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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:24:56 PM EST
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:24:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Guess Ukraine has some workable airfields left ;) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMexBNpXMAIdcYj?format=jpg&name=large The MiG-29 only needs a long enough straight to take off from. Has FOD doors that block off the intakes until after take off which they will open and allow for normal intake flow. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:24:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Guess Ukraine has some workable airfields left ;) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMexBNpXMAIdcYj?format=jpg&name=large Looks like they landed that sucker in a culdesac. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:25:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtintwo: No, he isn’t over exaggerating the import of air dominance. If we had decided to enforce a no fly zone then Russia would have had zero chance at success. The complication is that Russia may have countered with canned sunshine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtintwo: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By 74HC: "In November 2008, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated that the F-22 was not relevant in post-Cold War conflicts..." This was Obama's guy, and stupid like his boss. If the US had procured near the original target amount, or to the first reduced amount of around 650 or so, the air force could easily establish a no fly zone over Ukraine airspace. This invasion would have been stopped before it started. Gates was awesome. The F-22 was his major mistake. You greatly over exaggerate the important of airpower. No, he isn’t over exaggerating the import of air dominance. If we had decided to enforce a no fly zone then Russia would have had zero chance at success. The complication is that Russia may have countered with canned sunshine. He’s absolutely overstating it and now you are too. Airpower is a useful tool. Easily half as important as artillery. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:25:26 PM EST
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:25:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pred: Has anyone figured out if this was recent or old footage? I've seen it talked about on different twitter OSINT accounts, and nobody can prove nor disprove it's old footage. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:25:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cav-Gunner: What's the pistol? |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:26:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Intune69: Excellent new Icon. (Pic) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Intune69: Originally Posted By Jackal-FnM: Originally Posted By JSteensen: That's what I mean. Its not a trash incinerator. Its a crematorium.  Well Putin looks at them as throw away so... Excellent new Icon. (Pic) @Intune69 You mean my avatar? |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:26:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Durka-Durka: They won't wreck the place. No way Russia will be able to go total war on Kyiv and not 1) get bogged down into a huge guerilla fight, and 2) suffer dead women/children on every world news station in 4k I wouldn't take that bet. But I think they would much prefer the former to the later. But it's interesting how they have gone away from the old Soviet doctrine of attacking with overwhelming force. Basically, in the old days they believed that they could just shock the populace out of resisting by just coming at them so heavily. "Shock and Awe" isn't a new concept by any means. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:27:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
vid Really seems like an ammo dump going up to me... |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:27:48 PM EST
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Pooti-Poot would like to save the strip-bars and bio-labs.
But he'll settle for the MOTHER FUCKING LAND-MASS if the whores and scientists don't want to stick around and suck his dick. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:27:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Photographic: If reports are to be believed, the stupid fuckers are already running out of fuel and they’re still “20 miles from the capitol” They’re having to raid to local 7/11 for diesel and food I like your style though. Close the door behind them and cut off the supply lines. Trap them between major city defenses and blocks. “Now you’s can’t leave” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Photographic: Originally Posted By planemaker: Wonder what would happen if right as the rooskies get within shouting distance of the capital, all of a sudden there's a surprise counterattack that surrounds them. NATO's supplied weaponry cuts off the supply lines to the rooskies, terminates their advance, and now they're all hanging out there with nowhere to go. Can't move forward, can't retreat. Surrender is their only option. That would really frost Putin, wouldn't it? Thinking the Ukranians have been all but defeated only to get surprised and have his ass handed to him. It would be a great way of making Russia permanently lower tier. Probably unlikely but I do have to wonder where all that stuff that's been trucked in from Poland has gone to. If reports are to be believed, the stupid fuckers are already running out of fuel and they’re still “20 miles from the capitol” They’re having to raid to local 7/11 for diesel and food I like your style though. Close the door behind them and cut off the supply lines. Trap them between major city defenses and blocks. “Now you’s can’t leave” Exactly. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:28:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: I wouldn't take that bet. But I think they would much prefer the former to the later. But it's interesting how they have gone away from the old Soviet doctrine of attacking with overwhelming force. Basically, in the old days they believed that they could just shock the populace out of resisting by just coming at them so heavily. "Shock and Awe" isn't a new concept by any means. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: Originally Posted By Durka-Durka: They won't wreck the place. No way Russia will be able to go total war on Kyiv and not 1) get bogged down into a huge guerilla fight, and 2) suffer dead women/children on every world news station in 4k I wouldn't take that bet. But I think they would much prefer the former to the later. But it's interesting how they have gone away from the old Soviet doctrine of attacking with overwhelming force. Basically, in the old days they believed that they could just shock the populace out of resisting by just coming at them so heavily. "Shock and Awe" isn't a new concept by any means. They've gone away from that for now. They will recalibrate. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:28:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By n2oiroc: they arrested phil collins from trailer park boys?   Attached File |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:28:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JT_26: A group of Ukrainian border guards were stationed on Snake Island, in the Black Sea south of Odessa, when a Russian warship ordered them to surrender under threat of attack. Their response: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself." They held their ground. All 13 were killed. That's so page 200. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:28:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: Hell of a way to die, in a crashed aircraft rather than in battle. Good for Ukraine. As a soldier, assholes like you celebrating death like this sound just like those Muslim pricks I've been fighting for the last 19 years. I'm in one of those shitholes now. Africa. Where just the other day 30+ soldiers were found dead with their own cocks stuffed in their mouths with chew marks. They'd been tortured into eating themselves before being killed. By Muslim terrorists. A fair amount of you sound just like these animals that did this. Wishing it on the Russians. They sure as shit aren't the good guys. But by your talk, you sound like the same people I have a deeper hatred for than most of you could understand. I'm all for fighting Russia. Hell, I know I'd probably die along with all your precious babies in the process in the event of a full out war. I'll kill those bastards all day long. But you guys make me sick with your talk of torture and wishes of horrible deaths on guys who have little desire to die fighting people they identify with more than I ever did with Muslims in the Middle East. The Germans did horrible things 75 years ago. The Japanese did. The Russians sure as hell did as too. This is a new era. Putin is a sick fuck. Doesn't mean soldiers, even these Russians, enjoy dying for bullshit. I've killed before. I'll do it again. But I'll damn sure do it dispassionately, efficiently, and not emotionally. I wonder why these days I ever fought at all for this country. I'd prefer to identify with mercs who fight for money and their brothers than anything else. Thats pure. There is no lie about your cause. Righteous or not. Ok killer, you def seem pretty emotional now. Maybe you aren’t cut out for the merc life 😉 |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:28:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By binthere: Hell of a way to die, in a crashed aircraft rather than in battle. Good for Ukraine. As a soldier, assholes like you celebrating death like this sound just like those Muslim pricks I've been fighting for the last 19 years. I'm in one of those shitholes now. Africa. Where just the other day 30+ soldiers were found dead with their own cocks stuffed in their mouths with chew marks. They'd been tortured into eating themselves before being killed. By Muslim terrorists. A fair amount of you sound just like these animals that did this. Wishing it on the Russians. They sure as shit aren't the good guys. But by your talk, you sound like the same people I have a deeper hatred for than most of you could understand. I'm all for fighting Russia. Hell, I know I'd probably die along with all your precious babies in the process in the event of a full out war. I'll kill those bastards all day long. But you guys make me sick with your talk of torture and wishes of horrible deaths on guys who have little desire to die fighting people they identify with more than I ever did with Muslims in the Middle East. The Germans did horrible things 75 years ago. The Japanese did. The Russians sure as hell did as too. This is a new era. Putin is a sick fuck. Doesn't mean soldiers, even these Russians, enjoy dying for bullshit. I've killed before. I'll do it again. But I'll damn sure do it dispassionately, efficiently, and not emotionally. I wonder why these days I ever fought at all for this country. I'd prefer to identify with mercs who fight for money and their brothers than anything else. Thats pure. There is no lie about your cause. Righteous or not. Lol fucking sheep dog over here. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:29:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey: Thank you. There are a lot of twisted people here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey: Originally Posted By binthere: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Good,hope everyone of those fuckers slowly suffered and are enjoying hell right now Hell of a way to die, in a crashed aircraft rather than in battle. Good for Ukraine. As a soldier, assholes like you celebrating death like this sound just like those Muslim pricks I've been fighting for the last 19 years. I'm in one of those shitholes now. Africa. Where just the other day 30+ soldiers were found dead with their own cocks stuffed in their mouths with chew marks. They'd been tortured into eating themselves before being killed. By Muslim terrorists. A fair amount of you sound just like these animals that did this. Wishing it on the Russians. They sure as shit aren't the good guys. But by your talk, you sound like the same people I have a deeper hatred for than most of you could understand. I'm all for fighting Russia. Hell, I know I'd probably die along with all your precious babies in the process in the event of a full out war. I'll kill those bastards all day long. But you guys make me sick with your talk of torture and wishes of horrible deaths on guys who have little desire to die fighting people they identify with more than I ever did with Muslims in the Middle East. The Germans did horrible things 75 years ago. The Japanese did. The Russians sure as hell did as too. This is a new era. Putin is a sick fuck. Doesn't mean soldiers, even these Russians, enjoy dying for bullshit. I've killed before. I'll do it again. But I'll damn sure do it dispassionately, efficiently, and not emotionally. I wonder why these days I ever fought at all for this country. I'd prefer to identify with mercs who fight for money and their brothers than anything else. Thats pure. There is no lie about your cause. Righteous or not. Thank you. There are a lot of twisted people here. If anything, I feel sadness at the waste of it all. For Ukraine, Europe. Hell, even the Russian soldiers being tossed away by Putin's twisted worldview. But, as noted, people get off around here over death of people they don't like. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:29:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093:
I read Latvia has already invoked Article 4, and have moved to Article 5 now because of cyber attacks? I've been trying to see their ex-president's speech about Ukraine all day, but it won't come up. Maybe facebook sucks, but I doubt it. You know, I've been wondering when states start declaring cyber attacks acts of war. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:29:49 PM EST
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:29:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtintwo: No, he isn’t over exaggerating the import of air dominance. If we had decided to enforce a no fly zone then Russia would have had zero chance at success. The complication is that Russia may have countered with canned sunshine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtintwo: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By 74HC: "In November 2008, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated that the F-22 was not relevant in post-Cold War conflicts..." This was Obama's guy, and stupid like his boss. If the US had procured near the original target amount, or to the first reduced amount of around 650 or so, the air force could easily establish a no fly zone over Ukraine airspace. This invasion would have been stopped before it started. Gates was awesome. The F-22 was his major mistake. You greatly over exaggerate the important of airpower. No, he isn’t over exaggerating the import of air dominance. If we had decided to enforce a no fly zone then Russia would have had zero chance at success. The complication is that Russia may have countered with canned sunshine. They won't pop nukes. They have Moscow, and even St. Petersburg isn't all that hot. A limited exchange puts them back to 'Asian barbarian' stage. Hell, Finland will take half the country, and China the other half. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:30:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv:  It was stupid when they criticized W. It was stupid when they criticized BHO. It was stupid when they criticized DJT. And it's stupid to criticize former VP Biden for not spending every waking hour in the whitehouse. A US president (sans dementia) is ALWAYS in contact. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By 4thbreak: Biden takes a vacation.
It was stupid when they criticized W. It was stupid when they criticized BHO. It was stupid when they criticized DJT. And it's stupid to criticize former VP Biden for not spending every waking hour in the whitehouse. A US president (sans dementia) is ALWAYS in contact. They criticized Carter because he said he wasn't leaving the white house to campaign during the IHC. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:30:49 PM EST
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I heard. Russian paratrooper plane was shot down.
Anyone confirm? |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:31:06 PM EST
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At around midnight, two enemy targets, a helicopter and a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Russian occupation forces, were shot down by the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the area of the Joint Forces operation. Glory to the Ukrainian anti-aircraft guns! |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:31:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DocBach: skip to about 18 min for the swimsuit scene Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DocBach: Originally Posted By crownvic96: Did they send in the female battalion yet?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZryOOCM3hIskip to about 18 min for the swimsuit scene Which is the only part I can take seriously.
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:31:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Durka-Durka: I read Latvia has already invoked Article 4, and have moved to Article 5 now because of cyber attacks? I've been trying to see their ex-president's speech about Ukraine all day, but it won't come up. Maybe facebook sucks, but I doubt it. You know, I've been wondering when states start declaring cyber attacks acts of war. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Durka-Durka: Originally Posted By ludder093:
I read Latvia has already invoked Article 4, and have moved to Article 5 now because of cyber attacks? I've been trying to see their ex-president's speech about Ukraine all day, but it won't come up. Maybe facebook sucks, but I doubt it. You know, I've been wondering when states start declaring cyber attacks acts of war. If true, major game changer. Pudding Pop will need more depends. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:31:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/26/01/54672909-10553451-image-a-60_1645837882551.jpg https://www.google.com/maps/@50.4570338,30.5319896,12.25z/data= |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:31:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: NATO leader says Belarus will pay price for being 'enabler' in Russia invasion of Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx5P8vFb-pYWhat a fag. Belarus didn't enable shit they just helped big bro out. They'll get fucked bc they are the little guy. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:32:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sharky30: I have no plans to download it but someone should turn it into a torrent. Harder to block it if hundreds are hosting it |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:32:48 PM EST
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:33:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: Not good...
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:33:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: Stutzmech]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pred: Has anyone figured out if this was recent or old footage?  ETA, some say the z's are photoshopped |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:33:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50: What a fag. Belarus didn't enable shit they just helped big bro out. They'll get fucked bc they are the little guy. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:33:23 PM EST
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Lots of fighting. Turn up sound
 LIVE: View of Kyiv as Russia launches major Ukraine invasion | DW News |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:33:48 PM EST
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🇷🇺🇺🇦⚡️Reports about a Russian paratrooper landing in the south of Kiev.
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:34:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: They won't pop nukes. They have Moscow, and even St. Petersburg isn't all that hot. A limited exchange puts them back to 'Asian barbarian' stage. Hell, Finland will take half the country, and China the other half. Has anyone ever called Putin's bluff? More to the point, has he ever bluffed? |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:34:05 PM EST
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ITV News witnesses fighting between Ukrainian and Russian troops closing in on Kyiv
 ITV News witnesses fighting between Ukrainian and Russian troops closing in on Kyiv | ITV News |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:34:08 PM EST
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Who has the best feed right now. I don’t want the one with 6 cameras and no fighting.
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:34:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: This. If anything, I feel sadness at the waste of it all. For Ukraine, Europe. Hell, even the Russian soldiers being tossed away by Putin's twisted worldview. But, as noted, people get off around here over death of people they don't like. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TylerF: Originally Posted By MadMonkey: Originally Posted By binthere: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Good,hope everyone of those fuckers slowly suffered and are enjoying hell right now Hell of a way to die, in a crashed aircraft rather than in battle. Good for Ukraine. As a soldier, assholes like you celebrating death like this sound just like those Muslim pricks I've been fighting for the last 19 years. I'm in one of those shitholes now. Africa. Where just the other day 30+ soldiers were found dead with their own cocks stuffed in their mouths with chew marks. They'd been tortured into eating themselves before being killed. By Muslim terrorists. A fair amount of you sound just like these animals that did this. Wishing it on the Russians. They sure as shit aren't the good guys. But by your talk, you sound like the same people I have a deeper hatred for than most of you could understand. I'm all for fighting Russia. Hell, I know I'd probably die along with all your precious babies in the process in the event of a full out war. I'll kill those bastards all day long. But you guys make me sick with your talk of torture and wishes of horrible deaths on guys who have little desire to die fighting people they identify with more than I ever did with Muslims in the Middle East. The Germans did horrible things 75 years ago. The Japanese did. The Russians sure as hell did as too. This is a new era. Putin is a sick fuck. Doesn't mean soldiers, even these Russians, enjoy dying for bullshit. I've killed before. I'll do it again. But I'll damn sure do it dispassionately, efficiently, and not emotionally. I wonder why these days I ever fought at all for this country. I'd prefer to identify with mercs who fight for money and their brothers than anything else. Thats pure. There is no lie about your cause. Righteous or not. Thank you. There are a lot of twisted people here. If anything, I feel sadness at the waste of it all. For Ukraine, Europe. Hell, even the Russian soldiers being tossed away by Putin's twisted worldview. But, as noted, people get off around here over death of people they don't like. Yup |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:35:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: They've gone away from that for now. They will recalibrate Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: Originally Posted By Waldo: Originally Posted By Durka-Durka: They won't wreck the place. No way Russia will be able to go total war on Kyiv and not 1) get bogged down into a huge guerilla fight, and 2) suffer dead women/children on every world news station in 4k I wouldn't take that bet. But I think they would much prefer the former to the later. But it's interesting how they have gone away from the old Soviet doctrine of attacking with overwhelming force. Basically, in the old days they believed that they could just shock the populace out of resisting by just coming at them so heavily. "Shock and Awe" isn't a new concept by any means. They've gone away from that for now. They will recalibrate |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:35:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By john575: I heard. Russian paratrooper plane was shot down. Anyone confirm? Yep, 150 Russian paratroopers. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:35:33 PM EST
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:35:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50: What a fag. Belarus didn't enable shit they just helped big bro out. They'll get fucked bc they are the little guy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50: Originally Posted By realwar: NATO leader says Belarus will pay price for being 'enabler' in Russia invasion of Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx5P8vFb-pYWhat a fag. Belarus didn't enable shit they just helped big bro out. They'll get fucked bc they are the little guy. They get what they fucking deserve. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:35:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50: What a fag. Belarus didn't enable shit they just helped big bro out. They'll get fucked bc they are the little guy. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:35:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Yup Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By TylerF: Originally Posted By MadMonkey: Originally Posted By binthere: Originally Posted By FlyLeaf: Good,hope everyone of those fuckers slowly suffered and are enjoying hell right now Hell of a way to die, in a crashed aircraft rather than in battle. Good for Ukraine. As a soldier, assholes like you celebrating death like this sound just like those Muslim pricks I've been fighting for the last 19 years. I'm in one of those shitholes now. Africa. Where just the other day 30+ soldiers were found dead with their own cocks stuffed in their mouths with chew marks. They'd been tortured into eating themselves before being killed. By Muslim terrorists. A fair amount of you sound just like these animals that did this. Wishing it on the Russians. They sure as shit aren't the good guys. But by your talk, you sound like the same people I have a deeper hatred for than most of you could understand. I'm all for fighting Russia. Hell, I know I'd probably die along with all your precious babies in the process in the event of a full out war. I'll kill those bastards all day long. But you guys make me sick with your talk of torture and wishes of horrible deaths on guys who have little desire to die fighting people they identify with more than I ever did with Muslims in the Middle East. The Germans did horrible things 75 years ago. The Japanese did. The Russians sure as hell did as too. This is a new era. Putin is a sick fuck. Doesn't mean soldiers, even these Russians, enjoy dying for bullshit. I've killed before. I'll do it again. But I'll damn sure do it dispassionately, efficiently, and not emotionally. I wonder why these days I ever fought at all for this country. I'd prefer to identify with mercs who fight for money and their brothers than anything else. Thats pure. There is no lie about your cause. Righteous or not. Thank you. There are a lot of twisted people here. If anything, I feel sadness at the waste of it all. For Ukraine, Europe. Hell, even the Russian soldiers being tossed away by Putin's twisted worldview. But, as noted, people get off around here over death of people they don't like. Yup I feel pity for the average soldier involved in this fucking mess. These aren't hardcore jihadis. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:36:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cash50: What a fag. Belarus didn't enable shit they just helped big bro out. They'll get fucked bc they are the little guy. It's Dr Evil (Russia) and MiniMe (Belarus) |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:36:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrGoodkat: Did you say "Japanese torpedo boat"? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Zinovi_Petrovich_Rozhestvenski.jpg |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:36:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtintwo: No, he isn’t over exaggerating the import of air dominance. If we had decided to enforce a no fly zone then Russia would have had zero chance at success. The complication is that Russia may have countered with canned sunshine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtintwo: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By 74HC: "In November 2008, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated that the F-22 was not relevant in post-Cold War conflicts..." This was Obama's guy, and stupid like his boss. If the US had procured near the original target amount, or to the first reduced amount of around 650 or so, the air force could easily establish a no fly zone over Ukraine airspace. This invasion would have been stopped before it started. Gates was awesome. The F-22 was his major mistake. You greatly over exaggerate the important of airpower. No, he isn’t over exaggerating the import of air dominance. If we had decided to enforce a no fly zone then Russia would have had zero chance at success. The complication is that Russia may have countered with canned sunshine. Not a chance. He likes being the head of what he thinks is a world superpower. Unleashing that would immediately make him nothing, assuming he even survived. We should have enforced a no-fly zone and told Russia if they don't like that, all of those 200k troops and armor would be next. And, there's not a damn thing he could do about it. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:37:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By john575: I heard. Russian paratrooper plane was shot down. Anyone confirm? Ukrainian government says it happened. That's about as good as we are going to get as far as confirmation. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 8:37:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThis photo was posted earlier last night, but it didn't have the "Z". So photochopped. |
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