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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:05:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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 Fighters of the PVK Wagner, already in the city of Kolomna. It is 100 km to the abode of evil. 55.0966, 38.76406 (photo) UPD. Sorry, hit the bar. It's not Wagner, it's security forces. Thanks to the readers for correcting me. https://t.me/WarArchive_ua/2257 |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:06:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryAnd part 3.  The Russia Coup Part 3: Russia’s Global Footprint || Peter Zeihan |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:08:02 PM EDT
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ON, CAN
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:11:42 PM EDT
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Man. Wow just wow. Could see that the Wagner group would have eventually come to a head with RUS mod, but did not foresee a full coup style trajectory. But it is Russia, so, I guess it's not too far out of the realm of precedent.
I think the funny thing is watching the GD vatniks still spouting the same empty BS in the face of reality. Just shows how one note the low hanging fruit is. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:12:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:12:23 PM EDT
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ATESH movement got access to Moscow webcams
We share with the public a list and access keys to webcams in Moscow. Now everyone can follow the situation online! The main thing is to make popcorn! Join ATESH — we will take control of the situation into our own hands! https://t.me/atesh_ua/1108 Link to Excel document https://t.me/atesh_ua/1109 |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:12:33 PM EDT
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Yes, there are casualties.
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:13:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:14:26 PM EDT
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Ukrainian govt.
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:15:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:15:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:15:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigGrumpyBear: Will Gerard Butler make an appearance?  No. Steven Segal will star in that one... |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:17:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukrainian govt.
Seems to me that this situation at it's core is simply a fight to determine whether Russia continues the current strategy or (if Wagner triumphs) pivots to a much more effective and brutal campaign. Ukraine should probably be cheering for Putin. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:17:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:17:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:17:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By omar: I wonder what level of popular support his troops have in Russia proper. It's likely Wagner sympathizers - which appear to be substantial - would provide intelligence on their movements and activities. Kadyrov's troops have been abusing Russian civilians for a while. Hopefully the people are sick of their bullshit and fuck them up. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:18:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I guarantee Wagner controls S-300's. It had to be a top objective. That was the first thing I thought of when they took the airfield. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:18:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:21:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Hope so. I'm still paranoid that this could result in a more vicious russia. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:21:47 PM EDT
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Covered before, but Girkins assessment. Its another 3 day operation.
 
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:21:49 PM EDT
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It's not "martial law," it's "counter-terrorism measures." They really are too dumb to tie their own shoes. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: The “reorganization of reality” coping mechanism is fascinating to watch on this site. Some people on the right are just as mentally ill as the most insane leftist. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:25:04 PM EDT
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The last poll that OP posted was: How will Putin die? I voted coup.
@Jack67 you still out there bud? I think you were a coup vote also. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:25:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ArmyInfantryVet]
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Jesus, I might just stay here for the Russian Civil War updates. The GD Civil War thread is full of fucking kooks, forever Trumpers, and guys that enjoy giving oral sex to Putin
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:25:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Julian_JJE: Im with Torstin. I think the better play is to engage the front to tie them up and expend resources that are rapidly depleting. Maybe. I dont know what's happening on the front now. If the Russians are still active against the UA, kill them. But ideally, I'd rather Russians die in Russia instead of Ukraine. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: I think Tucker is busy preparing a spare bedroom for Vlad as we speak. Nah he will share the bed with Putin. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:26:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:26:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
I hope that is exactly how all of this plays out. I guess we will soon see how many sensible people there still are within Russia. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:27:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:27:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
“Hacked.” |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:28:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:29:57 PM EDT
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Just want to thank @AlmightyTallest for your superhuman effort to keep us all updating on Ukraine and now Russia.
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:30:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnh57: Hope so. I'm still paranoid that this could result in a more vicious russia. They can be as vicious as a rabid badger on meth and it won’t count for anything if all their limbs have compound fractures and their teeth have been stomped out. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:30:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matanzas: Seems to me that this situation at it's core is simply a fight to determine whether Russia continues the current strategy or (if Wagner triumphs) pivots to a much more effective and brutal campaign. Ukraine should probably be cheering for Putin. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matanzas: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukrainian govt.
Seems to me that this situation at it's core is simply a fight to determine whether Russia continues the current strategy or (if Wagner triumphs) pivots to a much more effective and brutal campaign. Ukraine should probably be cheering for Putin. LoL The entirety of the Russian army is made up of people that had never touched a gun a year ago. Prigozhin is a caterer and mob boss... The only effective strategy they have will result in their whole country being a glass covered, self lighting, parking lot |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:31:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:31:20 PM EDT
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You can track Wagner's advance on Google maps by the highway shutdowns on the M4.
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:32:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matanzas: Seems to me that this situation at it's core is simply a fight to determine whether Russia continues the current strategy or (if Wagner triumphs) pivots to a much more effective and brutal campaign. Ukraine should probably be cheering for Putin. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Matanzas: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukrainian govt.
Seems to me that this situation at it's core is simply a fight to determine whether Russia continues the current strategy or (if Wagner triumphs) pivots to a much more effective and brutal campaign. Ukraine should probably be cheering for Putin. I don’t think so. If wagner wins and prigozhin takes power, he will have to focus on keeping it, that means pulling out of Ukraine and consolidating domestic political power and building alliances. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:32:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AeroEngineer: Here’s my take on it: the events that are going on right now have a 0% chance of improving any of Russia’s capabilities on the front lines with Ukraine in the near term. However, what’s going down has significant chances of deteriorating Russia’s capability or willingness to fight in Ukraine in the next few days. I think that it’s probably a smart call by Ukraine to use a few days to regroup and assess the situation and plan. Who knows you may start seeing movement of troops back towards Crimea or Rostov, at least in certain units, and such a thing might naturally open a path for Ukraine to move forward. I guess the way I see it, there’s no real advantage for Ukraine attacking immediately, however, there could be a huge advantage opening up in the next 48 to 72 hours Yup. Even confused and disheartened RU troops will fight back if attacked. Let them sit and simmer since things are NOT getting better in Russia. At the very least, reinforcements and supplies are being diverted from the Ukraine front. In a few days when supplies are critical they may be easier to roll, even if they dont mutiny and head towards Moscow, which is actually possible. If your enemy is busy fighting himself, dont attack and interrupt them. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:33:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Jesus, I might just stay here for the Russian Civil War updates. The GD Civil War thread is full of fucking kooks, forever Trumpers, and guys that enjoy giving oral sex to Putin 
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:33:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Just want to thank @AlmightyTallest for your superhuman effort to keep us all updating on Ukraine and now Russia. Thanks man, I appreciate the nod, but there are a lot of others here that make this thread and the info it contains great, including yourself. 
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:33:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpacman: This thread started with a poll on how things would end with Putin. Most thought he would always remain in power. Although things might be a bit premature, I would like the opportunity to go back and change my choice! I voted Coup! |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:34:14 PM EDT
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Time for a little music on the march to Moscow.
  Rammstein - Moskau (Official Lyric Video) |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:34:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Jesus, I might just stay here for the Russian Civil War updates. The GD Civil War thread is full of fucking kooks, forever Trumpers, and guys that enjoy giving oral sex to Putin Good news is its easier to spot the paid russian agitator's. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:34:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: LoL The entirety of the Russian army is made up of people that had never touched a gun a year ago. Prigozhin is a caterer and mob boss... The only effective strategy they have will result in their whole country being a glass covered, self lighting, parking lot Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By Matanzas: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukrainian govt.
Seems to me that this situation at it's core is simply a fight to determine whether Russia continues the current strategy or (if Wagner triumphs) pivots to a much more effective and brutal campaign. Ukraine should probably be cheering for Putin. LoL The entirety of the Russian army is made up of people that had never touched a gun a year ago. Prigozhin is a caterer and mob boss... The only effective strategy they have will result in their whole country being a glass covered, self lighting, parking lot It's pretty foolish to dismiss the only effective leader Russian forces have had in a decade but you do you. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:35:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:36:18 PM EDT
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Russian TG
Of the interesting things that we noticed - so far there has not been a single video with columns of heavy equipment of the Ministry of Defense - tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, artillery and others. All that can be observed over the past day is the relatively light equipment of the units of the Russian Guard, in the face of armored vehicles BTR-80 and BTR-82A, as well as various armored vehicles, such as Tigers, Uralov-VV, Patrols. From the army, only the aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces, represented by Ka-52 helicopters and Su-34 bombers, demonstrated attempts to strike at Wagner PMC columns. However, there are certain difficulties with this, both due to the fact that Prigozhin’s troops have their own anti-aircraft systems, such as the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system or the Strela-10 air defense system, and because of the fast movement speed of PMC columns mixed with civilians. In turn, the Wagners have a certain amount of heavy armored vehicles, in the form of T-72B3 tanks, BMP-2 and BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles, as well as BTR-82A armored personnel carriers and a large number of light vehicles. Thus, in the event of a direct collision between the Wagner PMC and the checkpoints of the National Guard and the police set up in their path (which I would not like very much), the advantage will not be with the state security forces. Military Informant https://t.me/milinfolive/102686 |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: It's pretty foolish to dismiss the only effective leader Russian forces have had in a decade but you do you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Originally Posted By Matanzas: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Ukrainian govt.
Seems to me that this situation at it's core is simply a fight to determine whether Russia continues the current strategy or (if Wagner triumphs) pivots to a much more effective and brutal campaign. Ukraine should probably be cheering for Putin. LoL The entirety of the Russian army is made up of people that had never touched a gun a year ago. Prigozhin is a caterer and mob boss... The only effective strategy they have will result in their whole country being a glass covered, self lighting, parking lot It's pretty foolish to dismiss the only effective leader Russian forces have had in a decade but you do you. That's not really a high bar though. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: But do we want a devil we know or a devil we don’t know? Putin, like Hitler, was his own worst enemy. With Prigozhin we might get a guy who knows what he’s doing. Prigozhin has said the war on Ukraine was based on lies and was never necessary. I dont see him or any "new" leader eager to continue this disaster. I think even Putin would use this as an excuse to pull out from Ukraine, if he could. Worst case scenario (some new leader takes over and continues the war in Ukraine) Russia will still be weaker w/o Wagner and most likely will benefit Ukraine. |
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Posted: 6/24/2023 12:36:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
wonder what the roads look like |
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