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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:00:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Like I said before (I think in this thread), I remember this place in 2008 when Russia invaded Georgia. Georgian flags in avatars and locations galore. I honestly don't remember a single poster being on the pro-Russian side. If there were any they we're rightfully afraid to voice it with Ed Sr around. Vito113 the Irish turncoat in the Royal Navy was pro Russia during that invasion and in other matters. Very vocal about it. He got banned later for anti Semetic slurs. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:01:08 AM EST
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Ukrainian thermal drone corrected mortar.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:04:05 AM EST
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If Ukraine is claiming it, they might be showing they have heavier SAM's in the area.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:05:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Mentions the Bakhmut kill ratio is 1 dead Ukrainian to 7 to 10 dead Russians. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:05:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: One thing I hadn't thought about when I watched the video of the drone landing on the radome. When you're a good distance away from your ground station, the closer you get to the ground, the more likely you'll lose link and/or video feed. That video was good all the way. That tells me the folks doing the flying were "close" by, probably just outside (or even inside) the airfield perimeter. What they may have been doing was getting precise GPS coordinates for the radome of the rooskie aircraft. Then sent a larger kamikaze unit to hit those coordinates from farther away since they didn't need a link all the way for that to work. 
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:09:53 AM EST
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:11:36 AM EST
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Other's here might be interested in this guys Twitter posts. He was working on a drone with anti jam capability over a month ago and ran missions with it. Sounds promising.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:11:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: Pull out of bakhmut. Use as jdam testing ground. Fucking Wagner pigs. EDIT: It's a haiku! Serious question: Do you think the UAF already has Arty scoped in on every square inch of Bakhmut, so that IF they pull back they can easily level it when it's full of Orcs? I would. CMOS |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:12:23 AM EST
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lol.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:14:21 AM EST
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:14:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is actually extremely interesting. It’s 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I’d suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:15:58 AM EST
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Very short, but a zombie BMP-3 burning from the inside and driving somewhere.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:17:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: This is actually extremely interesting. It’s 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I’d suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is actually extremely interesting. It’s 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I’d suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:19:51 AM EST
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:19:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is actually extremely interesting. It’s 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I’d suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. What's with the GD watermark? |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:21:16 AM EST
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32 minutes ago, heavier strikes on Russian manpower today already than the past few days.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:22:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squatch: What's with the GD watermark? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squatch: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is actually extremely interesting. It’s 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I’d suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. What's with the GD watermark? It's done so the Russians can't re purpose the video and say it was a Ukrainian Su-27 shot down. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:22:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The shootdown could have been friendly fire. If not, the range at which it was shot down from the front line would indicate a large S-300 type sam system working close to the front. Nice thing about all the good western SAMs they’re getting is that it allows them to risk an older, LR SAM close to the front. High risk, high reward. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:22:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: merick]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: This. We're actually far more prepared for this than most people realize. It's another level if they tried to do this as a U.S. Air Force base. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Jack67: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: … I can't wrap my brain around this. The war started one year ago and some guys can fly a drone over one of their most valuable planes inside an airfield with radars and shit and the Russians didn't notice anything until it was too late? … Are we sure this couldn’t happen in Spokane? Offut? Barksdale? Maybe we are prepared for this, but are we really? IDK. My only surprise, in Russia/Belarus, is that it hasn’t happened 20 times already. On civil airports they can detect and down these small drones, happens every week around the world. This. We're actually far more prepared for this than most people realize. It's another level if they tried to do this as a U.S. Air Force base. Not like a school bus sized recon balloon traversed the whole continent unscathed last month or anything |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:24:35 AM EST
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Which falls into the Ukrainian plan to have armored assaults in a few months against ill equipped and protected Russian forces. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:24:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Here’s the vid of the grenade/munition delivery. Just released, from Kherson Cat (that guy is a treasure). They were just at the airfield perimeter so it’s the whole flight from take off to detonation. They landed on the satcom fairing between the cockpit and the radome (the bulge on the fuselage top in front of the wing root).
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/D67E7D13-AE8F-4C50-9485-37E5E35B4AEB_jpe-2731920.JPG Also: wow that “defector” sounds like a nut job. I wish they wouldn’t have shown they take off location. That’s confirmation for security forces on how the attack was completed and steps taken to counter it. These little drones are going to be a serious asymmetric challenge for everyone. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:25:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By merick: Not like a school bus sized recon balloon traversed the whole continent unscathed last month or anything Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By merick: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: This. We're actually far more prepared for this than most people realize. It's another level if they tried to do this as a U.S. Air Force base. Not like a school bus sized recon balloon traversed the whole continent unscathed last month or anything Not like it was seen when it was launched from the small island in Chinese territory either. In this case, you can't always control bad decisions from upper management.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:27:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: It's done so the Russians can't re purpose the video and say it was a Ukrainian Su-27 shot down. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Squatch: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is actually extremely interesting. It’s 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I’d suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. What's with the GD watermark? It's done so the Russians can't re purpose the video and say it was a Ukrainian Su-27 shot down. Aha. Makes sense. Thx! |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:27:42 AM EST
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:28:28 AM EST
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MD, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:31:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: So your point about earmarks and congressional directed spending outside of merit/competitive recipient award process (through the procurement/acquisition/grant/etc processes) and omnibus appropriations is the problem? I got bad news for you buddy, the earmarks have been going on for just about ever while consolidated apropos have been going on with stunning regularity for most of the last quarter century. Yes. Accountability is a issue with our Government. What many don't want to think about is the US's printing of money may mean someday, we collapse. If that happens, there will be no US to Ukraine, NATO, Taiwan or anyone else. Let's just keep everything as black and white like so many here want to do. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:33:17 AM EST
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:35:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Wagner's new recruiting strategy. We publish the statement of E.V. Prigogine: "In order to recruit new fighters for the Wagner PMC who will defend our Motherland, we have already opened recruitment centers for the Wagner PMC in a number of cities. These centers are located on the basis of sports clubs, where you will come, you will be checked - how physically strong you are and then they will tell you how you will get to us. We fully trust these centers, they are our supporters. The first center that we opened is the Grusha martial arts club, it is located at the address: Moscow, Shmitovsky proezd, house 2. Special thanks to them, they are the first. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/AF57E34B-5B51-46EE-928C-5A81E656F039-2731815.jpg https://t.me/rsotmdivision/5367 Wow. They spared no expense for the first center. It's all downhill from there. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:35:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Very short, but a zombie BMP-3 burning from the inside and driving somewhere.
There’s a video on UA TG that purports to be a T-80BV hitting a mine, and turret tossing, as below  For some reason that BMP video is right in the middle of it. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:44:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: The would tell Oksana "I support you, buuuuuut" then a bunch of reasons that makes "I support you" meaningless. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Kagetora: I really wish that would be so, but what I fear would happen is the person calmly typing anti-Ukraine BS into their phone would end up on some godforsaken rant about one of the ridiculous talking points regurgitated by the media and Twit/Face/Snap/Bookagram. --Accountability! --Fake News! --Corruption! --Denazification! --Globohomo! --Fuck Everyone Involved! Fuck Nato! Fuck Ukraine! Fuck Russia! I don't think that would help Oksana much, but, frankly...I'd expect it to happen. I'm getting very discouraged with the "conservatives" in my neck of the woods. Several people I know personally do nothing but regurgitate Russian talking points on social media. I've cut quite a few people out of my life based on it. Talking to them, trying to reason with them, offering up reasonable arguments...none of it leads anywhere. I've gotten pretty tired of it, on top of my health issues and a variety of other life things going on. Instead, I think I'll just make an effort to be positive where I can, make sure to let people like Oksana know that some of us aren't fucking retarded, and keep writing my representatives to hopefully make sure aid continues to flow. Contribute what I can. I swear to all the gods anyone believes in, I literally had a conversation today where someone made the remark that Ukraine used to be part of Russia so they deserved to have it back and we shouldn't interfere. When I argued contrary to that, the rebuttal was "So, you'd support Texas seceding from the Union then?" I was like...holy fuck. My responses were "Ah, so you'd have supported Britain in 1812, and don't tell me for one fucking second that you wouldn't pee yourself with excitement if California broke away and took it's Electoral College votes with it." Silence. Tomorrow, that same person will start parroting more anti-Ukraine propaganda. It's a losing battle against smooth-brained people on the left-half of the bell curve, and I'm rapidly lacking the energy to fight it. What you said seems like an extremely likely scenario. Depressingly so. 
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:47:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Mentions the Bakhmut kill ratio is 1 dead Ukrainian to 7 to 10 dead Russians.  Huh? 
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:49:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is actually extremely interesting. It's 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I'd suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. 
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:53:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Some countries are giving what they can and more. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/390973/FqTBPGtWwAAc9IS-2732005.jpg But but but europe needs to do more |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 10:56:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: I can't reveal any details, but I saw how they work, it has nothing to do with the firmware of the drone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Abakan: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: On civil airports they can detect and down these small drones, happens every week around the world. Unless they use cracked firmware. Which negates "non flight zones". I can't reveal any details, but I saw how they work, it has nothing to do with the firmware of the drone. Wben using DJI drones they absoluely HAVE to use cracked firmware. Otherwise they are on the mercy of the chincoms to even lift off. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:01:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: There’s a video on UA TG that purports to be a T-80BV hitting a mine, and turret tossing, as below https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/99494B1D-8827-4AC5-A29C-3EF25DA05910-2732157.jpg For some reason that BMP video is right in the middle of it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Very short, but a zombie BMP-3 burning from the inside and driving somewhere.
There’s a video on UA TG that purports to be a T-80BV hitting a mine, and turret tossing, as below https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/99494B1D-8827-4AC5-A29C-3EF25DA05910-2732157.jpg For some reason that BMP video is right in the middle of it. Wow! Thanks for that. 
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:04:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By amanbearpig: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Mentions the Bakhmut kill ratio is 1 dead Ukrainian to 7 to 10 dead Russians. Huh? Going from his earlier posts, I don't know his political ideas, but with the translation I think he means that if they fight and win against Russia, they wouldn't have to have so many of their countries population having to live in nearby countries. They would all be able to come back home and live and work. I don't think they are slaves lol, but I think this might be a translation error. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't speak either language. Our Ukrainian and Russian speaking forum members might be able to help clear this up. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:04:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: It's easy enough to build your own and not worry about such things. Ukraine seems to have a pretty good talent pool related to drones -and- they seem to be able to source components in bulk. Well, that otoh is true. I am to dumb to build my own, so all I can use are the DJI's ( but not the ones with the newest firmware ;) |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:06:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Are the Patriot systems active yet? It would be awesome if it got a SU-34 kill right out of the gate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is actually extremely interesting. It's 15 miles behind the lines and UA claims it as an SU-34 shot down. You can see the two straight contrails which I'd suggest may be outgoing Russian missiles. You can see the incoming SAM contrail, the hit, and what may be another incoming or another SU. Excellent find! Better video: https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1631636620007952385?s=20 More Su-34 keychains please.
This would indicate a big SAM unit, the plane was higher up as well when it was hit too. I don't think so based on the public information out there. Supposedly soon, and Ukraine said they would have some capabilities that they would use first, then later mention they got as aid. My guess is if Ukraine has a larger SAM system closer to the front, they probably got some extra systems which allowed them to push these legacy systems closer to the front. It could still be a friendly fire incident too.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:13:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd675: I wish they wouldn’t have shown they take off location. That’s confirmation for security forces on how the attack was completed and steps taken to counter it. These little drones are going to be a serious asymmetric challenge for everyone. That part may be more effective then the drone. How many men would it take away from other areas to many the fences at huge airfields? Or would they concentrate aircraft in fewer fields making better missiles target? Or move them further from the front increasing flight time, detection and wear and fuel use. Classic partisan tactics. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:13:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Going from his earlier posts, I don't know his political ideas, but with the translation I think he means that if they fight and win against Russia, they wouldn't have to have so many of their countries population having to live in nearby countries. They would all be able to come back home and live and work. I don't think they are slaves lol, but I think this might be a translation error. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't speak either language. Our Ukrainian and Russian speaking forum members might be able to help clear this up.
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:15:19 AM EST
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Crash site wreckage film.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:15:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: What you said seems like an extremely likely scenario. Depressingly so. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kagetora: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Kagetora: I really wish that would be so, but what I fear would happen is the person calmly typing anti-Ukraine BS into their phone would end up on some godforsaken rant about one of the ridiculous talking points regurgitated by the media and Twit/Face/Snap/Bookagram. --Accountability! --Fake News! --Corruption! --Denazification! --Globohomo! --Fuck Everyone Involved! Fuck Nato! Fuck Ukraine! Fuck Russia! I don't think that would help Oksana much, but, frankly...I'd expect it to happen. I'm getting very discouraged with the "conservatives" in my neck of the woods. Several people I know personally do nothing but regurgitate Russian talking points on social media. I've cut quite a few people out of my life based on it. Talking to them, trying to reason with them, offering up reasonable arguments...none of it leads anywhere. I've gotten pretty tired of it, on top of my health issues and a variety of other life things going on. Instead, I think I'll just make an effort to be positive where I can, make sure to let people like Oksana know that some of us aren't fucking retarded, and keep writing my representatives to hopefully make sure aid continues to flow. Contribute what I can. I swear to all the gods anyone believes in, I literally had a conversation today where someone made the remark that Ukraine used to be part of Russia so they deserved to have it back and we shouldn't interfere. When I argued contrary to that, the rebuttal was "So, you'd support Texas seceding from the Union then?" I was like...holy fuck. My responses were "Ah, so you'd have supported Britain in 1812, and don't tell me for one fucking second that you wouldn't pee yourself with excitement if California broke away and took it's Electoral College votes with it." Silence. Tomorrow, that same person will start parroting more anti-Ukraine propaganda. It's a losing battle against smooth-brained people on the left-half of the bell curve, and I'm rapidly lacking the energy to fight it. What you said seems like an extremely likely scenario. Depressingly so. Common sense stuff we can and should be sending are things like the stocks of cluster munitions we still have sitting around earmarked for eventual destruction. Ukraine even requested them. It costs us almost nothing to send them, far less than demilling them. There should be better discussion on where that money is moving to help fiscal conservatives understand it may go to Ukraine, but is earmarked to buy US goods, so the money immediately returns to a U.S. company and U.S. trickles down to citizens in the form of wages all the while getting the fuck taxed out of it by government. That’s not even discounting the accounting games of sending fit example a twenty year old Bradley. Government is going to claim replacement value to show how supportive we are to other nations, but reality is depreciation really cuts into the real value of that machine. Our debt is a national security issue, but the rest of the nations are still far worse off than us. It’s the only thing propping us up. There is still much that can be done to strengthen the USD, it might cause pain domestically short term but crushing challengers like BRICCs is worth it long term IMO. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:15:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paraflare: Pull out of bakhmut. Use as jdam testing ground. Fucking Wagner pigs. EDIT: It's a haiku! Ukraine funding in Omnibus bill. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:18:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337:  Pretty Russia biassed site there. - Rodger Waters: US warmongers. - Americans on Ukrainian/CIA kill list. Tell you what I gleaned from that page. I can get up to $10K in free silver!  |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:19:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: ETA, beat by Jack, it all looks the same anymore Attack footage is basically what we’d already seen- landed carefully and then blew up. Seems like the “counting coup” video was just proving they could do it, because it is so very unbelievable. Russian TG has also said similar, largely just throwing up its hands and muttering a drunken WTF.
Likely relatively small fragmentation devices targeted key components I'm guessing those key components are becoming more and more difficult to repair/replace. Although I'm wondering if the radome might have been a better mission kill structure than the satcom, but maybe the satcom is more key to the operational capabilities of the aircraft and its systems. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:22:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Like I said before (I think in this thread), I remember this place in 2008 when Russia invaded Georgia. Georgian flags in avatars and locations galore. I honestly don't remember a single poster being on the pro-Russian side. If there were any they we're rightfully afraid to voice it with Ed Sr around. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By OBird: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By OBird: It’s pure tribalism. The “establishment” (or whatever) supports Ukraine? Well then I’m supporting Russia! And I’ll find whatever “sources” fit my conclusion to support my..,conclusion! When Trump was being impeached, everyone was criticizing Obama for only sending blankets and MREs, instead of lethal aid. If Trump was in the White House right now, doing the exact same things Biden is doing, GD would look a lot different. Everyone would be lauding him (rightfully so), for getting Europe to donate weapons and defeating Russia without shedding American blood. He’d a be a genius. And the leftist code pink types would be a lot more vocal against the war too, I bet. It’s all so frustratingly predictable. Go away. @borderpatrol I’ve seen enough of your posts in here to be fairly certain we’re on the same page here…I respectfully suggest you either mis-quoted, or mis-interpreted something here I was piggybacking off the post I quoted: the first paragraph is sarcasm; trying to describe the thought process of Putin puffers in GD. The rest should be self-evidently critical of them. Basically suggesting that the only reason there is so much Russia support in GD, is that it’s pure contrarianism, and not based in any sound logic. I truly do think that if they didn’t have the “need” to be opposite of Biden (or “the establishment” or whatever) in every matter, the vast majority of GD would be supporting Ukraine. It’s just a sad reflection on the tribalism of American politics that they aren’t. Like I said before (I think in this thread), I remember this place in 2008 when Russia invaded Georgia. Georgian flags in avatars and locations galore. I honestly don't remember a single poster being on the pro-Russian side. If there were any they we're rightfully afraid to voice it with Ed Sr around. EXACTLY!! The mental gymnastics are mind-boggling. Really kind of depressing when you think about it. 
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:24:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Likely relatively small fragmentation devices targeted key components I'm guessing those key components are becoming more and more difficult to repair/replace. Although I'm wondering if the radome might have been a better mission kill structure than the satcom, but maybe the satcom is more key to the operational capabilities of the aircraft and its systems. Makes you wonder what the Ukranians know about these systems. Maybe decided the sat link was a better target for whatever reason. Or the radome was more easily replaceable/repairable. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:25:53 AM EST
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 Aussie company SYPAQ develops cardboard drones for defence of Ukraine | 7NEWS |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:26:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: That part may be more effective then the drone. How many men would it take away from other areas to many the fences at huge airfields? Or would they concentrate aircraft in fewer fields making better missiles target? Or move them further from the front increasing flight time, detection and wear and fuel use. Classic partisan tactics. I get what you are saying but Russia has very limited AWACS aircraft, and they must split them among several theaters. Being able to repeat this hurts them more than tossing a few thousand mobliks around the perimeter especially if Ukraine were to get western fighters in the future. It might have been better not to say anything at all because the Russian incompetence might have the base commander try to sweep it under the rug than risk the embarrassment. You could always publish it later. Maybe they did and there’s limited future opportunities, but time will tell. |
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Posted: 3/3/2023 11:29:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: But but but europe needs to do more Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By m35ben: Some countries are giving what they can and more. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/390973/FqTBPGtWwAAc9IS-2732005.jpg But but but europe needs to do more They do need to do more. If you have a monster like Russia on your doorstep, you should have a bigger defense budget. Maybe be more efficient societies. |
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