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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By klinc: That was great. "Tank hit and electronics/turret failed. We bailed and ran but left it in reverese. Got back in it when it got back to us crawlers and drive back to base." |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:11:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIts roomier than a Russian tank.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:11:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex9661: Pantsir on the roof of the Ministry of Defense in Moscow. Green against the background of roofing material, asphalt and snow is an interesting choice of camo netting. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234577/net_JPG-2696045.JPG 
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:11:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:12:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Noticed this too, it's good to see, keeps the Russians afraid of counterbattery. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I've definitely seen an uptick in Russian artillery pieces getting hit lately. Noticed this too, it's good to see, keeps the Russians afraid of counterbattery. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:12:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MFP_4073]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: God bless those medics. Those wounds are aweful. if anyone is interested from a medical standpoint a definitive 400 pg book on war surgery is this: https://www.amazon.com/War-Surgery-Afghanistan-Iraq-2003-2007/dp/0981822800 not for the feint of heart the care of combat casualties within the US military was already very good. it was refined to near perfection during GWOT. countless soldiers survived wounds that would have been fatal to earlier generations. i hope the Ukrainian soldiers get similar care |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:13:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: I think they can put those launchers in the beds of trucks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
It should be explained that the US didn't need this system, so no testing was done with use of HIMARS and M270 launchers. The US will provide the necessary launchers for the system though. This both frees up HIMARS to focus on other tasks, and allows the new launchers to focus on the more longer range fires. The vehicles could be more disguised and less distinguishable compared to a HIMARS unit as well. Your correct, I think it would be hard for the Russians to find them. A modified garbage truck could probably launch these.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:14:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ludder093]
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:20:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/C94BD614-C66D-4DD8-8FA4-B0F2076C88E6-2697303.jpg Russian with a UA drone https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/BA6C1385-DE22-4A74-9E63-8956BBD45979-2697302.jpg That sure is a BIG honker now isn't it! |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:36:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chaingun: Yep I don't see it. Can someone circle the area of interest I understand why the US abandoned the "rods from god" program. But I would love the messaged it would send if "something" just fell from space and hit that thing. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:41:00 PM EDT
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I count 13 stacks of 10. Drone production is certainly in full swing!
I think they should dub these drones, "Orcrist" the goblin cleaver. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:46:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CletusRoundbelly: I love this thread. I read it in the morning while having coffee. I read it at lunch at work. I read it in the evening after I get home. Have since page 1. Its a fucking shame that a few shit-throwing monkees managed to run off a few of our best sources of inside news because hey got their little feelings hurt over some words. Just my .02 Is that you, Dr. Seuss? Haha, I kid, I kid. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:52:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIqAEZXgAUlBDK?format=jpg&name=small
Riiiiiiiiiight... They have the ability to do so much more because a year in to a war that they claim is for their national survival the russians have actually been holding back all this time.  Hope the orcs in Crimea are packing their bags because as soon as the GLSDB's arrive their precious little bridge is toast. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:52:23 PM EDT
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Zelensky-"No one will surrender Bakhmut. We will fight for as long as we can. We see Bakhmut as our fortress... "
Why? What is so great about Bakhmut that it is worth fighting to the death? I understand it's political value to russia. The only value I see to Ukraine is to prevent russia from having a PR victory. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 1:54:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Zelensky-"No one will surrender Bakhmut. We will fight for as long as we can. We see Bakhmut as our fortress... " Why? What is so great about Bakhmut that it is worth fighting to the death? I understand it's political value to russia. The only value I see to Ukraine is to prevent russia from having a PR victory. Concur. This is a really, really bad idea from my perspective. They're giving the Russians exactly what they want by turning this into a positional meat grinder. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:08:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Concur. This is a really, really bad idea from my perspective. They're giving the Russians exactly what they want by turning this into a positional meat grinder. Ukraine will not win by staying in one place and slugging it out with russia unless they are taking literally 10 to 1 russian to ukranian KIA/WIA. Russia is simply going to mobilize more people. Ukraine has already mobilized mostly everybody they have. A better way to look at this is to ask exactly how many Ukranian casualties is this piece of dirt worth? |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:08:48 PM EDT
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"Russia and Ukraine battling for city of Bakhmut"  Russia and Ukraine battling for city of Bakhmut |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: in one of the videos posted on this page, when the drone circled the first time I could've sworn it was a hawk. Perfect profile. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: A wild guess, the radar can detect the drone, but the FCS is filtering out these small targets as error or maybe a bird and therefore they can't see it on their screens. in one of the videos posted on this page, when the drone circled the first time I could've sworn it was a hawk. Perfect profile. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:15:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Ukraine will not win by staying in one place and slugging it out with russia unless they are taking literally 10 to 1 russian to ukranian KIA/WIA. Russia is simply going to mobilize more people. Ukraine has already mobilized mostly everybody they have. A better way to look at this is to ask exactly how many Ukranian casualties is this piece of dirt worth? I'd agree in theory but only the Ukranians know the real numbers, fed likely by US/NATO Intel, if they've held on this long, I would ASSUME there's a good reason. How'd they bleed them dry around the north, so much so they were able to capture 6,000sqkm in a few days? Wasn't that the feint around Kherson that forced the Russians to send troops to fill a gap that didn't need filled? Years from now we'll know what happened, for now we have to sit around and watch a slugfest between Europe's Texas and a country so short on useful integrated circuits they're removing them from safety systems in cars. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:18:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:21:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Riiiiiiiiiight... They have the ability to do so much more because a year in to a war that they claim is for their national survival the russians have actually been holding back all this time. Hope the orcs in Crimea are packing their bags because as soon as the GLSDB's arrive their precious little bridge is toast. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By ludder093: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIqAEZXgAUlBDK?format=jpg&name=small
Riiiiiiiiiight... They have the ability to do so much more because a year in to a war that they claim is for their national survival the russians have actually been holding back all this time. Hope the orcs in Crimea are packing their bags because as soon as the GLSDB's arrive their precious little bridge is toast. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:26:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: I don't know if the GLSDB has enough range to hit that bridge. I think it's still out of range. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By ludder093: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIqAEZXgAUlBDK?format=jpg&name=small
Riiiiiiiiiight... They have the ability to do so much more because a year in to a war that they claim is for their national survival the russians have actually been holding back all this time. Hope the orcs in Crimea are packing their bags because as soon as the GLSDB's arrive their precious little bridge is toast. It will seriously complicate things on the other side at least. Red area is 150km range. 
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:37:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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In other news, an F-15 is shooting down the Chinese balloon.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:37:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It will seriously complicate things on the other side at least. Red area is 150km range. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoEcyMaWYAIc1Bu?format=jpg&name=900x900 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By ludder093: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIqAEZXgAUlBDK?format=jpg&name=small
Riiiiiiiiiight... They have the ability to do so much more because a year in to a war that they claim is for their national survival the russians have actually been holding back all this time. Hope the orcs in Crimea are packing their bags because as soon as the GLSDB's arrive their precious little bridge is toast. It will seriously complicate things on the other side at least. Red area is 150km range. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoEcyMaWYAIc1Bu?format=jpg&name=900x900 It's not big enough to drop the bridge anyway. The average SDB is only 36lbs of explosive. I'm pretty sure that's less, not more than the GMLRS rockets. As far as the bridge, we've been down this path before: Thanh Hóa Bridge GLSDB is going to be nice for ammo depots, POL, high value targets, etc. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:39:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: I'd agree in theory but only the Ukranians know the real numbers, fed likely by US/NATO Intel, if they've held on this long, I would ASSUME there's a good reason. How'd they bleed them dry around the north, so much so they were able to capture 6,000sqkm in a few days? Wasn't that the feint around Kherson that forced the Russians to send troops to fill a gap that didn't need filled? Years from now we'll know what happened, for now we have to sit around and watch a slugfest between Europe's Texas and a country so short on useful integrated circuits they're removing them from safety systems in cars. Valid points. There is a long history of military blunders where leaders decide that a piece of dirt has already been so costly that they refuse to give it up after so much sacrifice, and pride. And their troops fight literally to death. Mariupol was a tactical last stand that paid off, in spite of the blood and heartbreak. Hopefully Ukrainian leaders are still being as pragmatic and unemotional with Bakhmut. The defenders of Dunkirk comes to mind. Hopefully. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I feel like the Luhansk & Donetsk populations are paying the heaviest price of all. They are truly going to have a "lost generation." Surely they can all see it, that their people are the first to die at the behest of Russians. Is it really worth it? What has joining "mother Russia" brought them except misery and death? I hope Ukraine is maintaining rigorous info ops aimed at Donbas. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: This is the Russian backed radio guy that works on their tank communications among other things.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoE8eVcXEAIavw4?format=png&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoE9GbMXEAAds_H?format=png&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoE9V80WIAIiQgN?format=png&name=900x900 I feel like the Luhansk & Donetsk populations are paying the heaviest price of all. They are truly going to have a "lost generation." Surely they can all see it, that their people are the first to die at the behest of Russians. Is it really worth it? What has joining "mother Russia" brought them except misery and death? I hope Ukraine is maintaining rigorous info ops aimed at Donbas. Their male population is being annihilated and there were even recent reports that they’ve started drafting women. The Russians are doing Ukraine’s post-war work for them - annihilating the Russian powerbase in east Ukraine. Whatever is left at the end of the war should be deported to Russia. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:51:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MNGearhead: Kind of surreal. https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/10sx98j/soldier_from_the_ukrainian_army_with_his/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/299228/UkraineWarVideoReport-x98j_jpg-2697239.JPG [tweet]https://twitter.com/rshereme/status/1621568945592434688/photo/1[/tweet] |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Their male population is being annihilated and there were even recent reports that they’ve started drafting women. The Russians are doing Ukraine’s post-war work for them - annihilating the Russian powerbase in east Ukraine. Whatever is left at the end of the war should be deported to Russia. Russia has said they want Ukraine people and culture destroyed, and they are trying to do it. It's no longer hypothetical. Anybody in Ukrainian borders who supports that, supports russia, should be at least kicked out of the country they want the russians to destroy. I don't agree that speaking russian should be banned, but culturally it should be phased out. Be Ukranian, or leave. It's literally life or death. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:54:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: This is why when I see dead tallies, I just double that number to factor in the injured that might have survived.
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:56:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jungatheart]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy:
I think they should dub these drones, "Orcrist" the goblin cleaver. Seconded. Great idea. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: I don't know if the GLSDB has enough range to hit that bridge. I think it's still out of range. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By ludder093: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIqAEZXgAUlBDK?format=jpg&name=small
Riiiiiiiiiight... They have the ability to do so much more because a year in to a war that they claim is for their national survival the russians have actually been holding back all this time. Hope the orcs in Crimea are packing their bags because as soon as the GLSDB's arrive their precious little bridge is toast. Dang it. I swear I read somewhere that these would put that in range. Clearly I was wrong. Every morning I get up hoping to hear some how the bridge was hit and is completely out of commission. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:57:33 PM EDT
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Live feed from Fox of the impending balloon shootdown.
[youtube]live/nsQaM3i885A?feature=share[/youtube] |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 2:58:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Dang it. I swear I read somewhere that these would put that in range. Clearly I was wrong. Every morning I get up hoping to hear some how the bridge was hit and is completely out of commission. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By Auto5guy: Originally Posted By ludder093: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoIqAEZXgAUlBDK?format=jpg&name=small
Riiiiiiiiiight... They have the ability to do so much more because a year in to a war that they claim is for their national survival the russians have actually been holding back all this time. Hope the orcs in Crimea are packing their bags because as soon as the GLSDB's arrive their precious little bridge is toast. Dang it. I swear I read somewhere that these would put that in range. Clearly I was wrong. Every morning I get up hoping to hear some how the bridge was hit and is completely out of commission. They will be in range if Ukraine makes offensives to the South and East. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:05:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Russian tank get's it's ass on fire.
Same video as above, more context:
The last video is interesting. It definitely looks like the infantry on the last APC saw the four roasted tracks and said - fuck this, we’re leaving. Smart, some of them probably lived. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: It's not big enough to drop the bridge anyway. The average SDB is only 36lbs of explosive. I'm pretty sure that's less, not more than the GMLRS rockets. As far as the bridge, we've been down this path before: Thanh H a Bridge GLSDB is going to be nice for ammo depots, POL, high value targets, etc. According to army-technology.com it's quite a bit more than that. Small hammer blows over time can do as much damage as a single big one. "The GLSDB is equipped with an ultra-low fragmentation, carbon fibre case warhead with 57.6kg Insensitive Munition-certified explosive fill. The warhead case assembly is made of carbon fibre materials and is integrated with conical steel nose." |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:12:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m35ben]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Live feed from Fox of the impending balloon shootdown.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=live/nsQaM3i885A?feature=share WATCH LIVE: Chinese spy balloon shot down over Atlantic Ocean | LiveNOW from FOX |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:14:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Live feed from Fox of the impending balloon shootdown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=live/nsQaM3i885A?feature=sharePut 500 rounds of 20 Mike Mike through that motherfucker, then go collect the sensor package when it comes down into the ocean. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:16:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It will seriously complicate things on the other side at least. Red area is 150km range. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoEcyMaWYAIc1Bu?format=jpg&name=900x900 |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Almost time to pay the wages of sin. It’s a tough ask, but may God have mercy on him. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:17:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Put 500 rounds of 20 Mike Mike through that motherfucker, then go collect the sensor package when it comes down into the ocean. How about 30 rounds and catch it on the way down? |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:21:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Live feed from Fox of the impending balloon shootdown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=live/nsQaM3i885A?feature=share https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsQaM3i885AThanks Ben, NOTAM expires in 40 minutes so shoot down is soon. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:22:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Put 500 rounds of 20 Mike Mike through that motherfucker, then go collect the sensor package when it comes down into the ocean. Just as soon as it starts losing altitude in any significant way, that thing will burn like it was made out of magnesium shavings... I bet you a shiny new penny |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:23:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: How about 30 rounds and catch it on the way down? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Put 500 rounds of 20 Mike Mike through that motherfucker, then go collect the sensor package when it comes down into the ocean. How about 30 rounds and catch it on the way down? they have ships in the area to capture the sensor package. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:23:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Red lines, a gesture of goodwill, a tactical retreat, a cunning plan, it's all fake, what other words were there? I just got tired of this list. Listen, I know for sure, there you had a suitcase lying around somewhere in the Government, taking it out and opening it, you can press a button that will solve the issue once and for all. It's time. I answer it's time. Even if I am split into atoms, I am ready, so long as it all ends. https://t.me/Separ13_13/7662 OR, you could leave Ukraine. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:24:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Put 500 rounds of 20 Mike Mike through that motherfucker, then go collect the sensor package when it comes down into the ocean. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:24:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks Ben, NOTAM expires in 40 minutes so shoot down is soon. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:25:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:26:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile:
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: no problem Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks Ben, NOTAM expires in 40 minutes so shoot down is soon. Meh, they extended it for an hour. They are trying to find a window where there's nothin' over/under/around it. Plus politicians love a shit show. |
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Posted: 2/4/2023 3:28:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Possible 3rd TOR arctic version.
The video quality is so poor that I can’t tell if it’s a new hit or just another view of kill number 2. Still interesting though. It’s like they sent in a brand new TOR unit with absolutely no idea what the realities in Ukraine were. |
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