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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:35:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Here come a shitload of Taurus Stealth cruise missiles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Here come a shitload of Taurus Stealth cruise missiles. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:35:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year.  There can't be much left to give away. 
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:42:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLOL! What are they going to do?! Invade, kidnap children, torture civilians, steal washing machines, bomb cities?! Oooh they mad! 😂😂😂😂 |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Maybe?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large We still have AIM-7 missiles? I'm surprised at what we keep in storage. I can imagine NATO having old stores of these in some places. Maybe?
Very possibly part of the "Franken SAM" project. Posted here back in January. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/sea-sparrow-rim-7-surface-to-air-missiles-are-headed-to-ukraine |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:53:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: Awww yeah! First on the list, some TU-95's... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Here come a shitload of Taurus Stealth cruise missiles. Any idea from which air base the bombers are taking off? Last I heard was after the attacks on the bases near Moscow they moved them to the far east. Are they still flying 1-2,000 miles to launch or did they bring them back closer? Murmansk maybe? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:56:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away. They keep finding more stuff to give away.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away. 😂 Were they planning to USE them otherwise? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 3:59:47 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Finally, a shotgun vs drone video! |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
W00T somebody figured out a shotgun migh be a good idea again a small flying target. Good shoot. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:04:37 PM EDT
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I'm hoping that the "munitions for aerial vehicles" in the most recent aid package are the DPICM bomblets the Ukrainians asked for a while back. Dropping those from drones onto Russian armor would be a nice capability for them to have.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:07:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Maybe?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large We still have AIM-7 missiles? I'm surprised at what we keep in storage. I can imagine NATO having old stores of these in some places. Maybe?
https://defence-blog.com/ukraine-to-integrate-sea-sparrow-missile-into-soviet-era-buk-launchers/ |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away. We are there... |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Very possibly part of the "Franken SAM" project. Posted here back in January. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/sea-sparrow-rim-7-surface-to-air-missiles-are-headed-to-ukraine Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large We still have AIM-7 missiles? I'm surprised at what we keep in storage. I can imagine NATO having old stores of these in some places. Maybe?
Very possibly part of the "Franken SAM" project. Posted here back in January. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/sea-sparrow-rim-7-surface-to-air-missiles-are-headed-to-ukraine There were 70,000 of those made. No info if all remaining inventories were continually upgraded. But there ought to be at least several thousand left as it has been replaced for many years. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:09:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Very possibly part of the "Franken SAM" project. Posted here back in January. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/sea-sparrow-rim-7-surface-to-air-missiles-are-headed-to-ukraine Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large We still have AIM-7 missiles? I'm surprised at what we keep in storage. I can imagine NATO having old stores of these in some places. Maybe?
Very possibly part of the "Franken SAM" project. Posted here back in January. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/sea-sparrow-rim-7-surface-to-air-missiles-are-headed-to-ukraine I got a theory that will make you cross-eyed.  In the BUK TELAR destruction Twitter post a few pages back, Ukrainian War Tracker alleges UA is using the TELARs as stand alone systems because of the lack of battery radars and the TELs are sitting idle. What if, and this is a big what if let me tell you, they've figured out a way to jury-rig the Sparrows onto the TELs and integrate those TELs with the Skyguard system(s) that Italy is sending/has sent. Skyguard already works with RIM-7/AIM-7. Poland already did the Sea Sparrow/Buk integration groundwork. How different is RIM from AIM? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:12:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K0UA: Can anyone explain to me ( like you would explain to a 5 year old, or maybe a Labrador retriever please) what Iran and the Taliban are fighting over? I do not understand what this conflict is about. Anyone? Over water.. seriously over water rights of the helmand river |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:16:24 PM EDT
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Man, I just realized that they're going to have to get another aid allocation for Ukraine passed through the House and Senate during the GOP primaries... That's going to be a fucking shitshow.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:17:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: I got a theory that will make you cross-eyed. In the BUK TELAR destruction Twitter post a few pages back, Ukrainian War Tracker alleges UA is using the TELARs as stand alone systems because of the lack of battery radars and the TELs are sitting idle. What if, and this is a big what if let me tell you, they've figured out a way to jury-rig the Sparrows onto the TELs and integrate those TELs with the Skyguard system(s) that Italy is sending/has sent. Skyguard already works with RIM-7/AIM-7. Poland already did the Sea Sparrow/Buk integration groundwork. How different is RIM from AIM? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Dracster: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large We still have AIM-7 missiles? I'm surprised at what we keep in storage. I can imagine NATO having old stores of these in some places. Maybe?
Very possibly part of the "Franken SAM" project. Posted here back in January. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/sea-sparrow-rim-7-surface-to-air-missiles-are-headed-to-ukraine I got a theory that will make you cross-eyed. In the BUK TELAR destruction Twitter post a few pages back, Ukrainian War Tracker alleges UA is using the TELARs as stand alone systems because of the lack of battery radars and the TELs are sitting idle. What if, and this is a big what if let me tell you, they've figured out a way to jury-rig the Sparrows onto the TELs and integrate those TELs with the Skyguard system(s) that Italy is sending/has sent. Skyguard already works with RIM-7/AIM-7. Poland already did the Sea Sparrow/Buk integration groundwork. How different is RIM from AIM? I like the way you think. It could be a possibility. 
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:19:11 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Very possibly part of the "Franken SAM" project. Posted here back in January. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/sea-sparrow-rim-7-surface-to-air-missiles-are-headed-to-ukraine This is good stuff. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:22:35 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Using a shotgun!!!!!! I’ll bet it’s Turkish made :-) |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:24:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Here come a shitload of Taurus Stealth cruise missiles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Here come a shitload of Taurus Stealth cruise missiles. Hmmm, at this point I imagine it is all but impossible for Russian to come out of this with any sort of victory. Ukraine has superiority in fires, IAD, tanks, IFVs, eventually Jets. It's all over but for when Russia finally realizes it. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:39:58 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: We are there... 
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:49:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Hmmm, at this point I imagine it is all but impossible for Russian to come out of this with any sort of victory. Ukraine has superiority in fires, IAD, tanks, IFVs, eventually Jets. It's all over but for when Russia finally realizes it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Here come a shitload of Taurus Stealth cruise missiles. Hmmm, at this point I imagine it is all but impossible for Russian to come out of this with any sort of victory. Ukraine has superiority in fires, IAD, tanks, IFVs, eventually Jets. It's all over but for when Russia finally realizes it. Yep. None of the math works in Russia’s favor. Their one last advantage was more manpower but the last mobilization has fallen far short. Putin is working hard to avoid talk of a general mobilization because he knows it will not work. The urbanites are NOT going to line up as meat sacks to defend the border provinces, let alone defend “Russian claimed” territories in Ukraine. Now it is just pride and Putin’s self-preservation the keeps this war going on. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Well I guess Gungans or fish are the masterminds for Ukraine then. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Definitely Gungans. They have a track record of pulling off upset wins against steep odds. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 4:55:09 PM EDT
[#25]
Crazy! No one can complain about aid to Ukraine when we are sending billions to China and Russia! WTAF??!!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-govt-sent-1-3-billion-china-russia-gender-equality-cat-experiments-wuhan-lab-research Excerpt: The analysis revealed that millions of taxpayer dollars have been given to, among others, a Chinese software developer for military tech support, a Russian health insurance provider that has since been sanctioned and Chinese agriculture companies. And it showed the federal government gave $2 million, more than previously reported, to the Chinese state-run Wuhan lab studying bat coronaviruses. "Washington’s continued spending is so out of hand, it is losing track of Americans’ hard-earned taxpayer dollars, but I am creating accountability for every penny," Ernst said in a statement after releasing the report. "It is gravely concerning that no one in Washington can actually account for millions sent to Russia and China for pointless projects," the Iowa Republican continued. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large US to provide Ukraine more air defense systems, ammunition following upsurge in Russian attacks. U.S. National Security Council Spokesperson John Kirby announced during a White House press briefing on May 31 that the U.S. would provide Ukraine with more air defense in response to Russia's upsurge of attacks over the past month. Avenger has been there for a few months, Sparrow is being used to substitute for BUK missiles on modified BUK TELs. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:03:06 PM EDT
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Why not a 12 ga. auto shooting flechet darts? The drones can't be very tough. Darts made of DU should have almost a 200 yard range if you start them off around 1400 fps. Sure would seem easier than getting a hit of a AR or AK.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:04:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
[#28]
Good God, I hope Blabber Mouth Milley doesn’t, well…blabber mouth all this. 😬
He’s probably already called Xi to give him a heads up.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:11:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Holy crap, a 12ga, and based on the lag time from shot to explosion ne may have actually gotten it! |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:13:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: We are there... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away. We are there... Not even close. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:16:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmyInfantryVet]
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 Refinery ignites after alleged drone strike inside Russia’s border Well I'm all in favor of this, but....it'll probably drive up prices at the gas pump. Yes? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:20:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Good God, I hope Blabber Mouth Milley doesn’t, well…blabber mouth all this. 😬 He’s probably already called Xi to give him a heads up.
Way too trusting of Milley. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:23:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: That was pretty close considering. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:24:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Way too trusting of Milley. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Good God, I hope Blabber Mouth Milley doesn’t, well…blabber mouth all this. 😬 He’s probably already called Xi to give him a heads up.
Way too trusting of Milley. I've hated him for years. Wanat, the 7.62 battle rifle and NGSW debacles, his actions towards China during the end of the Trump presidency (I hate Trump, but what Milley did was borderline treasonous), and his overall demeanor rub me the wrong way. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:49:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large Aim7 missiles? Our funeral |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:01:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: I've hated him for years. Wanat, the 7.62 battle rifle and NGSW debacles, his actions towards China during the end of the Trump presidency (I hate Trump, but what Milley did was borderline treasonous), and his overall demeanor rub me the wrong way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By RockNwood: Good God, I hope Blabber Mouth Milley doesn’t, well…blabber mouth all this. 😬 He’s probably already called Xi to give him a heads up.
Way too trusting of Milley. I've hated him for years. Wanat, the 7.62 battle rifle and NGSW debacles, his actions towards China during the end of the Trump presidency (I hate Trump, but what Milley did was borderline treasonous), and his overall demeanor rub me the wrong way. Exactly this. And he seems way too much of a publicity whore. A general calling Chinese leader behind and counter to ANY president should have been lined up for a firing squad. The military does NOT over-rule the civilian Commander. Ever. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Aim7 missiles? Our funeral Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large Aim7 missiles? Our funeral Everyone knows you can’t defeat 1980s aircraft with 2023 missiles!! Ya gots to bring out the 1980s missiles so they can see them!! |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:06:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Aim7 missiles? Our funeral Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Aim7 missiles? Our funeral lol The latest software version of the AIM-7M is the H-Build that has been produced since 1987 and incorporates additional improvements in guidance |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:09:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What's the right shot for drones? #2? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:14:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Aim7 missiles? Our funeral Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxebir_XwAIEjSP?format=jpg&name=large Aim7 missiles? Our funeral I know right! What are we going to shoot at people's liberation army navy army air force planes after we run out of slammers and BFM-only Wednesday is a bust? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:17:51 PM EDT
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😂. Macron desperate to be diplomatically relevant!! Very very late for that monsieur!
How is it rocket science or even news to recognize the threat you have lived under for 75 years? Yes 2022 was the year. What you feared has happened. You fell asleep while others were manning the ramparts. Don’t stumble around groggy trying to lead people when you barely can keep your eyes open. Shut up and follow those in front. But your actual military assistance is noted and appreciated.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: 😂 Were they planning to USE them otherwise? I was thinking the same thing. The war is in Ukraine. The war all of these things were built for is in Ukraine. Now is the time to send things to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:18:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By birdbarian: What's the right shot for drones? #2? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By birdbarian: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What's the right shot for drones? #2? Tungsten!! 
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:21:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Over water.. seriously over water rights of the helmand river Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: 😂. Macron desperate to be diplomatically relevant!! Very very late for that monsieur! How is it rocket science or even news to recognize the threat you have lived under for 75 years? Yes 2022 was the year. What you feared has happened. You fell asleep while others were manning the ramparts. Don’t stumble around groggy trying to lead people when you barely can keep your eyes open. Shut up and follow those in front. But your actual military assistance is noted and appreciated.
Macron's rhetoric has been awful thus far. He's argued in favor of giving Putin off ramps after Putin was given multiple of them and only chose to escalate, he's said that aid to Ukraine needs to be "reevaluated" if the counter offensive doesn't succeed, and various other idiocies. I really do hate that guy, although I don't think he's comprised like many in German government are. Instead, I think he's just French... |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:28:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Not even close. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away. We are there... Not even close. We are there … meaning the US … we will prop up Germany however we can. Russia is in check … soon to be check-mate. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:32:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Macron's rhetoric has been awful thus far. He's argued in favor of giving Putin off ramps after Putin was given multiple of them and only chose to escalate, he's said that aid to Ukraine needs to be "reevaluated" if the counter offensive doesn't succeed, and various other idiocies. I really do hate that guy, although I don't think he's comprised like many in German government are. Instead, I think he's just French... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: Originally Posted By RockNwood: 😂. Macron desperate to be diplomatically relevant!! Very very late for that monsieur! How is it rocket science or even news to recognize the threat you have lived under for 75 years? Yes 2022 was the year. What you feared has happened. You fell asleep while others were manning the ramparts. Don’t stumble around groggy trying to lead people when you barely can keep your eyes open. Shut up and follow those in front. But your actual military assistance is noted and appreciated.
Macron's rhetoric has been awful thus far. He's argued in favor of giving Putin off ramps after Putin was given multiple of them and only chose to escalate, he's said that aid to Ukraine needs to be "reevaluated" if the counter offensive doesn't succeed, and various other idiocies. I really do hate that guy, although I don't think he's comprised like many in German government are. Instead, I think he's just French... Yes France seems to have always derived great satisfaction working against the rest of the west and being cozy with the worst leaders. There is always money to be made when everyone else leaves the denizens’ field out of disgust. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:34:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jaehaerys]
[#48]
Super good article: Russians voicing support for 'special operation' while empathizing with mobilization dodgers. I'd really suggest giving it a read.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:39:02 PM EDT
[#49]
 Rare Video of Warmate Loitering Munition in Use -- Targeting Supply Trucks Near Kherson |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:41:30 PM EDT
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We publish a request from the editors of the ECU 11 channel and the answer:
Hello, Evgeny Viktorovich. Hello, colleagues from the press service. I have three questions: 1) Where is the point of the escalation of the conflict allowed by the West? 2) How do you think the conflict will end? 3) How then to shake hands at summits and establish trade and relations with those who send weapons against and impose sanctions against the inhabitants of Russia? We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin: "1. I believe that the point of the escalation of the conflict allowed by the West will soon be approaching, and this will be a serious full-scale conflict in which we will have to defend ourselves, if we analyze how things are going now. 2. The conflict, I am sure, will not end with the capture of Kyiv, again, analyzing the situation in which the current state of affairs is. 3. We won't have to shake hands at summits for a long, long time, because, as I've said many times, we need to understand that in terms of communicating with everyone else, we will be like North Korea. In terms of living standards, of course, we will be an order of magnitude higher, because we have everything we need on the territory.” https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3536 |
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