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Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: It's GD, suck it up or leave. The whole point of freedom means you fight to hear shit you don't want to hear. I'm no fan of the Russian view; but let's not weaponize the CoC to run out people who disagree with whatever you think; because that's still a useful source of information. View Quote <This. Did we believe that nobody would eventually post in our threads with the sole reason they wanted to sow division and strife? Any basement dwelling incel can play macho man on a keyboard. The Japanese culture understands and accepts that once a person starts hurling insults, making threats or loses their temper they have already lost the argument. These are the indicators of emotions associated with a lost cause. America is filled with Libertarians, isolationists, socialist (democratic socialists - ha!), communists, leftists, BLM, Antifa, Democrats, Republicans, right wing nut jobs, Russian sympathizers, Ukrainian critics, kneejerk responses, drunks, drug addicts, know-it-alls, retards and a host of other malcontents who will find a reason to be contrarian, for the sake of being contrarian. We have an ignore button available to shut their traps. Consider using it. I am reasonably sure Russian spies are trying to sow as much discord and doubt on every platform they are aware of. They would almost certainly be aware of us! Psyops is a thing, it's cheap and effective sometimes. Everyone has a right to their opinion, nobody has a right to be wrong about facts. Only a handful of posters in this thread are actually fighting in Ukraine or supplying logistical/medical support in their country. After a solid year of full scale war they have earned the right to take a break, be frustrated, or otherwise disengage to protect their emotional well being. Anyone supporting Russia after what has transpired should join the Kadyrov's Chechen forces, I understand they have a unique hazing process for new recruits. Volunteer to lead their charge, God will decide the rest, God and Ukraine's heroes. |
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Originally Posted By Capta: It's a dedicated AT gun, so it would have a telescopic sight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By m35ben: I don't know what happened as I was busy. I do want him to return. He usually only checked in every 3-5 days or so, he's not really off his usual cycle. Tank sniper.
That's a looooooong range shot! If they're using open sights, more like a miracle. It's a dedicated AT gun, so it would have a telescopic sight. There is a radar unit for that gun as well. |
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Originally Posted By Alex9661: Pantsir on the roof of the Ministry of Defense in Moscow. Green against the background of roofing material, asphalt and snow is an interesting choice of camo netting. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234577/net_JPG-2696045.JPG View Quote It's a good choice if it's all for show and not go. |
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Originally Posted By Jack67: Good vid on Nozh. Meant to post it before. In Ukrainian/no sound but images are generally self explanatory. 3min total, good vid cartoon on defeating KE as well as lefp about 1:00 ish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMxww3v6tE View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By fadedsun: Those leopards will be slathered in nozh and k1 within a day. They will be fine, better armor than some of the vehicles there and a good gun. Glass cannon still. Good vid on Nozh. Meant to post it before. In Ukrainian/no sound but images are generally self explanatory. 3min total, good vid cartoon on defeating KE as well as lefp about 1:00 ish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMxww3v6tE This is a great illustration. If we don't supply the Urban Survival kits for our Western tanks, it would be cool to add stuff like this to them for added survivability. Especially if the Ukrainians are getting the Export armor versions. |
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Originally Posted By Willmar: If there is an SME contributing here that isn’t a member, I’ll be happy to buy a membership for them if the thread is moved to Team. View Quote That’s nice and all, but there is Zero reason I should have to PAY arfcom to read this thread. They already make a fortune off of our eyes and clicks. |
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"This is how the Leopard 1A5 tanks stored in the hangars of the German company FFG Flensburger look like.
Despite the fact that the machines undoubtedly need repair, they are properly preserved, sheltered from the direct influence of weather conditions and are in an externally acceptable condition. The Leopard 1A5 is a modernization of the early Leopard 1, the key difference from which is the presence of the EMES 18 anti-tank system with a laser rangefinder and thermal imager, similar to the early Leopard 2, as well as the ability to install additional armor plates that slightly increase the tank's armor protection." Attached File Attached File |
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"Ukrainian soldiers cut out an American 155-mm howitzer M777 frozen in the ground with chainsaws and heat it with an open flame."
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Those Leopard 1's....
So it's the perfect tank to defend Kyiv and the Belorussian border. And to exploit breakthroughs by better tanks. Equivalent to a T72M I believe, although the 105mm gun may be weak compared to the 125mm. Maybe given the right ammo it would keep up. |
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Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: It's GD, suck it up or leave. The whole point of freedom means you fight to hear shit you don't want to hear. I'm no fan of the Russian view; but let's not weaponize the CoC to run out people who disagree with whatever you think; because that's still a useful source of information. View Quote Unfortunately and fortunately, some people use the anonymity of the internet to show their ass. Unfortunately, because they oftentimes go out of their way to make their point in the worst way possible. Fortunately, they are also showing you who they really are and why, what and how they really think. As a current scholar and retired military officer, I am willing to put up with a whole lot of the unfortunate part to drill down on the fortunate part. Ideally, you end up knowing the opponents argument and can state it more succinctly than they can. I know it takes a really thick alligator hide, but I find being able to freely assess these viewpoints, as it 1) lets me check my information against both rational and irrational arguments, and 2) gives me both positive and negative insight into certain members views. We have overall great people here. We also have some seriously broken people who check in from time to time. It is invaluable to determine who is who in the zoo. |
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This is a Russian source that's been carefully tracking killed and injured on both sides of the conflict. Thread in tweet.
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Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Did it get shelled on the way out of Ukraine or is it supposed to be broken? ETA- and are you getting ready to eat it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By sq40: What’s this… a package from Karhkiv? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/EAE6CE72-7298-439D-AA4C-9BB7213EA5B3_jpe-2695969.JPG And what’s inside.. The Emperor of Mankind! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/71B86E18-F076-4DA7-B330-B06CC3C692B9_jpe-2695970.JPG If you are a war game nerd into 40k or LOTR like me… get something cool from Ukraine’s Black Legion Market. https://blacklegionmarket.co/ Did it get shelled on the way out of Ukraine or is it supposed to be broken? ETA- and are you getting ready to eat it? *some assembly required So, I like to spend early Saturday mornings putting miniatures together. I like to sit in my recliner by the fire while doing it. I found a sold melmanine lunch tray is the best for holding all of the parts and having a sold assembly space in the entree spot. It sits in my lap great. |
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“America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.” -Hunter S. Thompson
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree with Prime here. I was dissapointed when the original thread went to the .mil forum, which unfortunately removed a lot of people from participating. I would not want to have this moved to a more secure thread for members only because there's a lot of lurkers that read this, and some of them are really good and talented people that sometimes chime in with great info and perspectives. Plus, they use this info to inform others outside of this thread what's going on over there, we don't get to directly see the effects of that information exchange though. Truth has a way of surviving, so if there is lies and false info, let it die over time as more truth comes out about a situation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By SkiShooter: I have had it with the trolls and the non-stop GD bs. Any thoughts on moving the thread to Team or finding another venue where the conversations can continue? Here’s the thing with that- One of the best things that happens in this thread is when someone from 2006 with 500 posts pops in with some insightful comment and says they’ve been reading from the beginning. That happens a lot. If the truth is out there, it’s gonna attract a lot of hate. Most of the disagreements in here seem like veiled attempts to derail the thread. That’s when you know you have something good. Damn the torpedoes, I say. I agree with Prime here. I was dissapointed when the original thread went to the .mil forum, which unfortunately removed a lot of people from participating. I would not want to have this moved to a more secure thread for members only because there's a lot of lurkers that read this, and some of them are really good and talented people that sometimes chime in with great info and perspectives. Plus, they use this info to inform others outside of this thread what's going on over there, we don't get to directly see the effects of that information exchange though. Truth has a way of surviving, so if there is lies and false info, let it die over time as more truth comes out about a situation. X2 |
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Neat, and very close up footage of a Ukrainian drone going after a Russian tank actively firing on Ukrainian positions.
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Originally Posted By sq40: *some assembly required So, I like to spend early Saturday mornings putting miniatures together. I like to sit in my recliner by the fire while doing it. I found a sold melmanine lunch tray is the best for holding all of the parts and having a sold assembly space in the entree spot. It sits in my lap great. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: Originally Posted By sq40: What’s this… a package from Karhkiv? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/EAE6CE72-7298-439D-AA4C-9BB7213EA5B3_jpe-2695969.JPG And what’s inside.. The Emperor of Mankind! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49447/71B86E18-F076-4DA7-B330-B06CC3C692B9_jpe-2695970.JPG If you are a war game nerd into 40k or LOTR like me… get something cool from Ukraine’s Black Legion Market. https://blacklegionmarket.co/ Did it get shelled on the way out of Ukraine or is it supposed to be broken? ETA- and are you getting ready to eat it? *some assembly required So, I like to spend early Saturday mornings putting miniatures together. I like to sit in my recliner by the fire while doing it. I found a sold melmanine lunch tray is the best for holding all of the parts and having a sold assembly space in the entree spot. It sits in my lap great. What version of melamine tray are you running? Not gonna lie, I'm looking on eBay now... |
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Originally Posted By Mickdog13: That’s nice and all, but there is Zero reason I should have to PAY arfcom to read this thread. They already make a fortune off of our eyes and clicks. View Quote I object on these reasons also. This forum makes many - way too many - features standard everywhere else, monetized here. Putting more widely used content out of reach isn’t the answer. Besides, it’s NOT non-paying members causing a problem. It’s getting impartial moderation that matters. |
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Originally Posted By m35ben: The problem with moving it to team is that is excludes non-team members. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AROKIE: I wish we could move this to team. It's been an amazing thread with tons of information! Each day of this war is documented here since day one of this conflict. And damn sure don't want it locked, if that happened it would be the end of my time here also. I'm not a member and would be losing out on one of the most informative threads I've come across. The information on ordnance capabilities and numbers/cost of equipment has been incredible. Surely the issue of trolls can be addressed in this thread as it is in all others without moving it to a team or .mil forum. |
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Interesting detail at the bottom. https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-ato/3664965-estonia-peredala-dla-armii-droniv-devat-bezpilotnikiv.html Link, Arabic News |
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Originally Posted By Capta: Tell me this poster was permabanned. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Pretty sure this (and constant repetitions like it) was the offending post Originally Posted By foxinnc: Lol. I guess whatever it takes to get your mail order Slavs cunt wet. I know arfcom used to be pretty low tolerance for attacking members' family. I hope it still is. I'm not sure anymore, tho. Tell me this poster was permabanned. Link to that post please? |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote That's an interesting number for the Germans to transfer. 93 seems a little better. 100 gives a few spares. |
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Originally Posted By Dracster: That's an interesting number for the Germans to transfer. 93 seems a little better. 100 gives a few spares. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
That's an interesting number for the Germans to transfer. 93 seems a little better. 100 gives a few spares. I think they have 29 ready to go today, but they are refurbishing the others, so more could be sent than that number as time goes on. |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
View Quote You gotta love their sense of humor in the midst of a war for survival. |
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Former head of Kherson (Lahuta) overheard shouting "AM I BEING DETAINED?!" while being apprehended on charges of fraud, forgery, and corruption.
Just kidding, he is being detained though. |
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Originally Posted By Dracster: That's an interesting number for the Germans to transfer. 93 seems a little better. 100 gives a few spares. View Quote
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Neat, and very close up footage of a Ukrainian drone going after a Russian tank actively firing on Ukrainian positions.
View Quote That was pretty dynamic. I wonder if the tankers knew they were being stalked by the drone? |
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Neat, and very close up footage of a Ukrainian drone going after a Russian tank actively firing on Ukrainian positions.
View Quote That's edited footage, two different tanks..different time of year |
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Oh I'd fit right in there. Santa indeed! Several years ago I was walking through Lowes and this little girl, about 5 or 6 started pointing at me saying Momma! Momma! LOOK! it's Santa! The mom looked at me and said You're right dear, he does look like Santa! My wife thought that was way funnier than I did! It sucks getting old! View Quote Lol, Every winter I let the beard go, and I am very popular with the santa age kids. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: Link to that post please? View Quote Guns762 messaged me and very much apologized it was up for so long, and that the member who posted is now "banned". Everything is cool, and we can move forward Edit: and we can end the discussion about moving the thread...best place for it is on page 1 of GD |
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"the science" /duh si-ens/ noun: progressive postmodern religious dogma not based in tested hypothesis or facts used to advance an authoritative political ideology
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I agree with Prime here. I was dissapointed when the original thread went to the .mil forum, which unfortunately removed a lot of people from participating. I would not want to have this moved to a more secure thread for members only because there's a lot of lurkers that read this, and some of them are really good and talented people that sometimes chime in with great info and perspectives. Plus, they use this info to inform others outside of this thread what's going on over there, we don't get to directly see the effects of that information exchange though. Truth has a way of surviving, so if there is lies and false info, let it die over time as more truth comes out about a situation. View Quote ^THIS. I have a bunch of conservative friends who seem to get all their news and information from Tucker or Bannon. Almost all of them have taken on a anti-Ukraine stance based on false information perpetuated by these inbreds. My vehicle sports a "Fuck Putin" bumper sticker, and this has on occasion sparked a conversation with some of them. They are surprised that I am willing to support a corrupt regime with all of our billions of dollars that could be going to build "The Wall" or some other nonsense. When I explain to them how little of our military budget goes toward our aid to Ukraine and all of what we're gaining in return, they start seeing the light. This is information I've been able to glean from following this thread. It would be a shame to allow a couple of clowns to move this thread beyond the reach of many who have viewed this as the epic thread it is. |
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Originally Posted By planemaker: That was pretty dynamic. I wonder if the tankers knew they were being stalked by the drone? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Neat, and very close up footage of a Ukrainian drone going after a Russian tank actively firing on Ukrainian positions.
That was pretty dynamic. I wonder if the tankers knew they were being stalked by the drone? Probably not, tanks can't see very vell buttoned up like that first one was while firing. Once the grenade hit the barrel, they may have taken measures. As mentioned above, the other part is a second tank that's abandoned. |
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Originally Posted By Willmar: If there is an SME contributing here that isn't a member, I'll be happy to buy a membership for them if the thread is moved to Team. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Willmar: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AROKIE: I wish we could move this to team. It's been an amazing thread with tons of information! Each day of this war is documented here since day one of this conflict. And damn sure don't want it locked, if that happened it would be the end of my time here also. If there is an SME contributing here that isn't a member, I'll be happy to buy a membership for them if the thread is moved to Team. |
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: I'm not sure I see much value in the Leopard 1. It only has a 105mm gun and paper thin armor. But I guess anything that can shoot and move will prove useful in a war like this where both men and equipment are getting chewed up and spit out in industrial quantities. And moving is certainly something the Leopard 1 excels at. View Quote On paper it has a lot in common with the Army’s new MPF. |
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Having provoked a staff shortage at the ZNPP, the Rashists are now urgently looking for personnel to work at the station (https://telegra.ph/file/bec7c7a5d16aad301585b.jpg)
Russian invaders who took hostage the largest in Europe - Zaporizhzhya - nuclear power plant along with its staff , pointed out that now there is simply no one to work there. Even recruitment by advertisement did not help, so now the invaders at the ZNPP have to hire former nuclear workers who have long since retired. In an attempt to find qualified nuclear workers, the Russian occupiers set a kind of anti-record by offering a job to an 80-year-old (!) pensioner. As another way of "luring" personnel, invaders use "career elevator". That is, they offer quite a promotion, for example, from cleaners to bosses. However, even this does not help the Russian nuclear terrorists very much. What's more: due to the lack of personnel, the occupiers cannot start at least one power unit of the ZNPP, and the plant's equipment continues to degrade due to violations of operating modes, non-compliance with the temperature regime and shutdown of power units. The physical, nuclear and radiation safety of the Zaporizhia NPP still rests with the qualified nuclear engineers of Ukraine, who did not agree to cooperate with the enemy and refused to sign contracts with the fake JSC "Operating Organization of the Zaporizhia NPP". Energoatom once again calls on nuclear workers not to sign any contracts with the enemy, so as not to become direct aids of the aggressor and destroy their own future! The Company also reminds: the brave personnel of the Zaporizhzhia NPP, who continue to remain loyal to Ukraine under the conditions of occupation, will receive all the promised payments - wages, rewards based on the results of 2022 and bonuses for the Energy Day. In addition, all nuclear workers - patriots of the ZNPP will be paid additional bonuses in the amount of 50% of the official salary/tariff rate starting from January 1, 2023 (before that - from April 2022 - 20%). The accrual and one-time payment of this additional monetary reward is planned immediately after the de-occupation of the city of Energodar and the complete liberation of the Zaporizhzhya NPP from the Russian occupiers. #ZNPP Write to us (http://t.me/EnergoatomContact_bot)🇺🇦 | FB (https://www.facebook.com/energoatom.ua) | IG (https://www.instagram.com/energoatom.ua) | YT (https://www.youtube.com/energoatomcompany) | TW (https://twitter.com/energoatom_ua) | IN (https://www.linkedin.com/company/energoatom-ua) https://t.me/energoatom_ua/11768 |
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: These mostly baseless claims are existing for EVERY weapon system of the NVA and are spread by former East German military personal who could not handle that the Bundeswehr was two decades ahead of the NVA. It is true that the Bundeswehr tested everything, but most equipment was sold or scrapped as fast as possible. View Quote On paper the T-72 is a better tank than the Leopard 1. In practice it has better armor and firepower. The human factors are tilted the other way though. |
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Originally Posted By Shadyman: Yes. Russia has always fucked up at the beginning of every war they have been in. History repeats. Also, they get their shit together and learn from their mistakes. Right now they are running out of gear and are reverting to their old tried and true form of warfare. Throw huge amounts of flesh at the enemy and overwhelm them. They have a population of 140 million people. And lots of non European Russians in the caucus and Siberia. They have never ended a war till they lose at least 500,000 men. Sometimes a hell of a lot more than that. We need to send longer range missiles so the Ukrainians can cut off Crimea from the mainland and destroy the trains, which The Russian Army uses almost exclusively to send supplies. View Quote Since the dawn of the industrial age Russia hasn’t won a war against a nation with more than a tenth of their population without access to US industry. They needed our material in Crimea, WW1, WW2, etc. |
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How the GLSDB long range weapons system could change the war in Ukraine I DW News |
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