I confess I don’t immediately understand how this helps with EW but doesn’t also kill functionality.

Hypothetically the wire mesh could be optimized to pass the starlink’s functioning wavelength while blocking the jamming wavelength… but that’s not what’s going on in that photo. Idk… any ideas?

ETA: that post the other day placed a limit on the cell size, so maybe that is done with the starlink wavelength in mind and the grid cuts out a lot of the jamming above that wavelength and the amount of jamming at the wavelength at the frequency of gps is small enough to be tolerable.

Which you’d think they’d dump a lot of energy into jamming at the gps wavelength

Every one of them gives me either a sensible chuckle,or I just outright laugh.

My guess, there is a critical gap in the wire. Block the majority of the EW, and let the signal through.

Pavlov was Russian.

Unless the frequencies at issue are different than what I think they are, that cage is only for keeping critters from chewing up something and/or to keep people from tripping over it. I could be wrong, though.

Hmm yea maybe. Because they described a fence in their earlier post.

Man signal quality must take a massive dump tho so there’s a tangible sacrifice. Better than nothing of course.

And they need good knowledge of where the satellites are. They’re geosynchronous right? Such a small gap….

Right that’s true too. All one has to do is look at their microwave door to see a quarter wavelength for… well microwaves. And Therese would be much shorter.

Should be 1.2-1.5 GHz for civilian gps signals, right?

We had to  use screen-door mesh size shielding to keep the signals from the equipment we were working on at the base from leaking out to the runway. That fence wire isn't doing shit except keeping deer away.

I must have screwed up the math then because I'm getting 3/4" to 1" mesh on the high end for gps frequencies.

Agreed, all the real cages I’ve seen have been more like porch screening than that

Antenna cope cage.

Many homes where I am have stucco exteriors and that has a wire-mesh backing of similar size which does not significantly hinder radio, cell, WiFi or other signals like GPS.

What’s the wavelength of a gps freq? I remember microwaves are a cm or two (so a quarter of that gives us what we have on our microwave appliance doors to shield us)… and I’m too lazy to do math right now to figure out what a couple GHz is lol

~ .19 and .24 m
Maybe

Yea that’s right.

Well 1 ghz is 300 mm so I was way off

Ah I’m going to have to cut myself now for not knowing that!!!

Problem is I’m a wavelength guy in my defense (depending on your part of the spectrum and field some people work and think in different units).

So that spacing makes more sense now

Nope. It's also possible I have no idea what I'm yammering about. I just know my previous experience.

ETA:  I don't know shit about the wavelength of GPS, when I was dealing with it (as an archaeologist) the focus was on how accurate it could be, differential GPS, things like that. None of us cared about the specific wavelength. Without fail. someone will be along shortly to explain how we're all wrong, and the scientific reason why. I'm looking forward to it. I learn a lot in this thread.

I hear that.  I'm looking forward to learning more about this and if they're defending against EW or just running psyops or something.


For anyone who wants to dig in, here is what I was going by
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That's an Interesting thread

My parents warned me to watch out for those wavelength guys.  

We'll have to see if anyone here has experience with this stuff. It might be a case of what the internet says and what actually works in the field being two different things. Or on the other hand, the shielding seeming inadequate but being just good enough to blunt their attack in a specific location.  Also the video looked like 2 different setups, maybe they were testing or just throwing anything they could find on there.

Can see where the term 'trench foot' comes from:

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This is how the trenches of our soldiers in the #Zaporozhye direction look now pic.twitter.com/Hkeh4GfhUR

— Feher_Junior (@Feher_Junior) April 23, 2023

https://twitter.com/pstyle0ne1/status/1650378387377074177
Budanov ought to know. I hope they can defeat Russia this year. You never know, if a breakthrough gets into their rear areas it could become a rout. Better to plan for friction and counterattacks. But it would be grand if he has a plan for a 2023 defeat.

"We are approaching a landmark battle, when it starts is a mystery", - Budanov

A few more statements by the head of the GUR:
📍If you take a football analogy, now is 72-75 minutes.
📍 To reach the borders of 1991 is quite an achievable task this year.  Sufficient volumes of territory will be returned by force during the counteroffensive.
📍 If we enter the Crimea, there will be no nuclear strike.  Crimea is part of the territory of Ukraine, without the return of Crimea the situation will not end.

Last day, the enemy continued to attack areas of border and front-line settlements of Kharkiv, Chuguyiv and Kupyan districts

??In particular, the areas of the settlements of Hoptivka, Zelene, Neskuchne, Budarki, Milove, Krasne Pershe, Vovchansk, Dvorichna, Hryanikyvka, Lyman…

— Lew Anno Suport #Ukraine 24/2-22 (@anno1540) April 24, 2023

The Uyghurs (Muslim minority) organized a terrorist attack that involved slicing and hacking over fifty people with knives and swords in western China. The Communist Party decided to punish the entire community. As much as I distrust China, and especially Communists, murdering lots of people for no reason deserves an overwhelming response. The Uyghurs have been demanding a self-governing republic carved out of western China for decades and alliances with the Muslim nations in the middle east. What we do if Portland, Minneapolis, Austin, etc. decided they wanted independence from our nation and started murdering people to make a point.?

Nobody has a right to slaughter innocent people and expect nothing in return.

El Salvador has recently declared war on criminal gangs. I have my reservations regarding human rights, but organized crime deserves a harsh response. It should be illegal to belong to any criminal organization. We should be adopting strategies to wipe them out, with or without, Draconian measures to make it happen. Our Founding Fathers did not write the Bill of Rights to protect criminals! The wrote it to protect political speech!

I the early 1800's it wasn't considered cruel or unusual to have criminals "blocked" (their head and arms held in a wooden vise and forced to stay outdoors without protection from the weather) in front of city hall. 24 hours probably made an impression, longer did for sure. Cheap and effective. "Depends" had not been invented yet.

Thieves should be punished in the most financially effective way possible. Murderer's and rapists should spend their lives in prison.

The original meaning of "outlaw" meant that person had last all legal recourse through the "King's Courts". Part of being a citizen meant you honored and obeyed your nation's laws. If you stepped outside of that protection and responsibility too many times, the King could place you as a "persona non grata".

You were no longer a citizen, you have no rights, anyone could exact a revenge, burn your house down, F you in the ass and you no longer had recourse. If one of your previous victims decided to slit your throat, no law could stop them or punish them. If someone you never harmed decided to do the same, you were helpless. It's important to have consequences.

The social contract comes with responsibilities and commitments. Anyone who thinks they don't owe something to their neighbors', are not a member of their community, don't support law enforcement, won't testify against criminals, especially violent criminals, deserve the city they get. They might lose all their worldly possessions and some of their loved ones.

We are at a crossroads. Probably have been for decades. Allowing criminality to become common, even allowed, will destroy our nation. This is not a problem that can't be conquered. Right and wrong is almost universally accepted. We need to find a way to address criminality that performs a positive outcome and response from the community. The poorest crime ridden communities should be free of litter, condemned buildings, graffiti and the sidewalks trimmed to the limit of their base.

Convicts should be put to work making their communities better. The lowest income neighborhoods should be spotless when it comes to litter. The humiliation and forced responsibility should make an impression on the offenders. They may even become an asset once they are released from their duties, who wants to see their community deteriorate after they spent days cleaning it up?

With the current technology available, convicts could be required to wear shock collars or shock bracelets that would punish them severely should they get over 100 yards away from the work crew. Supervisors could punish anyone as an individual should they break any rules. Most of our inner cities are full of trash and condemned buildings need demolition. Being on a chain gang in your own neighborhood will have a sobering effect. Criminals, to a man, hate being shamed or humiliated. Lets get something positive done with convicts, instead of suffering high financial costs and little incentive against a return visit to our court system.

Russia does not get Crimea, no matter how many bullets go in Putin's head. Shoot him 1000 times, I don't care, Crimea is Ukraine.

I enjoy hearing about anything that gets near Moscow.
BREAKING ‼️A drone with 17 kilograms of explosives fell in the Moscow region




The drone was discovered by a local resident in a forest near Noginsk on the afternoon of April 23. She reported to the police that she had found a large aircraft 300 meters from her house.

The crashed drone was a Ukrainian-made UJ-22 Airborn, 3.5 meters long. Apparently, it ran out of fuel. Inside the drone, about 30 briquettes weighing 570 grams with an explosive inside were found.
#RussiaIsLosing #Russia #Moscow #Ukraine #UkraineRussiaWar

Do go on.

Your vile dislike for anything government is apparent for all to see. How do you think weapons and ammo reach Ukraine?

\uD83E\uDDF5 Russian state-propaganda Channel One TV host Elena Malysheva spotted enjoying life in New York, where she owns tens of millions of dollars in real estate. pic.twitter.com/JxpQyLLRc4

Igor Sushko  (@igorsushko) April 23, 2023

The properties in New York and New Jersey were purchased by Malysheva and her family with embezzled money, which probably gives our government the right to seize the real estate.

Love these comments:

They all complain about the US but love the spoils.