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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 7:42:51 AM EST
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Yay Hungary
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 7:54:03 AM EST
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Video shows a Ukrainian tank hitting Russian forces in Bakhmut.  Posted 3 hrs ago.


Link Posted: 4/24/2023 7:56:10 AM EST
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I was wondering if this was a photoshop.

Because this is the same Russian glide bomb featured from months ago.  If real, this would be the arming system for the weapon.




Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:00:31 AM EST
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Plant in Russia is on fire in video.





Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:02:25 AM EST
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The Pentagon gave Ukraine at least one Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS) Engagement Operations Center (EOC).

This is huge.

IBCS connects sensors and effectors never designed to work together into one command and control system, so air defense commanders can see and act on data across the entire battlefield more swiftly and use their shooters more efficiently.

This is the most modern air defense command and control system on the planet.
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Joint Multi Domain Integration Achieved with IBCS




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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:03:28 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:03:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Yay Hungary
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"...without major security risk"....what like them INVADING Ukraine? Or is she suggesting that Russia will do something else if/when Ukraine joins NATO?

There is a lot to unpack here. The quote may make more sense in context but who knows.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:06:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Yay Hungary
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:07:49 AM EST
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If you go frame by frame, the explosion does look like it hit something, possibly a ship as something is silhouetted in the explosion with a small secondary.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:08:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
English-speaking "NATO" troops intercepted by Russia



Well, that's an iinteresting infowar attempt if true.
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The thing is. Russians will believe it …
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:11:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, perhaps practicing for that Ukrainian drone competition to land one in Russian territory at their parade for a million bucks.
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looks like a screen shot overlay , i would say fake , but we can hope
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:11:50 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest] [#12]
3 Russian cartoons for the soldiers on how to do things included.  It's not bad advice.

Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:12:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
looks like a screen shot overlay , i would say fake , but we can hope
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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
lol, perhaps practicing for that Ukrainian drone competition to land one in Russian territory at their parade for a million bucks.
looks like a screen shot overlay , i would say fake , but we can hope



I would not be surprised if this was just Ukrainian trolling for now.  
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:14:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

God bless that man
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
Originally Posted By Prime:

God bless that man


The carnage that he has witnessed must be horrible.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:14:34 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:16:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MADMAXXX:
This first video was posted earlier but I just now saw the second part in the second video.
ETA The grenade drop accuracy in the second video was awesome.
Off the wall, right in the hole, BOOM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VnDa8GWKKU
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Great find. That trench clearing was much more methodical than we’ve seen before, that looked like UK Interflex training made it to the front.

Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:17:27 AM EST
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Twitter version of the 2nd part of the battle of Cyclops 2.  Trench clearing.

https://twitter.com/bigSAC10/status/1650466583314087941
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:19:37 AM EST
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Thermal drone video of testing of the Russian thermal blankets to help keep them from showing up on thermal.

Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:20:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
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Russia gets no say so in this.  None. My fellow countrymen and women need to get over the Ruskies like yesteryear…
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:20:54 AM EST
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Ugledar direction
Two FPV-drones of the 74th separate reconnaissance battalion, in turn, deprived the Pacific Marines of two "eyes". The first chamber was destroyed in early April, the second, apparently fresh
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:22:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


One may not want to hear how filthy the sausage-making machines are in the sausage factory, but much of our Federal Government is woefully inefficient and run by the self-interested; in most agencies large amounts of assets are wasted on bureaucracy with higher leadership so bad that bare mediocrity would be a massive improvement.  Most of the effective work is done by small pockets of competent people and leaders who are generally under siege by what feels like an incompetent and self-interested blob, and senior leadership that speaks in politicized word salad.  One doesn't "hate" the FedGov in concept to point out how bloated, incompetent, and self-dealing the Federal Bureaucracy as a whole actually is, and how quicky it is sinking further into a Byzantine morass.
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By borderpatrol:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Meanwhile, folks will twist themselves into all sorts of knots about the relatively small slice of the pie going to UA, while, I don’t know… DoD can’t even get an audit opinion and it’s doubtful they will in the next 10 yrs (happy to explain all the reasons why, but it ain’t the sexy fraud or $500 toilet seats stories you want to hear…), let alone a clean opinion… or entitlement fraud, etc that is fucking legion across all major programs and has been for decades… or the fucking mismanaged termite mound on top of shit mountain that VA is and has been (too many SES billets for too many…not all, but too fucking many to sustain… washed up flags and field grades that didn’t have an in at DoD or industry once the rolled out from their service…too many fiefdoms mobbed up with their reps to get suction ahead of the mission and higher…etc).

Point is ya can’t go casting stones if you live in glass houses, especially when the other thing is run way better than all that other shit.


Do go on.

Your vile dislike for anything government is apparent for all to see. How do you think weapons and ammo reach Ukraine?


One may not want to hear how filthy the sausage-making machines are in the sausage factory, but much of our Federal Government is woefully inefficient and run by the self-interested; in most agencies large amounts of assets are wasted on bureaucracy with higher leadership so bad that bare mediocrity would be a massive improvement.  Most of the effective work is done by small pockets of competent people and leaders who are generally under siege by what feels like an incompetent and self-interested blob, and senior leadership that speaks in politicized word salad.  One doesn't "hate" the FedGov in concept to point out how bloated, incompetent, and self-dealing the Federal Bureaucracy as a whole actually is, and how quicky it is sinking further into a Byzantine morass.

This right here.

I have no problem with how weapons get to UA, but more needs to be done at a faster cadence.

I’m more than aware on how the executive branch works. I worked for them since the mid 1990s up until about 2 years ago. I’ve been around the block a few times - from enlisted active/guard/reserve to contractor and civilian across several branches of the military, the Pentagon,  the IC, DOJ, DHS, VA, the White House, and some other specialized gigs.

The original point made was our fellow posters who decry US aid to UA and scream about fraud and 10% for the big guy haven’t got a clue. They shout at clouds while willfully ignoring basic facts and circumstances. They buy-in to conspiracy theories with out any supporting facts. They don’t understand the basic reality of how dysfunctional our govt is, on average, in practice.  Useful idiots.

End of tangent.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:23:46 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:27:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest] [#23]
Current 360 degree pan of Bakhmut.

Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:31:10 AM EST
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Twitter version of part 2 of the Battle for Cyclops posted earlier with Ukrainian forces going into Russian trenches.  



Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:34:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest] [#25]
Not sure if this was from the earlier boat attacks or if this is new footage from last night on the drone boat attack.

https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1650477755308318722
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:36:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Exactly. And if they develop a Level V suit of armor that protects almost everything, it will be very hard to move. By then little drones and pulse rifles will be the threat.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast:

I honestly don't think that penetrating plates with small arms is a very important capability. The head, neck, arms, legs, hips, etc. are all still exposed. We just spent 20 years fighting dudes with small arms that couldn't penetrate our plates, but we still got suppressed and took casualties from small arms all the time, and lots of the dudes we frequently fought couldn't shoot for shit. It's just not a capability that I think matters very much. If I want to get around their plates, I'll use HE to do it.

Exactly. And if they develop a Level V suit of armor that protects almost everything, it will be very hard to move. By then little drones and pulse rifles will be the threat.


Like the knights of old, once you hit the ground, you can't get up.

IMO, aiming at the genitals insures they can't reproduce. F Putin with a rusty rebar.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:43:09 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

His strategy to hold Bakhmut as long as possible seems to be paying off.
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Russia leaves rubble in their wake. Why allow them any progress?

Kill them, every single one, where they stand. Anyone captured should be forced into hard labor to clear the wreckage they have caused!
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:46:18 AM EST
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


Unless the frequencies at issue are different than what I think they are, that cage is only for keeping critters from chewing up something and/or to keep people from tripping over it. I could be wrong, though.
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Yeah, I can't believe people think its something other than that.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 8:58:12 AM EST
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More on this and other goodies being sent to UA and backfilled to our stockpiles (additional tweets in this thread behind the spoiler): https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1650224754060677121
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ETA: There is some fucky bullshit going on with Twitter. Click on any of the tweets to get to the thread. Some are not showing up on this end.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:07:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

More on this and other goodies being sent to UA and backfilled to our stockpiles (additional tweets in this thread behind the spoiler): https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1650224754060677121
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ETA: There is some fucky bullshit going on with Twitter. Click on any of the tweets to get to the thread. Some are not showing up on this end.
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

More on this and other goodies being sent to UA and backfilled to our stockpiles (additional tweets in this thread behind the spoiler): https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1650224754060677121
Click To View Spoiler

ETA: There is some fucky bullshit going on with Twitter. Click on any of the tweets to get to the thread. Some are not showing up on this end.


Thanks for adding those, I don't know why some certain Twitter contributors don't show up correctly on this site either, it's a pain in the ass.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:10:46 AM EST
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Don’t read if you have an active clearance.Click To View Spoiler
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:13:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
The Pentagon gave Ukraine at least one Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS) Engagement Operations Center (EOC).

This is huge.

IBCS connects sensors and effectors never designed to work together into one command and control system, so air defense commanders can see and act on data across the entire battlefield more swiftly and use their shooters more efficiently.

This is the most modern air defense command and control system on the planet.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fuel8KUXsAETBog?format=jpg&name=large



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXOozWECnI4



source:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1650470511695085568


Wow!
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:19:41 AM EST
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Replaced.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:21:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


Wow!
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
The Pentagon gave Ukraine at least one Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS) Engagement Operations Center (EOC).

This is huge.

IBCS connects sensors and effectors never designed to work together into one command and control system, so air defense commanders can see and act on data across the entire battlefield more swiftly and use their shooters more efficiently.

This is the most modern air defense command and control system on the planet.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fuel8KUXsAETBog?format=jpg&name=large



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXOozWECnI4



source:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1650470511695085568


Wow!



lol, someone here a few days ago wanted to know if Patriot could network with AWACS and other radars, so the graphic was convenient to help show how it integrates with a lot of assets.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:23:38 AM EST
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40 minutes ago.

Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:25:41 AM EST
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Stormer
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:42:50 AM EST
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For maritime attacks are they using surface drones because they can carry more explosives than just-above-the-surface airborne drones?

Seems like wave-skimming airborne drones could penetrate the multiple barriers easier.

But I don't really know Jack Schitt.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:49:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
I did not know that history, thank you.

For context, I would add that my question was asked in response to one of the "SME's" who said if we are fighting in Ukraine for moral reasons, don't we have a moral obligation to fight for the Uyghurs (among others).
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Originally Posted By borderpatrol:


The Uyghurs (Muslim minority) organized a terrorist attack that involved slicing and hacking over fifty people with knives and swords in western China. The Communist Party decided to punish the entire community. As much as I distrust China, and especially Communists, murdering lots of people for no reason deserves an overwhelming response. The Uyghurs have been demanding a self-governing republic carved out of western China for decades and alliances with the Muslim nations in the middle east. What we do if Portland, Minneapolis, Austin, etc. decided they wanted independence from our nation and started murdering people to make a point.?

Nobody has a right to slaughter innocent people and expect nothing in return.

El Salvador has recently declared war on criminal gangs. I have my reservations regarding human rights, but organized crime deserves a harsh response. It should be illegal to belong to any criminal organization. We should be adopting strategies to wipe them out, with or without, Draconian measures to make it happen. Our Founding Fathers did not write the Bill of Rights to protect criminals! The wrote it to protect political speech!

I the early 1800's it wasn't considered cruel or unusual to have criminals "blocked" (their head and arms held in a wooden vise and forced to stay outdoors without protection from the weather) in front of city hall. 24 hours probably made an impression, longer did for sure. Cheap and effective. "Depends" had not been invented yet.

Thieves should be punished in the most financially effective way possible. Murderer's and rapists should spend their lives in prison.

The original meaning of "outlaw" meant that person had last all legal recourse through the "King's Courts". Part of being a citizen meant you honored and obeyed your nation's laws. If you stepped outside of that protection and responsibility too many times, the King could place you as a "persona non grata".

You were no longer a citizen, you have no rights, anyone could exact a revenge, burn your house down, F you in the ass and you no longer had recourse. If one of your previous victims decided to slit your throat, no law could stop them or punish them. If someone you never harmed decided to do the same, you were helpless. It's important to have consequences.

The social contract comes with responsibilities and commitments. Anyone who thinks they don't owe something to their neighbors', are not a member of their community, don't support law enforcement, won't testify against criminals, especially violent criminals, deserve the city they get. They might lose all their worldly possessions and some of their loved ones.

We are at a crossroads. Probably have been for decades. Allowing criminality to become common, even allowed, will destroy our nation. This is not a problem that can't be conquered. Right and wrong is almost universally accepted. We need to find a way to address criminality that performs a positive outcome and response from the community. The poorest crime ridden communities should be free of litter, condemned buildings, graffiti and the sidewalks trimmed to the limit of their base.

Convicts should be put to work making their communities better. The lowest income neighborhoods should be spotless when it comes to litter. The humiliation and forced responsibility should make an impression on the offenders. They may even become an asset once they are released from their duties, who wants to see their community deteriorate after they spent days cleaning it up?

With the current technology available, convicts could be required to wear shock collars or shock bracelets that would punish them severely should they get over 100 yards away from the work crew. Supervisors could punish anyone as an individual should they break any rules. Most of our inner cities are full of trash and condemned buildings need demolition. Being on a chain gang in your own neighborhood will have a sobering effect. Criminals, to a man, hate being shamed or humiliated. Lets get something positive done with convicts, instead of suffering high financial costs and little incentive against a return visit to our court system.
I did not know that history, thank you.

For context, I would add that my question was asked in response to one of the "SME's" who said if we are fighting in Ukraine for moral reasons, don't we have a moral obligation to fight for the Uyghurs (among others).

None of that can happen when we have criminals running our own country
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:50:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

We talked about it. It is mostly swamp and bog. Not suited for a bridgehead for a major operation.
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It's a small section of beach surrounded by swamp but a good position to cover repairs to a major bridge just to the east.

Mike
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:56:31 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 9:59:07 AM EST
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23 vehicles/fuel/ammo trucks? Another convoy got popped or somebody is busy somewhere behind the lines.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:03:34 AM EST
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continues: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1650232560918691844.html
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:05:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
The Pentagon gave Ukraine at least one Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS) Engagement Operations Center (EOC).

This is huge.

IBCS connects sensors and effectors never designed to work together into one command and control system, so air defense commanders can see and act on data across the entire battlefield more swiftly and use their shooters more efficiently.

This is the most modern air defense command and control system on the planet.




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fuel8KUXsAETBog?format=jpg&name=large



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXOozWECnI4



source:
https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1650470511695085568

Real world data testing

It's like Spain in the 30's all over again.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:11:26 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:13:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By doc540:
For maritime attacks are they using surface drones because they can carry more explosives than just-above-the-surface airborne drones?

Seems like wave-skimming airborne drones could penetrate the multiple barriers easier.

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Not just explosives but engines and batteries/fuel to get the long range that they need. It is easier and cheaper to pack all that heavy stuff on surface drones than to make them fly. Ships can also loiter for a long time, waiting for the right moment to attack without consuming much energy.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:20:56 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:25:13 AM EST
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Would be a real shame if their crews took up smoking.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:31:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
3 Russian cartoons for the soldiers on how to do things included.  It's not bad advice.

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They used to do the same for our soldiers, too.
Link Posted: 4/24/2023 10:37:01 AM EST
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Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News.
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