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Link Posted: 1/28/2023 1:24:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


New cosmonaut programm?
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He probably thought he was going to heaven… until the apogee.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 1:27:34 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2023 1:28:19 PM EST
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A MILITARY BASE IN SOUTHEASTERN POLAND (AP) — On the front lines in Ukraine, a soldier was having trouble firing his 155 mm howitzer gun. So, he turned to a team of Americans on the other end of his phone line for help.

“What do I do?” he asked the U.S. military team member, far away at a base in southeastern Poland. “What are my options?”

Using phones and tablets to communicate in encrypted chatrooms, a rapidly growing group of U.S. and allied troops and contractors is providing real-time maintenance advice — usually speaking through interpreters — to Ukrainian troops on the battlefield.

In a quick response, the U.S. team member told the Ukrainian to remove the gun’s breech at the rear of the howitzer and manually prime the firing pin so the gun could fire. He did it and it worked.

The exchange is part of an expanding U.S. military help line aimed at providing repair advice to Ukrainian forces in the heat of battle.

More.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fix-howitzer-us-offers-help-053828564.html
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Imagine outsourcing that to India.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 1:30:01 PM EST
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Perfect doggie for orc eating
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 1:49:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Jack67:


Whoa - it’s actually worse than that. Just googled that car and found this:

https://www.motor1.com/news/593367/2022-lada-granta-no-airbags-abs/



This was because of sanctions, the article said - the car had them before.
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Whoa - it’s actually worse than that. Just googled that car and found this:

https://www.motor1.com/news/593367/2022-lada-granta-no-airbags-abs/

The 2022 Lada Granta Classic lacks crucial safety features we've been taking for granted in the last several decades. According to Automotive News, the small sedan is being built without anti-lock brakes and airbags. In addition, it's also missing an electronic stability control system and seat belt pretensioners.


This was because of sanctions, the article said - the car had them before.

Make carburetors great again! Maybe Russia is inadvertently making an emp robust vehicle

Part of me wants a dumb car. You all know what it costs to get the dummy lights to turn off these days!
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 1:57:00 PM EST
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Imagine outsourcing that to India.
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y'know what Western warfighters like more than anything else? Fucking shit up.

2nd best is helping fighting comrades fuck shit up.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 1:57:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Easterner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSW0HHF2amA

Russian propaganda in Latvia. There's a little clip of Russian news showing how they could invade the Baltics.
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I have a feeling there are nato assets that have targeting information waiting for just such an occasion. Lots of them.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:04:56 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:14:42 PM EST
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I wonder what the barrel life is on a weapon with that fire rate...
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:15:29 PM EST
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The mag looks weird, its not a 5.45 AR, is it?
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No it does not look to be.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:16:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Interesting AR on the left.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnfAwQBXoAI4CME?format=jpg&name=medium


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It looks like the guy in the center has a captured AK-12.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:16:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:


Barrel and muzzle device look like .50 Beowulf or something.

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That is what I am thinking. >50, .458 yeah those type of rounds.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:19:16 PM EST
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A good listen. The video isn't important as the audio so it does well for background listening.


The Gonzalo Lira Roundtable - My thoughts

Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:20:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
That is what I am thinking. >50, .458 yeah those type of rounds.
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Originally Posted By Prime:


Barrel and muzzle device look like .50 Beowulf or something.

That is what I am thinking. >50, .458 yeah those type of rounds.
I hope he is being a good boy and using only solids/FMJ.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:20:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sq40:


He probably thought he was going to heaven… until the apogee.
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Originally Posted By sq40:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


New cosmonaut programm?


He probably thought he was going to heaven… until the apogee.


Yeah, but did he stick the landing?
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:41:39 PM EST
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"'AZOV fighters enter Russians' trenches - weapons and ammunition captured"
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"Azov" fighters enter Russians’ trenches - weapons and ammunition captured
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 2:53:43 PM EST
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"Adm. Stavridis: 'Putin owns this problem'"
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Adm. Stavridis: “Putin owns this problem”
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:03:08 PM EST
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Good ole Starsky having fun making a sarcastic video about "aircraft kits" (downed Russian planes, in pieces) Russia sends to Ukraine.



Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:09:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By The_Gooch:
It looks like the guy in the center has a captured AK-12.
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Originally Posted By The_Gooch:
Originally Posted By Prime:
Interesting AR on the left.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnfAwQBXoAI4CME?format=jpg&name=medium


It looks like the guy in the center has a captured AK-12.


Regular 74 with an AR adapter and stock, AK-12 mag, and a funky handguard/wrap.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:12:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Erno86:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKA053Oy5uE
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Originally Posted By Erno86:
"Adm. Stavridis: 'Putin owns this problem'"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKA053Oy5uE


It's great to see MSM communicating this. It's 100% correct. "Just in time" supply chain is what we're doing now.

Btw nice quotes in your signature!
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:13:04 PM EST
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"Inside the Leopard 1A5 - Tank gunner loading"
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Inside the Leopard 1A5 - Tank Gunnery Loading
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:19:18 PM EST
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"'Putin's tanks engulfed in flames' - Column of attacking Russian tanks hit by artillery fire"
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"Putin's tanks engulfed in flames" - column of attacking Russian tanks hit by artillery fire
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:19:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Circuits:

Nothing says "World Superpower" like building your domestic cars with 1960s and earlier analog technology.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Nothing says "World Superpower" like building your domestic cars with 1960s and earlier analog technology.


Short history of the Soviet/Russian Auto Industry:

1920's:  Invite Ford and other manufacturers in to build factories.  Kick them out.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1940's:  Import trucks and tooling from the West and proceed to copy.  Seize entire factories from Germany, along with auto engineers.  Build cars incorporating the latest German, British and US tech.  Work the engineers to death or release them back to Germany when they are of no further use.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" based on foreign designs.
1960's:  Buy entire turn-key auto plants from the French and Italians.  Refuse to upgrade and, over time, incorporate truck and tractor components to deal with "Russian Roads" instead of investing in macadam and asphalt.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1980's:  Bring in Foreign (Western and Japanese) experts to modernize the automotive sectors.  Buy and import (legally and illicitly) the most modern machinery practicable.  Design innovative automobiles well within the capability of the Soviet Automotive industry to build in large numbers.  Build few if any of the "new" designs and instead churn out even lower-quality versions of the "Monkey-models" based on 1960's/early 1970's western models but add square headlights and a few 1960's-era Volkswagen-type "creature-comforts" that just reinforce how outdated the basic design actually is.
2000's:  Invite foreign manufactures to partially or completely take over portions of the industry.  Russian auto industry becomes state-of the-art.  Begin to punish the foreigners through corruption and tax policy for the crime of employing Russians, selling cars that Russians want, and making a profit doing so. Production of auto components starts to ramp down in Russia, as companies seek to reduce their vulnerability to corruption, non-transparent taxation, increasing government hostility/indifference, sanctions, and deteriorating Russian relations with the West.  In 2022 Ukraine II kicks off, Foreign companies give up and pull the plug. so the Russians step up to the plate with low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.  

What we in most of the rest of the world see as "Failure", the Russians see as "Tradition"!
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:19:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By fike:


Regular 74 with an AR adapter and stock, AK-12 mag, and a funky handguard/wrap.
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Originally Posted By The_Gooch:
Originally Posted By Prime:
Interesting AR on the left.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnfAwQBXoAI4CME?format=jpg&name=medium


It looks like the guy in the center has a captured AK-12.


Regular 74 with an AR adapter and stock, AK-12 mag, and a funky handguard/wrap.
Thats basically what an AK-12 is for the most part.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:25:00 PM EST
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Wagner has said this before, and it may the result be disinformation.

According to our information, Leopards are already in Ukraine. Two tractors with Leo were seen in the Nikolaev area! Thank you patriots for warning us!
https://t.me/rsotmdivision/4368

Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:25:00 PM EST
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Super stupid question for those that know: I was kinda surprised to see such smoke from the machine gun in the crew compartment.

- Is this done on purpose, to not outgas immediately outside the vehicle? (like minimizing stuff that can give you away, or obscure optics? -obviously the maingun is intended for different, more distant targets but MG targets are closer and this little bit of smoke could mean something..maybe? )

- I imagine western tanks have some beefy hepa filtering going on for the crew?
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:29:21 PM EST
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Visions of St Michael in the uniform of a US Army CW5 walking among the carcasses in the storage yard with a wrench in one hand and a multimeter in the other raising them from the Deadline!
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:32:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Wagner has said this before, and it may the result be disinformation.

According to our information, Leopards are already in Ukraine. Two tractors with Leo were seen in the Nikolaev area! Thank you patriots for warning us!
https://t.me/rsotmdivision/4368

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LOL. Very seriously doubt. But it is funny seeing Russians on edge and high alert over the Leopard 2 just like the old Tiger 1 we're making them shit their pants in WW2.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:58:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2023 3:59:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:


Super stupid question for those that know: I was kinda surprised to see such smoke from the machine gun in the crew compartment.

- Is this done on purpose, to not outgas immediately outside the vehicle? (like minimizing stuff that can give you away, or obscure optics? -obviously the maingun is intended for different, more distant targets but MG targets are closer and this little bit of smoke could mean something..maybe? )

- I imagine western tanks have some beefy hepa filtering going on for the crew?
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Originally Posted By Erno86:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovO9MwX5LlU


Super stupid question for those that know: I was kinda surprised to see such smoke from the machine gun in the crew compartment.

- Is this done on purpose, to not outgas immediately outside the vehicle? (like minimizing stuff that can give you away, or obscure optics? -obviously the maingun is intended for different, more distant targets but MG targets are closer and this little bit of smoke could mean something..maybe? )

- I imagine western tanks have some beefy hepa filtering going on for the crew?


Hatch was open and I think that’s the top gun and not Coax correct? Just happened to blow down & im.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:00:46 PM EST
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Azov Regiment has been renamed 3rd Assault Brigade by Army Headquarters. I guess they were sick of the Azov 'reputation'.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:05:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Easterner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSW0HHF2amA

Russian propaganda in Latvia. There's a little clip of Russian news showing how they could invade the Baltics.
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As little military as the Baltics have, that invasion scenario could still potentially be rolled out by Russia. It would be colossally stupid by Russia, but they could probably do it. Why does Putin seek to provoke others?
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:13:00 PM EST
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Azov Regiment has been renamed 3rd Assault Brigade by Army Headquarters. I guess they were sick of the Azov 'reputation'.
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Originally Posted By Erno86:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnzIG-trO80
Azov Regiment has been renamed 3rd Assault Brigade by Army Headquarters. I guess they were sick of the Azov 'reputation'.


I think it's more of an extension. The 3rd Separate Assault Brigade Azov is a new brigade formed in November of 2022.

Shoulder sleeve insignia:
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As far as their reputation, they are heroes here. No one is "sick of them" except maybe Russia.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:16:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Easterner:


I think it's more of an extension. The 3rd Separate Assault Brigade Azov is a new brigade formed in November of 2022.

Shoulder sleeve insignia:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/3rd_Assault_Brigade_png-2688850.JPG

As far as their reputation, they are heroes here. No one is "sick of them" except maybe Russia.
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Awesome. That's great to hear.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:20:48 PM EST
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Awesome. That's great to hear.
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Originally Posted By Schmigs:
Originally Posted By Easterner:


I think it's more of an extension. The 3rd Separate Assault Brigade Azov is a new brigade formed in November of 2022.

Shoulder sleeve insignia:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/3rd_Assault_Brigade_png-2688850.JPG

As far as their reputation, they are heroes here. No one is "sick of them" except maybe Russia.
Awesome. That's great to hear.


We actually have billboards in town dedicated to them. I'll snap a picture next time i pass one.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:21:52 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:24:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:29:44 PM EST
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Lol. He ain’t a “meh Russia!!”….

He’s just an idiot.
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Originally Posted By sq40:
More bullshittith speweth forward.

Now “Biden is FORCING Russia to threaten nuclear war”.  I guess Orange Man really did work for Putin after all.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1619043904405540864?s=46&t=mZCNT-Srn-NVFqrCXb0JiA

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/BBA1142C-141E-46EB-882E-6C41C7CB2ACF_jpe-2688310.JPG


Lol. He ain’t a “meh Russia!!”….

He’s just an idiot.


I voted for Trump twice.

We all need to be done with him now.

Would love to hear DeSantis’ position on Ukraine and support.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:36:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


Short history of the Soviet/Russian Auto Industry:

1920's:  Invite Ford and other manufacturers in to build factories.  Kick them out.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1940's:  Import trucks and tooling from the West and proceed to copy.  Seize entire factories from Germany, along with auto engineers.  Build cars incorporating the latest German, British and US tech.  Work the engineers to death or release them back to Germany when they are of no further use.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" based on foreign designs.
1960's:  Buy entire turn-key auto plants from the French and Italians.  Refuse to upgrade and, over time, incorporate truck and tractor components to deal with "Russian Roads" instead of investing in macadam and asphalt.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1980's:  Bring in Foreign (Western and Japanese) experts to modernize the automotive sectors.  Buy and import (legally and illicitly) the most modern machinery practicable.  Design innovative automobiles well within the capability of the Soviet Automotive industry to build in large numbers.  Build few if any of the "new" designs and instead churn out even lower-quality versions of the "Monkey-models" based on 1960's/early 1970's western models but add square headlights and a few 1960's-era Volkswagen-type "creature-comforts" that just reinforce how outdated the basic design actually is.
2000's:  Invite foreign manufactures to partially or completely take over portions of the industry.  Russian auto industry becomes state-of the-art.  Begin to punish the foreigners through corruption and tax policy for the crime of employing Russians, selling cars that Russians want, and making a profit doing so. Production of auto components starts to ramp down in Russia, as companies seek to reduce their vulnerability to corruption, non-transparent taxation, increasing government hostility/indifference, sanctions, and deteriorating Russian relations with the West.  In 2022 Ukraine II kicks off, Foreign companies give up and pull the plug. so the Russians step up to the plate with low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.  

What we in most of the rest of the world see as "Failure", the Russians see as "Tradition"!
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By Circuits:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Nothing says "World Superpower" like building your domestic cars with 1960s and earlier analog technology.


Short history of the Soviet/Russian Auto Industry:

1920's:  Invite Ford and other manufacturers in to build factories.  Kick them out.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1940's:  Import trucks and tooling from the West and proceed to copy.  Seize entire factories from Germany, along with auto engineers.  Build cars incorporating the latest German, British and US tech.  Work the engineers to death or release them back to Germany when they are of no further use.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" based on foreign designs.
1960's:  Buy entire turn-key auto plants from the French and Italians.  Refuse to upgrade and, over time, incorporate truck and tractor components to deal with "Russian Roads" instead of investing in macadam and asphalt.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1980's:  Bring in Foreign (Western and Japanese) experts to modernize the automotive sectors.  Buy and import (legally and illicitly) the most modern machinery practicable.  Design innovative automobiles well within the capability of the Soviet Automotive industry to build in large numbers.  Build few if any of the "new" designs and instead churn out even lower-quality versions of the "Monkey-models" based on 1960's/early 1970's western models but add square headlights and a few 1960's-era Volkswagen-type "creature-comforts" that just reinforce how outdated the basic design actually is.
2000's:  Invite foreign manufactures to partially or completely take over portions of the industry.  Russian auto industry becomes state-of the-art.  Begin to punish the foreigners through corruption and tax policy for the crime of employing Russians, selling cars that Russians want, and making a profit doing so. Production of auto components starts to ramp down in Russia, as companies seek to reduce their vulnerability to corruption, non-transparent taxation, increasing government hostility/indifference, sanctions, and deteriorating Russian relations with the West.  In 2022 Ukraine II kicks off, Foreign companies give up and pull the plug. so the Russians step up to the plate with low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.  

What we in most of the rest of the world see as "Failure", the Russians see as "Tradition"!

Wonder what options the 2024 monkey model will have
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:41:25 PM EST
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Hatch was open and I think that’s the top gun and not Coax correct? Just happened to blow down & im.
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
Originally Posted By Erno86:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovO9MwX5LlU


Super stupid question for those that know: I was kinda surprised to see such smoke from the machine gun in the crew compartment.

- Is this done on purpose, to not outgas immediately outside the vehicle? (like minimizing stuff that can give you away, or obscure optics? -obviously the maingun is intended for different, more distant targets but MG targets are closer and this little bit of smoke could mean something..maybe? )

- I imagine western tanks have some beefy hepa filtering going on for the crew?


Hatch was open and I think that’s the top gun and not Coax correct? Just happened to blow down & im.

It was the coax. It's mounted to the left of the main gun.
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This is the kind of post that makes me love arfcom. Thank you.
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The F-16 is miles ahead of the MiG-29 in terms of BVR capabilities. Ukrainian MiG-29 fighters simply can't compete with Russian Flankers because they only have semi-active R27 radar guided missiles and less capable radars. Think of it as an old AIM-7 Sparrow. The Russians have the R77, which is an active missile that functions more like our AIM-120 AMRAAM. It outranges the R27. And unlike the R27, it doesn't require the firing aircraft to continuously keep the nose (radar) pointed toward the target to illuminate it for the missile. An active missile is a huge advantage, since the shooter can fire and then maneuver to gain better offensive or defensive angles.

Everything from the F-16AM (MLU that puts it into roughly Block 40 category in terms of capabilities) on up are vastly better than any MiG-29 Ukraine possesses or might be able to obtain from Slovakia, Bulgaria or Poland. It has a much better radar allowing it to detect and track targets at greater range. And the AIM-120C is much more competitive against the R77. The AIM-120D out sticks and outclasses the R77. The MiG-29 is at a severe disadvantage against modern Flankers. It really isn't even competitive. It is a sitting duck. But an AMRAAM toting F-16 would be a much more difficult opponent for the Flankers, as some Indian Su-30 drivers found out a few years ago when they encountered some Pakistani F-16s. Though neither side scored any confirmed kills in the engagement, the Pakistani F-16s and their AMRAAM missiles (neither of which are the most current versions) controlled the initiative during the entire engagement and kept the Indian Flankers completely defensive.

The F-16 is also vastly better at attacking ground targets. It can carry and employ pretty much everything in the inventory, which includes lots of precision munitions with stand-off capability. It can carry HARM to take out enemy radars and air defense systems. It can carry Mavericks to take out tanks and armored vehicles. It can carry JDAMs and various laser guided bombs. It can employ the JASSM cruise missile which can strike targets hundreds of miles away. It can carry and release the SDB which can glide many miles to strike its target. There are even wing kits to extend the range of JDAMs. Powered JDAMs are being developed. The Israelis also have the SPICE kits, which turns standard dumb bombs into stand-off, precision attack weapons.

The F-16 will give the Ukrainians the ability to do things in the air to air and air to ground realms that they presently can only dream about. When combined with timely intelligence from nearby friendly NATO elements (satellite, AWACS, P-8, Global Hawk, RC-135, etc.) to help them see the big picture better, it will give Ukraine the decisive edge they need in air combat. And keep in mind that the F-16 is only about the 5th or 6th most capable fighter overall we have presently in service, behind the F-22, F-35, F-15C, F-15E/X and the F-18E/F. I think it says a lot when our 6th best platform can stand toe to toe with and probably be more effective than the very best fighter Russia has in operational service.


This is the kind of post that makes me love arfcom. Thank you.


Yes, QUALITY POST!
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Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 4:50:18 PM EST
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Any attack on the Baltics would invoke NATO's Article V.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSW0HHF2amA

Russian propaganda in Latvia. There's a little clip of Russian news showing how they could invade the Baltics.

As little military as the Baltics have, that invasion scenario could still potentially be rolled out by Russia. It would be colossally stupid by Russia, but they could probably do it. Why does Putin seek to provoke others?

Any attack on the Baltics would invoke NATO's Article V.

Hence why I said it would be colossally stupid.  The thing that makes such a thing even thinkable is the constant, heavy rhetoric in Moscow that "they are already at war with NATO." There is some significant group of people who undoubtedly actually believe that. It was said on a recently posted Russian Media Monitor vid, "why are we fighting NATO only on our land?" Which is also because Ukraine isn't their land. Putin allows rhetoric like that, and it's rampant. They really believe they are fighting against NATO, and they believe they should not be constrained to fight NATO only on their own land. (or at least, some very loud people say those things) It's highly inflammatory and provocative rhetoric.
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

Hence why I said it would be colossally stupid.  The thing that makes such a thing even thinkable is the constant, heavy rhetoric in Moscow that "they are already at war with NATO." There is some significant group of people who undoubtedly actually believe that. It was said on a recently posted Russian Media Monitor vid, "why are we fighting NATO only on our land?" Which is also because Ukraine isn't their land. Putin allows rhetoric like that, and it's rampant. They really believe they are fighting against NATO, and they believe they should not be constrained to fight NATO only on their own land. (or at least, some very loud people say those things) It's highly inflammatory and provocative rhetoric.
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Link Posted: 1/28/2023 5:01:07 PM EST
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WaPo did a nice little piece on Russian POWs held in Ukraine. This is our reserve fund. They even asked the neighbors if they knew what was going on in that place. "Of course we do!"
Link Posted: 1/28/2023 5:03:50 PM EST
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Dude, I'm quote Russian propaganda, not parroting it. I'm concerned about the unbelievable rhetoric their propagandists spew.
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I am wondering what the plan is for Russia right now. They are all in and still can't show any sizable gains. Their meat wasting attacks haven't really paid off. They are obviously down on shells whether they are conserving some for summer or what they aren't shooting as much as they have.

The west on the other hand is not even close to all in. We stepped it up a little with older tanks, some bradleys smart munitions and maybe going to send some f16's at some point. But the veil is off and we can just keep ramping up where needed. Wagner has been pretty much handled as well. Only thing left is to push their shit in once the offensives start. Its obviously not going to be a cake walk and russia doesn't care if they just continually send meat. But right now there has to be some serious conversations happening. These latest attacks that end with multiple apcs and tanks ablaze seem to me their best attempts at trying to make a breakthrough but they are just getting countered badly.

These last weeks of just fields of dead can't be spun easily. They are going to have to make some sort of tactics change. But their options are getting less and less as better air defense stands up. Its going to get increasingly hard for them now.

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Short history of the Soviet/Russian Auto Industry:

1920's:  Invite Ford and other manufacturers in to build factories.  Kick them out.  Put the 100's of Americans who moved to ruSSia to work there into the Gulag and kill them all, accusing them of being spies for the imperialist pigs. Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1940's:  Import trucks and tooling from the West and proceed to copy.  Seize entire factories from Germany, along with auto engineers.  Build cars incorporating the latest German, British and US tech.  Work the engineers to death or release them back to Germany when they are of no further use.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" based on foreign designs.
1960's:  Buy entire turn-key auto plants from the French and Italians.  Refuse to upgrade and, over time, incorporate truck and tractor components to deal with "Russian Roads" instead of investing in macadam and asphalt.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1980's:  Bring in Foreign (Western and Japanese) experts to modernize the automotive sectors.  Buy and import (legally and illicitly) the most modern machinery practicable.  Design innovative automobiles well within the capability of the Soviet Automotive industry to build in large numbers.  Build few if any of the "new" designs and instead churn out even lower-quality versions of the "Monkey-models" based on 1960's/early 1970's western models but add square headlights and a few 1960's-era Volkswagen-type "creature-comforts" that just reinforce how outdated the basic design actually is.
2000's:  Invite foreign manufactures to partially or completely take over portions of the industry.  Russian auto industry becomes state-of the-art.  Begin to punish the foreigners through corruption and tax policy for the crime of employing Russians, selling cars that Russians want, and making a profit doing so. Production of auto components starts to ramp down in Russia, as companies seek to reduce their vulnerability to corruption, non-transparent taxation, increasing government hostility/indifference, sanctions, and deteriorating Russian relations with the West.  In 2022 Ukraine II kicks off, Foreign companies give up and pull the plug. so the Russians step up to the plate with low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.  

What we in most of the rest of the world see as "Failure", the Russians see as "Tradition"!
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Nothing says "World Superpower" like building your domestic cars with 1960s and earlier analog technology.


Short history of the Soviet/Russian Auto Industry:

1920's:  Invite Ford and other manufacturers in to build factories.  Kick them out.  Put the 100's of Americans who moved to ruSSia to work there into the Gulag and kill them all, accusing them of being spies for the imperialist pigs. Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1940's:  Import trucks and tooling from the West and proceed to copy.  Seize entire factories from Germany, along with auto engineers.  Build cars incorporating the latest German, British and US tech.  Work the engineers to death or release them back to Germany when they are of no further use.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" based on foreign designs.
1960's:  Buy entire turn-key auto plants from the French and Italians.  Refuse to upgrade and, over time, incorporate truck and tractor components to deal with "Russian Roads" instead of investing in macadam and asphalt.  Product devolves into low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.
1980's:  Bring in Foreign (Western and Japanese) experts to modernize the automotive sectors.  Buy and import (legally and illicitly) the most modern machinery practicable.  Design innovative automobiles well within the capability of the Soviet Automotive industry to build in large numbers.  Build few if any of the "new" designs and instead churn out even lower-quality versions of the "Monkey-models" based on 1960's/early 1970's western models but add square headlights and a few 1960's-era Volkswagen-type "creature-comforts" that just reinforce how outdated the basic design actually is.
2000's:  Invite foreign manufactures to partially or completely take over portions of the industry.  Russian auto industry becomes state-of the-art.  Begin to punish the foreigners through corruption and tax policy for the crime of employing Russians, selling cars that Russians want, and making a profit doing so. Production of auto components starts to ramp down in Russia, as companies seek to reduce their vulnerability to corruption, non-transparent taxation, increasing government hostility/indifference, sanctions, and deteriorating Russian relations with the West.  In 2022 Ukraine II kicks off, Foreign companies give up and pull the plug. so the Russians step up to the plate with low-quality "Monkey-models" of the original.  

What we in most of the rest of the world see as "Failure", the Russians see as "Tradition"!


FIFY and fuck ruSSia
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