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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:25:48 PM EST
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 Ceška na Ukrajine: Na fronte je to horší a krvavejší, slepuju táty od rodin, aby vubec prežili 21y old Czech girl who volunteers as frontline medic in Ukraine. (subtitles dont work unfortunately) |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:28:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: MarineGrunt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: How do you ID as American? Seriously, they weren't speaking English were they? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Prime: I’m not sure this is accurate, but both sides sure are talking about it.
Good article out of Bulgaria. https://bulgarianmilitary.com/amp/2023/04/11/f-16-fighter-pilots-are-welcome-to-fight-su-27-or-su-35-ukraine A modern day "Flying Tigers" would be epic. Or maybe find out what the Russians called their unit flying Mig 15 during the Korean war and name our unit the same... Photoshop paint job, or video game? Not the first time I have seen a picture of an F-16 painted in Ukrainian camo. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/F-16s-painted-over-with-Ukrainian-insign-2778621.JPG They showed Ukrainians doing time in A10's on a recent warthog vid. Not sure if real, but was interesting. Fake. The pilot was easily identifiable as being American. UK is absolutely not getting A10s. How do you ID as American? Seriously, they weren't speaking English were they? Air Combat Command patch on the right chest, USAF unit (didn’t recognize unit) nametag, USAF 1LT rank. Not to mention I’ve been a USAF pilot for 19 years. I know what we look like.  |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:30:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Air Combat Command patch on the right chest, USAF unit (didn’t recognize unit) nametag, USAF 1LT rank. Not to mention I’ve been a USAF pilot for 19 years. I know what we look like. They can't wear other's flightsuit? They were not speaking english |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:31:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: mokerr]
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The video is on Telegram. Extremely difficult to watch. It takes a full 90 seconds for the poor guys head to be cut off. He's alive for the first 15 seconds or so. It is absolutely real though
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:37:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: They can't wear other's flightsuit? They were not speaking english Maybe we didn’t see the same video? I didn’t listen with the sound on… I’ve never encountered a foreign exchange pilot other than in UPT. They wore mostly US patches, but not rank. I’ll try to dig up the link of the video I saw and can have a Ukrainian friend translate if they’re in fact speaking Ukrainian. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:39:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: EasTexan]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Lcacs, air assault, and create a beachhead. Fixing to make amphibious assault cool again Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By apr67: Isn't that why you build these things though? So the enemy chooses the paths you leave open? Lcacs, air assault, and create a beachhead. Fixing to make amphibious assault cool again Ukraine doesn’t have amphibious assault capabilities? |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:43:44 PM EST
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Blurred video but damn. Fuck Russians.
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:45:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: absael]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: The video is on Telegram. Extremely difficult to watch. It takes a full 90 seconds for the poor guys head to be cut off. He's alive for the first 15 seconds or so. It is absolutely real though I guess I kind of understand the frog-boiling, bleed-them-as-dry-as-possible concept, and I think there may be far more involved in this than I'll ever be aware of. But it's fucking sickening what Ukraine is being put through  . Fuck Russia. 
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:47:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Maybe we didn’t see the same video? I didn’t listen with the sound on… I’ve never encountered a foreign exchange pilot other than in UPT. They wore mostly US patches, but not rank. I’ll try to dig up the link of the video I saw and can have a Ukrainian friend translate if they’re in fact speaking Ukrainian. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Originally Posted By Banditman: They can't wear other's flightsuit? They were not speaking english Maybe we didn’t see the same video? I didn’t listen with the sound on… I’ve never encountered a foreign exchange pilot other than in UPT. They wore mostly US patches, but not rank. I’ll try to dig up the link of the video I saw and can have a Ukrainian friend translate if they’re in fact speaking Ukrainian. FYI I am not arguing, just questioning and hoping |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:48:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: They can't wear other's flightsuit? They were not speaking english Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Air Combat Command patch on the right chest, USAF unit (didn’t recognize unit) nametag, USAF 1LT rank. Not to mention I’ve been a USAF pilot for 19 years. I know what we look like. They can't wear other's flightsuit? They were not speaking english Means nothing. We have a lot of troopies (at least in the Army) who speak foreign languages. The LT may have taken Ukrainian in college, may be a Monterey graduate, or maybe his mother (or father/both parents) are Ukrainian, etc. At one point when I was a Battery Commander, My First Sergeant made the observation we could invade roughly 45 countries and not need a terp! 
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:55:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Blurred video but damn. Fuck Russians.
And people claim Russia is a bastion of Christian values 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 5:55:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: FYI I am not arguing, just questioning and hoping Same. I’ve said similar things when this kicked off… “the A-10 is on its way out, she deserves a warrior’s death… send them all to Ukraine and let her die doing what God intended her to do… kill Russians.” While it’s a great tank killer, I think it’s the wrong airplane for Ukraine for a multitude of reasons. F-16s kill tanks just fine, are much much more versatile, and will be much easier to sustain long term. And I don’t even think F16s will happen until after the war either. I hope I’m wrong about all of that. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:00:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Air Combat Command patch on the right chest, USAF unit (didn’t recognize unit) nametag, USAF 1LT rank. Not to mention I’ve been a USAF pilot for 19 years. I know what we look like. Username not appropriate.
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:03:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: Cobradriver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: And people claim Russia is a bastion of Christian values Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By ludder093: Blurred video but damn. Fuck Russians.
And people claim Russia is a bastion of Christian values Fuck russia and any motherfuckin cocksucker that supports them. I'm all about the saying no kill like overkill but fuck me...don't behead your pows. That is mideast levels of asshattery. No, I'm not gonna watch the video. I'll take everybodies word about it. Once again...if you lurk in this thread and support russia...eat a fucking dick and I hope you like putins cum on your chin. I hope Ukraine jams a 155 up every russians asshole... |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:06:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: All very true. I was just wondering why the US was threatening sanctions against Orban specifically. His obstinance on Sweden=NATO? Or something else. I agree that Orban has gone 180 in the wrong direction in this war. If you like NATO but dont like doing NATO shit, it may be time to rethink. If you joined NATO because you were afraid of Russian aggression but now, afraid to help NATO because fear of...Russian aggression...then you are an idiot or a liar. an idiot, a liar, or both |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:07:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: And people claim Russia is a bastion of Christian values |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:07:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Naval bombardment is how it was done much of the time. Problem is getting a Iowa class ship that close now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By apr67: The defenses built by the Orcs in Crimea look impressive. What would be the normal way (the way the US military) would deal with that? I was thinking you would start by deploying tons of Incendiaries to the treelines behind the defense to eliminate/blind the watchers and make sure you can see where the bad guys were. You would have to do this in a large area so you don't show where you exactly are going to attack. But then again, the closest to the army I've ever been in the KISS Army. If they could find enough people to get the propulsion plant operational. When they reactivated them in the 80s they had to bring in retirees who had ratings the Navy retired years before. I don’t think there are any BTs on Active Duty anymore….one of the things they got right in that “Battleship” movie was the only people they had who knew how to light off the boilers were long retired vets in their 60s - 80s. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:14:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Blurred video but damn. Fuck Russians.
Russia needs to burn, down to the permafrost |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:14:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: Tiberius]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Any explanation as to why? Are they going to do the same for Erdogan and Turkey? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By ludder093:
Any explanation as to why? Are they going to do the same for Erdogan and Turkey? I doubt it…..as annoying as Erdogan is, he has played a key role in assisting Ukraine, not least blocking Russia from |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:18:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Russia's Duma is set to pass a law that punishes people for trying to dodge call ups for mobilization. Ha Ha, like they could drive a car, get a loan or buy property before... |
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USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:20:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: First, Turkey has a stronger negotiating position within NATO, like it or not. Second, Erdogan may be playing hardball with NATO to get what he wants, but he probably doesn’t have a dog in the hunt. Third, Turkey has been actively helping with munitions. Orban has been withholding munitions and making life hard within the EU. He may, and I stress may, have a dog in the hunt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By ludder093:
Any explanation as to why? Are they going to do the same for Erdogan and Turkey? First, Turkey has a stronger negotiating position within NATO, like it or not. Second, Erdogan may be playing hardball with NATO to get what he wants, but he probably doesn’t have a dog in the hunt. Third, Turkey has been actively helping with munitions. Orban has been withholding munitions and making life hard within the EU. He may, and I stress may, have a dog in the hunt. In the end, Russia destroying Ukraine is not in Turkey’s interests. That’s why Erdogan is helping Ukraine while doing just enough for Russia so that they can’t afford to do anything about it. I’m sure Putin is privately seething at him. With that said, he’s still an asshole. Just a lot smarter that Putin. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:22:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I appreciate their energy and conservative social values, but getting into bed with Russia for that energy is hypocritical. All the bad liberal thinking in the West came from Russia. Political correctness is a Russian invention. They really need to recalibrate their values meter. What country has prospered with Russia as a strategic partner? And Orban doesn't see how that partnership could put him in a bind with NATO? Or that Russia would use that dependence to subvert control in Hungary like they did in Germany. Link up with Russia and you will get plenty of globohomo politics. I don't know more about this then what I've read online. I think what you say is already the reality as Russia does have an oversized influence on the EU energy market. Pretty much all the other Eastern European countries still buy energy from Russia. Slovakia, Czechia, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugo, even the Baltics, including Finland. So there is nothing unique about Hungary's energy situation. If they could buy from someone else for comparable terms, I think they would. Hence why they want to build the nuclear power plant. From what I see, they haven't really done anything to cross US interests. They also take in a lot of refugees from Ukraine. They just don't want to completely burn bridges with Russia either. Now both the US and Russia hate them for that, LOL. https://news.yahoo.com/russia-puts-hungary-unfriendly-countries-123500975.html |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:25:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tiberius: If they could find enough people to get the propulsion plant operational. When they reactivated them in the 80s they had to bring in retirees who had ratings the Navy retired years before. I don't think there are any BTs on Active Duty anymore .one of the things they got right in that "Battleship" movie was the only people they had who knew how to light off the boilers were long retired vets in their 60s - 80s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By apr67: The defenses built by the Orcs in Crimea look impressive. What would be the normal way (the way the US military) would deal with that? I was thinking you would start by deploying tons of Incendiaries to the treelines behind the defense to eliminate/blind the watchers and make sure you can see where the bad guys were. You would have to do this in a large area so you don't show where you exactly are going to attack. But then again, the closest to the army I've ever been in the KISS Army. If they could find enough people to get the propulsion plant operational. When they reactivated them in the 80s they had to bring in retirees who had ratings the Navy retired years before. I don't think there are any BTs on Active Duty anymore .one of the things they got right in that "Battleship" movie was the only people they had who knew how to light off the boilers were long retired vets in their 60s - 80s. Check out the Battleship New Jersey YouTube channel. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:25:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maddmatt: They could form some sorta "Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance"? Sign it somewhere historically significant, I hear Warsaw is nice? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maddmatt: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By CMOS: Which begs the question: How do they pay for F35's!? CMOS I dont know. Maybe they are only getting 2, leased, or like a "time share" between them and Slovakia? They could do like the Nordic countries have done and go in with neighbors to create a combined air defense. Even a few F35s gives them the ability to train more pilots, just case, and gather a lot of electronic intel. They could form some sorta "Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance"? Sign it somewhere historically significant, I hear Warsaw is nice? Pilsudski’s stillborn Intermarium project. Duda has been trying to make it happen since he came to power. Thanks to Putin, he may well realize his dream, at least in the form of a close alliance. The irony of calling it the Warsaw Pact would be delicious. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:25:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: MarineGrunt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Username not appropriate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ayada: Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Air Combat Command patch on the right chest, USAF unit (didn’t recognize unit) nametag, USAF 1LT rank. Not to mention I’ve been a USAF pilot for 19 years. I know what we look like. Username not appropriate. Ha. That was lifetimes ago it seems…. If I could change it to USAF K11M3F without losing my join date, I might just change it.. Nah, fuck that. lol Edit- one more thing about the “Ukrainians training on A10 video…” I thought about it and it’s definitely fake. Not just for the reasons I mentioned earlier, but if they were in fact training here (or anywhere actually), they would be speaking English, not Ukrainian. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:29:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: QFT. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By m35ben: I get the frustration. Its part of the plan to frustrate us all. What the useful pawns are doing is by design. They want us mad enough to play their game and get banned and silenced. Keep your wits and don't try to defeat all of them in one swing. QFT. It is actually pretty simple - "What you said is dumb as fuck" = ok, "You're dumb as fuck" = don't say that. Or, "your statement is morally repugnant" not "you're an asshole". |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:29:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: All very true. I was just wondering why the US was threatening sanctions against Orban specifically. His obstinance on Sweden=NATO? Or something else. I agree that Orban has gone 180 in the wrong direction in this war. If you like NATO but dont like doing NATO shit, it may be time to rethink. If you joined NATO because you were afraid of Russian aggression but now, afraid to help NATO because fear of...Russian aggression...then you are an idiot or a liar. Is he afraid or he doesn't want to piss away resources and then have to deal with the reality Russia is still standing and the EU has to trade with them? |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:29:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093:
This entire venture was based on theft, natural gas theft, income tax theft, farming theft, salt and mineral theft. The idea that Russia was going to liberate Ukraine, was that they meant to liberate Ukraine from its natural resources and land. The people could stay if they cooperated, dead if they don't. Russia needs to suffer accordingly. When you go all in and lose, you lose it all. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:31:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FtceeA9WcAAE9XQ?format=jpg&name=small That's a great admission regarding their truth |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:33:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Prime Minister
Lolololololol They painted emojis on the side of their plane. Le Reddit moment. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:35:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Same. I’ve said similar things when this kicked off… “the A-10 is on its way out, she deserves a warrior’s death… send them all to Ukraine and let her die doing what God intended her to do… kill Russians.” While it’s a great tank killer, I think it’s the wrong airplane for Ukraine for a multitude of reasons. F-16s kill tanks just fine, are much much more versatile, and will be much easier to sustain long term. And I don’t even think F16s will happen until after the war either. I hope I’m wrong about all of that. In true Arf.com fashion, send both! |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:36:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: I don't think he's a sympathizer, and he's using LP's own sources. He does point out the issues with the T-14 at the end. An accurate honest assessment is critical to evaluate what we can do to counter it, or if it neven needs to be countered at all and our resources are better spent elsewhere. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By wildturkey09: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: If anyone saw Lazerpig's video on the T-14 Armata, this is a rebuttal pointing out some inaccuracies in it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyWAd1pQiwUIf Russian shit was half as good as this guy claims you would think thay they would be doing better than they are. I'm watching the video and reading the comments and he's relying alot on official Russian propaganda. But what do you expect from a channel named "RED Effect." Not saying that LazerPig is right on everything but this smells like Russian bullshit to me. An accurate honest assessment is critical to evaluate what we can do to counter it, or if it neven needs to be countered at all and our resources are better spent elsewhere. If course he is a sympathizer. Take a look at how he handled the T-14 breakdown in the Mayday Parade. He waives it off saying someone just left the parking brake on and expects us to believe that the best of the best are going are going to forget a simple brake while mounting a recovery operation. He expect us to believe it's just drive off all on its own without any evidence. Let say that's even the case that what he is telling us is true. He then points out how a Ukrainian tank did the same thing like it has anything to do with the discussion. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:37:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prolapsed_cranium: Lolololololol They painted emojis on the side of their plane. Le Reddit moment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prolapsed_cranium: Originally Posted By Prime: Prime Minister
Lolololololol They painted emojis on the side of their plane. Le Reddit moment. Another refugee from /pol/ goes my ignore list. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:38:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: The time it would take to get one of those operational would measured in years. Check out the Battleship New Jersey YouTube channel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By Tiberius: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By apr67: The defenses built by the Orcs in Crimea look impressive. What would be the normal way (the way the US military) would deal with that? I was thinking you would start by deploying tons of Incendiaries to the treelines behind the defense to eliminate/blind the watchers and make sure you can see where the bad guys were. You would have to do this in a large area so you don't show where you exactly are going to attack. But then again, the closest to the army I've ever been in the KISS Army. If they could find enough people to get the propulsion plant operational. When they reactivated them in the 80s they had to bring in retirees who had ratings the Navy retired years before. I don't think there are any BTs on Active Duty anymore .one of the things they got right in that "Battleship" movie was the only people they had who knew how to light off the boilers were long retired vets in their 60s - 80s. Check out the Battleship New Jersey YouTube channel. Yes. Even if they were willing to devote the near prohibitive amount of resources to get them seaworthy and support them properly….last time they relied on spares scavenged from Alabama, Massachusetts and North Carolina…..then they would have to bring in retirees to operate them and teach the kids the skills only they know. TL/DR - It ain’t happening. I just chose to highlight the other reason why not. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:42:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: AROKIE]
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:44:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Where in OK are you? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By AROKIE: I want a brass 152 shell so bad! Where in OK are you? @fadedsun Southern Oklahoma Carter county |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:45:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: Ha. That was lifetimes ago it seems…. If I could change it to USAF K11M3F without losing my join date, I might just change it.. Nah, fuck that. lol Edit- one more thing about the “Ukrainians training on A10 video…” I thought about it and it’s definitely fake. Not just for the reasons I mentioned earlier, but if they were in fact training here (or anywhere actually), they would be speaking English, not Ukrainian. To your previous point about F-16s...say just for shits and giggles they got a handful or had Flying Tigers 2.0. What would that change as far as a counteroffensive? Would it be a really nice tool in the toolbox and add wrinkles or would there be a drastic difference in what can be hit? |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:52:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: GD response will be "I'm sure Ukraine is doing the same thing" Already is. Justifying it like, "I am sure Ukraine is doing it to" |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:53:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Another refugee from /pol/ goes my ignore list. The fact you can't recognize this as nonsense virtue signaling is on you, my man. Make sure you ignore the failures of the mighty "counter offensive".....assuming the AFU still does it |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:53:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: This entire venture was based on theft, natural gas theft, income tax theft, farming theft, salt and mineral theft. The idea that Russia was going to liberate Ukraine, was that they meant to liberate Ukraine from its natural resources and land. The people could stay if they cooperated, dead if they don't. Russia needs to suffer accordingly. When you go all in and lose, you lose it all. Yeah they're trying the erase the whole identity of Ukraine. They keep coming back to this. Like making speaking Ukrainian illegal under the Soviet Union. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:56:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: DisturbedCrime]
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Originally Posted By Capta: First, Turkey has a stronger negotiating position within NATO, like it or not. Second, Erdogan may be playing hardball with NATO to get what he wants, but he probably doesn’t have a dog in the hunt. Third, Turkey has been actively helping with munitions. Orban has been withholding munitions and making life hard within the EU. He may, and I stress may, have a dog in the hunt. Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: All very true. I was just wondering why the US was threatening sanctions against Orban specifically. His obstinance on Sweden=NATO? Or something else. I agree that Orban has gone 180 in the wrong direction in this war. If you like NATO but dont like doing NATO shit, it may be time to rethink. If you joined NATO because you were afraid of Russian aggression but now, afraid to help NATO because fear of...Russian aggression...then you are an idiot or a liar. As much as Erdogan is a pain in the ass and not totally aligned with western thought, Bayraktar has been the biggest supporter of the war so far drone-wise, at least from what I've seen. He's coming up on an election year, and the whole thing with Sweden and the Kurdish "terrorists" are a thorn in his side. It's also further complicated by the fact that he's got a lot of dissidence on his hands with the earthquake and what not. Who knows what's coming. It's going to be quite chaotic I would say. Orban is just an ass with Putin's chode shoved firmly into his cheek. I feel like NATO and co. will deal with them at some point. And the only significance Hungary has at the moment is NATO membership, otherwise their arms don't mean shit. Most of the western world is backing Ukraine (finally) now. This is just me spitballing, so no expert qualifications here except for backseat observation. Edit: wrong gif lol |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:56:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: The video is on Telegram. Extremely difficult to watch. It takes a full 90 seconds for the poor guys head to be cut off. He's alive for the first 15 seconds or so. It is absolutely real though Is it "regular" Russians doing it? Wagner? Can we find the unit? |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:57:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prolapsed_cranium: The fact you can't recognize this as nonsense virtue signaling is on you, my man. Make sure you ignore the failures of the mighty "counter offensive".....assuming the AFU still does it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prolapsed_cranium: Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Another refugee from /pol/ goes my ignore list. The fact you can't recognize this as nonsense virtue signaling is on you, my man. Make sure you ignore the failures of the mighty "counter offensive".....assuming the AFU still does it If you've actually read this thread, you'll notice that I've been fairly pessimistic about Ukraine's odds at breaking the land bridge in the near future. But, that doesn't fit the caricatures and strawmans you've built up in your mind. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:58:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093:
Did Nazi that coming |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/11/2023 6:59:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: WaPo article about what the leak says about Ukraine's prospects for an offensive. Original story link. The optimist in me says, 'yeah, but Russia's military capability is so degraded that once a Ukrainian offensive breaks through, there's a significant likelihood that it would lead to a Russian collapse or rout.' Like it did around Kharkiv last year. I don't believe that Russia has real depth. They may have 400K men in Ukraine, but it's a pretty long front, and real depth of defense isn't possible along the entire length, especially when certain areas have to have significant depth, like Donetsk city. Donetsk is really close to the front, has symbolic importance, and so requires significant resources to effectively defend. That means some of the frontiers are likely to be fairly thin. My feeling is that Russia is iron; very hard, very sturdy, very strong, but very brittle. Work is getting busier. I'm down to maybe one in seven or eight pages of this thread, except weekends.  This has been one of my fears too reading this info, I want to be optimistic but there is a lot of Russians in that country to fight/kill. |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:02:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: mokerr]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Is it "regular" Russians doing it? Wagner? Can we find the unit? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By mokerr: The video is on Telegram. Extremely difficult to watch. It takes a full 90 seconds for the poor guys head to be cut off. He's alive for the first 15 seconds or so. It is absolutely real though Is it "regular" Russians doing it? Wagner? Can we find the unit? The only identifying thing I saw was white bands on their legs if that indicates anyone in particular. But I'm not an expert on kit like some. From my untrained eye it looks like the murderer is wearing multicam. Not sure if Russia has some kind of knock off.  Attached FileHere's an image i took from the video. Possibly tape on their unit patches as well? |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:02:32 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By prolapsed_cranium: The fact you can't recognize this as nonsense virtue signaling is on you, my man. Make sure you ignore the failures of the mighty "counter offensive".....assuming the AFU still does it  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:04:37 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: I've been in a few but can only tolerate it for so long. It is actually pretty simple - "What you said is dumb as fuck" = ok, "You're dumb as fuck" = don't say that. Or, "your statement is morally repugnant" not "you're an asshole". |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:11:04 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: To your previous point about F-16s...say just for shits and giggles they got a handful or had Flying Tigers 2.0. What would that change as far as a counteroffensive? Would it be a really nice tool in the toolbox and add wrinkles or would there be a drastic difference in what can be hit? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: Originally Posted By MarineGrunt: Ha. That was lifetimes ago it seems…. If I could change it to USAF K11M3F without losing my join date, I might just change it.. Nah, fuck that. lol Edit- one more thing about the “Ukrainians training on A10 video…” I thought about it and it’s definitely fake. Not just for the reasons I mentioned earlier, but if they were in fact training here (or anywhere actually), they would be speaking English, not Ukrainian. To your previous point about F-16s...say just for shits and giggles they got a handful or had Flying Tigers 2.0. What would that change as far as a counteroffensive? Would it be a really nice tool in the toolbox and add wrinkles or would there be a drastic difference in what can be hit? Short answer, no. Eastern Ukrainian airspace will be contested throughout the war, due to long range air defenses inside Russia and Belarus. That won’t change until hostilities cease. If it weren’t for that, to entertain your scenario, I don’t think the strike capability would make much difference in the grand scheme of things. I instead would use the F16 in the SEAD role and leave CAS to the Su25 and rotor wing assets. But then again, I’m a tanker guy and don’t know shit. The problem with getting Ukraine F16s or any new jets in general is not the pilots or the planes themselves, it’s the logistical monstrosity that goes along with it. Maintainers, parts, tooling, AGE, the list goes on and on. It would be very VERY difficult to set up a successful program in the middle of a conflict. Possible? I guess, but considering that the impact would be somewhat negligible even if it was a success, you could get much more juice from the squeeze elsewhere. Ukraine will definitely get western aircraft, but unfortunately I don’t think it will be until after the war. I will be very happy to be wrong and eat crow! |
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Posted: 4/11/2023 7:13:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/114465/4DC54137-0E3E-483A-8D14-C46ED64E91BD-250-2778980.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By prolapsed_cranium: The fact you can't recognize this as nonsense virtue signaling is on you, my man. Make sure you ignore the failures of the mighty "counter offensive".....assuming the AFU still does it  Attached File |
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