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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:48:53 PM EST
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Another really good article: United Russia and Partial Mobilization. The author's thesis is essentially that pro-war groups are gaining an increasing amount of influence over the Kremlin, and that they're causing the Kremlin to take actions it otherwise it wouldn't take. He also argues that the only way Russia can come away with a "win" is by giving up everything the war was meant to preserve.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:50:49 PM EST
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He needs a birthday surprise
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:54:06 PM EST
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:56:44 PM EST
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Apologies if this was already posted |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:57:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/IMG_20230531_184833_444_jpg-2835881.JPG Poland updating road signs to make Kaliningrad Kr lewiec again.  |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 5:59:34 PM EST
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🌐 Place: APP #Grayvoron
🗓 Date: ~22.05.2023 🇺🇦 Pіdrozdil: RDK 📌 Geolocation: 50.42916, 35.58934 📂 Description: A small video call on a recent work. APP Grayvoron, Bіlgorodskaya obl. ❗️Jerelo "A small but vivid video report on our past operation on the territory of the Belgorod region temporarily occupied by the Kremlin scum. In a day, we managed to take control of an area larger than the entire Bakhmut. So far, this is only a test of our strength, although during such " exercises "we were able to steal a new armored personnel carrier 82A! Further more! Glory to the RDK!" Subscribe | Chat channel https://t.me/WarArchive_ua/1471
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:01:22 PM EST
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Footage is out, but more were arrested for filming air defence activity in Kiev.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13x0cld/the_work_of_ukrainian_air_defense_over_kyiv_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:10:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Footage is out, but more were arrested for filming air defence activity in Kiev. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13x0cld/the_work_of_ukrainian_air_defense_over_kyiv_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb I’m not gonna lie, I would’ve filmed that too  |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:13:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: He needs a birthday surprise https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/390973/Screenshot_20230531-182524-216-2835873.png I bet you couldn't pay him enough to blow the candles out on a cake someone handed him |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:13:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsOdCBh96VsWell I'm all in favor of this, but....it'll probably drive up prices at the gas pump. Yes? No, domestic issue for the o.../russians. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:14:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: I’m not gonna lie, I would’ve filmed that too Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Footage is out, but more were arrested for filming air defence activity in Kiev. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13x0cld/the_work_of_ukrainian_air_defense_over_kyiv_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb I’m not gonna lie, I would’ve filmed that too That was pretty cool.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:15:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: Freiheit8472]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Tungsten!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1141-2835837.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By birdbarian: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What's the right shot for drones? #2? Tungsten!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1141-2835837.jpg I think having a couple semi auto shotguns max drone choke is a good idea for a squad. The dive bomb kamikaze and ones too high up (but not yet predator kinda class) are the ones that would worry me. I’d like to see some phased array microphones get tested out there for detection. Thats been looked at. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:15:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Footage is out, but more were arrested for filming air defence activity in Kiev. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/13x0cld/the_work_of_ukrainian_air_defense_over_kyiv_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb Wow. Pretty intense! |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:16:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grambosc: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/481717/IMG_20230531_184833_444_jpg-2835881.JPG Poland updating road signs to make Kaliningrad Królewiec again. GD they give me hope |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:19:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: I’m not gonna lie, I would’ve filmed that too Damn. That was a front row seat view of an interception. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:21:16 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ike838: No, domestic issue for the o.../russians. Roger that |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:22:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook:Here come a shitload of Taurus Stealth cruise missiles. German weapons being used in Russia for the first time since ww2 is white the interesting conundrum |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:29:44 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: German weapons being used in Russia for the first time since ww2 is white the interesting conundrum  We are all driving japanese, Korean, and German cars. What's the difference? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:46:03 PM EST
[#19]
Turns out the John Wick 12 gage might actually have a place on the modern battlefield
(And that sporting clays is suddenly relevant - an even bigger WTF) |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:50:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: j_hooker]
[#20]
*****June 22nd, 2023****
my UA offense square if we’re taking bets. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:51:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Hmmm, at this point I imagine it is all but impossible for Russian to come out of this with any sort of victory. Ukraine has superiority in fires, IAD, tanks, IFVs, eventually Jets. It's all over but for when Russia finally realizes it. I really can't understand what sustains their effort. It's as if the "second strongest army in the world" tried to grab Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin and, a year later are mired after grabbing the U.P. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:52:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Turns out the John Wick 12 gage might actually have a place on the modern battlefield (And that sporting clays is suddenly relevant - an even bigger WTF) The fact that it's taken this long for us to see a video of a shotgun kill on a drone probably indicates that there isn't. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:53:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: For quite a while now the russian government and church have been working together to cultivate the belief that russians are the real christians, the russian military is fighting for god, and everybody else is against them. Religious zealotry trumps all other beliefs. It's a smart move. Right from Ivan Iylan playbook... |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:53:47 PM EST
[#24]
Now.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:56:59 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Now.
It definitely feels like they're betting that they'll overwhelm Ukrainian air defense before they exhaust their stocks of missiles. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 6:57:28 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Now.
Thanks for the effort you continue to make posting in this thread. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:01:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Thanks for the effort you continue to make posting in this thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Now.
Thanks for the effort you continue to make posting in this thread. +1 |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:01:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#28]
Interceptions, these would be Iksandr or Kinzhal ballistic missiles.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:03:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#29]
Originally Posted By doc540: Thanks for the effort you continue to make posting in this thread. Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast: +1 Thanks everyone, this thread is a team effort. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:04:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:09:01 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: I really can't understand what sustains their effort. It's as if the "second strongest army in the world" tried to grab Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin and, a year later are mired after grabbing the U.P. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Hmmm, at this point I imagine it is all but impossible for Russian to come out of this with any sort of victory. Ukraine has superiority in fires, IAD, tanks, IFVs, eventually Jets. It's all over but for when Russia finally realizes it. I really can't understand what sustains their effort. It's as if the "second strongest army in the world" tried to grab Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin and, a year later are mired after grabbing the U.P. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:09:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tuckybill: Why not a 12 ga. auto shooting flechet darts? The drones can't be very tough. Darts made of DU should have almost a 200 yard range if you start them off around 1400 fps. Sure would seem easier than getting a hit of a AR or AK. How about an old M-79 shooting flechets? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:09:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j_hooker: *****June 22nd, 2023**** my UA offense square if we’re taking bets. 6/18/23. New moon. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:10:17 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: I really can't understand what sustains their effort. It's as if the "second strongest army in the world" tried to grab Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin and, a year later are mired after grabbing the U.P. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Hmmm, at this point I imagine it is all but impossible for Russian to come out of this with any sort of victory. Ukraine has superiority in fires, IAD, tanks, IFVs, eventually Jets. It's all over but for when Russia finally realizes it. I really can't understand what sustains their effort. It's as if the "second strongest army in the world" tried to grab Michigan, Illinois, and Wisconsin and, a year later are mired after grabbing the U.P. People think we are because of our governor, we wouldn't even have let them take the UP. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:10:22 PM EST
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:11:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What’s their final closure speed? They are more or less different variants of the same base weapon no? |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:13:37 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Let’s hope. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:15:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: We publish a request from the editors of the ECU 11 channel and the answer: Hello, Evgeny Viktorovich. Hello, colleagues from the press service. I have three questions: 1) Where is the point of the escalation of the conflict allowed by the West? 2) How do you think the conflict will end? 3) How then to shake hands at summits and establish trade and relations with those who send weapons against and impose sanctions against the inhabitants of Russia? We publish a comment by Evgeny Prigozhin: "1. I believe that the point of the escalation of the conflict allowed by the West will soon be approaching, and this will be a serious full-scale conflict in which we will have to defend ourselves, if we analyze how things are going now. 2. The conflict, I am sure, will not end with the capture of Kyiv, again, analyzing the situation in which the current state of affairs is. 3. We won't have to shake hands at summits for a long, long time, because, as I've said many times, we need to understand that in terms of communicating with everyone else, we will be like North Korea. In terms of living standards, of course, we will be an order of magnitude higher, because we have everything we need on the territory.” https://t.me/Prigozhin_hat/3536 Very strange that he’s more logical than anyone else in Russia, a d half the people here. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:15:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: What’s their final closure speed? They are more or less different variants of the same base weapon no? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What’s their final closure speed? They are more or less different variants of the same base weapon no? Air launched Kinzhal listed as mach 10. Ground launched Iksandr mach 6 or 7. And you are right, different variant of same weapon. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:18:24 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By treelow: Let’s hope. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By treelow: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Let’s hope. Everyone will know if they got through.  Shocking footage shows Russian ballistic missile destroying shopping mall in Kyiv, Ukraine |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:18:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Freiheit8472: I proposed a study on this once. I should slide it back in since drone fest kicked off last year! I think having a couple semi auto shotguns max drone choke is a good idea for a squad. The dive bomb kamikaze and ones too high up (but not yet predator kinda class) are the ones that would worry me. I'd like to see some phased array microphones get tested out there for detection. Thats been looked at. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:28:44 PM EST
[#42]
The time from the announcement of the air alert to the moment when the rockets entered Kyiv's airspace was approximately five minutes.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:30:31 PM EST
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:32:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
They're so desperate to get a patriot kill. 5 minutes flight time and still got shot down. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:33:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Someone is falling out of a window this weekend, for sure. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:34:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: It seems they want to completely shut down the Bundeswehr this year. There can't be much left to give away.  |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:37:14 PM EST
[#47]
Sounds interesting in video.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:51:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#48]
Falling debris.
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:52:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: RockNwood]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Air launched Kinzhal listed as mach 10. Ground launched Iksandr mach 6 or 7. And you are right, different variant of same weapon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What’s their final closure speed? They are more or less different variants of the same base weapon no? Air launched Kinzhal listed as mach 10. Ground launched Iksandr mach 6 or 7. And you are right, different variant of same weapon. I believe those are max velocities while under boost but rapidly lose it when descending. IIRC they drop below Mach 5 by the time they are approaching the target. They only “hypersonic” in a small segment of their flight. So really more of a quasi-hypersonic. Same basic missile as the Iskander (ground launch) which is not considered hypersonic at all. Only the air launch of the Kinzhal allows it it reach above Mach 5 briefly. It seems the Kinzhal is about as hypersonic as the Su-57 is stealth. From one source: It is worth noting that Russia’s designation of the Kinzhal as a “hypersonic” missile is somewhat misleading, as nearly all ballistic missiles reach hypersonic speeds (i.e. above Mach 5) at some point during their flight. |
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Posted: 5/31/2023 7:57:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: I believe those are max velocities while under boost but rapidly lose it when descending. IIRC they drop below Mach 5 by the time they are approaching the target. They only “hypersonic” in a small segment of their flight. So really more of a quasi-hypersonic. Same basic missile as the Iskander (ground launch) which is not considered hypersonic at all. Only the air launch of the Kinzhal allows it it reach above Mach 5 briefly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
What’s their final closure speed? They are more or less different variants of the same base weapon no? Air launched Kinzhal listed as mach 10. Ground launched Iksandr mach 6 or 7. And you are right, different variant of same weapon. I believe those are max velocities while under boost but rapidly lose it when descending. IIRC they drop below Mach 5 by the time they are approaching the target. They only “hypersonic” in a small segment of their flight. So really more of a quasi-hypersonic. Same basic missile as the Iskander (ground launch) which is not considered hypersonic at all. Only the air launch of the Kinzhal allows it it reach above Mach 5 briefly. You are right, getting down to the details. I misread Finslayers post as top speed. |
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