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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:43:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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    😬 headshot.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:45:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Comments are pretty gross, but expected. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Easterner: Watching this now myself. We have been waiting for this video interview that has a couple of our guys visiting Garandthumb.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tge7YMi4gJsYeah we were reading the Instagram posts the day prior. Lol |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 1:57:10 AM EDT
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So, Z-Russians on Telegram are now talking about their losses in the Battle of Avdiivka in 2023-2024. Allegedly, it's 16,000 men as 'irreplaceable losses' (e.g., all fatalities + all severely wounded that will never be back to ranks again), as well as around 300 armored vehicles. So, if that's true (though it's likely that Russians traditionally understate their losses, at least when it comes to lost equipment, given the gargantuan amount of verified video footage we've seen) -- it means that over the four months of the Avdiivka campaign between mid-October and mid-February, the Russian fatalities rate surpassed the official death toll of the Soviet-Afghan War (1979-1989), which stands at 15,000 fatalities. Yes, the ill-fated and formerly sadly-remembered senseless war in 'Afghan' that once left a heavy scar on an entire generation and particularly precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union... Fighting for Avdiivka continued since the very days of 2014 and 2015 and lasted with varying intensity all those years before 2022, and was also extremely bloodletting and fierce for almost two years of Russia's full-scale invasion. Moreover, the claimed Russian death toll at Avdiivka... literally corresponds to some 50% of the city's entire population in 2021 (some 32,000). And that's within the last four months alone and according to likely downplayed Russian estimates. I guess that to take New York City, Russians would have to ditch 4.5 million soldiers under the same scheme or what? And the defense of Avdiivka gradually crumbled particularly due to a severe lack of munitions and means to counter Russian jets relentlessly throwing dozens of guided bombs at the city each and every day. Stalemate around the Ukraine aid at the U.S. Congress is already taking its toll. And amid all those shortcomings, see the absolutely savage efficacy of the Ukrainian defense, outnumbered and outgunned, -- again. A four-month battle vs a 10-year-long war in Afghanistan. Those are death toll estimates from Russians, not us. We could have been celebrating victory over the aggressor right now, or at least we could have been much closer to restoring just and stable peace in Europe if Ukraine had been provided with everything it asked for. There's still time.
Russian propagandists did not enjoy the revelations by Murz. Had a whole 30-minute segment on Solovyev's channel, and even read the statement out loud. Funnily enough, they didn't argue the numbers, only discussed the repercussions that Murz deserves. I'd tell them, leave Murz alone. It is obviously convenient criticising someone criticising your enormous senseless losses from a studio. You don't want the people of your country to know the truth that 16,000+ men were brutally killed to occupy a piece of land no one will be talking about in a few weeks. The trick of the great patriotic war won't work here, the info of this disaster will continue leaking, and fire back at you eventually. Your best bet is to get your sh*t and f*ck off from Ukraine.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:05:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:17:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat wasn’t as bad as the one where the guy pulled the pin and held it at arms length in both hands while looking directly at it. Still, I hope he didn’t suffer long. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:18:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: I'm not the one telling people when and where they are and aren't allowed to post and throwing insults like this around constantly - that would be you. More than one person has called you on it, and one thanked me for pointing out your schtick. I've said what I have to say and will just wait a day or two for you to find your way back out. If all you're doing is arguing with someone, is that really contributing to the thread and the body of knowledge we assemble here? Guns is gonna drop an account warning on you for this stuff, if I understand the new thread rules. Sample pattern: Daemon throws some obscure knowledge bomb, people without access to the info have varying surprised responses including "GTFO with that BS." I get it, he's abrasive in his delivery. But if you can't argue the facts, move on. Don't make posts ad hominem, which is exactly what the above post is, and don't bog down in minutiae. I'm not trying to be an ass, just trying to avoid thread drift & clutter. Honestly, more Claire would be better than some of what we've had the last couple pages. end off-topic |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:29:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:34:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
This is where Putin's rhetoric comes into play. This is not foreign adventurism, like Afghanistan was. This war is an existential requirement for the survival of Russia, according to Putin. There's a reminder of that fact in TASS just today. The Kremlin is selling all these deaths as a necessary defense of the Motherland, and total media control makes that the one message available to the public. There's no counter-narrative to even debate that image. So the war continues. 
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Posted: 2/19/2024 2:44:30 AM EDT
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This is low hanging fruit.
Sanctioned vessel in Ukrainian waters. https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/Details.aspx?id=42190 
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:08:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:24:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:39:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:44:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Houthi tangent.
Armed Forces spokesman: Our air defenses were able, with God’s help, to shoot down an American plane (MQ9) with a suitable missile while it was carrying out hostile missions against our country on behalf of the enemy entity. https://t.me/almasirah2/122246
 
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Posted: 2/19/2024 3:52:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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🔴🔴🔴 Mariupol. Not just loud, but fire! It is reported that a burning plane has fallen in the area of the village. Fishing In addition, the city continues to hear explosions. What a fun Monday. Rusnia, did you eat? https://t.me/andriyshTime/18388
   https://twitter.com/TreasChest/status/1759485792370499791 Vehicle traffic on the Crimean Bridge is temporarily blocked. Those on the bridge and in the inspection area are asked to remain calm and follow the instructions of transport security officers. https://t.me/most_official/4554 Reports on the work of air defense in Donetsk and Makeevka https://t.me/itsdonetsk/137028 Possibly this, although it seemed REALLY quick- Mariupol ... Komsomol members shot down a British-made Banshee Jet-80 UAV ... https://t.me/supernova_plus/28419 Video
   Kremenivka of the Mariupol district. 20 minutes ago - the work of enemy air defense. Hey, you guys in Mariupol, Taganrog and Rostov don't relax yet. We have not yet asked all the questions about bread. https://t.me/andriyshTime/18413 Huh. This may or may not be the same incident, but I'm a little skeptical.
  02/19/2024 Rybatskoe village, Mariupol district, Donetsk People's Republic, Russia. On the Su-34 - again and again - p#dezh. Regarding the Su-35, there is no good news. And again the question is open - who shot down... /by the way, the A-50 and Su-35 were also written off as Patriots. This is the case when some top leaders, in order to cover their own ass, are even ready to wave at the enemy. And the essence of the problem is the lack of normal communications among our air defense forces. https://t.me/romanov_92/44339 And again the question of connection is raised, and again in connection with a very bitter experience. Friendly fire is precisely a consequence of the lack of high-quality communication, although Sun Tzu wrote about the importance of communication a couple of thousand years ago. And a detailed description of our communications project, which has already been implemented and has proven itself in large departments, is gathering dust somewhere on the desk of some general in the Main Communications Directorate. This is what causes sadness most of all. Although for the cost of the Su-35 it would be possible to implement the project on the entire front and even do more, including creating reserves. https://t.me/Alekhin_Telega/9459 |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 4:16:14 AM EDT
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Avdiivka. Another recording from the coking plant region, when it was still in the hands of Ukrainian soldiers. These are the last hours of Ukrainian control over this area.
Avdiivka is already under Russian control. Footage of street fighting in Avdeevka through the eyes of soldiers of the 3rd Assault Brigade During the repulse of the attack, up to 7 tanks were destroyed, including two T-90 "Vladimir", 2 units of BMP and TOS "Solntsepok" Biłohorivka, Ukrainian drones in action. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 4:55:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: If all you're doing is arguing with someone, is that really contributing to the thread and the body of knowledge we assemble here? Guns is gonna drop an account warning on you for this stuff, if I understand the new thread rules. Sample pattern: Daemon throws some obscure knowledge bomb, people without access to the info have varying surprised responses including "GTFO with that BS." I get it, he's abrasive in his delivery. But if you can't argue the facts, move on. Don't make posts ad hominem, which is exactly what the above post is, and don't bog down in minutiae. I'm not trying to be an ass, just trying to avoid thread drift & clutter. Honestly, more Claire would be better than some of what we've had the last couple pages. end off-topic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By sywagon: I'm not the one telling people when and where they are and aren't allowed to post and throwing insults like this around constantly - that would be you. More than one person has called you on it, and one thanked me for pointing out your schtick. I've said what I have to say and will just wait a day or two for you to find your way back out. If all you're doing is arguing with someone, is that really contributing to the thread and the body of knowledge we assemble here? Guns is gonna drop an account warning on you for this stuff, if I understand the new thread rules. Sample pattern: Daemon throws some obscure knowledge bomb, people without access to the info have varying surprised responses including "GTFO with that BS." I get it, he's abrasive in his delivery. But if you can't argue the facts, move on. Don't make posts ad hominem, which is exactly what the above post is, and don't bog down in minutiae. I'm not trying to be an ass, just trying to avoid thread drift & clutter. Honestly, more Claire would be better than some of what we've had the last couple pages. end off-topic On the other hand daemon hasn’t really provided any facts. Such as actual numbers backed up by anything. He challenges opposing opinions to provide facts but he doesn’t. At least that I’ve seen. He tells people they are wrong, but has no other facts to back up his opinions either. He literally jumped in after a post of detailed information on the cost of demil DPICM and claimed the opposite. Without any numbers or references. There are at least three detailed posts that refute his claims with both data and cites. It’s pretty clear the cost to transport is near the same as demil and his claim that transport is far cheaper is just as wrong as my claim that transport is cheaper. Kind of tarnishes any claim he has to be an SME in either matter. I make no claim to be an SME in anything other than system design, managing teams and projects. I have passing experience as a commercial driver in quarries where tanker trucks of explosives come every two weeks to blow rocks up, and transporting hazmat of everything but 1.1 by truck, and building an expense system for railroad that tracks every possible cost for transporting by rail. All that to say 1.1 hazmat is more expensive than other HM but incrementally so not outrageously so. There are well defined procedures, containment and companies that specialize in it to move it around the world every single day without a big fuss. And it doesn’t take an SME to observe that certain posters work very hard to find excuses not to aid Ukraine without contributing any ideas or knowledge of how to do something to counter Russia. Which is exactly what we see in our political and military leadership: paralysis by analysis combined with obsession of fears over escalation or some war in the future that may or may not happen. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:01:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: This is where Putin's rhetoric comes into play. This is not foreign adventurism, like Afghanistan was. This war is an existential requirement for the survival of Russia, according to Putin. There's a reminder of that fact in TASS just today. The Kremlin is selling all these deaths as a necessary defense of the Motherland, and total media control makes that the one message available to the public. There's no counter-narrative to even debate that image. So the war continues. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Prime:
This is where Putin's rhetoric comes into play. This is not foreign adventurism, like Afghanistan was. This war is an existential requirement for the survival of Russia, according to Putin. There's a reminder of that fact in TASS just today. The Kremlin is selling all these deaths as a necessary defense of the Motherland, and total media control makes that the one message available to the public. There's no counter-narrative to even debate that image. So the war continues. Exactly right. Since Russia is based on a kleptocratic empire model of resource and population exploitation, it must expand and acquire fresh lands and peoples. Otherwise they will spend what they have already captured and be left with nothing. Your point is exactly what many Western leaders seem oblivious to. It isn’t Putin or a good or bad replacement. The entire country and culture is to feather the bed of Moscow and St Petersburg by pillaging outer provinces and new subject countries. Any Russian leader must expand the empire or it will collapse. There is no stability state for Russia. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:07:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:07:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:09:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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 In Makeevka, as a result of MLRS shelling, a local oil depot was hit. As a result of one of the flights, a fire broke out. Now they are stewing. https://t.me/ue50a4tjwcoyYTYy/95625  As a result of the shelling of Makeyevka, several substations were cut off. 15 boiler houses and residents of the villages of Krupskaya, Gorky, Karl Marx and Pervomaisky are without electricity. According to preliminary data, there were no casualties. https://t.me/itsdonetsk/137052 https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/54106 |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:13:29 AM EDT
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Looks like Orban claiming he will allow Sweden to be admitted may be another ruse like the 87 times he said that before.
The dictator should be not allowed to vote while circumventing democratic institutions in his country to play King Toad. 
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:15:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGr82UCWAAAwccx?format=jpg&name=large In Makeevka, as a result of MLRS shelling, a local oil depot was hit. As a result of one of the flights, a fire broke out. Now they are stewing. https://t.me/ue50a4tjwcoyYTYy/95625 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGr_NUEXkAAhY-8?format=jpg&name=small As a result of the shelling of Makeyevka, several substations were cut off. 15 boiler houses and residents of the villages of Krupskaya, Gorky, Karl Marx and Pervomaisky are without electricity. According to preliminary data, there were no casualties. https://t.me/itsdonetsk/137052 They need to add “petroleum facility” to the daily score card. Becoming a regular item lately. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:21:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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 TG Source The intelligence group of the 12th special purpose brigade "Azov" of NSU carried out a raid in the rear of the enemy. The video shows unique footage of the elimination of the enemy in close combat. https://t.me/azov_media/5455 AZOV National Guard special purpose unit night raid to the enemy rear position. https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1759504613516951713 |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:21:39 AM EDT
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Wow, dude got a couple of shots off before getting boomed. These FPV are pretty big explosions for the small size of the drone.
NSFW fairly zoomed in observation video.
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:27:04 AM EDT
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Video interview
In one instance, a russian just met Ukrainians face to face. He was pushed with one hand while with the other hand, the Ukrainian soldier shot him. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:30:55 AM EDT
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Could be a big move in the right direction. IAE has been a good cash conduit for Russia. The sanctions aren’t perfect but they do degrade Russia’s economic bony significantly. Hopefully more OPEC countries follow suit.
Somewhat related
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:32:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:41:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:44:50 AM EDT
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Two more today???
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:48:15 AM EDT
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https://t.me/AFUStratCom/22675
⚔️ Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces: This morning, the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed two Russian planes that were attacking the positions of our troops with guided air bombs. One Su-34 fighter-bomber and one Su-35S fighter. Thanks for the work! @osirskiy @AFUStratCom StratCom of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in social networks👇 Facebook | Youtube | _ I nstagram X🇺🇦 | X 🇬🇧 | W hatsApp | Cast _  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:59:12 AM EDT
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Weird.
❗The head of the LPR, Pasechnik, received severe poisoning with phenolic compounds in December 2023, said the head of the RKhBZ troops, Kirillov. Pasechnik’s poisoning had not been reported before https://t.me/rezervsvo/47603 |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 6:01:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Two more today???
Yeah, I'm uneasy about how quick this was.
🤷♂️ 02/19/2024 Rybatskoe village, Mariupol district, Donetsk People's Republic, Russia. On the Su-34 - again and again - p#dezh. Regarding the Su-35, there is no good news. And again the question is open - who shot down... /by the way, the A-50 and Su-35 were also written off as Patriots. This is the case when some top leaders, in order to cover their own ass, are even ready to wave at the enemy. And the essence of the problem is the lack of normal communications among our air defense forces. https://t.me/romanov_92/44339 And again the question of connection is raised, and again in connection with a very bitter experience. Friendly fire is precisely a consequence of the lack of high-quality communication, although Sun Tzu wrote about the importance of communication a couple of thousand years ago. And a detailed description of our communications project, which has already been implemented and has proven itself in large departments, is gathering dust somewhere on the desk of some general in the Main Communications Directorate. This is what causes sadness most of all. Although for the cost of the Su-35 it would be possible to implement the project on the entire front and even do more, including creating reserves. https://t.me/Alekhin_Telega/9459 
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Posted: 2/19/2024 6:02:32 AM EDT
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Sounds like this might a different instance than the shooting a week ago. Gaining popularity at the Russian front??
this brigade suffered huge losses and this fighter didn’t agree with the orders of the commanders,” — ruzzian Z blogger Anastasia Kashevarova published this today. She deleted this post already. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 6:05:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Sounds like this might a different instance than the shooting a week ago. Gaining popularity at the Russian front?? this brigade suffered huge losses and this fighter didn’t agree with the orders of the commanders,” — ruzzian Z blogger Anastasia Kashevarova published this today. She deleted this post already. With the perception that officers who should get punished are getting rewarded, we'll see more. [break]
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Posted: 2/19/2024 6:13:38 AM EDT
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Azov soldiers:
Russian Soldiers thank their Serbian Brothers for all the support: Pro 2A video of Alexei Navalny: |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 6:17:12 AM EDT
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Source: https://t.me/vchkogpu/45919 🧵 Navalny murder cover up timeline on Feb 16, 2024: 14:17 - official time of Navalny's death according to the prison system (Baza/AP). 14:19 - just two minutes later the Federal Penitentiary Service announces Navalny's death "after a walk" on its website. 14:20 - RIA Novosti and ITAR-TASS state propaganda agencies release the news of Navalny taking a walk and suddenly dying. 14:23 - Russia's 112 Tg channel claims cause of death is a blood clot. 14:30 - Dmitry Peskov comments on Navalny's death, just 13 minutes after his official time of death. 05:26 (Feb 17) - Vladimir Osechkin publishes a leak that on Feb 16 evening, an "expert was given a verbal instruction to describe bruises and hematomas on Navalny's body as cadaveric stains." (i.e. - natural cause, not murder) 01:03 (Feb 18) - Novaya Gazetta posts a claim that "Bruises from seizures were found on Navalny’s body." As an "independent" and "anti-Putin" publication, appears to lay the groundwork for the Kremlin cover up that bruises and hematomas were of natural origin, not murder: "Such injuries, as those who saw them described, appear from seizures. The person convulses, they try to restrain him, and bruises appear. They also said that he also had a bruise on his chest. But one that appears in connection with indirect cardiac massage. That is, they still tried to resuscitate him, and he died, most likely, from cardiac arrest. But why the heart stopped, no one is saying anything yet." (Video of Navalny appearing at a court hearing one day before his murder)
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:04:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: 14:23 - Russia's 112 Tg channel claims cause of death is a blood clot. Caused by Pfizer Covid vaccinations.  
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:10:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:11:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Caused by Pfizer Covid vaccinations. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By Prime: 14:23 - Russia's 112 Tg channel claims cause of death is a blood clot. Caused by Pfizer Covid vaccinations. LOL He bought one o' them good western vaccines |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:22:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:26:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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 "Test it by taking possession of a still warm sword And having put on the armor, how much, what how much! Figure out who you are - a coward or the chosen one of fate And try the taste of real struggle And when a wounded friend collapses nearby And over the first loss you will howl, mourning And when you suddenly find yourself without skin Because they killed him - not you You will understand that you recognized, distinguished, found He took the grin: this is a grin of death! Lies and evil - look how rude their faces are! And always behind - crows and coffins If you haven't eaten a single piece of meat from a knife If you watched from above with folded arms And he did not enter into a fight with the scoundrel, with the executioner This means you had nothing to do with anything in life! If the path is cut by your father's sword You've wrapped salty tears around your mustache If in a hot battle you experienced what So, you read the right books as a child..." https://t.me/fighter_bomber/15752  Some clarifications regarding the downed Katsap planes, so: In the search and rescue operation, 3 helicopters that took off from Eisk airfield are involved. A quote from one of the helicopter pilots - "I found the pilot, face in the water", very encouraging 😁. https://t.me/eRadarrua/12724 Russian video 💥Russian downed plane in our Sea of Azov The occupiers are shocked. The settlement of Rybatske is closed to entry by the military commandant's office. https://t.me/newspn/82681 |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:38:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:08:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: It didn't help that we had an administration at the time (Obama) that wanted to get rid of all cluster munitions and MANPAD systems because those are icky. Not just Obama. Even going as far back as the mid 1990s, people were worried about MANPAD proliferation and what that meant -- 9/11 kicked that into high gear since a few guys with MANPADS near runways could easily match 9/11 in terms of deaths. So there's been a multidecade effort to hoover up MANPADS off the black/gray market globally and destroy them. While successful, it's meant that there's no vast quantity Iglas on the market that we can source for Ukraine. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:25:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: While I certainly appreciate your perspective and input, that’s an ugly thing to say. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mercersfinest4: Originally Posted By daemon734: Originally Posted By sywagon: Wait, I thought UA had no drones and RU had all the EW. How is this possible? This is why this thread is always so far off from reality. While I certainly appreciate your perspective and input, that’s an ugly thing to say. I don't get that post either. This thread shows that the war is a meat grinder with essentially stagnant lines. Hopefully Ukraine eventually can get what they need to throw the Orcs out, but we are a long ways from there. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:56:01 AM EDT
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If reports are to be believed, within the last two weeks or so, 6 x FLANKERS, or about 1% of all FLANKER production, has been lost over/near Ukraine. Meanwhile, the Special Military Operation to Decartelize Mexico is going splendidly. US forces have just liberated Chihuahua after losing over 300 AFVs and about 10,000 men there over the last nine months. In the air, we've lost six F-15Es in the last week. At sea, we just had an LPD-17 sunk by Mexican Suicide USVs. If we continue at this rate...by 2036, we'll have reached Mexico City. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:57:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2024 9:05:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Not being a mil guy it is surprising to see two years in to the full war and UA drones are still catching Russian bunching up in single file and huddled in a tight group at rest. I would have though after the first few months nobody would want to be closer that 15m to the nearest buddy. Scared/new guys bunch up because it is comforting to be in contact with your own guys in that situation. Same reason people will just bust off rounds when they aren't doing anything effective besides making themselves feel better. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 9:10:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: You've stumbled onto Putin's brilliant strategy to destroy NATO and conquer Europe as a Russian colony. 1 - Russia invades Ukraine, in violation of multiple treaties and international laws, committing numerous war crimes. 2 - Europe, horrified, sends boatloads of military equipment, ammo, & systems to Ukraine to fend off the barbarian horde. 3 - Russia, with superior inventory because they never scrapped a single tank, APC, or gun, uses brute force and mass to steadily wipe out all that equipment. 4 - Europe, having taken the end of the Cold War as a cue to cut defense industry to truly token levels, cannot replace even ammunition in any kind of short time horizon. 5 - Russia, having eliminated all their prisoners and undesirables in meat assaults in Ukraine, is able to send hundreds of 1960s era armor rolling across now-defenseless Europe. 6 - Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, now the savior of all European culture, history, and heritage is a magnanimous and beneficent dictator, basking in adulating praise from all western civilization for saving them from globohomo.   I fully expect this tangent being argued in GD. It is similar to the OEM "frog boil" strategy but in reverse but actually makes more sense. Hopefully all the Ukrainian lives are buying enough time for NATO to wake up. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 9:12:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.airandspaceforces.com/us-train-12-ukrainian-f-16-pilots/ US training program update But with the Arizona NG so distracted training all those Ukrainians, are we not vulnerable to attack from China? Or Paraguay? |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 9:12:53 AM EDT
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 Another Russian Su-34 and Su-35 Shot Down: Near Mariupol. Six Aircraft in Three Days! |
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