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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:00:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuRva-jWYAYXX4s?format=jpg&name=large Leopards and M113s
“Chaklun” drone demo. From two months ago, but I don’t remember it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkU-HM2Vw84https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/europe-war-russia-postimperial-empire https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2023/0421/Pentagon-leaks-Ukrainians-more-focused-on-must-win-battle https://www.csis.org/analysis/europes-missing-piece-case-air-domain-enablers These HMMWV with the extra windows in the doors are interesting to me, I have never seen them before, but it does address one of the (many) deficiencies of that vehicle. Any HMMWV nerds who can tell us more about this particular model? I see the deep fording snorkel as well, but not sure if that means anything definitive? |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:01:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: qft Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By Hate_Work: I don't deny what you or anyone else has to say, negatively about Russia. But to put it into context, does anyone really expect most the people of the US to stand up to the Government machine? They haven't so far and keep on just being lemmings. Russia is just a few decades ahead of the US. And at the rate at which the world spins now, I wonder how long before I will need to move from the Washington DC area (family is all here), to somewhere more conservative, or to take up arms if the entire nations turns to shit and I am defending my family from the roaches from the cities. But back to Russia. Don't many of the people just want to be left alone and live their life? Christ, they don't even have the means to stand up to their government. Just like the Dem's dream in the US. qft @Hate_Work check out my thread on a dude that got raided for 3d printing in nyc. Thread. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:03:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GTLandser]
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Also, not sure if it has been covered before, but the origins of the terms "Zinky boys" and the "Black Tulip" from the Soviet-Afghan War. Also, an interesting angle about the societal effect of calling KIA "Cargo 200"; I think this is just a further example of the dehumanization of Russian society.
 I guess this time around the Ruzzians aren't even bothering with many KIA evacuations...too expensive for the condolence payments, and apparently mainly designed to dispose of criminals and diseased people, so better that they get turned into fertilizer on Ukrainian soil.   Why No Russian Soldier Wants to Fly On This Plane |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:05:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: https://i.redd.it/2d6zcbpbd8va1.jpg https://i.redd.it/sclt22tbcbva1.jpg 
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:13:25 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for April 21st.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-21-2023 |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:18:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy.  This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” Nothing will help other than a dramatic example. 
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:40:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Nothing will help other than a dramatic example. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/mistakesdemotivator.jpeg?v=1554328460 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” Nothing will help other than a dramatic example. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/mistakesdemotivator.jpeg?v=1554328460 YES. And ain’t that sad? As human beings capable of symbolic thought, we’re able to learn things without doing them. But alas, we need to go thru the suffering of leftist rule or see someone else get punished to actually make better decisions. It’s the cycle of hard men making good times which makes, ultimately, bad times again. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:55:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ryan_Ruck]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: These HMMWV with the extra windows in the doors are interesting to me, I have never seen them before, but it does address one of the (many) deficiencies of that vehicle. Any HMMWV nerds who can tell us more about this particular model? I see the deep fording snorkel as well, but not sure if that means anything definitive? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuRva-jWYAYXX4s?format=jpg&name=large Leopards and M113s
“Chaklun” drone demo. From two months ago, but I don’t remember it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkU-HM2Vw84https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/europe-war-russia-postimperial-empire https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2023/0421/Pentagon-leaks-Ukrainians-more-focused-on-must-win-battle https://www.csis.org/analysis/europes-missing-piece-case-air-domain-enablers These HMMWV with the extra windows in the doors are interesting to me, I have never seen them before, but it does address one of the (many) deficiencies of that vehicle. Any HMMWV nerds who can tell us more about this particular model? I see the deep fording snorkel as well, but not sure if that means anything definitive? M1114, a bit of a bastard model. Was transitional between the no/light armor M10XX trucks (which they had to make add on armor for) and the later M115X/M116X trucks which had it integrated. Something looks off about the snorkel, doesn't look factory.  Attached FileETA: The one in the video Ben shared with the M1165A1 is actually one of the newest models and not on that chart. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 9:59:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boedy: As a 6 PFC Lol moving holes, I still remember my first extra duty after a article 15. My first sergeant told me to move that hole over there and I didn’t understand what he was saying, at first. I got good at hole digging that weekend łol Same experience, although my initiation was as a cadet. The first time I was told to move my hole "over there in the treeline" I was like WTF? So I got the instructions Barney style, and took off with my E tool to the treeline, only to be stopped and informed that I was truly stupid and had to fill in the first hole. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:08:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” A picture of him swinging from a yardarm would be more effective communications. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:12:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m24shooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy. "The additional information raises questions about why authorities did not discover the leaks sooner, particularly since hundreds more people would have been able to see the posts." Well, probably because our intelligence and security apparatus as well as our national capabilities were focused on PTA groups, right-wing extremists, garage pulls, and domestic terrorists. You know, the real threat. ETA: Also, the 80s called and they want their foreign policy back. You fukn schmuck. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:48:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” That kid ain’t going to see the light of day for the rest of his life. He’s going to be made an example of….and he didn’t care. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 10:55:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: That kid ain’t going to see the light of day for the rest of his life. He’s going to be made an example of….and he didn’t care. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” That kid ain’t going to see the light of day for the rest of his life. He’s going to be made an example of….and he didn’t care. Full YOLO for internet clout. Not the first time and sadly not the last time thats the motive for something heinous & retarded. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:07:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: "Remember like EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE" |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:29:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hate_Work: I don't deny what you or anyone else has to say, negatively about Russia. But to put it into context, does anyone really expect most the people of the US to stand up to the Government machine? They haven't so far and keep on just being lemmings. Russia is just a few decades ahead of the US. And at the rate at which the world spins now, I wonder how long before I will need to move from the Washington DC area (family is all here), to somewhere more conservative, or to take up arms if the entire nations turns to shit and I am defending my family from the roaches from the cities. But back to Russia. Don't many of the people just want to be left alone and live their life? Christ, they don't even have the means to stand up to their government. Just like the Dem's dream in the US. I believe that if there is some kind of disturbance most americans will allow the government to do just about anything to stomp the trouble makers and get things back to normal. The government only has to label the troublemakers as something distasteful to get the population to support the government against them. A word that begins with terroris comes to mind. And if I'm not mistaken, the government already has some fairly new laws that gives them massive power and authority to deal specifically with those people. Easy-peasy. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:34:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Full YOLO for internet clout. Not the first time and sadly not the last time thats the motive for something heinous & retarded. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” That kid ain’t going to see the light of day for the rest of his life. He’s going to be made an example of….and he didn’t care. Full YOLO for internet clout. Not the first time and sadly not the last time thats the motive for something heinous & retarded. I personally think this guy had some kind of daydream that he was going to be the leader of a new group/generation of men who get back on the road of what America is supposed to be. Or something like that. I'll be interested to see if I'm right, in like 30 years when they allow him to talk to somebody to tell his story, if his communications with anybody is ever declassified. Ever. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:37:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: hang him as a spy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: "Remember like EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE" Seriously it needs to happen, we have been way to soft on leakers and fuck ups with security clearences. so called "whistle blowers" and such. the being soft on leakers has hurt us and allowed others to do it. An example needs to be made right now to stem any further leaks. hang him and let future fuck ups think about it next time they want to look cool on the internet chat room. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:38:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I personally think this guy had some kind of daydream that he was going to be the leader of a new group/generation of men who get back on the road of what America is supposed to be. Or something like that. I'll be interested to see if I'm right, in like 30 years when they allow him to talk to somebody to tell his story, if his communications with anybody is ever declassified. Ever. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” That kid ain’t going to see the light of day for the rest of his life. He’s going to be made an example of….and he didn’t care. Full YOLO for internet clout. Not the first time and sadly not the last time thats the motive for something heinous & retarded. I personally think this guy had some kind of daydream that he was going to be the leader of a new group/generation of men who get back on the road of what America is supposed to be. Or something like that. I'll be interested to see if I'm right, in like 30 years when they allow him to talk to somebody to tell his story, if his communications with anybody is ever declassified. Ever. He does not need to be alive in 30 years, like others have said he needs to be executed for treason. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Somehow I don't think Japan will sit on the sidelines like Poland is doing if china goes hot on Taiwan. Hear the Philippines said no to any us weaponry against china today, so that's a significant change. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 11:58:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Somehow I don't think Japan will sit on the sidelines like Poland is doing if china goes hot on Taiwan. Hear the Philippines said no to any us weaponry against china today, so that's a significant change. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By Prime:
Somehow I don't think Japan will sit on the sidelines like Poland is doing if china goes hot on Taiwan. Hear the Philippines said no to any us weaponry against china today, so that's a significant change. what do you mean "like Poland is doing"??? Poland is damn sure not sitting on the sidelines when it comes to russian invading Ukraine... you are completely wrong with that assumption |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:02:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Somehow I don't think Japan will sit on the sidelines like Poland is doing if china goes hot on Taiwan. Hear the Philippines said no to any us weaponry against china today, so that's a significant change. Taiwan has to deal with significant illegal immigration issues from the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia and mainland China who sneak into the country or overstay their work visas. A lot of the menial jobs(basic mfg jobs in factories, housekeeping, elder caregivers etc.) in Taiwan are done by SE Asian migrant workers on work visas. I would occasionally see on Taiwanese news when I stay there that their Immigration service would bust another human trafficking ring bringing in SE Asians. In a lot of ways, it mirrors what we deal with here with illegal immigrants. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:06:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: what do you mean "like Poland is doing"??? Poland is damn sure not sitting on the sidelines when it comes to russian invading Ukraine... you are completely wrong with that assumption Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By Prime:
Somehow I don't think Japan will sit on the sidelines like Poland is doing if china goes hot on Taiwan. Hear the Philippines said no to any us weaponry against china today, so that's a significant change. what do you mean "like Poland is doing"??? Poland is damn sure not sitting on the sidelines when it comes to russian invading Ukraine... you are completely wrong with that assumption Poland can't go in because it would break NATO when they call article five when the Russians attack them. They have given the most material out of all the European nations but they aren't.marchinf their military across the border. Japan will come to the defence of Taiwan with their navy. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:15:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I personally think this guy had some kind of daydream that he was going to be the leader of a new group/generation of men who get back on the road of what America is supposed to be. Or something like that. I'll be interested to see if I'm right, in like 30 years when they allow him to talk to somebody to tell his story, if his communications with anybody is ever declassified. Ever. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Freiheit8472: Originally Posted By HIPPO: been offline for a bit, but thought this was worth sharing…this fucking guy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/E507BAB1-E3AA-429A-94D5-C710F7E723CF-2791316.jpg This fucking guy indeed. Stern emails and memos are already going around to every single person with a clearance. Essentially saying: “Remember like…EVERYTHING YOU WERE EVER TOLD ABOUT HAVING A FUCKING CLEARANCE” That kid ain’t going to see the light of day for the rest of his life. He’s going to be made an example of….and he didn’t care. Full YOLO for internet clout. Not the first time and sadly not the last time thats the motive for something heinous & retarded. I personally think this guy had some kind of daydream that he was going to be the leader of a new group/generation of men who get back on the road of what America is supposed to be. Or something like that. I'll be interested to see if I'm right, in like 30 years when they allow him to talk to somebody to tell his story, if his communications with anybody is ever declassified. Ever. The background on him makes him sound like an otherwise squared away young man. Except he was retarded if he thought he could distribute TS papers to hundreds of people and not end up in prison for a long time. If it is sent electronically it is not secret and you have lost control of its final destinations. A secret can only be kept among three people if two of them are dead. …and none of them had cell phones, tablets, laptops or family or friends or myna birds. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:21:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:29:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AROKIE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Poland can't go in because it would break NATO when they call article five when the Russians attack them. They have given the most material out of all the European nations but they aren't.marchinf their military across the border. Japan will come to the defence of Taiwan with their navy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By Prime:
Somehow I don't think Japan will sit on the sidelines like Poland is doing if china goes hot on Taiwan. Hear the Philippines said no to any us weaponry against china today, so that's a significant change. what do you mean "like Poland is doing"??? Poland is damn sure not sitting on the sidelines when it comes to russian invading Ukraine... you are completely wrong with that assumption Poland can't go in because it would break NATO when they call article five when the Russians attack them. They have given the most material out of all the European nations but they aren't.marchinf their military across the border. Japan will come to the defence of Taiwan with their navy. there are more polish men fighting in Ukraine than any other foriegn country. yes they are not "state sponsored" and yes they have provided a metric shit ton of material. but they are far from "sitting on the sidelines". everyone here knows they are NATO and are not militarily fighting russia inside Ukraine. But in a "gray area" they very much are. and not under article 5 |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:33:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Most of the time, that I have seen. Those were: M88 Hercules (recovery), M1 Abrams, and M2 Bradley. I couldn't see any bumper numbers, so without knowing where this was filmed, I don't know if those are intended for Ukrainian or US use. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By Easterner: Is the US equipment the only ones in desert colors? Just curious what tanks are in those colors.... Most of the time, that I have seen. Those were: M88 Hercules (recovery), M1 Abrams, and M2 Bradley. I couldn't see any bumper numbers, so without knowing where this was filmed, I don't know if those are intended for Ukrainian or US use. Rattle can is cheap |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:36:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam:
Wow, cushioned seats! Except for the blown tires and obligatory Ru trash, it looks in decent shape. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:40:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: there are more polish men fighting in Ukraine than any other foriegn country. yes they are not "state sponsored" and yes they have provided a metric shit ton of material. but they are far from "sitting on the sidelines". everyone here knows they are NATO and are not militarily fighting russia inside Ukraine. But in a "gray area" they very much are. and not under article 5 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By Prime:
Somehow I don't think Japan will sit on the sidelines like Poland is doing if china goes hot on Taiwan. Hear the Philippines said no to any us weaponry against china today, so that's a significant change. what do you mean "like Poland is doing"??? Poland is damn sure not sitting on the sidelines when it comes to russian invading Ukraine... you are completely wrong with that assumption Poland can't go in because it would break NATO when they call article five when the Russians attack them. They have given the most material out of all the European nations but they aren't.marchinf their military across the border. Japan will come to the defence of Taiwan with their navy. there are more polish men fighting in Ukraine than any other foriegn country. yes they are not "state sponsored" and yes they have provided a metric shit ton of material. but they are far from "sitting on the sidelines". everyone here knows they are NATO and are not militarily fighting russia inside Ukraine. But in a "gray area" they very much are. and not under article 5 Good to know. Finland, the Baltics and Poland all seem to understand this is not just a tiff with Ukraine, but an existential fight to the finish with Russia. Only the West still thinks this is just another border war. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:42:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: But but But ARF SMEs assure us there are no similarities between Fuck-Ukraine and NukeForTaiwan! Come on, man. It is refreshing to hear a real SME with responsibilities and skin in the game to draw that direct comparison. Japan’s population may be waning but they have a great tradition of warrior spirit, fighting to the last child and their high technology is second to none. China, you want Kamakaze Drone Swarm, this is how you get it. I hope this is a sign to our admin and DoD leaders that Ukraine is not a side show. It should be a wake up call to decisive action. Weakness with Ukraine support will only embolden Xi. I consider Japan the pinnacle of modern societies. The idea that they are still a warrior society simply isn't true. In WWII they were ferocious, I believe they can be ferocious again today, if threatened. One thing Japan understands is a sense of community, togetherness, sacrifice, honor, responsibility and willingness. I will fight for Japan, you know damn well the Japanese will fight for Japan! |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:45:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: 3000 AIDS infested cock batalions of Putin ‘A Quick Death or a Slow Death’: Prisoners Choose War to Get Lifesaving Drugs An estimated 20 percent of Russia prisoner recruits are H.I.V. positive. To some, the front lines seemed less risky than prisons where they said they were denied effective treatments. https://archive.ph/mz7cD In Russian prisons, they said they were deprived of effective treatments for their H.I.V. On the battlefield in Ukraine, they were offered hope, with the promise of anti-viral medications if they agreed to fight. It was a recruiting pitch that worked for many Russian prisoners. About 20 percent of recruits in Russian prisoner units are H.I.V. positive, Ukrainian authorities estimate based on infection rates in captured soldiers. Serving on the front lines seemed less risky than staying in prison, the detainees said in interviews with The New York Times. “Conditions were very harsh” in Russian prison, said Timur, 37, an H.I.V.-positive Russian soldier interviewed at a detention site in the city of Dnipro in central Ukraine, and identified only by a first name, worried that he would face retaliation if he returned to Russia in a prisoner swap. After he was sentenced to 10 years for drug dealing, the doctors in the Russian prison changed the anti-viral medication he had been taking to control H.I.V. to types he feared were not effective, Timur said. He said he did not think he could survive a decade in Russian prison with H.I.V. In December, he agreed to serve six months in the Wagner mercenary group in exchange for a pardon and supplies of anti-viral medications. “I understood I would have a quick death or a slow death,” he said of choosing between poor H.I.V. treatment in prison and participating in assaults in Russia’s war in Ukraine. “I chose a quick death.” Timur had no military experience and was provided two weeks of training before deployment to the front, he said. He was issued a Kalashnikov rifle, 120 bullets, an armored vest and a helmet for the assault. Before sending the soldiers forward, he said, commanders “repeated many times, ‘if you try to leave this field, we will shoot you.’” ... Another H.I.V.-positive prisoner of war who fought in the Wagner group, Yevgeny, said that he had suffered a gunshot wound a month before his capture by Ukrainian forces, according to a videotaped interrogation by Ukraine’s domestic intelligence agency that was reviewed by The Times. He had received timely medical help despite wearing a red bracelet, he said, but was treated in a hospital where he felt doctors were careless about infecting other patients. “There were no conditions for the H.I.V. infected,” he said. “We were all treated together, the healthy and the unhealthy.” Boy, are they effed. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:46:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Someone else mentioned it already: The AfD (Sort of further right than most Republicans) is the equivalent of the people we see in GD. The fact that they're teaming up with Die Linke (the former East German Communist party) is ridiculous. Thankfully, that represents a pretty small percentage of the German population. The way they write it though, that commie leader is pretty popular in Germany. Maybe popular enough to upset some apple carts. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:47:35 AM EDT
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Not sure what to make of this small home brewed MLRS…
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:53:45 AM EDT
[#35]
 Precious… 
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Posted: 4/22/2023 12:54:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2023 1:21:20 AM EDT
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No other information yet. No pics. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 1:27:01 AM EDT
[#38]
Gee I wonder where Antifa learned to call everyone that opposes them “Nazis?” Hint: Two syllables, loves trash, bombs civilians and rhymes with FuckRussia. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 2:32:53 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ILfreedom: If the Sevastopol naval base is the sticking point, give it or lease it to Russia. Like the US naval base Guantonomo Cuba. But the rest of Crimea must be under Ukrainian military control. Russia could have security within Sevastopol but no armor or artillery. Russia would then be free to play in the Black Sea or Mediterranean as long as they never threatened Ukraine or any Nato country. As soon as they do, sink them all Objectively speaking Sevastopol isn’t the sticking point. Russia claims they must control all of Crimea to prevent their trade out of Rostov-on-Don from being blockaded. Simply referring to a map would show that Russian trade could be blockaded from Romania or (obviously) Turkey with equal effectiveness. Furthermore the realities of modern warfare being what they are, Russian trade from the Black Sea could be blockaded from more or less anywhere in Southern/Eastern Europe. This is a play for the resources of Ukraine - land, mineral, and human - in order to make a play for European hegemony. Period. Russia continues to pump these 19th century rationales because they are an effective cover for naked imperialism. The same argument is being made by Russia for “buffer states” in Eastern and Central Europe against a fictional 19th century land army invasion of Russia. There is no land invasion of Russia and there isn’t going to be. It’s just a convenient Russian pretext for imperialism. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 2:59:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: I certainly agree with you, if what is going on with slow rolling aid and using approaches like what I mentioned might be happening, I believe it is immoral. I have said since before this started we need to be proactive instead of reactive. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well, according to Ben Hodges, the Ukrainians know if they can make gains and then cut off Crimea, then the rules will have to change from the stance mentioned in the article. To me it's sort of a carrot stick approach. Ukraine is encouraged to make gains with what they have been given, and if those gains are good enough to put them in a good position regarding Crimea, then the next level of aid or negotiations can happen. I hope so. Still it sounds very immoral to help a little, see how many friendlies die fighting to save their homes, then maybe send a little more. I see a lady in the park getting raped and I toss her my pocket knife while watching with interest and yelling "come on girl, lets see what you got and maybe I'll hand you my Glock"...would be very fucked up! When this is all over, I believe that Ukraine will have some legitimate hard feelings once they count their dead and see what we could have sent them. I certainly agree with you, if what is going on with slow rolling aid and using approaches like what I mentioned might be happening, I believe it is immoral. I have said since before this started we need to be proactive instead of reactive. Not that I think everyone agrees with me, but I have mixed feelings on the morality of what I believe is the situation. While China is the emerging threat, I believe no country has done more evil in the world in the last century-plus than Russia. The Russian people aren’t inherently evil, but they allow a monstrous system to exercise power over them and to spread lies and destruction wherever they can reach. That system and its power must be destroyed and this is our chance to do it. If it survives we’re looking at another century of misery. If our goal is to smash Russia and use Ukraine to do it, that’s in Ukraine’s interests too. Ukraine’s long term survival is best assured by Russia’s dismemberment. If it takes 100K or even 200k dead, it’s a small price to pay frankly. National survival is fucking hardball. If our goal is to slap Russia around a bit and show them who’s boss at Ukraine’s expense, that’s immoral and foolish. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:15:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: That is how it was before the war began. I do not think Russia would agree to that at this point with a hostile Ukraine. Sevastopol cannot be defended if the rest of Crimea is controlled by Ukraine. Crimea is a fortress, only reachable by narrow strips of land or the Syvash lagoon by foot. That makes it incredibly easy to defend against a land attack. And Russia will certainly not agree to be dictated what kinds of weapons they can have on base. Unless Ukraine is willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of soldiers, it will remain under Russian control. Let them keep their navy there and refuse to trade with them, so it will be nothing more than a liability and money sink. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ILfreedom: If the Sevastopol naval base is the sticking point, give it or lease it to Russia. Like the US naval base Guantonomo Cuba. But the rest of Crimea must be under Ukrainian military control. Russia could have security within Sevastopol but no armor or artillery. Russia would then be free to play in the Black Sea or Mediterranean as long as they never threatened Ukraine or any Nato country. As soon as they do, sink them all That is how it was before the war began. I do not think Russia would agree to that at this point with a hostile Ukraine. Sevastopol cannot be defended if the rest of Crimea is controlled by Ukraine. Crimea is a fortress, only reachable by narrow strips of land or the Syvash lagoon by foot. That makes it incredibly easy to defend against a land attack. And Russia will certainly not agree to be dictated what kinds of weapons they can have on base. Unless Ukraine is willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of soldiers, it will remain under Russian control. Let them keep their navy there and refuse to trade with them, so it will be nothing more than a liability and money sink. And yet Crimea was taken in 1855, changed hands several times in the Russian Civil War, and again in 1942. Crimea’s situation is a double-edged sword. There are limited avenues to invade it but also limited avenues to supply it. This isn’t 1942. Russians sitting in trenches will be systematically exterminated by drones and precision artillery while LR PGMs shit all over their logistics chain. The big question isn’t getting into Crimea, it’s getting close enough to control the north exit with tube arty and the east exit with HIMARS. Once those two things happen it’s just a matter of time. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:15:56 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Not that I think everyone agrees with me, but I have mixed feelings on the morality of what I believe is the situation. While China is the emerging threat, I believe no country has done more evil in the world in the last century-plus than Russia. The Russian people aren’t inherently evil, but they allow a monstrous system to exercise power over them and to spread lies and destruction wherever they can reach. That system and its power must be destroyed and this is our chance to do it. If it survives we’re looking at another century of misery. If our goal is to smash Russia and use Ukraine to do it, that’s in Ukraine’s interests too. Ukraine’s long term survival is best assured by Russia’s dismemberment. If it takes 100K or even 200k dead, it’s a small price to pay frankly. National survival is fucking hardball. If our goal is to slap Russia around a bit and show them who’s boss at Ukraine’s expense, that’s immoral and foolish. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Well, according to Ben Hodges, the Ukrainians know if they can make gains and then cut off Crimea, then the rules will have to change from the stance mentioned in the article. To me it's sort of a carrot stick approach. Ukraine is encouraged to make gains with what they have been given, and if those gains are good enough to put them in a good position regarding Crimea, then the next level of aid or negotiations can happen. I hope so. Still it sounds very immoral to help a little, see how many friendlies die fighting to save their homes, then maybe send a little more. I see a lady in the park getting raped and I toss her my pocket knife while watching with interest and yelling "come on girl, lets see what you got and maybe I'll hand you my Glock"...would be very fucked up! When this is all over, I believe that Ukraine will have some legitimate hard feelings once they count their dead and see what we could have sent them. I certainly agree with you, if what is going on with slow rolling aid and using approaches like what I mentioned might be happening, I believe it is immoral. I have said since before this started we need to be proactive instead of reactive. Not that I think everyone agrees with me, but I have mixed feelings on the morality of what I believe is the situation. While China is the emerging threat, I believe no country has done more evil in the world in the last century-plus than Russia. The Russian people aren’t inherently evil, but they allow a monstrous system to exercise power over them and to spread lies and destruction wherever they can reach. That system and its power must be destroyed and this is our chance to do it. If it survives we’re looking at another century of misery. If our goal is to smash Russia and use Ukraine to do it, that’s in Ukraine’s interests too. Ukraine’s long term survival is best assured by Russia’s dismemberment. If it takes 100K or even 200k dead, it’s a small price to pay frankly. National survival is fucking hardball. If our goal is to slap Russia around a bit and show them who’s boss at Ukraine’s expense, that’s immoral and foolish. I agree with you 100%. Russia will continue to spread lies, corruption, invasions and genocide until they are crippled. This is the pennies on the dollar opportunity. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:16:28 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Oh noes! |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:16:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:22:13 AM EDT
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https://twitter.com/pstyle0ne1/status/1649669469877280773
The heads will keep rolling until everyone loves Mother Russia. I guess you have to be an oligarch to get away with diverting production. On suspicion of “treason”, the deputy head of the testing laboratory of the Promtekhnologiya weapons factory near Moscow was detained. “FSB investigators have charged Russian citizen Dmitry Kicha, deputy head of the testing laboratory at the Promtekhnologiya weapons factory in the capital, which produces hunting and sporting rifles under the ORSIS brand, with high treason in favor of foreign countries,” writes TASS. The publication claims that the capital's court has already sent the accused to the Lefortovo pre-trial detention center. Details of the case were not released. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:39:42 AM EDT
[#46]
I don’t trust Milley but I hope this is true. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:40:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: There would be little benefit to expending ammunition to bombard Sevastopol unless Ukraine plans to follow up with ground assault. Russia would retaliate and fight them to a stalemate. Ukraine will not win an attrition war with Russia over Crimea. The Ukrainian economy cannot sustain long range bombardment without help from NATO. And they are denied the maneuver war due to limited access to the peninsula. Russia has more men to waste and they have the advantage of defending fortified positions further up north on the peninsula. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ILfreedom: Whether Russia agreed with it or not is irrelevant. Ukraine is developing its own long range drone and missile systems to make Sevastopol and also Russiann airbases in Crimea as untenable. You don't have to do a land based attack to take Crimea to make Russian occupation of Crimea as worthless to them. Russia should take the deal of a Sevastopol lease as the best deal they can get. I do believe the Ukrainians would honor it. There would be little benefit to expending ammunition to bombard Sevastopol unless Ukraine plans to follow up with ground assault. Russia would retaliate and fight them to a stalemate. Ukraine will not win an attrition war with Russia over Crimea. The Ukrainian economy cannot sustain long range bombardment without help from NATO. And they are denied the maneuver war due to limited access to the peninsula. Russia has more men to waste and they have the advantage of defending fortified positions further up north on the peninsula. “The Ukrainian economy cannot sustain long range bombardment without help from NATO.” Last time I checked, Ukraine was getting help from NATO, and NATO’s economy is something like 40 times larger than that of Russia. It’s Russia that will be economically unable to sustain the war. They’ll last until someone decides it’s in their interests to blow Putin’s brains out, or until their army collapses/mutinies, whichever comes first. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:51:50 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ILfreedom: There is a difference between what is right and what is achievable. I'm not saying Ukraine should offer up anything. But if they do, it should be a solution that is balanced in favor of Ukraine. This war is not going to end for a while. Do the Ukrainans need Sevastopol for its future security under the conditions I outlined? I don't think so. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ILfreedom: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: Russia lost its right to lease anything when they attacked Ukraine. Ukraine should be contemplating how much of Russia they want to take in reparations. There is a difference between what is right and what is achievable. I'm not saying Ukraine should offer up anything. But if they do, it should be a solution that is balanced in favor of Ukraine. This war is not going to end for a while. Do the Ukrainans need Sevastopol for its future security under the conditions I outlined? I don't think so. They do. Check out the massive gas reserves that were found within the territorial waters of Crimea. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 3:59:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Then give them the means to win, long range ammunition like ATACMS and fighter jets to carry out air strikes over Crimea. Missiles to sink ships. Why is that not happening? NATO has an interest in keeping Ukraine as a functional state to contain Russia, but they do not want to escalate further than what is necessary for that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: Originally Posted By ILfreedom: I would not assume Nato support for Ukraine will end. From Nato's perspective they are destroying Russia's capability to wage war on them at a relatively low cost. No Nato infrastructure is being destroyed and no Nato soldier is dying. There is no cheaper way to wage war against a historical enemy than what is transpiring in Ukraine right now. Then give them the means to win, long range ammunition like ATACMS and fighter jets to carry out air strikes over Crimea. Missiles to sink ships. Why is that not happening? NATO has an interest in keeping Ukraine as a functional state to contain Russia, but they do not want to escalate further than what is necessary for that. Opinions differ on that. My opinion is that we’re grinding Russia to powder, and to do so it’s best to keep the game close so that Putin always just needs to put a bit more in to think he can win. If we’d handed Ukraine 50 HIMARS on 2/25/22 Putin would’ve gotten the message and Russia wouldn’t be in the midst of refurbing T55s for target duties in Ukraine. This war will end when we decide it ends, hopefully only when Russia’s many subject peoples unsheathe their knives. |
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Posted: 4/22/2023 4:03:49 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: Because drones are cheap, as are grenades, it seems to me that the harassment value and terror of being targeted day and night as an individual has to suck. Raining artillery on individual soldiers seems like overkill, pun intended. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: Originally Posted By GTLandser: That seems logical to me. And perhaps those teams would be detached down from the HHC, or split off from a CAV squadron. FSOs might also be a logical home for drones, but they don't (IIRC) have the manning for hardly anything else either. Tank companies just barely have the manning to keep 14 tanks going, especially around the clock, so I don't see the sense in saddling them with more tasks. Personally I think tactical drones should be more defensive in nature. Why drop one grenade on somebody when we in the US have the luxury of calling for much bigger and better fires? I think what we are seeing is really just a consequence of the Ukrainians having fairly static lines, and not nearly enough fire support available. So for us, our 19Ds or 19Ks "could" do the job, but I think 13-series guys makes the best fit. By the way, some of you may have noticed that many of these Ukrainian guys with the specialty AT weapons such as Javelin are coming from Artillery units, because there are fewer of them so apparently they are assigned down more as "fire support". I think we will find a similar situation by necessity with drones (being expensive, potentially dangerous to friendly forces by attracting CB-fire, clogging up air space, etc., all things that Artillery guys are probably better versed in mitigating than your average tanker or scout). JMHO. Because drones are cheap, as are grenades, it seems to me that the harassment value and terror of being targeted day and night as an individual has to suck. Raining artillery on individual soldiers seems like overkill, pun intended. It strikes me that the drone threat must be like antipersonnel mines were historically, but worse. You can die horribly any time. You are never safe. You see people all around you maimed and killed. If you’re wounded, expect follow-up. You know that your enemy gets to watch you die miserably and enjoy it. No thanks. |
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