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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 8:19:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
If the Russians are going to fabricate a meltdown, they will wait for the prevailing winds to be blowing northwest. Was southwest all day today.

It's kinda a bold strategy Cotton. Little weather hiccup and Donetsk and Rostov-on-Don get all glowie.
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@THOT_Vaccine (Mentioning because I'm really curious)

Why would they want winds to be blowing northwest? Wouldn't that be blowing radioactive material near Russia?

Wouldn't it make more sense to do it now while they're blowing southwest, so contamination blows further into Ukraine and hurts Ukrainian civilians and soldiers?
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 8:21:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly:


This is where all of that "wasted" time fighting insurgencies will pay off, if we bring the lessons learned forward.  The next war will not have a defined front/FLOT, and everyone; Grunts, Loggies, Staff weenies, Clerks, etc, will have to function like they are in forward positions, as the enemy tactical "reach" will be tens or even hundreds of miles from the main battle.  Comms, ADA and EW assets will be critical, and resupply and rear staging will become extremely complex.
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I agree. While production of ammo is hard,  adversary space imagery and smart munitions, directed against friendly C2, and especially log....I dont have an answer. At all.
That should give some people pause and promote a deterrence effect, as its really hard to see an expeditionary operation where the strategic gain is worth the massive casualties we could see...we shall see.
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 8:30:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Toybasher:
@THOT_Vaccine (Mentioning because I'm really curious)

Why would they want winds to be blowing northwest? Wouldn't that be blowing radioactive material near Russia?

Wouldn't it make more sense to do it now while they're blowing southwest, so contamination blows further into Ukraine and hurts Ukrainian civilians and soldiers?
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Originally Posted By Toybasher:
Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
If the Russians are going to fabricate a meltdown, they will wait for the prevailing winds to be blowing northwest. Was southwest all day today.

It's kinda a bold strategy Cotton. Little weather hiccup and Donetsk and Rostov-on-Don get all glowie.
@THOT_Vaccine (Mentioning because I'm really curious)

Why would they want winds to be blowing northwest? Wouldn't that be blowing radioactive material near Russia?

Wouldn't it make more sense to do it now while they're blowing southwest, so contamination blows further into Ukraine and hurts Ukrainian civilians and soldiers?


Had to recheck my mental map there for a sec
Poland = North
Black Sea and Sevastopol = South

West Southwest and straight Southwest = All over their shiny new trenches and tank traps
Everything East shits all over mother(fuck)russia
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 8:34:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



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Oh hell yes!  Way creepy!

Link Posted: 7/4/2023 8:38:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:18:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Like watching museum pieces rolling by.

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Wait….. wait, not being a tank guy I assumed the T-55 was protyped in 1955….  It was developed right after WW2…. LOL!!
Oh, shit that’s bad….
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:24:16 PM EDT
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That sounds too low to me, but whatever it is, it clearly isn't enough.
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:26:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By iggy1337:
Russia's 'oceanographic research' vessel currently hanging around in the waters of the Dutch Exclusive Economic Zone.





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Perhaps it needs a visit
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:30:51 PM EDT
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fake news

the coup attempt has actually strengthened Putin and re-galvanized support for the special operation.



(sarcasm)
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:35:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Birddog15:




Oh hell yes!  Way creepy!

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Originally Posted By Birddog15:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Slow mo version.







Oh hell yes!  Way creepy!

Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:45:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By iggy1337:
Russia's 'oceanographic research' vessel currently hanging around in the waters of the Dutch Exclusive Economic Zone.

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Probably just looking for shoal areas like I used to do back in the day.
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:55:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By j_hooker:

Wait….. wait, not being a tank guy I assumed the T-55 was protyped in 1955….  It was developed right after WW2…. LOL!!
Oh, shit that’s bad….
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It’s worse than that. The 55 is only a minor update of the 54, and the 54 was produced as a prototype before the war was over.
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:57:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Originally Posted By Birddog15:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Slow mo version.







Oh hell yes!  Way creepy!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0OjBlTWIAA4WjZ?format=jpg&name=large

That inspired me...

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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 9:58:09 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for July 4th.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-july-4-2023

Ukrainian forces appear to be focusing on creating an asymmetrical attrition gradient that conserves Ukrainian manpower at the cost of a slower rate of territorial gains, while gradually wearing down Russian manpower and equipment. Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council Secretary Oleksiy Danilov reported on July 4 that Ukrainian forces are performing their main task of destroying Russian manpower, equipment, fuel depots, artillery, and air defenses and that a “war of destruction is equal to a war of kilometers.”

[1] Danilov’s assessment underlines the prioritization of Ukraine’s ongoing campaign to attrit Russian manpower and assets over attempting to conduct massive sweeping mechanized maneuvers to regain large swaths of territory rapidly. NATO Military Committee Chair Admiral Bob Bauer reported on July 3 that Ukrainian forces are correct to proceed cautiously and avoid high casualties in the counteroffensive and acknowledged that the counteroffensive is difficult due to landmines and other obstacles up to 30km deep into Russian-occupied territory.[2] Bauer stated that Ukrainian forces should not face criticism or pressure for moving slowly.
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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 10:21:03 PM EDT
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In honor of a people willing to fight and die for their freedom:

???? Ukrainian Song - "???? ????? ?????" [English Translation] Slava Ukraini!
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 10:29:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:

It's worse than that. The 55 is only a minor update of the 54, and the 54 was produced as a prototype before the war was over.
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:
Originally Posted By j_hooker:

Wait .. wait, not being a tank guy I assumed the T-55 was protyped in 1955 .  It was developed right after WW2 . LOL!!
Oh, shit that's bad .

It's worse than that. The 55 is only a minor update of the 54, and the 54 was produced as a prototype before the war was over.
They are a great improvisation for mobile small'ish caliber artillery.
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 10:33:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 10:37:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:




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Admit it, you read that in his voice.
Link Posted: 7/4/2023 10:40:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:
In honor of a people willing to fight and die for their freedom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3FTIfcQlNM
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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 10:58:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By j_hooker:

Thanks for all your time and effort, I always look forward to the posting
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I think it's more useful now that twitter is fucked.  Twitter (and telegram) may get most stuff first, but everything will end up on Reddit shortly.  The recent trench sweepers video actually broke on Reddit AFAIK. I also still refuse to sign up to twitter.
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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 11:29:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 11:37:22 PM EDT
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Initial Russian attacks on Kiev

May they never be forgotten.

Daughter was cut in half instantly.

Mom's leg was blown off and she died a day later.

Russian artillery or mortar





Link Posted: 7/4/2023 11:46:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/4/2023 11:50:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:


What a tease not test firing for the camera. Reddit comments link one up for purchase somewhere in the us in 2015.
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:


What a tease not test firing for the camera. Reddit comments link one up for purchase somewhere in the us in 2015.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/IMG_8981-2874255.pnghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/IMG_8980-2874256.png

I've seen this one before!

Sons of Guns Shotgun Gatling Gun T
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 12:06:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2023 12:08:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

I've seen this one before!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct4wwgQl_ko
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:
Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:


What a tease not test firing for the camera. Reddit comments link one up for purchase somewhere in the us in 2015.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/IMG_8981-2874255.pnghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539199/IMG_8980-2874256.png

I've seen this one before!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct4wwgQl_ko


It’s so feasible it’s irresistible! Wonder if guns laws address this modification?
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 12:26:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:


What a tease not test firing for the camera. Reddit comments link one up for purchase somewhere in the us in 2015. It’s a drone shooter for sure.
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Looks like a monstrosity made on the red jacket TV show suns of guns
It was done before
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 12:37:44 AM EDT
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Damn... that one is not for the squeamish.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:01:33 AM EDT
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Ooold video. July of 2022. Still a goodie
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:03:33 AM EDT
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Looks like late winter or early spring.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:09:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:

It’s worse than that. The 55 is only a minor update of the 54, and the 54 was produced as a prototype before the war was over.
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:
Originally Posted By j_hooker:

Wait….. wait, not being a tank guy I assumed the T-55 was protyped in 1955….  It was developed right after WW2…. LOL!!
Oh, shit that’s bad….

It’s worse than that. The 55 is only a minor update of the 54, and the 54 was produced as a prototype before the war was over.


The British and Americans got a taste of the T-54 during the 1956 Hungarian Revolution when rebels seized a tank and drove it to the British embassy grounds.

T-54 Tank Heist - Stealing Soviet Secrets


The problem is that even with the tank being studied, they measured it wrong and they all assumed that the L7 105mm cannon was enough.

Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:09:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck:

That inspired me...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/tropic_jpg-2874171.JPG
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You magnificent bastard.


Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:14:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
If that plant goes up Poland will invoke article 5 and its on.
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How are they going to get it past Hungary and Turkey? Who knows what Orban and Ergodan will want.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:36:20 AM EDT
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Sounds like this will make no impact as it is just reorganizing existing naval troops. But it is likely to become a Russia STRONK narrative.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:39:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By doc540:
Initial Russian attacks on Kiev

May they never be forgotten.

Daughter was cut in half instantly.

Mom's leg was blown off and she died a day later.

Russian artillery or mortar

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/ukraine_Liza_Dmytriyeva2-2874246.jpg

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/ukraine_liza3-2874248.jpg

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Question: How many and what kinds of land mines or other "banned" weapons can Ukraine use, on their own territory, to repel an invading force?

Answer: All of them.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:47:53 AM EDT
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Move over ERA FlorkBros!!  Woody Woodpecker enters the chat!
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:56:19 AM EDT
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I like this chart with the %destroyed. However, since we have seen much of the Russian stored equipment and munition are badly deteriorated it seems safe to deduct 1:3 from that reserve. Therefore, items already eating into reserves such as tanks and artillery are in reality +10-20% added to the percent shown.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 1:59:57 AM EDT
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Good that they are laying the groundwork for war crimes prosecution and setting priorities. They will have a mountain of evidence and testimonies to sift through.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 2:07:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
I like this chart with the %destroyed. However, since we have seen much of the Russian stored equipment and munition are badly deteriorated it seems safe to deduct 1:3 from that reserve. Therefore, items already eating into reserves such as tanks and artillery are in reality +10-20% added to the percent shown.
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9 MLRS is a big deviation from avg. I wonder what happened there.
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 2:08:01 AM EDT
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A little more info about the earlier note about the UK saying Russia has lost 1/2 its combat capability. Does not appear to speak of troops but weapons and munitions. It seems safe to say Russia well below half its tank capability since the start since they are deploying ancient models in many places. The 1 million rounds of ammo may be a high side estimate as it has been reported they can only produce 2,000/ day or maybe 750K/yr.

Link Posted: 7/5/2023 2:11:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Schmigs:

9 MLRS is a big deviation from avg. I wonder what happened there.
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
I like this chart with the %destroyed. However, since we have seen much of the Russian stored equipment and munition are badly deteriorated it seems safe to deduct 1:3 from that reserve. Therefore, items already eating into reserves such as tanks and artillery are in reality +10-20% added to the percent shown.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494438/IMG_1881-2874300.jpg

9 MLRS is a big deviation from avg. I wonder what happened there.

I haven’t heard anything specific. However the RuAF was forced to relocate their command center southwest of Bakhmut to further east. Perhaps a battery or two of MLRS were providing cover fire and got exposed?
Link Posted: 7/5/2023 2:14:38 AM EDT
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Stay tuned for the new Russian favorite streaming movie The Fall Guy!

He’s (wishing he were) dead, Jim.
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