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Posted: 8/26/2023 5:41:59 AM EDT
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 #KumaAnalytics Defense lines of Russia in the south of Ukraine. 🧷 General Zaluzhnyi's statement about the imminent breakthrough of the defense lines caused a lot of excitement. It is very important to analyze the content of the Commander-in-Chief's words and explain what trap the Armed Forces of Ukraine could potentially fall into. 📖So, according to the official military doctrine of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the defense of the front line includes three parallel lines, each of which consists of fortifications, minefields, company and platoon strongholds with uniform saturation of anti-tank means, EW and anti-aircraft fire means, barrel and reactive artillery fire means and many other defense elements. This doctrine was discovered and thoroughly studied by specialists in operational planning of the armed forces of NATO countries, who trained many of our officers, including General Zaluzhny. 📓When planning combat operations against a probable enemy, officers understand very well that the attacking side needs to successively pass the "first", "second" and "third" lines of defense in order to achieve a breakthrough and enter the operational space. This is an axiom that every Western officer has learned perfectly. 🪤The strategic trap of the General Staff of the ZSRF when planning the defense of the so-called "land corridor to Crimea" was to replace the "first", "second" and "third" lines of defense with "look at that village in the lowlands", "not even the first line" and "the first and the last line for the threads" respectively. In this way, an operational group of troops prepared in accordance with NATO standards, after entering Badaniya for Babkosyol and entering the border of the "first" line of defense, will already suffer the losses that they expected to suffer when two lines of defense were breached, while the higher command will consider that there are still three full-blooded lines of defense in front of them. Since NATO officers cannot think outside the algorithms of actions they have been trained in, where it is clearly stated that after the "first" there must be "second" and "third" lines of defense of the enemy, the command will face a mental collapse and an existential crisis and will be forced to retreat to the original lines and surrender. https://t.me/killpukin/16670 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 5:42:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Awesome, the opinion of a propaganda-gobbling millenial. Meanwhile, inflation is crazy high, boys are getting their dicks cut off by their parents, political imprisonment is happening on a regular basis, and anti-white racism is pretty much de jure, but you hard chargers got a warboner for Urozhaine? Not sure some of you have your priorities straight... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Considering that I was born post-1991, your assessment that I'm a crusty old Cold Warrior is, once again, totally detached from reality. I'm starting to notice a pattern here... In any event, I'm done engaging with you and derailing the thread. Good luck in all future endeavors. Awesome, the opinion of a propaganda-gobbling millenial. Meanwhile, inflation is crazy high, boys are getting their dicks cut off by their parents, political imprisonment is happening on a regular basis, and anti-white racism is pretty much de jure, but you hard chargers got a warboner for Urozhaine? Not sure some of you have your priorities straight... The idea that “we can’t do X in our interests unless I have a list of my domestic grievances addressed” will never, ever end. Our domestic problems are in our hands to address. They have nothing to do with whether it is in our interests to aid Ukraine. As to the trite “not one penny for Ukraine until X” argument…OK. Did you cash any of the covid aid checks? Yes? Then YOU PERSONALLY are contributing to our problems on a couple orders of magnitude greater than the cost of aid to Ukraine. FIVE trillion dollars all told, IIRC. Or did you put your checks in the “build the wall to keep them Messicans out!” Fund? I’m sorry you’ve allowed domestic political hatred to warp your mind. I’ve seen it in a family member, and it’s sad. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 5:44:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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💭Butusov: The Russian S-400 air defense system in Crimea was destroyed with the help of a modified R-360 Neptune cruise missile.
The most important part of the S-400 complex — the "Podlet K1" radar, which provided control of the air situation over the western part of the Black Sea and over the territory of the Kherson region — was also destroyed with the help of anti-aircraft missiles. https://t.me/killpukin/16657 S-400 launcher in Crimea destroyed by new Ukrainian missile - Danilov On the air of Ukrainian Radio, the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council did not answer the question of whether this is the latest development or modification, but stressed that this is a project of Ukroboronprom as part of a program launched in 2020. 💬 "The rocket was new. The rocket was absolutely modern. Yes, this is our new product, which proved to be absolutely flawless," said Danilov. https://t.me/uniannet/109339 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 5:50:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2023 5:55:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Oh no COC violations how will I sleep tonight? Plainly, we cannot focus on various issues at the same time. Present reality is proof of that. And if you see you see the enemy of liberty as anything other than DC, then you've drunk their Kool Aid. Enjoy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Originally Posted By Tomislav: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Considering that I was born post-1991, your assessment that I'm a crusty old Cold Warrior is, once again, totally detached from reality. I'm starting to notice a pattern here... In any event, I'm done engaging with you and derailing the thread. Good luck in all future endeavors. Awesome, the opinion of a propaganda-gobbling millenial. Meanwhile, inflation is crazy high, boys are getting their dicks cut off by their parents, political imprisonment is happening on a regular basis, and anti-white racism is pretty much de jure, but you hard chargers got a warboner for Urozhaine? Not sure some of you have your priorities straight... Aside from all the CoC violations in your post, is it your view that we cannot focus on domestic issues and foreign issues at the same time? Why should we lie down and miss the opportunity to take out an enemy? Oh no COC violations how will I sleep tonight? Plainly, we cannot focus on various issues at the same time. Present reality is proof of that. And if you see you see the enemy of liberty as anything other than DC, then you've drunk their Kool Aid. Enjoy. No one in DC in either party is frantically threatening nuclear armageddon, leveling cities with artillery, deporting citizens from their own country en masse, stealing children from their parents en masse, disappearing tens of thousands of people, bombing electrical infrastructure in the dead of winter, blockading food with the goal of starving people in Africa and provoking a migrant crisis, shooting cruise missiles and drones at apartment buildings, hospitals, and churches, with the sole intent of terrorizing and killing civilians…I could go on. Do these actions, or do they not, describe an enemy of liberty? |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 6:00:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: If Viktor Bout gets a role like that the Biden Administration will be very vulnerable to criticism. And simultaneously a powerful motive to provide Ukraine with the information and means to make the problem go away. 
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Posted: 8/26/2023 6:02:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I will add that I suspect his immigrant parents influenced him also. Coming from "old" India, they are likely anti-colonialists and assumed Great nations like England and the USA get involved in foreign countries out of colonialist aspirations. The obvious remedy for colonialism is isolationism. Vivek was very likely influence by his parents in the same way my parents influenced me about communism. Except my parents were right... |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 6:19:25 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2023 6:51:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4Z0853XsAAAl2f?format=jpg&name=900x900 He was featured in multiple interviews over the past year and explained how the air war was being conducted. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/inside-ukraines-desperate-fight-against-drones-with-mig-29-pilot-juice https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2022/12/12/IMG_1644-scaled.jpg?auto=webp&optimize=high&quality=70&width=1920 Shit. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:03:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:08:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Why do they need it? So they can fucken sit around and let another Srebrenica happen again while on their watch? https://www.dw.com/en/srebrenica-massacre-netherlands-apologizes-after-27-years/a-62434446 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:15:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryTotally fake. Those are Leopard 1A5 stored in Italy. The Swiss Leopard 2 are all stored indoors. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:19:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Any party would still need a export papers for said tanks. Dunno what this post is on about but it's a pretty simple printable form. Just like the US in the sense that ITAR shit doest just vanish. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:27:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Right, I was going off of the size, but it’s the wrong shape, too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Right, I was going off of the size, but it’s the wrong shape, too. Could be an OSA. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:35:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abakan: Totally fake. Those are Leopard 1A5 stored in Italy. The Swiss Leopard 2 are all stored indoors. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abakan: Totally fake. Those are Leopard 1A5 stored in Italy. The Swiss Leopard 2 are all stored indoors. Not fake, translation error in the tweet. These are allegedly the tanks that the Swiss company RUAG bought from Italy, still stored in Italy. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:35:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abakan: Totally fake. Those are Leopard 1A5 stored in Italy. The Swiss Leopard 2 are all stored indoors. Switzerland looks really flat in the photo. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:37:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Revolts would probably happen inside Russia and it would collapse as we know it … IMHO That's the big bonus ! |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:47:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:48:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigfatOTMs]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Awesome, the opinion of a propaganda-gobbling millenial. Imagine saying someone gobbles propaganda while also saying Ukraine funds aren't audited.  EDIT: I knew I recognized this guy. He's the one who uses "Jew" as a pejorative in his Zelensky Derangement Syndrome posts. What a bizarre obsession. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/OFFICIAL-Russo-Ukrainian-War-/5-2499714/?page=4549#i105062993 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 7:52:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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 According to representatives of British intelligence, Major General Andriy Averyanov, who had previously been involved in the elimination of targets undesirable for the Kremlin, may be involved in the liquidation of the leader of the "Wagner" military unit Yevgeny Prigozhin. The British publication Inews writes about it. The publication's source, who previously worked in Russian intelligence, noted that Averyanov "supervised the operation" and was also responsible for replacing Wagner's fighters in Africa with 20,000 Russian troops. At the same time, according to the interlocutor of the British publication, the pilot of the plane can be officially accused of this in order to hide the connection with the Kremlin. https://t.me/operativnoZSU/111765 British intelligence: Skripal poisoning curator may be behind Prigozhin's murder British intelligence suspects GRU Major General Andrey Averyanov, allegedly responsible for the poisoning in Salisbury in 2018, of involvement in the liquidation of the founder of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin. The British edition of i writes about this, citing sources in intelligence. Averyanov heads GRU unit 29155. It has been described by The New York Times and Bellingcat as a covert GRU unit for sabotage operations in Europe, including the poisoning of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in 2018. Two British intelligence sources said that Averyanov led an operation to replace Wagner PMC mercenaries in Africa with 20,000 Russian troops and had a “long-standing hostile relationship” with Prigozhin, and now his name is being called in connection with a plane crash in the Tver region. Western officials continue to believe that the decision to eliminate Prigozhin was made by the Russian president. “Not much happens in Russia without Putin,” said US President Joe Biden. “Historically, Putin prefers cold revenge. So the way and time of Prigozhin's death is not surprising. Many, including me, thought that his days were numbered, ”said a former British intelligence official. https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/15290 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:06:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LurkerII]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By Charging_Handle: Fuck. Anyone know any details of what happened?[/qu ote]All I have is this discord post. I cannot say it's true at all. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/390973/Screenshot_20230825_214039_Discord-2932208.jpg Denys also reported this as a collision. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:14:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The idea that “we can’t do X in our interests unless I have a list of my domestic grievances addressed” will never, ever end. Our domestic problems are in our hands to address. They have nothing to do with whether it is in our interests to aid Ukraine. As to the trite “not one penny for Ukraine until X” argument…OK. Did you cash any of the covid aid checks? Yes? Then YOU PERSONALLY are contributing to our problems on a couple orders of magnitude greater than the cost of aid to Ukraine. FIVE trillion dollars all told, IIRC. Or did you put your checks in the “build the wall to keep them Messicans out!” Fund? I’m sorry you’ve allowed domestic political hatred to warp your mind. I’ve seen it in a family member, and it’s sad. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Tomislav: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Considering that I was born post-1991, your assessment that I'm a crusty old Cold Warrior is, once again, totally detached from reality. I'm starting to notice a pattern here... In any event, I'm done engaging with you and derailing the thread. Good luck in all future endeavors. Awesome, the opinion of a propaganda-gobbling millenial. Meanwhile, inflation is crazy high, boys are getting their dicks cut off by their parents, political imprisonment is happening on a regular basis, and anti-white racism is pretty much de jure, but you hard chargers got a warboner for Urozhaine? Not sure some of you have your priorities straight... The idea that “we can’t do X in our interests unless I have a list of my domestic grievances addressed” will never, ever end. Our domestic problems are in our hands to address. They have nothing to do with whether it is in our interests to aid Ukraine. As to the trite “not one penny for Ukraine until X” argument…OK. Did you cash any of the covid aid checks? Yes? Then YOU PERSONALLY are contributing to our problems on a couple orders of magnitude greater than the cost of aid to Ukraine. FIVE trillion dollars all told, IIRC. Or did you put your checks in the “build the wall to keep them Messicans out!” Fund? I’m sorry you’ve allowed domestic political hatred to warp your mind. I’ve seen it in a family member, and it’s sad. Yep, I've seen it also. Alot of weak minds will read anything on the internet and believe anything, and if they see there other weak minded internet buddies falling for the same crap it just reinforces there bias. None of these "fuck Ukraine" bois ever cared to actually learn facts about this conflict, Ukraine or Putin's grand ambitions of another USSR,cognitive thinking. Let alone just think for themselves without trying to be like everyone else (online buddies). They only see "10 percent for the big guy".. "biolabs", "it's America's fault for making the bear mad".. there isolationist views comes from being weak minded, low IQ or whatever because it's easier for them to have that mindset than have to do any intelligent thinking on there own. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:15:18 AM EDT
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The second foreign vessel left the port of Odesa after the Russian Federation disrupted the "grain agreement"
We are talking about the bulk carrier Primus under the flag of Liberia, which arrived on February 20 from the Greek port of Perama under the name Polarstar.  https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1695393966751895728 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:16:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:27:20 AM EDT
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 Rusnya writes that the Wagnerian "Bieber" flew off to meet with Prigogine All hope remained on Dolik 🤣 https://t.me/uniannet/109353 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:37:05 AM EDT
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Putin instructed to use the labor of children to cope with the "staff shortage" in the economy
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the removal of restrictions on the work of minors in order to cope with a shortage of workers in an economy estimated by authorities to be in the hundreds of thousands. The government and the Agency for Strategic Initiatives should consider "promoting employment and stimulating employment" of citizens aged 14 and over, according to a list of Putin's instructions published on the Kremlin's website. Teenagers, according to the idea of the president, can be attracted to perform "temporary work", and organizations that do this can be given benefits. In addition, the hiring of citizens under the age of 18 should be simplified, according to Putin's instructions. According to the Gaidar Institute, after the mobilization, the shortage of personnel in Russian factories reached a record since 1996: 42% of enterprises complain about the lack of employees. According to the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the economy lacks 660,000 workers. The personnel resource has been exhausted "both locally and strategically," Valery Osmakov, deputy head of the department, said in July. https://t.me/moscowtimes_ru/15294 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:39:59 AM EDT
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A well-known pilot with the call sign "Jus" and two other pilots died as a result of the collision of two Ukrainian planes on the evening of August 25 in the Zhytomyr Region.
According to UP sources, L-39 training planes collided in the Zhytomyr district, three pilots were killed. The publication turned to the press service of the Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a comment. They noted that the official comment will be made later due to certain circumstances and the ongoing investigation. The SBI has already started an investigation. https://t.me/newspn/65189 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:40:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Russia is crumbling on the front. Private fourth class Milley ought to eat his big ass drawers for saying the offensive has failed and UA will never take Melitopol. He should be demoted to Surrender Monkey First Class with a yellow stripe.
Click To View Spoiler Not sure why I'd fight for a country that doesn't support basic needs ... I'd just defect ... |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:42:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: It tears my soul that Mom Jeans and Little Fidel have bigger foreign policy balls than many of the supposed Republican candidates and shit posters. Ronnie we need your courage and vision to restore this wet noodle party.
I hate to admit it but he is right ... |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:43:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: The second foreign vessel left the port of Odesa after the Russian Federation disrupted the "grain agreement" We are talking about the bulk carrier Primus under the flag of Liberia, which arrived on February 20 from the Greek port of Perama under the name Polarstar. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4c_1A4XEAEFlr6?format=jpg&name=large https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1695393966751895728 Primus sucks! 
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:43:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: A well-known pilot with the call sign "Jus" and two other pilots died as a result of the collision of two Ukrainian planes on the evening of August 25 in the Zhytomyr Region. According to UP sources, L-39 training planes collided in the Zhytomyr district, three pilots were killed. The publication turned to the press service of the Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a comment. They noted that the official comment will be made later due to certain circumstances and the ongoing investigation. The SBI has already started an investigation. https://t.me/newspn/65189 Several versions of this story now, some say they were mig-29's and now they were in L-39's? Was he training new pilots? . |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:44:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Whatever happened to Schmigs posting the daily graphic from Ukraine MoD? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By yekimak: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66660/IMG_20230826_010517_394_jpg-2932318.JPG Whatever happened to Schmigs posting the daily graphic from Ukraine MoD? I miss him too. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:45:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thanosnap: The breakup of Yugoslavia into Serbia, Kosova, Bosnia etc is a lot like the breakup of the USSR, and Yugoslavia are slavs like the Ukrainians and Russians obviously. These were tensions that had been frozen over the Soviet period. Europeans didn't want war on their continent. The Russians did not like the breakup because it reminded them of their breakup, nor did they like the bombing campaign NATO did to end the war and the oppression of the Kosovars by the Milosevic led Serbs, so there could UN peacekeepers on the ground. So now the Russians say "hey, NATO is not defensive, they bombed slavs in Serbia." Pretty sure Gorbachev (no longer having a job after the dissolution of the USSR) did a drunken rant afterwards too about how they will be back. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41664000/gif/_41664926_former_yugo_416fix.gif Later Libya would have a brutal civil war during the Arab Spring and NATO would bomb the Libyan army to end the civil war. Russia signed off on it in the UN but didn't think dictator Ghaddafi would be deposed; they thought it would just end the war. Once Ghadaffi was gone (killed by his own people) they were fuming. It was initially going to be 19 countries not acting as NATO but they couldn't agree on who would lead the attack so they resorted to NATO command. Of course, then Russia would say "See, NATO is not defensive. They take out dictators." Those are the only 2 offensive actions NATO has taken, other than the article 5 invoked after the 9-11 attacks. Another great post. Thanos coming on strong. I think currently Serbia is having tensions with Kosovo, parts of which they argue are Serbia. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:46:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: I hate to admit it but he is right ... Holy crap.... I agree with Mittens. Gonna have to pour out the liquor and sober up or something... |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:56:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By METT-T: Another parallel with Obama and his Mau-Mau granddaddy. Vavak Obamaramaswamy. Yes. I believe good parents and grandparents pass on invaluable knowledge and especially culture to their kids. Be proud of who you are and where you came from. But that doesnt mean your cultural history makes good domestic or foreign policy for the USA. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:57:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LurkerII: Denys also reported this as a collision. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 8:58:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: The idea that “we can’t do X in our interests unless I have a list of my domestic grievances addressed” will never, ever end. Our domestic problems are in our hands to address. They have nothing to do with whether it is in our interests to aid Ukraine. As to the trite “not one penny for Ukraine until X” argument…OK. Did you cash any of the covid aid checks? Yes? Then YOU PERSONALLY are contributing to our problems on a couple orders of magnitude greater than the cost of aid to Ukraine. FIVE trillion dollars all told, IIRC. Or did you put your checks in the “build the wall to keep them Messicans out!” Fund? I’m sorry you’ve allowed domestic political hatred to warp your mind. I’ve seen it in a family member, and it’s sad. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Tomislav: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Considering that I was born post-1991, your assessment that I'm a crusty old Cold Warrior is, once again, totally detached from reality. I'm starting to notice a pattern here... In any event, I'm done engaging with you and derailing the thread. Good luck in all future endeavors. Awesome, the opinion of a propaganda-gobbling millenial. Meanwhile, inflation is crazy high, boys are getting their dicks cut off by their parents, political imprisonment is happening on a regular basis, and anti-white racism is pretty much de jure, but you hard chargers got a warboner for Urozhaine? Not sure some of you have your priorities straight... The idea that “we can’t do X in our interests unless I have a list of my domestic grievances addressed” will never, ever end. Our domestic problems are in our hands to address. They have nothing to do with whether it is in our interests to aid Ukraine. As to the trite “not one penny for Ukraine until X” argument…OK. Did you cash any of the covid aid checks? Yes? Then YOU PERSONALLY are contributing to our problems on a couple orders of magnitude greater than the cost of aid to Ukraine. FIVE trillion dollars all told, IIRC. Or did you put your checks in the “build the wall to keep them Messicans out!” Fund? I’m sorry you’ve allowed domestic political hatred to warp your mind. I’ve seen it in a family member, and it’s sad. One of the reasons that our Foreign Policy is such a mess is that we have folks who are living out safe domestic academic fantasies and insulated from immediate consequences are determining and executing our foreign policy. Foreign and domestic policy really need to be separate, and the reason Ukraine happened in the first place folks got elected on feelings and hopes and not on reality. Therefore, we get foreign and domestic policies from a bunch of over-educated goobers who lack the common sense God gave a field mouse and can't relate to anyone from outside their bubble and can't function outside their preconceptions. Hence, we get our current Iran policy, our current US border policy, our Afghanistan policy, our current Middle Eastern policy, our economic policies, etc. Screwing up US support of Ukraine and/or pulling out and letting the Russians win, as far as US interests are concerned, would be essentially screwing up the one occasion where the actions of this maladministration actually aligned somewhat with long-term US Foreign Policy interests. Afghanistan is the living embodiment of what happens when you let strictly domestic concerns drive foreign policy. The conservatives do not need a Saigon or Kabul Airport to their credit. For the sake of our country, we need to better than the over-credentialed slack-jawed one-worlder goobers who generally end up running things when the left is in charge. 
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:02:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: So you and Biden say. Yet reality disagrees. Stop funding Nuland's jihad to make Crimea Ukrainian, which it never was. It's just stupid at this point. Ukraine could have won this many months and thousands of lives ago. If you don't know anything about a subject, why post stupid stuff about it? In 1991 Crimea voted with the rest of Ukraine to secede from Russia. That "Russian" city of Sevastopol even voted for secession. In 2014, a majority of Russian speakers in the east still wanted to be part of Ukraine. How about you stop posting in this thread until you've learned some facts? |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:03:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:04:52 AM EDT
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 Satellite Imagery of Site of Destroyed S-400 in Olenivka, Crimea -- Huge Fire Damage |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:05:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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  The SBI is investigating the circumstances of the collision of two L-39 aircraft in Zhytomyr Oblast 🔹 DBR employees are investigating the circumstances of the L-39 combat training aircraft crash in Zhytomyr Oblast. 🔹 The incident occurred on August 25, 2023. During a combat mission, two L-39 combat training aircraft collided in the sky near Zhytomyr. 3 pilots of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed. 🔹 The SBI expresses its condolences to the families of the fallen soldiers and will conduct a thorough investigation to establish the causes of the tragedy. 🔹 In particular, special attention will be paid to the study of the technical condition of aircraft, compliance with the rules of preparation for flights. Specialists will carry out a thorough diagnosis of "black boxes". 🔹 The loss of each soldier is a huge loss for the entire country. 🔹 Preliminary qualification of the offense: violation of flight rules or preparation for them (Article 416 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine). 🔹 The sanction of the article provides for punishment in the form of imprisonment for a term of up to 15 years. 🔹 Procedural management is carried out by the Zhytomyr specialized prosecutor's office in the field of defense of the Central region. https://t.me/DBRgovua/3777 The Air Force of the Ukrainian Armed Forces confirmed that among the dead was a well-known pilot of the 40th tactical aviation brigade with the call sign JUICE. https://t.me/newspn/65199 |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:05:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Awesome, the opinion of a propaganda-gobbling millenial. Meanwhile, inflation is crazy high, boys are getting their dicks cut off by their parents, political imprisonment is happening on a regular basis, and anti-white racism is pretty much de jure, but you hard chargers got a warboner for Urozhaine? Not sure some of you have your priorities straight... Oh, wow, there is more than one problem in the world? How can we cope??? But since you don't have a solution to literally any of those problems, I guess your priorities are BS. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:06:02 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Anyone basing their opinion of someone's qualification for being POTUS on 'what is best for Zelensky' is fucked in the head. Apparently you didn't watch the Republican debates. Ramaswamy is the one that is fucked in the head and TOTALY unsuitable to be POTUS. He came across the screen as a total moron. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:09:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: The reality of the situation is that the US is funneling billions of dollars of unaudited dollars into a country that paid Hunter millions of unaudited dollars. America has much more pressing concerns. The war in Ukraine could be over this afternoon if they agreed to give up some bits that no Ukranian gives a fuck about. But I guess Nuland's opinion should drive the fate of the region? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Anyone boiling down the pro-Ukrainian position to supporting 'what is best for Zelensky' is being inherently dishonest and deceitful, which I suppose shouldn't be surprising at this point. Overall, the focus on Zelensky from the right is absurdly moronic, and it (perhaps intentionally) misses the big picture of what is going on here. This conflict boils down to a people resisting blatantly genocidal imperialism from a state that denies they have a right to exist, steals and indoctrinates hundreds of thousands of their children, uses their men from occupied territory as cannon fodder, rapes their women as a matter of policy, uses them as forced labor, runs numerous torture chambers in occupied territory, etc. Zelensky is a temporary executive of the will of the people (in before the inevitable "Zelensky is a dictator who banned all future elections!!!!1!!1!!!1"). Focusing in on him obfuscates the reality of the situation. The reality of the situation is that the US is funneling billions of dollars of unaudited dollars into a country that paid Hunter millions of unaudited dollars. America has much more pressing concerns. The war in Ukraine could be over this afternoon if they agreed to give up some bits that no Ukranian gives a fuck about. But I guess Nuland's opinion should drive the fate of the region? I am sorry, but your vision of reality is VERY blurred. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:12:55 AM EDT
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 25 Aug: 3D Chess Move! Ukrainians FOOL RUSSIAN AIR DEFENSE | War in Ukraine Explained |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:16:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: “The FSB is to be The crimes of the Tsarist, Soviet, and now Russian secret police are beyond horrific. Amendment accepted. 
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:20:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: No. I do appreciate her position on Ukraine versus Vivek but I'm not interested in a female version of George Bush. She's proven she'll fold and pander to the left. It saddens me that Vivek has such a terrible position on Ukraine but I'd still take him over an typical establishment hack in spite of that. At the risk of further derailing... I was very impressed with Nicki's debate performance. I love her on Ukraine but have huge reservations about her domestic policy and more importantly her steel spine against the neo-socialist revolution in progress. Whoever "we" pick needs to be a fighter first and foremost. Talking tough now but folding immediately after the first call from Chuck Schumer, Pelosi, or the donners...would be a disaster. I dont trust any of them yet to stand strong. I really like Vivek's domestic policy talking points but abhor his foreign policy. Anyway I have doubts about his sincerity and commitment. I'm looking forward to Trump joining the debate to hear his take. I would be very worried about a Trump-Vivek ticket but could live with Trump-Nicki. I have more questions than answers now... |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:20:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomislav: The reality of the situation is that the US is funneling billions of dollars of unaudited dollars into a country that paid Hunter millions of unaudited dollars. America has much more pressing concerns. The war in Ukraine could be over this afternoon if they agreed to give up some bits that no Ukranian gives a fuck about. But I guess Nuland's opinion should drive the fate of the region? Lol. They have done more to root out corruption since the election of Zelensky than anyone in our govt has in 20 years. What exactly does sending weapons that are in storage to Ukraine have to do with "pressing concerns" here? What do you mean unaudited? Everything is audited, right down the last obsolete M113 we are sending. Sorry, but rewarding russia for violating international laws and treaties is off the table. The great thing about this country is I get a vote to cancel yours out, and I will do what I can to see Ukraine gets what they need to remove that scum from their borders and see that they don't try again for a long time, if ever. Sending a fraction of our defense budget that was designed for this scenario without expending the lives of our troops is the bargain of the century. What are these "pressing concerns" you have, and how can they be solved by stopping aid to Ukraine? Give some substance, not some vague answer, since you seem to have put a lot of thought into it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:21:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Interesting failed launch (or flight) Tweet says S-200. https://twitter.com/b_misteryo/status/1695201895139143857 Well, if it was an S-200, it does appear they have modified post warranty, road mobile launchers for them.  S-200's are very big and fat. I don't think this was one. |
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Posted: 8/26/2023 9:26:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: From that account.  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4cGc7GX0AAeMWE?format=jpg&name=small  |
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