Rooskies haven't wacked Zelensky yet? He's moving around blindly, without announcing intentions. Well defended when in known static positions like Kiev. I've been to Kiev (and Moscow). The building sizes are on a huge scale, and all steel reinforced concrete construction. You could literally JDAM one and not take it out. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:42:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
 Attached FileWell I suppose if grandson is blown to pieces in Ukraine there’s one less mouth to feed on grandad’s pension. What a fucked up country. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:44:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Russian TG thoughts on the matter. Posted by a Z channel, and reposted by Wagner. "Geniuses" continue to create. This is the second video that shows that the main motivation of a Russian man to go to war is poverty. This material is an information sabotage aimed at discrediting Russia, discrediting the servicemen of the RF Armed Forces and demoralizing our soldiers. If this product was produced in Russia, I hope that our law enforcement agencies will identify the creators of this masterpiece and take action. @NeoficialniyBeZsonoV https://t.me/rsotmdivision/3271 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Russian TG thoughts on the matter. Posted by a Z channel, and reposted by Wagner. "Geniuses" continue to create. This is the second video that shows that the main motivation of a Russian man to go to war is poverty. This material is an information sabotage aimed at discrediting Russia, discrediting the servicemen of the RF Armed Forces and demoralizing our soldiers. If this product was produced in Russia, I hope that our law enforcement agencies will identify the creators of this masterpiece and take action. @NeoficialniyBeZsonoV https://t.me/rsotmdivision/3271 Waiting for a Russian recruitment commercial to extol the benefits of rape, robbery, and lawlessness. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 12:54:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: This reportedly happened this month.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkdGlyvXwAI2tbz?format=jpg&name=large That’ll buff right out. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 1:03:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: He can't hear you sitting 50 feet away on the other side of that long ass desk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: C'mon Puti boy. Don't be a pussy. Be a man like Zelensky. Come and hand out medals to your troops within artillery range of Bakhmut!... I dare you... I double dog dare you! Pussy! He can't hear you sitting 50 feet away on the other side of that long ass desk.  |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 1:11:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: I'm very curious how they will get JDAMs to work on their jets. The HARM was neat, but I imagine it's less challenging then getting a JDAM to work. I seem to remember that Ukraine is supposed to be getting some Migs that were updated to be compatible with NATO standard weapons. Maybe this is a sign that the transfer will finally happen. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 1:18:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
 Tenacious D - Fuck Yeah! Big news if true. Going to enjoy the Patriot intercepts and the forthcoming vids of 500-pound laser-guided bombs opening up Russian tanks like sardine cans. The heat just got turned up a notch. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 1:38:50 AM EDT
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Cosack Gundi is supposed to be on Funker530 tomorrow. It should start at 5 pm central time.
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Posted: 12/21/2022 1:41:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: That was absolutely a big part of that visit to the front lines. They are pretty good at producing demoralizing media (demoralizing to the russians). Even from the beginning when they showed the bakery truck making fresh bread for their army, and the mobiks get squat to take with them and probably never get much resupply Not pathetic commercials with 50 year old dad re enlisting so he can buy daughter a cell phone. Or keep a Lada Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By general_cluster: Originally Posted By PMB1086:
Dude must clank when he walks. that takes some big ones. This makes my day. C'mon Puti boy. Don't be a pussy. Be a man like Zelensky. Come and hand out medals to your troops within artillery range of Bakhmut!... I dare you... I double dog dare you! Pussy! That was absolutely a big part of that visit to the front lines. They are pretty good at producing demoralizing media (demoralizing to the russians). Even from the beginning when they showed the bakery truck making fresh bread for their army, and the mobiks get squat to take with them and probably never get much resupply Not pathetic commercials with 50 year old dad re enlisting so he can buy daughter a cell phone. Or keep a Lada Of course it roused the troops and rallied his nation but that trip was a PR masterpiece in the worldwide propaganda war with Putin. And the contrast plays far far beyond the pathetic disgusting commercials Russia has been making. Putin has spent years crafting his image as a tough guy. He's the guy who wrestles bears and rides horses bare chested. Immense sums of money have been spent to plant the idea in peoples minds that Putin is the very embodiment of the Russia stronk platitude. Putin has had to do this because as a bully he's actually insecure and cowardly. He has to hide behind a fake image of machismo. Zelensky just out machismo'd the bully. Watcha' gonna do Vlad? Checkmate. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 1:51:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Very interesting. I have one guess. It involves glide kits on the bombs so that they can be dropped at low altitude and lofted like the pilots are used to doing with rockets, or from behind friendly lines at higher altitudes. The GPS coordinates will probably be setup on trench lines and hardened positions and you can pummel the Russians with 500 to 2000 lb bombs that will hit what you want. This could enable Ukrainian offensives to gain more ground. Without the glide kits, they can still loft them onto the targets, but they'll get closer to the threats as well. There's huge stockpiles of bombs, and the guidance kits are cheap. You'll save on artillery use and the strikes with 2,000 lb bombs would be devastating. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
JDAM kits? Thats... super interesting.. Wonder what THOSE are going to be used for. Very interesting. I have one guess. It involves glide kits on the bombs so that they can be dropped at low altitude and lofted like the pilots are used to doing with rockets, or from behind friendly lines at higher altitudes. The GPS coordinates will probably be setup on trench lines and hardened positions and you can pummel the Russians with 500 to 2000 lb bombs that will hit what you want. This could enable Ukrainian offensives to gain more ground. Without the glide kits, they can still loft them onto the targets, but they'll get closer to the threats as well. There's huge stockpiles of bombs, and the guidance kits are cheap. You'll save on artillery use and the strikes with 2,000 lb bombs would be devastating. They UAF might be able to use toss-bombing techniques with these to avoid SAM envelopes. From high speed level flight at low altitude, pull up to 45 degrees and release. Bomb will continue approximately 7-8 miles, enough to stay out of MANPAD range as well as systems like TUNGUSKA. If they can get the flight profile nailed down and achieve good communication between attack aircraft and designator, they should be able to hit Russian targets with near impunity. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 2:20:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Of course it roused the troops and rallied his nation but that trip was a PR masterpiece in the worldwide propaganda war with Putin. And the contrast plays far far beyond the pathetic disgusting commercials Russia has been making. Putin has spent years crafting his image as a tough guy. He's the guy who wrestles bears and rides horses bare chested. Immense sums of money have been spent to plant the idea in peoples minds that Putin is the very embodiment of the Russia stronk platitude. Putin has had to do this because as a bully he's actually insecure and cowardly. He has to hide behind a fake image of machismo. Zelensky just out machismo'd the bully. Watcha' gonna do Vlad? Checkmate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By general_cluster: Originally Posted By PMB1086:
Dude must clank when he walks. that takes some big ones. This makes my day. C'mon Puti boy. Don't be a pussy. Be a man like Zelensky. Come and hand out medals to your troops within artillery range of Bakhmut!... I dare you... I double dog dare you! Pussy! That was absolutely a big part of that visit to the front lines. They are pretty good at producing demoralizing media (demoralizing to the russians). Even from the beginning when they showed the bakery truck making fresh bread for their army, and the mobiks get squat to take with them and probably never get much resupply Not pathetic commercials with 50 year old dad re enlisting so he can buy daughter a cell phone. Or keep a Lada Of course it roused the troops and rallied his nation but that trip was a PR masterpiece in the worldwide propaganda war with Putin. And the contrast plays far far beyond the pathetic disgusting commercials Russia has been making. Putin has spent years crafting his image as a tough guy. He's the guy who wrestles bears and rides horses bare chested. Immense sums of money have been spent to plant the idea in peoples minds that Putin is the very embodiment of the Russia stronk platitude. Putin has had to do this because as a bully he's actually insecure and cowardly. He has to hide behind a fake image of machismo. Zelensky just out machismo'd the bully. Watcha' gonna do Vlad? Checkmate. That’s a good point which got some confirmation in the recent big NYT article. Reportedly since 2018 (before the invasion) Putin started to personalize his animosity toward Zelensky, because Zelensky proved not to be the lightweight that Putin expected and hoped for. Now Zelensky is proving to be the courageous leader that Putin pretended to be over 20 years. That must really stick in his craw. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 2:49:43 AM EDT
[#36]
A 14 year old Ukrainian boy tortured by the Russians. The Original tweet
The auto translated version
Could @Easterner @gentlemanfarmer or anyone else who understands the language translate the captions on the screen? The AI translator is only translating the spoken words. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 4:32:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheLurker]
[#37]
So close to 100k! Tomorrow is the day we'll see it roll over into 6 figure orc casualties  Who wins the arf sweepstake? |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 4:47:45 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker:
So close to 100k! Tomorrow is the day we'll see it roll over into 6 figure orc casualties Who wins the arf sweepstake? 
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Posted: 12/21/2022 4:59:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Easterner]
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Posted: 12/21/2022 5:23:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
[#40]
Photo of the "Artemsol" enterprise in Soledar, Donetsk region, located on the front line
Previously, Artemsol was the main supplier of salt in Ukraine.
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Posted: 12/21/2022 5:34:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2022 5:49:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2022 7:37:18 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkcUHG0WIBgcuFX?format=jpg&name=large Dig them up and send them back to Russia |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 7:50:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Cool infographics! If you've got the higher res versions, you should upload them to imgur. ARFCOM image hosting compresses the fuck out of them and adds all sorts of artifacts that make it hard to read. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By sq40: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/02DED84A-784E-4584-A302-6EA0E7DAB17D_jpe-2642824.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/A63955E9-719F-456F-82B2-E3CAED97CEFC_jpe-2642825.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/679E268B-391A-454A-967F-20DEC29003B5_jpe-2642826.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/C6BAD597-4359-4EC2-AD5B-3CCB7C604E1A_jpe-2642827.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/2FD4D98A-B966-4867-BBFD-852035F02300_jpe-2642828.JPG Cool infographics! If you've got the higher res versions, you should upload them to imgur. ARFCOM image hosting compresses the fuck out of them and adds all sorts of artifacts that make it hard to read. I will do that. The native files i got from reddit seems to have compressed on my ipad. My bad. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 7:55:22 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkfH7dIXkAEGJ0e?format=jpg&name=large https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/21/zelenskyy-biden-weapons-standoff-congress-00074918 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/CFACC6B1-684F-4047-9269-F3CE48576060-2643028.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/3E02F132-B236-4C07-B11B-677F5D9A5D98-2643029.jpg Still not budging on the ATACMS because Putin might hurt Ukraine. What. The. Fuck.  |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 8:06:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2022 8:08:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2022 8:16:08 AM EDT
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Alleged video of Zelensky arriving in Przemysl, Poland by train, then departing on flight to US.
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Posted: 12/21/2022 8:17:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog15: Still not budging on the ATACMS because Putin might hurt Ukraine. What. The. Fuck. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog15: Originally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkfH7dIXkAEGJ0e?format=jpg&name=large https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/21/zelenskyy-biden-weapons-standoff-congress-00074918 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/CFACC6B1-684F-4047-9269-F3CE48576060-2643028.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/3E02F132-B236-4C07-B11B-677F5D9A5D98-2643029.jpg Still not budging on the ATACMS because Putin might hurt Ukraine. What. The. Fuck. I think a lot of that is a smokescreen for our own internal conflicts over various issues; from technology Russia will acquire in captures and debris, conflicts over budget, conflicts over support, providing SMEs and advisors, using up our stockpiles… the list probably goes on and on. I’m sure there are people in our military and political space pushing hard against supporting Ukraine and there is a whole lot of backroom talk over everything. |
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Posted: 12/21/2022 8:59:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gentlemanfarmer]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: A 14 year old Ukrainian boy tortured by the Russians. The Original tweet
The auto translated version
I will if not done already but can’t till after work 6pm est. Could @Easterner @gentlemanfarmer or anyone else who understands the language translate the captions on the screen? The AI translator is only translating the spoken words. I started but can’t handle kid torture stuff right now, been on the edge for a few days. The kids stuff just pushes me to far. I know what they do to kids, I can’t loose my job and run off to fight. |
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