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Link Posted: 9/28/2023 2:48:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

Ooooh! Let me handle the reply!

The US is prepared to offer full and complete guarantees for Russia's security and territorial integrity, including an end to all US weapons shipments to Ukraine. Further, the US will not oppose continued Russian permanent UNSC membership.

In consideration of this, Russia will:
Remove all Russian military and civilian personnel and all military & intelligence equipment and systems from the territory of Ukraine, as internationally recognized and officially accepted by Russia in the 1997 treaty with Ukraine.
Return to compliance with that treaty, publicly renounce all claim to any sovereign territory of Ukraine and amend its constitution and laws accordingly, excepting that Sevastopol is sovereign territory of Ukraine, and Ukraine may freely choose not to accept any lease to Russia of any part of the city.
End all production and maintenance of nuclear weapons, publicly verify destruction of all existing nuclear weapons, accept IAEA independent inspections without any limit on any facility under Russian control.
Surrender the southern Kuril's to Japan.
Fully demilitarize Kaliningrad, and allow any descendants of former residents prior to Soviet occupation to buy property and vote in Kaliningrad.
Provide Ukraine with free gas and oil for 20 years as reparations for war destruction.
Allow a UN-conducted census in all of Russia in which all persons from Ukraine will be identified and removed from Russia to an independent third party nation, where those persons may choose freely and without coercion whether they wish to live in Russia, Ukraine, or apply for refugee status somewhere else.
All FSB agents and officers are to be publicly identified and forbidden to hold any public office or employment anywhere in the world.
Withdraw all military troops and equipment at least 25 miles from all their western borders and accept this as a demilitarized zone. Any nation on Russia's western borders may, without notice, destroy any military equipment/personnel in that DMZ without recourse or compensation.

Accept these terms, and we shall have peace in Europe for a generation.
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Link Posted: 9/28/2023 2:50:32 PM EDT
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your ball, Orban.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 2:50:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I agree with you both.
Haili/DeSantis ticket?
But lets not forget Trump...
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By Gudabeg:


Seems to be sadly so.

Which is frustrating as DeSantis is great on domestic issues, but on Ukraine he's spineless.

I agree with you both.
Haili/DeSantis ticket?
But lets not forget Trump...

I'd still prefer to see DeSantis at the top of the ticket for a plethora of reasons but Haley or Scott in the second chair would be a pretty good ticket I think.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 2:58:35 PM EDT
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What's Mossad doing?

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:15:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Not the bridge.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7IT0gwWMAAV86X?format=jpg&name=900x900

Not sure how you catch a quarry on fire, but there ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIpLlgsSaI0

https://kerch.fm/2023/09/28/bev-storone-bondarenkovo-silnyj-pozhar-vidno-s-naberezhnoj-kerchi.html

Quarry will have big fuel tanks above ground, lots of trucks and equipment and often an asphalt plant that is pretty easy to light up.

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:19:31 PM EDT
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And I am just about done. Fuck the left and fuck the right
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:23:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By absael:
YES!  This is what I've been waiting for.  
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Originally Posted By absael:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
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YES!  This is what I've been waiting for.  


Me too, solves a few problems.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:25:08 PM EDT
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clown shoes
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:25:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

What's Mossad doing?

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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
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What's Mossad doing?



I happen to be watching a documentary on the Mossad right now.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:26:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:26:41 PM EDT
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So the House Republicans are fine with the billions spent on govt DEI programs, migrant assistance, and every other corrupt earmark. But Ohs Noes not the $300 million fir Ukraine to fight the evil empire for us?!  

Do millions even show up in the federal budget when most programs are in the tens, hundreds and thousands billions?
Asking for a working class schlub friend.

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:27:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7empest:



And I am just about done. Fuck the left and fuck the right
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Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:28:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Russian modification of the "Kornet" ATGM, which turns it into a "Stugna" analogue.

For the first time, a video with another modified ATGM, namely "Fagot" appeared in early May: a thermal optical sight, a camera and a control unit were installed.

It is likely that volunteers are engaged in the development for now, but given the amount of resources in the Russian Federation, the modification may go into series

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I think we saw a early version of this about a year ago.

Heck, I'm surprised we're not seeing Russian use of the Belarusian Shershen (their copy of the Stugna/Skif).

UA needs to produce a Stugna firing module that can control 2 tripods so one can reload while the other engages. Belarus already has a 2-channel controller for their Shershen, but it's for a 2-missile tripod.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:31:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
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Classic Lavrov in one quick summary. Russia violated the Minsk Agreements (so Ukraine did too), and Russia violated Ukraine's territorial integrity, so Lavrov says someone else did those things. Classic.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:33:25 PM EDT
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Looks like a small secondary at :23. Kinda neat seeing the bomblets dropping in.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:47:51 PM EDT
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Margarita Simonyan overtly threatening the Prime Minister of Armenia to stay supine to Russia, suggesting Armenia, like Georgia, is nothing without Russia, cannot exist without Russia.

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 3:52:03 PM EDT
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Pay attention to the doublespeak and hypocrisy here. Solovyov rants at Van der Leyen for phrasing about nuclear weapons, but he himself has been the loudest advocate for using nuclear weapons (or a close second to Gurulev). Irony much?



And yes, rant, Solovyov, RANT!! What a loudmouth bully.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:01:17 PM EDT
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Compilation of Ukrainian fpv drones hunting individual Russians.



https://twitter.com/region776/status/1707452713079078937
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:10:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

What's Mossad doing?

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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
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What's Mossad doing?



Just smoking.

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:16:21 PM EDT
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Neat.

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:22:50 PM EDT
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Quite possible the CC worked on this one.

UA only showing us hits, but I think more than this tank got saved from drone dropped granades by the CCs.

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:24:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jungatheart:
Originally Posted By 7empest:



And I am just about done. Fuck the left and fuck the right

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I ain't about done, I am done! Granted, I don't have many years left, but still. Fuck 'em.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:26:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gudabeg:


Other than trying to destabilize the Baltics, demanding all NATO troops leave Poland, the Baltics, Romania, Bulgaria, etc.

Look at the lessons of history:

Germany in 1938 was in a position where it would struggle against the Czechs alone and was about to go bankrupt.
In 1939 it was able to only fight the Poles by sending everything it had there and praying the allies wouldn't attack in the West, and was running low on stolen Czech cash.
By 1940 it was able to crush the Allies in France, and gobbled up the resources of Western Europe to continue the war.
And by 1941 conduct a massive invasion of the USSR, and gobbled up Soviet resources and food to prevent mass starvation in Germany.

Letting our enemies grow stronger and conquer land is a horrible idea.

Though if you don't like WW2 we can use other examples like Napoleon and the Fourth Coalition where Prussia waiting to enter the war let Napoleon defeat Austria and then turn toward Prussia alone, leading to Prussia's subjugation by Napoleon.
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Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:31:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

Quarry will have big fuel tanks above ground, lots of trucks and equipment and often an asphalt plant that is pretty easy to light up.

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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Not the bridge.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7IT0gwWMAAV86X?format=jpg&name=900x900

Not sure how you catch a quarry on fire, but there ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIpLlgsSaI0

https://kerch.fm/2023/09/28/bev-storone-bondarenkovo-silnyj-pozhar-vidno-s-naberezhnoj-kerchi.html

Quarry will have big fuel tanks above ground, lots of trucks and equipment and often an asphalt plant that is pretty easy to light up.

Been told it was a copium mine and in it's raw unrefined state is very volatile


Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:31:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
The U.S. has buddyfucked so many allies since I've been born, I'm always shocked we're able to find any allies.  Best case scenario, you get a sincere commitment initially and then 2 or 4 years later the government changes and you're left hanging.
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Yes. It's shameful. It's embarrassing. The only reason we get away with that is because we are so wealthy and powerful.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:41:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
~30 sec vid in tweet Russians wearing Ukrainian uniforms‼️

In the Zaporizhzhia area, fighters of the 128th separate mountain assault brigade, in cooperation with military intelligence, captured an enemy unit, which, with Ukrainian uniforms, tried to infiltrate into Ukraine controlled territory to carry out sabotage.
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Is it any surprise this kind of thing is happening in a war?
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:54:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:

What's Mossad doing?

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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:
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What's Mossad doing?




First thing I thought of
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:55:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stone-age:


Is it any surprise this kind of thing is happening in a war?
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Reminds me of Where Eagles Dare or The Dirty Dozen
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 4:55:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


Quite possible the CC worked on this one.

UA only showing us hits, but I think more than this tank got saved from drone dropped granades by the CCs.

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Quite possible the CC worked on this one.

UA only showing us hits, but I think more than this tank got saved from drone dropped granades by the CCs.



I think you're right, but I was impressed with the damage to the optical channel of the tank.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 5:02:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

I think you're right, but I was impressed with the damage to the optical channel of the tank.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

Quite possible the CC worked on this one.

UA only showing us hits, but I think more than this tank got saved from drone dropped granades by the CCs.

I think you're right, but I was impressed with the damage to the optical channel of the tank.

Crew was likely able to walk away. 3/10 for taking one tank out of service.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 5:02:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Been told it was a copium mine and in it's raw unrefined state is very volatile


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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By Prime:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


Not the bridge.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7IT0gwWMAAV86X?format=jpg&name=900x900

Not sure how you catch a quarry on fire, but there ya go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIpLlgsSaI0

https://kerch.fm/2023/09/28/bev-storone-bondarenkovo-silnyj-pozhar-vidno-s-naberezhnoj-kerchi.html

Quarry will have big fuel tanks above ground, lots of trucks and equipment and often an asphalt plant that is pretty easy to light up.

Been told it was a copium mine and in it's raw unrefined state is very volatile




lol, I wonder if it might be a Russian Sam site that protects the bridge getting hit in preparation for the big show.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 5:07:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/28/2023 5:14:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

So the House Republicans are fine with the billions spent on govt DEI programs, migrant assistance, and every other corrupt earmark. But Ohs Noes not the $300 million fir Ukraine to fight the evil empire for us?!  

Do millions even show up in the federal budget when most programs are in the tens, hundreds and thousands billions?
Asking for a working class schlub friend.

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Originally Posted By RockNwood:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:

So the House Republicans are fine with the billions spent on govt DEI programs, migrant assistance, and every other corrupt earmark. But Ohs Noes not the $300 million fir Ukraine to fight the evil empire for us?!  

Do millions even show up in the federal budget when most programs are in the tens, hundreds and thousands billions?
Asking for a working class schlub friend.




Another take on it.

Link Posted: 9/28/2023 5:20:45 PM EDT
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Quarry will have big fuel tanks above ground, lots of trucks and equipment and often an asphalt plant that is pretty easy to light up.

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Excellent points.



And speaking of cope…


Link Posted: 9/28/2023 5:32:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


lol, I wonder if it might be a Russian Sam site that protects the bridge getting hit in preparation for the big show.
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oh, indeed
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After 20 minutes, the Lancet disappeared from the screen. Probably hit a target 😞
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.      I stay amazed that artillery can be that accurate hitting a moving target . I wonder how far away they are shooting from .
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 5:45:55 PM EDT
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And I am just about done. Fuck the left and fuck the right
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This is the way.
~Russians.


Don’t let the fatigue wear you down.
Continue to exercise critical thinking skills.

Rise above the weak minded rhetoric.

Vote out shitbags on both sides.
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90% of our “SMEs” in GD (the ones not lying/inflating) are fat-body retirees or guys that left service that haven’t been connected in 1-2 decades.
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BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIGHT THE CHINESE IF WE GIVE AWAY 100 BILLION WORTH OF M113’s ??!!
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https://www.freightwaves.com/news/how-us-military-equipment-for-ukraine-is-shipped-across-atlantic
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oh, indeed
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


lol, I wonder if it might be a Russian Sam site that protects the bridge getting hit in preparation for the big show.
oh, indeed


This gets interesting.


We have also analyzed a site 850m east of the large Kerch Radar site which appears to be a HQ associated with the 3rd Radio Engineering Regiment 45.324109, 36.374829
 









Link Posted: 9/28/2023 6:11:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

So the House Republicans are fine with the billions spent on govt DEI programs, migrant assistance, and every other corrupt earmark. But Ohs Noes not the $300 million fir Ukraine to fight the evil empire for us?!  

Do millions even show up in the federal budget when most programs are in the tens, hundreds and thousands billions?
Asking for a working class schlub friend.

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Chicago wants 300 million just to assist illegal aliens through the winter.
Link Posted: 9/28/2023 6:14:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

News update for you - Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia are NATO members now. Maybe you didn't know that. Those are also historically part of Russia, according to Russia.
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I’m aware.

Let me repeat. Russia will not invade a NATO country. They know they would be completely destroyed. Ukraine is not a NATO country and Russia wanted it to stay that way. Is what it is. A Soviet civil war. Desantis needs to focus on Americans, which he is trying to do. Not worry about the boogie man we helped create.
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