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Posted: 7/3/2023 7:49:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Pretty disgusting thread in gd about a marine that died in Ukraine. I suggest you avoid it. thanks |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 7:51:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 7:54:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PMB1086:
GREAT video. Slightly longer version.
Dmitri translation.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 7:59:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Shitheads with Patriot missiles.  Only 4, when absolutely no one else could get them.  Notice the 3 FAB bomb markings as well. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 8:20:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Only 4, when absolutely one one else could get them. Notice the 3 FAB bomb markings as well. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 7/3/2023 8:36:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: I'm seeing a gradual shift in the Hungarian right wing news talking about the war. -Ukraine can win -Navalny needs to be released -Orcs can't hide from its incredible losses. -The counter-offensive is working -Orcs are losing a ton of equipment -THE victims this and the victims that. No more right wing bullshit conspiracy theories on NATO and biolabs.  .... there is a strong desire to be 'not wrong'; ie on the winning side my assessment is 'they' are realizing how this is going to end and they want to be able in 6 months to say -- 'see we knew this was happening...' |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 8:43:09 AM EDT
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Girkin said that as a result of the arrival of the Russian world in the Donbass in 2014, famine began there. And many pensioners were dying in their apartments from lack of food and medicine.
Under "fascist Ukraine" no one died of hunger, but then Russia decided to "save the Donbass" and it began ...
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Posted: 7/3/2023 8:48:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: I don't think they are making a practice of using Patriot on the drones, but proving you can makes a certain statement. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lightning_P38: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Only 4, when absolutely one one else could get them. Notice the 3 FAB bomb markings as well. I agree, basically during a real fight the missile,drone, and aircraft kills are going to be spread out among the various air defense systems. We have images of Gepards with multiple Shahed kills, as well as a few cruise missiles. So at some point, the cost has been absorbed by one system using cheaper methods of destruction which allows a bigger system to use it's expensive missile on a cheap enemy system to help protect something that was vital to save. tldr, it's all tends to even out in the end.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 8:52:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Posted: 7/3/2023 8:53:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 8:57:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: GREAT video. Slightly longer version.
Dmitri translation.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By PMB1086:
GREAT video. Slightly longer version.
Dmitri translation.
Yeah, great video! These Ukrainians are still able to keep their humanness.  Could have killed all of them. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:00:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:10:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:12:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: If the US and NATO would give the Ukrainian military what it’s been asking for to hit way behind the Russian lines, this war will be over quite soon. But for some reason the Biden administration is scared. I think you have summed it up well. My theory is that Xiden wants this war to go slow and steady without any quick UA victory and keeps Zelensky on the hook and dependent on HIM so he doesnt complain or bring up Biden Hunter and DNC shenanigans in Ukraine. Zelensky ran on an anti-corruption platform and Biden was even named as a suspect in a corruption probe. Had Trump been re-elected, I think a LOT of dirt would have come out. All of that disappeared and the Bidens need to keep a lid on it. "Z...dont bite the hand that feeds you, even a little aid is better than none" |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:18:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: thanks Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By ludder093: Pretty disgusting thread in gd about a marine that died in Ukraine. I suggest you avoid it. thanks I would think the site would like to avoid such things as well. I guess it's cool to bash US servicemen that believe in standing up for those that need help. Classless fucks |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:19:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:21:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:23:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: All of those withdrawn troops manning a much shortened line in Crimea would make it very, very hard to penetrate. It would be a stalemate but a Ukrainian victory. True. I dont see Ukraine taking Crimea head on. Too costly. Both the Germans then the Soviets had a hard time taking Crimea in WWII. I can see a sustained bombing campaign though making life miserable for the occupiers and civilians would flee effectively making Crimea worthless to Russia. In the end I think Crimea will be decided through negotiations. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:24:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
He is exactly right. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:24:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:29:29 AM EDT
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BAKHMUT AXIS /1315 UTC 3 JUL/ UKR maintains control of the pace of battle in the Bakhmut Area of Operations. RU attacks on the M-03 axis were defeated at Orikhovo-Vasylivka. RU attacks at Bohdanivka were broken up. UKR forces are have exploited a weekend breakthrough against Russian VDV units and are engaged on the high ground near Klischiivka. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:30:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:31:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: I'm seeing a gradual shift in the Hungarian right wing news talking about the war. -Ukraine can win -Navalny needs to be released -Orcs can't hide from its incredible losses. -The counter-offensive is working -Orcs are losing a ton of equipment -THE victims this and the victims that. No more right wing bullshit conspiracy theories on NATO and biolabs. I was curious if any other neutralish countries news organizations are saying the same thing. Apparently reading the Swiss setups, they are also saying the same thing as the Hungarian news orgs. My feelings is that during the NATO summit, something is going to happen. Before all of this, it was a neutralish bullshit saying ohh Ukraine gained ..Orcs are stronger and canned sunshine is close. Now it's all Ukraine strong ..Ape 💪 United...blah blah blah. Good news. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:32:11 AM EDT
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Guy from the mine leg amputation video.
 ‼️ Everyone remembers this video... The hero's name is Oleg Horpinyak. Judging by his Facebook profile, he was born in Donetsk, lived in Mariupol. He worked as an SMM officer, in November 2022 he volunteered in the newly created 🐉 47th "Magura" brigade. This is how Oleg remembers that day: "We were on our way to the Bradley to evacuate the wounded. There were three of us, and I had a large medical backpack. I showed the two medics where the tourniquets and the hemostatic bandage were. Then I started watching the monitor to get a rough idea of the terrain. I noticed that my friends were visibly nervous. It was obvious that I would go first. So we stopped. I took the stretcher out of my backpack and waited for the ramp to open. It seemed to me that an eternity had passed... The moment of truth had come. The ramp opened. I got out and stood on the gangway. I saw that one of my wounded comrades was lying to my left. I thought that I should get closer to him and noticed a tear from the explosion, jumped into the funnel and landed, but my right leg could not withstand the weight of the armor and the soil... |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:32:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:35:08 AM EDT
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General Hodges is a treasure in a sea of insanity and shitty Policy emanating from DC. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:36:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: there is a strong desire to be 'not wrong'; ie on the winning side my assessment is 'they' are realizing how this is going to end and they want to be able in 6 months to say -- 'see we knew this was happening...' I guess better late than never. I'm VERY disappointed it took so long. Really, Hungary should be bad-mouthing Russia more than anyone from past experience. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:37:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1675860567418970113
Efficiency of the counter-battery fire of the HIMARS GMLRS. -1 Russian 203mm 2S7M Pion SPG and 3 BM-21 Grad. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:37:09 AM EDT
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Moar!
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:41:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:51:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:56:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4xGM300m]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Only 4, when absolutely no one else could get them. Notice the 3 FAB bomb markings as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Shitheads with Patriot missiles. Only 4, when absolutely no one else could get them. Notice the 3 FAB bomb markings as well. FAB bomb markings?  |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:57:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
General Hodges is a treasure in a sea of insanity and shitty Policy emanating from DC.[/quot e]I love this idea |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 9:58:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CenterMass762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0HZhgIXwAIIKL7?format=jpg&name=small  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:01:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: FAB bomb markings? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Shitheads with Patriot missiles. Only 4, when absolutely no one else could get them. Notice the 3 FAB bomb markings as well. FAB bomb markings?  Under the red arrow dated May 21 2023, I thought that was an aircraft dropped bomb.  |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:03:35 AM EDT
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Man ... seeing how the Ukies are equipped vs the Russians ... Russia should be ASHAMED of sending their man ill-equipped as they are ...
Having said that ... Ukies weren't equipped well either prior to 2022 ... |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:08:02 AM EDT
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Did... did the Javelin just score a Helicopter kill?
https://news.yahoo.com/marines-shoot-down-russian-helicopter-085145312.html Quote: "The 309th Russian helicopter was shot down by the marines of the 36th Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Bilynskyi." Details: It is noted that an anti-tank brigade of the Ukrainian Marines shot down the Alligator Ka-52 helicopter using a Javelin system on the Berdiansk front. Ukrainska Pravda reported that this happened on Sunday, 2 July. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:09:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Haub: Did... did the Javelin just score a Helicopter kill? https://news.yahoo.com/marines-shoot-down-russian-helicopter-085145312.html Quote: "The 309th Russian helicopter was shot down by the marines of the 36th Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Bilynskyi." Details: It is noted that an anti-tank brigade of the Ukrainian Marines shot down the Alligator Ka-52 helicopter using a Javelin system on the Berdiansk front. Ukrainska Pravda reported that this happened on Sunday, 2 July. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Haub: Did... did the Javelin just score a Helicopter kill? https://news.yahoo.com/marines-shoot-down-russian-helicopter-085145312.html Quote: "The 309th Russian helicopter was shot down by the marines of the 36th Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Bilynskyi." Details: It is noted that an anti-tank brigade of the Ukrainian Marines shot down the Alligator Ka-52 helicopter using a Javelin system on the Berdiansk front. Ukrainska Pravda reported that this happened on Sunday, 2 July. They certainly can. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-21-94/appf.htm The Javelin can destroy targets from medium ranges (65 to 2,000 meters), including helicopters and fortified positions. The platoon leader also can use the Javelin's imaging infrared (I2R) sight capability to conduct surveillance of critical avenues of approach in all types of weather. The Javelin also may be used to engage bunkers, buildings, and other fortified targets commonly found during combat in built-up areas. F-10. SELF-DEFENSE AGAINST HELICOPTERS Because Javelin positions are selected to cover enemy armor avenues of approach, the medium-range fields of fire afforded by these positions also enable Javelin gunners to engage aircraft. a. Weapons Control Status. The weapons control status established for air defense weapons applies to Javelin gunners, too. Unless ordered otherwise, gunners should fire in unit self-defense only; for example, only engage aircraft that are attacking friendly positions. b. Self-Defense Engagements. A Javelin gunner can automatically engage an enemy helicopter that is attacking its position. The gunner's target engagement sequence is the same as against ground targets. The Javelin should be in the direct-attack mode when engaging helicopters. The rotors of the helicopter may interfere with the sensors of the missile in the top-attack mode and result in erratic flight of the missile and a target miss. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:12:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://mil.in.ua/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Polish_20230703_111331982.jpg Under the red arrow dated May 21 2023, I thought that was an aircraft dropped bomb. These are the Mi-8 EW helicopters.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:15:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: These are the Mi-8 EW helicopters. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://mil.in.ua/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Polish_20230703_111331982.jpg Under the red arrow dated May 21 2023, I thought that was an aircraft dropped bomb. These are the Mi-8 EW helicopters. The arrow is pointing to those, you are correct, now look under that arrow, next to the Su-34, that fat bomb thing.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:16:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Haub: Did... did the Javelin just score a Helicopter kill? https://news.yahoo.com/marines-shoot-down-russian-helicopter-085145312.html Quote: "The 309th Russian helicopter was shot down by the marines of the 36th Marine Brigade named after Rear Admiral Mykhailo Bilynskyi." Details: It is noted that an anti-tank brigade of the Ukrainian Marines shot down the Alligator Ka-52 helicopter using a Javelin system on the Berdiansk front. Ukrainska Pravda reported that this happened on Sunday, 2 July. I wonder if the design team ever imagined a helo shoot down with a Javelin? |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:23:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: The arrow is pointing to those, you are correct, now look under that arrow, next to the Su-34, that fat bomb thing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://mil.in.ua/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Polish_20230703_111331982.jpg Under the red arrow dated May 21 2023, I thought that was an aircraft dropped bomb. These are the Mi-8 EW helicopters. The arrow is pointing to those, you are correct, now look under that arrow, next to the Su-34, that fat bomb thing. I think these are S-300 or S-400 missiles and not FAB bombs. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:24:33 AM EDT
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He is definitely receiving treatment, but he ain't on his deathbed.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:27:04 AM EDT
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Here is a link to Ukraine on fire for the lurkers that have never seen it. It is worth the watch.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:31:21 AM EDT
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That's one way of clearing a hangfire 😳
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:39:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Yep. If they can get to the Azov sea they control everything. They can lock Russia navy back into Rostov by commanding the entire Azov. They can also strike the Kerch straits and bridge. That would mean no ships to Crimea, no trains and no trucks. Mariupol would be a golden ticket to total victory. That’s why Russia spent 2-3 months obliterating any resistance there. That’s probably the key strategic lynchpin for the war. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:39:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Man ... seeing how the Ukies are equipped vs the Russians ... Russia should be ASHAMED of sending their man ill-equipped as they are ... Having said that ... Ukies weren't equipped well either prior to 2022 ... Russia has no shame. Russia doesn’t see their soldiers as men, just meat. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 10:45:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Right but... all the men in the world won't matter if they can't get ammo, food, medicine, etc... Russia can't protect the kerch strait connection. If they lose the land bridge, Crimea loses logistical connection to the rest of Russia, doesn't it? They can re supply by sea. Remember the battle for the island of Malta in WWII? |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 11:01:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: governmentman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: They can re supply by sea. Remember the battle for the island of Malta in WWII? In the modern era of long range missiles, constant sat surveillance, and suicide drones (air and boat); ship losses would be completely unsustainable for Russia even if enough got through initially to maintain supply of Crimea. Not to mention anything actually docking in Crimea would be in range and a sitting duck in that scenario. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 11:04:04 AM EDT
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