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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:40:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Ukrainka?  This is far far away from Ukraine, I don't buy it. https://i.imgur.com/2xtJCNz.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Chatter, sequence of events.
Ukrainka? This is far far away from Ukraine, I don't buy it. https://i.imgur.com/2xtJCNz.jpg Unless they’d be dumb enough to hit US military bases in AK? |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Unless they’d be dumb enough to hit US military bases in AK? I was wrong, read my other post. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:43:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:45:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: They could move the capital to Vladivostok. Can’t risk that. No one can be 100% sure that will still be in the Russian Federation in two years’ time. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:49:24 PM EDT
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Don't leave Clayton Morris out of the nutbag column
 It's WORSE than they're telling you in Ukraine | Redacted with Clayton Morris |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:51:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:54:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Where's the Pee Wee Herman "I meant to do that!", GIF.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Where's the Pee Wee Herman "I meant to do that!", GIF. I think the spirit of Pee Wee Herman's Dad is prevalent in Ukraine Milton Rubenfeld (Hebrew: מילטון רובנפלד; September 13, 1919 – February 21, 2004) was a pilot who flew for the Royal Air Force and U.S. Army during World War II, later becoming one of the five founding pilots of the Israeli Air Force in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. It is widely believed that Rubenfeld, the other four volunteer pilots, and the other machalniks changed the course of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Rubenfeld [Sorry, although almost totally unrelated I could not resist posting the story of an amazing man, Milton Rubenfeld IMDB Link to Documentary] |
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ON, CAN
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:58:21 PM EDT
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If Ukraine has the ability to strike Engels, why not mass strike it?
Not enough munitions? If the above is the case, strategically it was a good decision to harass that airfield. Outside of the damages, it increases lead time for detection of bombardment and makes it logistically more difficult and expensive to launch those bombardments (especially in the context of mid-air refuelling requirements). The lack of long range munitions is definitely a frustration at this point. But, if the capabilities are there, wouldn't a decisive mass strike make more sense? Fear of nuclear escalation? Maybe small attacks draw less ire than one giant one? If UKR is already hitting assets that RU obviously wants to preserve, and in the context of hitting supply depots and logistics points that are in RU territory, what is the fear of UKR possessing and strategically using long range munitions such as ATACMS. Obviously UKR is not going to fire them willy nilly into city centres as that is RU playbook, so come on already. I feel at this point, NATO needs to start equipping UKR with assets that will start to answer some of the stalemates going on. Assets that will crush Wagner at Bakhmut. Give them strike capability into Crimea and beyond. And give them long range anti-air systems that can strike RU long range bombers while they are in flight. Permit UKR to engage air targets over Belarus while we're at it. Or allow UKR to launch attacks from other territories. Hit the AWACS stuff and start taking the fight to them. I am of course just arm-chairing here, but the longer this drags out, the more everyone is going to suffer. Mitigating this situation will mitigate a lot of potential global issues. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 5:59:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Awesome if true. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:03:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Major win for Ukraine! I'm sure more info will come soon |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:06:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Don't leave Clayton Morris out of the nutbag column  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLh0KYZB9qMI stopped at "... genocide that's been carried out in the Donbas by Ukrainian soldiers with the help of NATO..." 
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ContraHQ: I think the spirit of Pee Wee Herman's Dad is prevalent in Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Rubenfeld [Sorry, although almost totally unrelated I could not resist posting the story of an amazing man, Milton Rubenfeld IMDB Link to Documentary] Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ContraHQ: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Where's the Pee Wee Herman "I meant to do that!", GIF. I think the spirit of Pee Wee Herman's Dad is prevalent in Ukraine Milton Rubenfeld (Hebrew: מילטון רובנפלד; September 13, 1919 – February 21, 2004) was a pilot who flew for the Royal Air Force and U.S. Army during World War II, later becoming one of the five founding pilots of the Israeli Air Force in the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. It is widely believed that Rubenfeld, the other four volunteer pilots, and the other machalniks changed the course of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Rubenfeld [Sorry, although almost totally unrelated I could not resist posting the story of an amazing man, Milton Rubenfeld IMDB Link to Documentary]  Did not know that!
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:17:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:17:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I stopped at "... genocide that's been carried out in the Donbas by Ukrainian soldiers with the help of NATO..." https://i.imgur.com/VkTcyKh.gif |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:17:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: If Ukraine has the ability to strike Engels, why not mass strike it? Not enough munitions? I going with not enough long range missiles or drones. For the attack on Dec. 5th Ukraine allegedly used the old Tupolev Tu-141 drones. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:28:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I didn't finish it either I stopped when he started in on Ukrainians can't talk about the blackouts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I stopped at "... genocide that's been carried out in the Donbas by Ukrainian soldiers with the help of NATO..." https://i.imgur.com/VkTcyKh.gif 
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:29:41 PM EDT
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Prepare for a possible missile attack.
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:31:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:32:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UKjohn: 40 seconds and i tapped out |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:38:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:39:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Utah_88: Done and bump Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Utah_88: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/3613A35D-149E-478E-9913-6571EB118FA5_jpe-2648259.JPG Going to Bhakmut new with toys https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/04D3F319-2F02-47C0-9DAB-5384A4A98E65_jpe-2648261.JPG After a few weeks in Bhakmut, brigade has lost significant personnel and equipment A resident of this forum has asked us to help raise money towards getting them some new Motorolas. Christmas drive for a Commers Cousin in Bhakmut I'll let the Arfcommer announce himself, but we talked to his Cousins brigade, and since Bhakmut supplies are #1 right now, let's go!!! Any residual will go towards another units pickup replacement, unit also in Bhakmut. Also merry Christmas from industrial OP Bhakmut https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/1DBF4C26-4517-4EBE-851A-253007D31621_jpe-2648271.JPG Merry hangover everyone, we are at about 40% of funds needed for radios. Please Thanks much we’re at 50% |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:40:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy:
 This made my day. I’m just praying it burned a bomber on ready standby |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:43:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: I going with not enough long range missiles or drones. For the attack on Dec. 5th Ukraine allegedly used the old Tupolev Tu-141 drones. Yup and possibly the US telling them to cause limited damage. Do enough to get the job done and thats it. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk6IybgXoAAE1en?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk7IWPVWIAEuV63?format=jpg&name=large There must be a closer airbase? Or is this just getting them beyond the range of the larger drones? |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt was more than a single drone that did all this damage. Something more is happening than the public is aware of. There had been some talk many moons ago about Ukraine obtaining a missile system from Korea with capabilities similar to our ATACMS. Could this attack be conducted with these? |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:49:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cincinnatus: Ukraine REALLY needs to destroy the Russian brigade in Transnistria. Partner with Moldova to get it done. I’ve been pushing that for years. It’s maybe 2-4k, heck buy em out. Just go, here is 20 million, but you get it after we clear the stocks. Or a lighting pincher. It’s only because we won’t let Ukraine fight the logical way. We place all kinds of barriers in front of them. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:50:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: It was more than a single drone that did all this damage. Something more is happening than the public is aware of. There had been some talk many moons ago about Ukraine obtaining a missile system from Korea with capabilities similar to our ATACMS. Could this attack be conducted with these? base was 800km away right? Far outside ATACMs if so. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:50:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: I don't know how anyone can watch that crap and believe it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By UKjohn: 40 seconds and i tapped out Like I said, #BringBackHUAC |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:57:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: My ex grew up there and went to uni there; l asked her about that idea this summer. She said that would get about 2% support across Moldova. The sense of Moldovan identity was too high even among the majority Romanian/Moldovan ethnic group, and for the Ukrainian and Russian ethnic minorities it was basically a declaration of war. She said it was like speculating Canada would join the US for protection and about as probable at the moment. Like, you, I’ve seen the idea mentioned so I asked - and it doesn’t seem likely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Moldova has a blow off valve in that people who prefer the west get Romanian citizenship and leave the Russian lovers behind. My preferred solution is Moldova ceding the left bank of the Dniester to Ukraine and then becoming a part of Romania. My ex grew up there and went to uni there; l asked her about that idea this summer. She said that would get about 2% support across Moldova. The sense of Moldovan identity was too high even among the majority Romanian/Moldovan ethnic group, and for the Ukrainian and Russian ethnic minorities it was basically a declaration of war. She said it was like speculating Canada would join the US for protection and about as probable at the moment. Like, you, I’ve seen the idea mentioned so I asked - and it doesn’t seem likely. One thing to remember is Moldova was the last soviet commie shit hole to go. They were communist till like 2008 or something. I met Moldovans that literally had thriller posters and cassettes for music then. They are either gypsy, Russian, or Romanian. Crystal meth and crime capital of Europe. They have no military. Ukraine could and should take it and “De mine it” then give it back after Moldova proves its non- orc aligned. Exchange the 1500 or whatever are left peace keepers for UA. Get old kit win win but no we can’t do that. Too provocative. Got to leave an enemy force in your deep rear. Makes perfect tactical sense, us state dept/politic/mil at its best. Maybe it will change? Crimea was a no go years ago so anything is possible. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:57:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: If Ukraine has the ability to strike Engels, why not mass strike it? Not enough munitions? If the above is the case, strategically it was a good decision to harass that airfield. Outside of the damages, it increases lead time for detection of bombardment and makes it logistically more difficult and expensive to launch those bombardments (especially in the context of mid-air refuelling requirements). The lack of long range munitions is definitely a frustration at this point. But, if the capabilities are there, wouldn't a decisive mass strike make more sense? Fear of nuclear escalation? Maybe small attacks draw less ire than one giant one? If UKR is already hitting assets that RU obviously wants to preserve, and in the context of hitting supply depots and logistics points that are in RU territory, what is the fear of UKR possessing and strategically using long range munitions such as ATACMS. Obviously UKR is not going to fire them willy nilly into city centres as that is RU playbook, so come on already. I feel at this point, NATO needs to start equipping UKR with assets that will start to answer some of the stalemates going on. Assets that will crush Wagner at Bakhmut. Give them strike capability into Crimea and beyond. And give them long range anti-air systems that can strike RU long range bombers while they are in flight. Permit UKR to engage air targets over Belarus while we're at it. Or allow UKR to launch attacks from other territories. Hit the AWACS stuff and start taking the fight to them. I am of course just arm-chairing here, but the longer this drags out, the more everyone is going to suffer. Mitigating this situation will mitigate a lot of potential global issues. Excellent post. I agree 100% |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 6:58:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex9661: Disclaimer: I'm a lazy bastard and I haven't done any research on this subject. Question: what's the status of this brigade? Locals can provide them with food and assist with repair and maintenance of some of their gear but they can't get any supplies from the mother ship. Last time I checked, the Moldovan airspace was closed for all Russian flights and the only other way to fly there from Russia is over Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex9661: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Ukraine REALLY needs to destroy the Russian brigade in Transnistria. Partner with Moldova to get it done. Disclaimer: I'm a lazy bastard and I haven't done any research on this subject. Question: what's the status of this brigade? Locals can provide them with food and assist with repair and maintenance of some of their gear but they can't get any supplies from the mother ship. Last time I checked, the Moldovan airspace was closed for all Russian flights and the only other way to fly there from Russia is over Ukraine. I have and it’s so doable it’s a cake walk but politics. See my above post. Oh yeah thanks!!! |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:02:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: It was more than a single drone that did all this damage. Something more is happening than the public is aware of. There had been some talk many moons ago about Ukraine obtaining a missile system from Korea with capabilities similar to our ATACMS. Could this attack be conducted with these? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: It was more than a single drone that did all this damage. Something more is happening than the public is aware of. There had been some talk many moons ago about Ukraine obtaining a missile system from Korea with capabilities similar to our ATACMS. Could this attack be conducted with these? No, maximum range for the said missiles is ~ 200 km (120 mi). |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:04:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Let's see what nutty America hating stuff Douglas Macgregor pushes on this quitet Boxing day. It's really a shame and i cant fathom how a former judge would fall for that NONSENSE (don't give em the click) - US made Russia attack Ukraine. - Ukraine army is eliminated. - OMG the Millitairy Industrial Complex is making weapons - UE Troops revolting, Zeleksky just orders troops to die. - Russian victory is inevitable, experts like Scott Ritter have said this and is now proven to be correct. - America is a warmonger and responsible for the suffering in Ukraine. - Ukrainians in the south are in fact Russians. - Russia didn't want to invade but just protecting Russians from genocide. - Ukrainian forces are strategically irrelevant to the Russians. - US to station Special Forces in Ukraine under the guise of embassy guards. - US to mobilze national guard reserves because US is war monger and doesn't want to negotiate. - US cant conductuct offensive opperations past NATO border becuase just inempt or something. - Let's negotiate. - DOD not truthfull about what's on the ground. - US faces foodshortages, doom gloom ect. because focused Ukiaine . - Eastern Ukraine will be annexed. - US is war monger, Taiwan and China really bestest buddies. - US has lost it's mind and pushing China to inavde Taiwan. - Almost a majority of Taiwanese are actually pro Beijing. I appreciate you posting those summaries. No way I would watch that shit, but it's good to get a synopsis of what rubbish comes out. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:05:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk6rTChWQAURs_Z?format=jpg&name=large I wish they’d give more credit then they do. The semi autonomous groups like the mansour (done cool crap) the Georgians ( also done cool crap) and the Yagers (also) but we rarely here about the real combined efforts because most of the army is really strict on OPSEC as it should be. But we end up really thinking company sized groups are winning battles against brigades. I know guys in that fight right now -1. They need to be given the praise they deserve at some point. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:10:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: I wish they’d give more credit then they do. The semi autonomous groups like the mansour (done cool crap) the Georgians ( also done cool crap) and the Yagers (also) but we rarely here about the real combined efforts because most of the army is really strict on OPSEC as it should be. But we end up really thinking company sized groups are winning battles against brigades. I know guys in that fight right now -1. They need to be given the praise they deserve at some point. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk6rTChWQAURs_Z?format=jpg&name=large I wish they’d give more credit then they do. The semi autonomous groups like the mansour (done cool crap) the Georgians ( also done cool crap) and the Yagers (also) but we rarely here about the real combined efforts because most of the army is really strict on OPSEC as it should be. But we end up really thinking company sized groups are winning battles against brigades. I know guys in that fight right now -1. They need to be given the praise they deserve at some point. I certainly agree with you. Perhaps in time when things settle down. It's all the publicly available info to pass on though. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:15:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Don't leave Clayton Morris out of the nutbag column https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLh0KYZB9qMNever heard of him but good. Probably under the Tucker network. It would be great if someone had their networks mapped. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: I going with not enough long range missiles or drones. For the attack on Dec. 5th Ukraine allegedly used the old Tupolev Tu-141 drones. And even if you have enough to make a massed strike, you don't know if you'll be successful or not -- you certainly don't have any track record with 600 km missions using Tupolev drones. If you mass them all and it doesn't work, you're shot. If it doesn't work, you have a correction cycle for the next strike. Decision-wise, the small strike is minimizing your maximum regret (here, an Alpha strike that misses and uses up your capability) which usually isn't a bad way to go about something. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:18:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Don't leave Clayton Morris out of the nutbag column https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLh0KYZB9qMClayton Morris is a fraud, has got in trouble over tens of millions in real estate scams. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:19:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk75Pf0WIAAoiOb?format=jpg&name=large Probably pulled from all the stolen farm equipment. People wouldn’t believe the level agricultural sophistication in Ukraine. It was on par with Iowa or Kansas. Lots of tractor outlets for the big guys 100HP on up to the giant suckers. Easy raid |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:22:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Don't leave Clayton Morris out of the nutbag column https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLh0KYZB9qMWhat in the Fuck?! 
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:26:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOh that is excellent if true. Over 10% of their operational Tu-95 fleet. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:27:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Excellent post. I agree 100% Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By Paraflare: If Ukraine has the ability to strike Engels, why not mass strike it? Not enough munitions? If the above is the case, strategically it was a good decision to harass that airfield. Outside of the damages, it increases lead time for detection of bombardment and makes it logistically more difficult and expensive to launch those bombardments (especially in the context of mid-air refuelling requirements). The lack of long range munitions is definitely a frustration at this point. But, if the capabilities are there, wouldn't a decisive mass strike make more sense? Fear of nuclear escalation? Maybe small attacks draw less ire than one giant one? If UKR is already hitting assets that RU obviously wants to preserve, and in the context of hitting supply depots and logistics points that are in RU territory, what is the fear of UKR possessing and strategically using long range munitions such as ATACMS. Obviously UKR is not going to fire them willy nilly into city centres as that is RU playbook, so come on already. I feel at this point, NATO needs to start equipping UKR with assets that will start to answer some of the stalemates going on. Assets that will crush Wagner at Bakhmut. Give them strike capability into Crimea and beyond. And give them long range anti-air systems that can strike RU long range bombers while they are in flight. Permit UKR to engage air targets over Belarus while we're at it. Or allow UKR to launch attacks from other territories. Hit the AWACS stuff and start taking the fight to them. I am of course just arm-chairing here, but the longer this drags out, the more everyone is going to suffer. Mitigating this situation will mitigate a lot of potential global issues. Excellent post. I agree 100% They don’t have mass ability and no one’s giving them long range stuff currently. They could maybe make 4 a month without serious western help as a guess. Now if we helped them field indigenous stuff it would be a different story. But those factories tend to blow up or are dispersed into areas of fewer attacks but subject to rolling blackouts. I mean they probably lost some capacity. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:27:35 PM EDT
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Time for electrical substations around Moscow to start going 'Boom'.
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:27:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk75Pf0WIAAoiOb?format=jpg&name=large I'm not sure cast iron is going to be very good for armor, though. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:28:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Let's see what nutty America hating stuff Douglas Macgregor pushes on this quitet Boxing day. It's really a shame and i cant fathom how a former judge would fall for that NONSENSE (don't give em the click) - US made Russia attack Ukraine. - Ukraine army is eliminated. - OMG the Millitairy Industrial Complex is making weapons - UE Troops revolting, Zeleksky just orders troops to die. - Russian victory is inevitable, experts like Scott Ritter have said this and is now proven to be correct. - America is a warmonger and responsible for the suffering in Ukraine. - Ukrainians in the south are in fact Russians. - Russia didn't want to invade but just protecting Russians from genocide. - Ukrainian forces are strategically irrelevant to the Russians. - US to station Special Forces in Ukraine under the guise of embassy guards. - US to mobilze national guard reserves because US is war monger and doesn't want to negotiate. - US cant conductuct offensive opperations past NATO border becuase just inempt or something. - Let's negotiate. - DOD not truthfull about what's on the ground. - US faces foodshortages, doom gloom ect. because focused Ukiaine . - Eastern Ukraine will be annexed. - US is war monger, Taiwan and China really bestest buddies. - US has lost it's mind and pushing China to inavde Taiwan. - Almost a majority of Taiwanese are actually pro Beijing. I've been wondering when we'll start seeing the pro-ccp propaganda emerge. Not surprised to see it. Won't be surprised to see it regurgitated here, either. |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:29:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vahog: And even if you have enough to make a massed strike, you don't know if you'll be successful or not -- you certainly don't have any track record with 600 km missions using Tupolev drones. If you mass them all and it doesn't work, you're shot. If it doesn't work, you have a correction cycle for the next strike. Decision-wise, the small strike is minimizing your maximum regret (here, an Alpha strike that misses and uses up your capability) which usually isn't a bad way to go about something. You think it was potentially the storm shadow cruise missile? They have a range of what 560km? So they could potentially be launching them from closer to the front or maybe pushing them past their on paper range? Or maybe it is the tupolev drones converted to quasi cruise missiles Or maybe it’s a domestic project Ukraine is keeping secret and using sparingly in testing |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:32:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fk75Pf0WIAAoiOb?format=jpg&name=large “The T-80 Research Group” Nice. 
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:33:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: 👏 merry Christmas. Yeah having comms is #2 after warm clothes and ammo. Can’t help on the ammo/weapons but can everywhere else. They ask my wife or me, I find it, she gets it there. This one’s easy because Motorola is there embedded but units are allocated so many, you loose 6 in a couple weeks you go w/o. That’s not a good recipe in Donbas. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Originally Posted By muddcreek: Just sent over a few dollars for the cause. I was going to send some excess equipment I have but I think you know better than me what's needed. Merry Christmas. 👏 merry Christmas. Yeah having comms is #2 after warm clothes and ammo. Can’t help on the ammo/weapons but can everywhere else. They ask my wife or me, I find it, she gets it there. This one’s easy because Motorola is there embedded but units are allocated so many, you loose 6 in a couple weeks you go w/o. That’s not a good recipe in Donbas. Just donated another $100 for the 68 Brigade fund. Слава Україні |
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Posted: 12/26/2022 7:35:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/3613A35D-149E-478E-9913-6571EB118FA5_jpe-2648259.JPG Going to Bhakmut new with toys https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/04D3F319-2F02-47C0-9DAB-5384A4A98E65_jpe-2648261.JPG After a few weeks in Bhakmut, brigade has lost significant personnel and equipment A resident of this forum has asked us to help raise money towards getting them some new Motorolas. Christmas drive for a Commers Cousin in Bhakmut I’ll let the Arfcommer announce himself, but we talked to his Cousins brigade, and since Bhakmut supplies are #1 right now, let’s go!!! Any residual will go towards another units pickup replacement, unit also in Bhakmut. Also merry Christmas from industrial OP Bhakmut https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/419667/1DBF4C26-4517-4EBE-851A-253007D31621_jpe-2648271.JPG Bumping, wife said we’re just over 1/2 way on the radios. And for a salute to the fallen 🫡  Attached File |
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