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Link Posted: 1/12/2024 6:08:05 PM EDT
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Things are moving, even if glacially at times, on the political front. Three stories suggest that a deal on Ukraine is possible in Europe. Meloni continues to surprise and seemingly has been trying to work with sociopolitical ally in Orban to unlock aid.

Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni is seeking to convince Hungarian Premier Viktor Orban to lift his opposition to the European Union’s support for Ukraine and to improve relations with President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Meloni is also pushing Orban to shift his approach on Ukraine’s EU membership aspirations and to reset relations with Kyiv as conditions for joining the ECR, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Discussions have taken place at various levels and no decision has been taken.

Even though the EU will try to convince Hungary to lift its veto of the Ukraine financing at the next month’s summit, the leaders are also eying alternatives, which could include an agreement at 26 without Budapest. Hungary said on Wednesday during the meeting that it wants a yearly review mechanism that would need to approve the disbursals by unanimity, according to another person familiar with those talks.
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The FT then reported that perhaps a deal is possible after all:

The European Commission is willing to bow to some of Hungary’s demands in order to secure a €50bn support package for Ukraine, according to senior officials.

As a way to convince Orbán to drop his veto, the commission is open to giving Hungary’s premier an opportunity in 2025 to stop the funding deal midway through, three officials briefed on the matter told the Financial Times.

Under the potential concession, the EU would include a review of the four-year support package next year, when it will evaluate whether Ukraine still needs the cash and has met the requirements to receive EU aid. This would give Orbán the chance to veto its continuation.

Asked if this would be sufficient for Orbán to drop his veto, a senior Hungarian official said: “Still uncertain, but I say most probably yes.”

The Hungarians “are in a negotiating mood”, said a person briefed on the discussions. Brussels unlocked €10bn of EU funding for Hungary in December that was previously frozen due to rule of law concerns, a few weeks after it approved a separate €900mn payout to the country.
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Then, just recently,

The foreign ministers of Hungary and Ukraine will meet in western Ukraine at the end of January, the Hungarian government said on Friday.
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Again, nothing is done until it's done. In the US, things are still fairly uncertain, but Johnson seems to he holding firm :

US House Speaker Mike Johnson refused Friday to cave to pressure from hardline Republicans, empowering him to work with Democrats to avoid a shutdown, fund Ukraine and strike a border compromise — unless his rebellious right flank brings him down first.

The new speaker, still a novice in high-stakes negotiations, stood by a bipartisan spending deal he reached with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, even as at least two ultra-conservatives suggested they’re ready to show Johnson the door.

Some moderate Republicans, many of whom represent areas President Joe Biden carried in 2020 and are crucial to the GOP maintaining its narrow House majority, met with Johnson before his announcement and urged him to stick with the deal.

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a hardliner from Georgia, said she would vote to oust Johnson over Ukraine funding, which she says shouldn’t be a prerequisite for strong action on border security. Ukraine spending is currently separate from the spending deal, but some lawmakers think it ultimately will be tied to a full-year funding package.
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Link Posted: 1/12/2024 6:12:57 PM EDT
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"Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic"/Transnistrian Security Service

The Ministry of State Security informs

According to available information, at present, special combat groups (more than 60 people, mostly from the territory of Ukraine and with combat experience) are being trained at the facilities of the special units of the law enforcement agencies of the Republic of Moldova under the guidance of foreign specialists to carry out terrorist acts on the territory of the PMR aimed at the destruction of critical life support facilities, sabotage at military facilities, capture or destruction of senior officials and heads of law enforcement agencies.

http://mgb.gospmr.org/news/ministerstvo-gosudarstvennoj-bezopasnosti-informiruet/



Moldova: "That's some bullshit"
Tiraspol's accusations, fakes! Ministry of Defense: "The army trains personnel to destroy explosive objects"

The Ministry of Defense from Chisinau classifies Tiraspol's accusations as false, such as that Chisinau is preparing about 60 people for destabilization and terrorist actions on the territory of the Transnistrian region. The representatives of the Ministry specify that, in fact, since the summer, the National Army has been training personnel from Ukraine in the field of identifying and destroying explosive objects, a fact about which public opinion has been announced.

"The training activities are carried out by the specialists from the Codru Genius Battalion. We note that the training comes in the context of cooperation with the neighboring state of Ukraine in the humanitarian field, with the aim of protecting the civilian population from explosive objects, providing support for the training of Ukrainian personnel on humanitarian demining", the representatives of the Ministry of Defense mentioned to TV8.

We remind you that the so-called defense ministry from Tiraspol accused Chisinau of training more than 60 people, including Ukrainian soldiers, to "organize terrorist actions on the territory of the Transnistrian region" . According to a statement sent by the same source, the soldiers would be trained by the special forces of the law enforcement agencies of the Republic of Moldova, under the leadership of "foreign specialists".

"According to the information currently available at the special forces units of the law enforcement agencies of the Republic of Moldova, under the leadership of foreign specialists, special combat groups (more than 60 people, most of them arrived from the territory of Ukraine and having experience in combat operations) are trained to carry out acts of terrorism on the territory of Transnistria, aimed at destroying important life-sustaining objects, carrying out diversions within military objectives and capturing high-ranking officials of the republic and heads of security agencies", the press release states the so-called Ministry of Defense on the left side of the Dniester.

On the other hand, the Political Office for Reintegration informed that: "there is information with a provocative tone that pursues propaganda purposes" and recommends "information from official public sources, disseminated by the constitutional authorities".

TV8 mentions that in a recent interview with TASS journalists, the so-called president of the Transnistrian region, Vadim Krasnoselski, complained and expressed concern that the Republic of Moldova is increasing its security and defense budget.

"Nothing is done in vain, and in this case, money, equipment, weapons, air defense radars also go to a certain purpose. Which? Obviously not for protection. All the international players and even the Western partners of the Republic of Moldova recognize that Transnistria does not represent a danger for this country. So why are they arming themselves? The leadership of the Republic of Moldova does not provide clear answers to this question, but we already understand everything," Vadim Krasnoselski told journalists of the pro-Kremlin press agency.

We also note that the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) has indicated that the Kremlin may try to revive efforts to mobilize the Transnistrian region to create instability in the Republic of Moldova and to undermine Ukrainian grain exports along the coast of west of the Black Sea

https://tv8.md/2024/12/01/acuzatiile-tiraspolului-falsuri-ministerul-apararii-armata-instruieste-personal-pentru-nimicirea-obiectelor-explozive/248864

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 6:23:23 PM EDT
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BREAKING: It is with great sadness I must announce that Gonzalo Lira
@GonzaloLira1968
, passed away in a hospital according to his father, who has been fighting to get his son much-needed medical attention for the past weeks.

Here is a hand-written note from Gonzalo which I received on January 4: "I have had double pneumonia (both lungs) as well as pneumothorax and a very severe case of edema (swelling of the body). All this started in mid-October, but was ignored by the prison. They only admitted I had pneumonia at a Dec. 22 hearing. I am about to have a procedure to reduce the edema pressure in my lungs, which is causing me extreme shortness of breath, to the point of passing out after minimal activity, or even just talking for 2 minutes."

"He was tortured, extorted, incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days and the US Embassy did nothing to help my son," Gonzalo's father wrote.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 6:24:23 PM EDT
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BREAKING: It is with great sadness I must announce that Gonzalo Lira @GonzaloLira1968, passed away in a hospital according to his father, who has been fighting to get his son much-needed medical attention for the past weeks.

Here is a hand-written note from Gonzalo which I received on January 4: "I have had double pneumonia (both lungs) as well as pneumothorax and a very severe case of edema (swelling of the body). All this started in mid-October, but was ignored by the prison. They only admitted I had pneumonia at a Dec. 22 hearing. I am about to have a procedure to reduce the edema pressure in my lungs, which is causing me extreme shortness of breath, to the point of passing out after minimal activity, or even just talking for 2 minutes."

"He was tortured, extorted, incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days and the US Embassy did nothing to help my son," Gonzalo's father wrote.



Link Posted: 1/12/2024 6:38:45 PM EDT
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as the crew cannot control the turret rotation. Video speed x5.  
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Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 6:50:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2024 7:02:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2024 7:16:11 PM EDT
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Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.

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Orc tank LIT UP
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 8:15:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Commission approves €126 million Romanian State aid scheme to support ports facing increased trade flows due to Russia's war against Ukraine

The European Commission has approved, under EU State aid rules, a  €126 million Romanian scheme to support investments in ports facing increased trade flows after Russia's war against Ukraine. The measure facilitate flow trades in and from Ukraine in line with the  objectives of the EU's Solidarity Lanes action plan.

The Romanian scheme

Romania notified to the Commission its plans to support companies active in certain Romanian ports to invest in additional handling or storage facilities for processing goods deviated from their normal trading routes due to Russia's war against Ukraine, and the collapse of Ukraine's direct maritime export routes. The scheme, with a budget of €126 million (around RON 626 million), will run until 31 December 2024.

Under the scheme, the aid will take the form of grants up to €10 million to logistics companies active in Romanian maritime and inland ports located on: (i) the eastern border of the EU (Constanta, Galati, Giurgiu); (ii) the Danube - Black Sea Canal (Poarta Alba, Midia, and Navodari); (iii) the Sulina Canal or in the "satellite" ports of Constanța (Midia, and Mangalia). The aid cannot exceed the lowest of the following amounts: (i) €10 million per beneficiary, (ii) the funding gap, or (iii) 65% of the eligible costs of the project.

The measure will be partly funded through EU Cohesion funds and will contribute to the functioning of the EU-Ukraine Solidarity Lanes  by facilitating the trade flows in and from Ukraine.

The Commission's assessment

The Commission assessed the measure under EU State aid rules, in particular Article 107(3)(c) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, which enables Member States to support the development of certain economic activities subject to certain conditions.

The Commission found that:

The aid is necessary and appropriate to trigger the investment, which could not be carried out absent the aid as neither a market investor nor any financial institution would have financed it on commercial terms due to the uncertainties linked to the Russian war and the temporary nature of the trade flows it created.  
The aid is proportionate and limited to the minimum necessary to trigger the investments. Moreover, the aid level is based on a proven funding gap. Operators can receive only the aid that is necessary to cover the additional cost of equipment and storage needed for handling goods diverted from their normal trading routes.
The positive effects of the aid outweigh any potential negative effects on competition and trade between EU Member States. The trade flows concerned have naturally appeared in the ports that are geographically closest to Ukraine and will disappear once the crisis is resolved.
On that basis, the Commission approved the Romanian scheme under EU State aid rules.

For More Information

The non-confidential version of the decision will be made available under the case number SA.109965 in the State aid register on the Commission's competition website once any confidentiality issues have been resolved. New publications of State aid decisions on the internet and in the Official Journal are listed in the Competition Weekly e-News.

"This €126 million scheme will allow Romania to reduce bottlenecks created by the sudden surge in goods arriving in the Danube and Black Sea coast ports. The aid will support port operators to process and store queuing goods, thereby reducing the blockade caused by Russia’s war against Ukraine. This will contribute to the EU Solidarity Lanes action plan without unduly distorting competition in the Single Market."

-Margrethe Vestager, Executive Vice-President in charge of competition policy

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_104

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Great to see the EU actually helping a smaller nation improve its infrastructure for regional commerce.


Link Posted: 1/12/2024 8:30:01 PM EDT
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OK this is new


Somalia mercenary  captured by Ukraine forces


He looks scared lol

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 8:35:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Things are moving, even if glacially at times, on the political front. Three stories suggest that a deal on Ukraine is possible in Europe. Meloni continues to surprise and seemingly has been trying to work with sociopolitical ally in Orban to unlock aid.



The FT then reported that perhaps a deal is possible after all:



Then, just recently,



Again, nothing is done until it's done. In the US, things are still fairly uncertain, but Johnson seems to he holding firm :

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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Things are moving, even if glacially at times, on the political front. Three stories suggest that a deal on Ukraine is possible in Europe. Meloni continues to surprise and seemingly has been trying to work with sociopolitical ally in Orban to unlock aid.

Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni is seeking to convince Hungarian Premier Viktor Orban to lift his opposition to the European Union’s support for Ukraine and to improve relations with President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Meloni is also pushing Orban to shift his approach on Ukraine’s EU membership aspirations and to reset relations with Kyiv as conditions for joining the ECR, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Discussions have taken place at various levels and no decision has been taken.

Even though the EU will try to convince Hungary to lift its veto of the Ukraine financing at the next month’s summit, the leaders are also eying alternatives, which could include an agreement at 26 without Budapest. Hungary said on Wednesday during the meeting that it wants a yearly review mechanism that would need to approve the disbursals by unanimity, according to another person familiar with those talks.


The FT then reported that perhaps a deal is possible after all:

The European Commission is willing to bow to some of Hungary’s demands in order to secure a €50bn support package for Ukraine, according to senior officials.

As a way to convince Orbán to drop his veto, the commission is open to giving Hungary’s premier an opportunity in 2025 to stop the funding deal midway through, three officials briefed on the matter told the Financial Times.

Under the potential concession, the EU would include a review of the four-year support package next year, when it will evaluate whether Ukraine still needs the cash and has met the requirements to receive EU aid. This would give Orbán the chance to veto its continuation.

Asked if this would be sufficient for Orbán to drop his veto, a senior Hungarian official said: “Still uncertain, but I say most probably yes.”

The Hungarians “are in a negotiating mood”, said a person briefed on the discussions. Brussels unlocked €10bn of EU funding for Hungary in December that was previously frozen due to rule of law concerns, a few weeks after it approved a separate €900mn payout to the country.


Then, just recently,

The foreign ministers of Hungary and Ukraine will meet in western Ukraine at the end of January, the Hungarian government said on Friday.


Again, nothing is done until it's done. In the US, things are still fairly uncertain, but Johnson seems to he holding firm :

US House Speaker Mike Johnson refused Friday to cave to pressure from hardline Republicans, empowering him to work with Democrats to avoid a shutdown, fund Ukraine and strike a border compromise — unless his rebellious right flank brings him down first.

The new speaker, still a novice in high-stakes negotiations, stood by a bipartisan spending deal he reached with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, even as at least two ultra-conservatives suggested they’re ready to show Johnson the door.

Some moderate Republicans, many of whom represent areas President Joe Biden carried in 2020 and are crucial to the GOP maintaining its narrow House majority, met with Johnson before his announcement and urged him to stick with the deal.

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a hardliner from Georgia, said she would vote to oust Johnson over Ukraine funding, which she says shouldn’t be a prerequisite for strong action on border security. Ukraine spending is currently separate from the spending deal, but some lawmakers think it ultimately will be tied to a full-year funding package.

Oh no, the 1D chess players are up in arms!  


Link Posted: 1/12/2024 8:39:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:


BREAKING: It is with great sadness I must announce that Gonzalo Lira
@GonzaloLira1968
, passed away in a hospital according to his father, who has been fighting to get his son much-needed medical attention for the past weeks.

Here is a hand-written note from Gonzalo which I received on January 4: "I have had double pneumonia (both lungs) as well as pneumothorax and a very severe case of edema (swelling of the body). All this started in mid-October, but was ignored by the prison. They only admitted I had pneumonia at a Dec. 22 hearing. I am about to have a procedure to reduce the edema pressure in my lungs, which is causing me extreme shortness of breath, to the point of passing out after minimal activity, or even just talking for 2 minutes."

"He was tortured, extorted, incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days and the US Embassy did nothing to help my son," Gonzalo's father wrote.
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:
Gonzalo Lira dead in Ukrainian prison


BREAKING: It is with great sadness I must announce that Gonzalo Lira
@GonzaloLira1968
, passed away in a hospital according to his father, who has been fighting to get his son much-needed medical attention for the past weeks.

Here is a hand-written note from Gonzalo which I received on January 4: "I have had double pneumonia (both lungs) as well as pneumothorax and a very severe case of edema (swelling of the body). All this started in mid-October, but was ignored by the prison. They only admitted I had pneumonia at a Dec. 22 hearing. I am about to have a procedure to reduce the edema pressure in my lungs, which is causing me extreme shortness of breath, to the point of passing out after minimal activity, or even just talking for 2 minutes."

"He was tortured, extorted, incommunicado for 8 months and 11 days and the US Embassy did nothing to help my son," Gonzalo's father wrote.

Why does daddy think the US embassy should be involved?  He was warned multiple times. -arrested, paroled and he still helped Russia target Ukraine sites. He should have shut up or left a long time ago.


Link Posted: 1/12/2024 8:50:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/12/2024 8:56:53 PM EDT
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Incoming.

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 9:09:14 PM EDT
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Here it goes again.

Someone needs to hit the epicenter of Mordor.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 9:12:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.

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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

as the crew cannot control the turret rotation. Video speed x5.  


Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.



There's a thread on the tank porn subreddit about this particular engagement. In short, there's actually two Bradleys. One engages first and retreats, and a second one comes in after the T90 pops smoke. The T-90's turret appears to get damaged, and the two Bradleys then gang up on it. I haven't examined the clip that closely, but, provided that's the case, this might be a mixture of training to use their advantages and also a bit of luck.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 9:34:10 PM EDT
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OK this is new


Somalia mercenary  captured by Ukraine forces


He looks scared lol

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And the Russians don't want him back lol

Sad that they're able to find cheap meat bags so easily from abroad. This is why having a good IO game on social media is so important. Showing Africans the reality of war would dissuade even the desperate looking for a check especially from lying Russians.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 9:44:33 PM EDT
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There's a thread on the tank porn subreddit about this particular engagement. In short, there's actually two Bradleys. One engages first and retreats, and a second one comes in after the T90 pops smoke. The T-90's turret appears to get damaged, and the two Bradleys then gang up on it. I haven't examined the clip that closely, but, provided that's the case, this might be a mixture of training to use their advantages and also a bit of luck.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

as the crew cannot control the turret rotation. Video speed x5.  


Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.



There's a thread on the tank porn subreddit about this particular engagement. In short, there's actually two Bradleys. One engages first and retreats, and a second one comes in after the T90 pops smoke. The T-90's turret appears to get damaged, and the two Bradleys then gang up on it. I haven't examined the clip that closely, but, provided that's the case, this might be a mixture of training to use their advantages and also a bit of luck.



Great find, thanks for this bit of info.

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 10:19:00 PM EDT
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❗They report the takeoff of 10 Tu-95MS bombers from the Olenya airbase. The estimated time for cruise missile launches is 4:00-4:30 am.
Earlier, kamikaze drones "Geran" visited the Kyiv region, reconnaissance of Ukrainian air defense positions.

Informant

https://t.me/infomil_live/3111



According to enemy monitoring channels, the planes were heading for landing, but then turned around and flew back to the cruise missile launch ranges.
Interesting maneuvers of Strategic Aviation. Apparently, so as not to relax too much.

Informant

https://t.me/infomil_live/3112



‼️✈️ Departure of 2 Tu-95ms from "Engels"
In total, there are 13 Tu-95ms in the air of the Russian Federation

https://t.me/povitryanatrivogaaa/74804

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 10:34:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

There was a report that the F-16s were getting a radar upgrade, and someone posted info that a drop-in export AESA was available.
IMO F-16s will probably shoot HARMS for a while to diminish the Russian AD threat.  Remember that Russian fighters are almost exclusively operating behind their own SAMs.  If their SAMs start to go away they become a lot less secure and might be pushed back even further.
It's standard practice to carry two AMRAAMS on the wingtips now.  Two AMRAAMS, two HARMS, and two tanks is very doable.  Or two AMRAAMS, two JDAMS, and two tanks.
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I do not think it is going to be as easy as you say. Those SAMs are going to be targeting the F-16s as well. And I doubt the F-16s would violate Russian air space. If they fly high, they will have to dodge missiles and eventually get shot down.

As for 2 AMRAAMs, that's 2 chances to make the kill from a distance. It also needs an ECM pod since it does not have an internal unit, right? And then still it has shorter range to make it to the target and back safely. Contrast that to a hypothetical Su-30/35 carrying up to 6 medium-range missiles and it can absolutely force the F-16 to be on the defensive and wear it down.

Now there are reports of them using the R-37 as well, which has longer range than even the AIM-120, so the Sukhoi could very well be the first to launch those missiles and force the F-16 to begin the fight by evading, while the Sukhoi keeps spamming missiles. That is a tough spot to be in for a Ukrainian pilot fresh out of pilot school.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russian-su-35-uses-never-used-before-r37-m-air-to-air-missile

The Ukrainian pilots would be fighting an uphill battle vs the Russian air force. Losses will be unavoidable when fighting a peer, and likely significant. And if we are talking a few dozen F-16s, that will not be enough to turn the tide when the Russians can field several hundred Sukhoi variants. You are right that Russia is using them sparingly, but they are available when they need them against NATO jets.

To be frank, the F-15 would likely be a more appropriate plane to bring the fight to the Sukhois, but that is not even on the table.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 10:35:59 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, in Mordor.
Shaman has become the premiere artist promoting the "Special Military Operation".  The armband is very apropos.

The lyrics are: Give them hell

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 10:44:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ad_nauseam:
Meanwhile, in Mordor.
Shaman has become the premiere artist promoting the "Special Military Operation".  The armband is very apropos.

The lyrics are: Give them hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2edDmIb1E8s
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Man, that guy has spent some time in front of a glory hole testing his gag reflex.

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 10:59:08 PM EDT
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Great find, thanks for this bit of info.

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Originally Posted By Jaehaerys:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

as the crew cannot control the turret rotation. Video speed x5.  


Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.



There's a thread on the tank porn subreddit about this particular engagement. In short, there's actually two Bradleys. One engages first and retreats, and a second one comes in after the T90 pops smoke. The T-90's turret appears to get damaged, and the two Bradleys then gang up on it. I haven't examined the clip that closely, but, provided that's the case, this might be a mixture of training to use their advantages and also a bit of luck.



Great find, thanks for this bit of info.



Russian OSINT

A video has appeared from the Ukrainian Armed Forces regarding Petrovsky, it is long, but nothing much happens there. Here the Bradley infantry fighting vehicle drives along the blue one and shoots our already damaged equipment, but does not drive deep into Petrovskoye, presumably ours are there in the basements. In the first screenshot, the tank at the indicated point (Bradley finishes it off first) actually got there, as he said earlier.
https://t.me/motopatriot/18447

Lots of very sad emojis.
You know, from many sides, of course, everyone is throwing their hats in the air and constantly trying to drag me in... But in fact. Just around Petrovskoye, it turns out that 30 pieces of equipment have already been destroyed, along with a small area near the railway, where the road to the village is. Well, in this case I can’t say that everything is over. And how many people are supposed to be there... it’s hard to even guess.
https://t.me/motopatriot/18456


Well, about Bradley... they were already impatient on defense. Now the crests seem to have learned to use them correctly and they are also becoming imbes in the attack.
https://t.me/motopatriot/18457

Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:05:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Looks like the entire Russian advance was repulsed by FPV drones.  NSFW


https://x.com/region776/status/1745845981017686342
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Holy shit, that guy at the end turns into “smoldering skeleton in a shell crater” before your very eyes.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:06:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
❗They report the takeoff of 10 Tu-95MS bombers from the Olenya airbase. The estimated time for cruise missile launches is 4:00-4:30 am.
Earlier, kamikaze drones "Geran" visited the Kyiv region, reconnaissance of Ukrainian air defense positions.

Informant

https://t.me/infomil_live/3111



According to enemy monitoring channels, the planes were heading for landing, but then turned around and flew back to the cruise missile launch ranges.
Interesting maneuvers of Strategic Aviation. Apparently, so as not to relax too much.

Informant

https://t.me/infomil_live/3112



‼️✈️ Departure of 2 Tu-95ms from "Engels"
In total, there are 13 Tu-95ms in the air of the Russian Federation

https://t.me/povitryanatrivogaaa/74804

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Yeah just woke up to explosions.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:11:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RockNwood:

WTAF???  A NASA astronaut is going up with fucking terrorist Russians?!  Hostage reception committee pick up the red courtesy phone. Hostage reception committee to the red commie courtesy phone.

This clown show is so pathetic I’m crying.

WTAF. How much are we paying the Russians to hold one of our astronauts captive in space?

As retarded as the Republicans are, Biden says Hold my beer and watch this!!!!





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Originally Posted By Prime:
At Baikonur, ships were reactivated for launch to the ISS

The Progress MS-26 cargo ship and the manned Soyuz MS-25 have been in storage since 2023.

Specialists of the Rocket and Space Corporation Energia named after S.P. Korolev conducted an external inspection and checked the original condition of the on-board systems. The preparation of the tanks of the “Spring” system of the Progress MS-26 ship for filling with drinking water has begun. In the near future, test switching on of service equipment and comprehensive electrical tests of the Soyuz MS-25 spacecraft are planned.

“The launch of the Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle with the Progress MS-26 spacecraft is planned for February 15, 2024. The launch of the Soyuz MS-25 spacecraft by the Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle is scheduled for March 2024. The main crew of the 21st expedition includes Roscosmos cosmonaut Oleg Novitsky, space flight participant from the Republic of Belarus Marina Vasilevskaya and NASA astronaut Tracy Dyson,” Roscosmos reported.


https://t.me/orda_kz/73141


WTAF???  A NASA astronaut is going up with fucking terrorist Russians?!  Hostage reception committee pick up the red courtesy phone. Hostage reception committee to the red commie courtesy phone.

This clown show is so pathetic I’m crying.

WTAF. How much are we paying the Russians to hold one of our astronauts captive in space?

As retarded as the Republicans are, Biden says Hold my beer and watch this!!!!








Don't worry- Tracy's a woman, so it's safe money she's just going up there to throw another expensive tool bag into space.  

Hopefully it's a Russian one this time.
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Does anyone know the name of the treaty between England and Poland prior to WWII?

Again, England seems to be the conscience of the world...
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:15:32 PM EDT
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Holy shit, that guy at the end turns into “smoldering skeleton in a shell crater” before your very eyes.
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Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:21:47 PM EDT
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Ukrainian Iveco LMV (Lince) armored vehicle, equipped with a Leonardo (Oto Melara) HITROLE Light remote-controlled combat module with a 12.7 mm M2 machine gun, destroyed by Russian loitering ammunition "Lancet".



Соmbat work of Russian crews of T-72B3 tanks.
Tankers from Buryatia are on duty on the line of combat contact around the clock, taking turns replacing each other.



Сombat work of the Sani mortar crew



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I'm looking forward to video of all that Russian stuff on fire, and soon.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:21:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ad_nauseam:



Really the "Big Picture" is that Ukraine has shown tremendous restraint. If I were in place of Zelensky, I would have found a way to demolish Kremlin. Something symbolic without any casualties. The big Kremlin tower with the big clock on it, or maybe St Basil's Cathedral, the one on the Red Square. Or the Lenin tomb where the freak still resides.  

Just f-ing strike it. If they can strike Kiev and kill sleeping 2 year olds on a daily basis, common sense would suggest it's only fair game to hit Moscow. They won't understand otherwise. This will have to be ended *IN* Russia. Just trust me on this one.

nato is stupid. What if that leads to escalation? I mean, what are they going to do, if Moscow is hit?   Bomb Kiev?

We are living the worst scenario. And Putin got too much vested to strike London or Berlin or anything like that. If he can't conquer a neighboring republic which is 27 times smaller territory-wise and 1/4 of the population, and the GDP is also much less. What hope does he have of conquering anything bigger than that? And if he can't conquer Germany/Berlin/US, there is utterly no point in starting a conflict with them under any circumstances. So nato/us' fear of retaliation is unfounded. Give Ukrops some long range missiles and target Moscow. Target the 870 year old Kremlin.

There, I said it.

NATO/US strategists are wrong.

The more damage Russia itself takes, the less likely it will continue the war and it needs internal destabilization and ultimately collapse of Putinism. That's why I think ultimately both RDK and the Legion Free Russia will play a key role in the process. They fight alongside the Ukrop partners, for now but when/if the way is over, they plan to march on Moscow itself.
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I'm with you on this. Not sure if it would help the war effort, maybe even motivate more Russians to fight, but fuck those murderous assholes.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:21:57 PM EDT
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There is a lot going on in that video. Looks like rockets at 1 o'clock earlier in the video, cluster munitions at 9 o'clock, while the tank gets a heapin' helping of hate from the Bradleys.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:33:27 PM EDT
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Just wanted to add that in a lot of the fpv drone strikes the things that come spinning off like fireworks after the explosion are most likely the batteries that were powering the drone on the way in. That is what happens when you poke a hole in a lithium battery.
Lifepo4 batteries are much less explody.
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:40:10 PM EDT
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In the Mykolaiv region, a soldier shot his commander, and then committed suicide

In the Mykolaiv region, a serviceman shot his commander, and then committed suicide.
This was reported to an Ukrinform correspondent by the head of the Mykolaiv Specialized Prosecutor's Office in the field of defense of the Southern region, Andriy Kliopov.

"The incident took place on January 7. The serviceman shot the deputy company commander about six times with his own machine gun, as a result of which he died. Then the serviceman shot himself," Kliopov said.

According to him, criminal proceedings have been initiated. The investigation is carried out by the Investigative Department of the Main Directorate of the National Police in Mykolaiv region, procedural guidance is provided by the Mykolaiv Special Prosecutor's Office in the field of defense.

Other circumstances of the incident are being established, interrogations of witnesses are ongoing.

As reported, in June 2023 in the Mykolaiv region, a young man killed three people, after which he shot himself.

https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-regions/3812600-na-mikolaivsini-vijskovij-zastreliv-svogo-komandira-a-todi-pokinciv-zitta-samogubstvom.html

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Thats a good start...
Link Posted: 1/12/2024 11:51:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

There is a lot going on in that video. Looks like rockets at 1 o'clock earlier in the video, cluster munitions at 9 o'clock, while the tank gets a heapin' helping of hate from the Bradleys.
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wicked clusters  
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.

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Amazing footage. That tank took a couple dozen hits. Probably everything is shot to shit on it.
Link Posted: 1/13/2024 12:05:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Amazing footage. That tank took a couple dozen hits. Probably everything is shot to shit on it.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.


Amazing footage. That tank took a couple dozen hits. Probably everything is shot to shit on it.
Yep, I know tanks have a lot of armor, but I was actually surprised that the thing was still rolling after all that.  It seems like they would have at least blown a track off.
Link Posted: 1/13/2024 12:11:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

There is a lot going on in that video. Looks like rockets at 1 o'clock earlier in the video, cluster munitions at 9 o'clock, while the tank gets a heapin' helping of hate from the Bradleys.
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Yup. Numerous impacts in the distance. The fiery explosion near the T90 is probably something hit by one of the Brad rounds. Some UXO or some RU ammo stash. Quite the epic scene. I'd love a close look at that T90 to check out the damage from the 25mm.
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Originally Posted By absael:
Yep, I know tanks have a lot of armor, but I was actually surprised that the thing was still rolling after all that.  It seems like they would have at least blown a track off.
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If they ever managed to drive it back to depot, the chief mechanic probably had a stroke with every part of the tank taking a 25mm hit. The autorotating turret is always humorous.
Link Posted: 1/13/2024 12:44:09 AM EDT
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Two hours into this new missile barrage. Ugh!
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Originally Posted By bikedamon:


Holy shit, that guy at the end turns into “smoldering skeleton in a shell crater” before your very eyes.



Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.

That’s what is displayed when the video is marked sensitive content and you are not logged in. Log in and you can see it.


Link Posted: 1/13/2024 1:04:53 AM EDT
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Orc tank LIT UP
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.



Orc tank LIT UP


That some world of tanks shit... Bradley taking on a T90
Link Posted: 1/13/2024 1:06:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.

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as the crew cannot control the turret rotation. Video speed x5.  


Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.


Solid gold.  One of the best armor combat videos of the war.
Link Posted: 1/13/2024 1:09:03 AM EDT
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That's what Twitter shows people who are not logged in to Twitter when they deem the content inappropriate. Some things, you just have to be logged in to see.
Link Posted: 1/13/2024 1:35:45 AM EDT
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There's a thread on the tank porn subreddit about this particular engagement. In short, there's actually two Bradleys. One engages first and retreats, and a second one comes in after the T90 pops smoke. The T-90's turret appears to get damaged, and the two Bradleys then gang up on it. I haven't examined the clip that closely, but, provided that's the case, this might be a mixture of training to use their advantages and also a bit of luck.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

as the crew cannot control the turret rotation. Video speed x5.  


Full video  8 minutes at normal speed, T-90 had its bell rung.



There's a thread on the tank porn subreddit about this particular engagement. In short, there's actually two Bradleys. One engages first and retreats, and a second one comes in after the T90 pops smoke. The T-90's turret appears to get damaged, and the two Bradleys then gang up on it. I haven't examined the clip that closely, but, provided that's the case, this might be a mixture of training to use their advantages and also a bit of luck.

The Bradleys have probably been carrying 100% HE because that’s what they need to deal with infantry.  Maybe they should keep the small hopper full of AP, or even just 50 rounds of AP at the bottom of the small hopper.
With now two instances of anti-armor work it makes sense.  AP will kill a BMP fast and probably mobility kill a T72.
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They keep on coming.

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Originally Posted By strykr:

I do not think it is going to be as easy as you say. Those SAMs are going to be targeting the F-16s as well. And I doubt the F-16s would violate Russian air space. If they fly high, they will have to dodge missiles and eventually get shot down.

As for 2 AMRAAMs, that's 2 chances to make the kill from a distance. It also needs an ECM pod since it does not have an internal unit, right? And then still it has shorter range to make it to the target and back safely. Contrast that to a hypothetical Su-30/35 carrying up to 6 medium-range missiles and it can absolutely force the F-16 to be on the defensive and wear it down.

Now there are reports of them using the R-37 as well, which has longer range than even the AIM-120, so the Sukhoi could very well be the first to launch those missiles and force the F-16 to begin the fight by evading, while the Sukhoi keeps spamming missiles. That is a tough spot to be in for a Ukrainian pilot fresh out of pilot school.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russian-su-35-uses-never-used-before-r37-m-air-to-air-missile

The Ukrainian pilots would be fighting an uphill battle vs the Russian air force. Losses will be unavoidable when fighting a peer, and likely significant. And if we are talking a few dozen F-16s, that will not be enough to turn the tide when the Russians can field several hundred Sukhoi variants. You are right that Russia is using them sparingly, but they are available when they need them against NATO jets.

To be frank, the F-15 would likely be a more appropriate plane to bring the fight to the Sukhois, but that is not even on the table.
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There was a report that the F-16s were getting a radar upgrade, and someone posted info that a drop-in export AESA was available.
IMO F-16s will probably shoot HARMS for a while to diminish the Russian AD threat.  Remember that Russian fighters are almost exclusively operating behind their own SAMs.  If their SAMs start to go away they become a lot less secure and might be pushed back even further.
It's standard practice to carry two AMRAAMS on the wingtips now.  Two AMRAAMS, two HARMS, and two tanks is very doable.  Or two AMRAAMS, two JDAMS, and two tanks.

I do not think it is going to be as easy as you say. Those SAMs are going to be targeting the F-16s as well. And I doubt the F-16s would violate Russian air space. If they fly high, they will have to dodge missiles and eventually get shot down.

As for 2 AMRAAMs, that's 2 chances to make the kill from a distance. It also needs an ECM pod since it does not have an internal unit, right? And then still it has shorter range to make it to the target and back safely. Contrast that to a hypothetical Su-30/35 carrying up to 6 medium-range missiles and it can absolutely force the F-16 to be on the defensive and wear it down.

Now there are reports of them using the R-37 as well, which has longer range than even the AIM-120, so the Sukhoi could very well be the first to launch those missiles and force the F-16 to begin the fight by evading, while the Sukhoi keeps spamming missiles. That is a tough spot to be in for a Ukrainian pilot fresh out of pilot school.

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/russian-su-35-uses-never-used-before-r37-m-air-to-air-missile

The Ukrainian pilots would be fighting an uphill battle vs the Russian air force. Losses will be unavoidable when fighting a peer, and likely significant. And if we are talking a few dozen F-16s, that will not be enough to turn the tide when the Russians can field several hundred Sukhoi variants. You are right that Russia is using them sparingly, but they are available when they need them against NATO jets.

To be frank, the F-15 would likely be a more appropriate plane to bring the fight to the Sukhois, but that is not even on the table.

I don’t think the F-16s will be going after SUs for a long time.
If Mig-29s can survive by being careful, so can F-16s.  Ukraine has only lost 7-8 aircraft all of 2023 (vs 60 in 2022) per Oryx.
Mig-29s have already been launching HARMS “dumb.”  F-16s will do it better and will probably start extracting a higher toll of SAMs pretty quickly.
The Russians rely on their SAM coverage.  It’s like their minefield doctrine.  The SAMs are mines.  The SUs are ATGMs.  Except in this case the MCLIC (HARM) outranges the ATGM.
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I don't think the F-16s will be going after SUs for a long time.
If Mig-29s can survive by being careful, so can F-16s.  Ukraine has only lost 7-8 aircraft all of 2023 (vs 60 in 2022) per Oryx.
Mig-29s have already been launching HARMS "dumb."  F-16s will do it better and will probably start extracting a higher toll of SAMs pretty quickly.
The Russians rely on their SAM coverage.  It's like their minefield doctrine.  The SAMs are mines.  The SUs are ATGMs.  Except in this case the MCLIC (HARM) outranges the ATGM.
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Agree, it should be priority to go after the medium and long range SAMs and their associated radar systems as these things are far, far harder to replace than armor. Creating big holes in their airspace will cause panic within the Russian officer corp.


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Folks, don't buy into the hype of the mighty Russian Flankers. Go read about the engagement between Pakistani F-16A Block 15 MLU vs. Indian Su-30 MKI from a few years ago. These Pakistani F-16s are very similar to the version being gifted to Ukraine by various European nations and are among the oldest of F-16s still in service. They totally had the Indian Flankers on the defensive during the entire engagement, getting the first shots and controlling the engagement. And the Indian Flankers are among the best and most sophisticated in the world. Next to the Su-35, the Su-30MKI is probably the best Flanker variant in service. After this engagement, the Indians went to the Israelis and had them equip their Flankers for the Israeli Derby active radar missiles because the Russian R-77 Amraamski sucked so terribly. And the Indians started buying more French Rafale fighters because they came to the realization that western fighters are greatly superior to the Russian shit. And don't even get me started on the much hyped Russian R-37 missile. It may have range but it is designed for going after big, lumbering targets like AWACS and tankers. It isn't a dogfight missile and will fare poorly when employed against fighter aircraft that have good situational awareness.
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Agree, it should be priority to go after the medium and long range SAMs and their associated radar systems as these things are far, far harder to replace than armor. Creating big holes in their airspace will cause panic within the Russian officer corp.

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Originally Posted By Capta:

I don't think the F-16s will be going after SUs for a long time.
If Mig-29s can survive by being careful, so can F-16s.  Ukraine has only lost 7-8 aircraft all of 2023 (vs 60 in 2022) per Oryx.
Mig-29s have already been launching HARMS "dumb."  F-16s will do it better and will probably start extracting a higher toll of SAMs pretty quickly.
The Russians rely on their SAM coverage.  It's like their minefield doctrine.  The SAMs are mines.  The SUs are ATGMs.  Except in this case the MCLIC (HARM) outranges the ATGM.

Agree, it should be priority to go after the medium and long range SAMs and their associated radar systems as these things are far, far harder to replace than armor. Creating big holes in their airspace will cause panic within the Russian officer corp.


That and the SAM crews are their best people.  Start killing some of them and the pain will begin to increase.
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