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Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:29:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:34:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:41:21 AM EDT
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abort
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:42:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#4]
Launch hold to clean the camera lens (wipe it dry).

Actually is probability of landing failure.
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:43:35 AM EDT
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scrubbed due to probability of landing failure
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:47:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
scrubbed due to probability of landing failure
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First time for this perhaps.  I wonder if it was because of the fog.
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:48:07 AM EDT
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a bit rough out there

Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:49:22 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:52:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJE:
I'm 2hrs away, so I hope they call it before 5pm if they aren't going to launch tonight
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Ditto
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:56:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
a bit rough out there

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FupPq9ZWAAIoKm_?format=jpg&name=medium
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That makes sense.   I came in after start-up.  It means that their weather GO comment earlier may have been bad as well as the Launch Director Go for Launch at T-40 seconds.
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 9:56:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople] [#11]
Mission:  Falcon Heavy, ViaSat 3 Americas

1) Background info: Source

"A SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket will launch the ViaSat 3 Americas broadband communications satellite. ViaSat 3 Americas is the first of at least three new-generation Boeing-built geostationary satellites for ViaSat. A small communications satellite named Arcturus will launch as a secondary payload for Astranis."

2) Launch window:    7:29 - 8:26 PM EDT  (30 April 2023).  

3) Launch site:   LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, Florida

4) Launch direction:   Easterly

5) Webcast viewing options:

a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 15 minutes before liftoff)

b.  YouTube:



6)  Observation comments:    Launch site sunset is at 7:56 PM.  Civil twilight at 8:21 PM.  Launch near the end of the launch window could result in jellyfish sightings.

7)  Launch preparations:

a.  Boats heading out.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.   21 April 2022.    Departure! Doug is heading back to sea to recover the fairing halves from the Falcon Heavy ViaSat-3 mission.   The ship departed previously but was later recalled back to Port Canaveral after the mission was delayed.


Gav Cornwell@SpaceOffshore.  25 April 2023.  SpaceX recovery ship Doug is almost 1700km downrange (and still going) from LC-39A to recover the fairing halves for the upcoming Falcon Heavy ViaSat-3 mission.  If successful, the recovered farings would hold the record for the furthest downrange distance.

b.  Satellites:  


The ViaSat 3 Americas satellite inside Boeing’s factory in El Segundo, California. Credit: Boeing


Render of the ViaSat-3 Americas satellite (Credit: ViaSat)


The Arcturus satellite during testing (Credit: Astranis Space Technologies)


Credit:  Space Inventor.  Info on this cubesat.


SpaceX’s payload fairing, containing the ViaSat 3 Americas satellite, moves from SpaceX’a payload processing facility to the Falcon Heavy hangar during the final phase of launch preparations. Credit: SpaceX

c.  Ready for launch:   See post by Chokey on page 113, post #48.  Copied here.


Credit:  SpaceX

d.  Navigation warning:


Raul@Raul74Cz.   Launch Hazard Areas for #FalconHeavy #ViaSat-3.1 mission from KSC LC-39A NET 26 Apr 23:29 UTC, altern. 27 Apr to 02 May according NOTAM/NOTMARs. Expendable flight for CC-B1068.1, NY-B1052.8, PY-B1053.3 boosters. Estimated fairing recovery ~1950km downrange.

8) First stage return/ocean recovery/disposal:    All three boosters will be expended (disposed of in the ocean).

9) Launch to deployment events/timeline:      

Hours:Minutes:Seconds after lift-off.  Times approximate.  

00:03:05  Side booster engine cutoff (BECO)
00:03:08  Side boosters separate
00:04:13  1st stage main engine cutoff (MECO)
00:04:17  1st and 2nd stages separate
00:04:23  2nd stage engine starts (SES-1)
00:04:51  Fairing deployment
00:08:06  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-1)
00:29:42  2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:31:46  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
04:22:19  2nd stage engine starts (SES-3)
04:23:14  2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-3)
04:32:15  ViaSat-3 Americas deploys
04:38:46  Gravity Space’s GS-1 deploys
04:45:17  Astranis's first MicroGEO satellite deploys

10)  Orbit destination:  Near-Geosynchronous Earth orbit
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 10:23:40 AM EDT
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Kind of ironic SpaceX lunching Viasat's latest sat since Starlink is going to put them out of business. The thought of Viasat going bankrupt makes me smile, I HATE them.
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 11:25:14 AM EDT
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Thunderbird fly by around 14 April 2023

Link Posted: 4/26/2023 11:34:54 AM EDT
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@AJE
Link Posted: 4/26/2023 11:41:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Thunderbird fly by around 14 April 2023

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We always get a free airshow when they come to town

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Link Posted: 4/26/2023 11:59:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/26/2023 2:46:55 PM EDT
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Tomorrow is just fine
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It should go tomorrow, much better chance than today, it's already getting noisy here.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:33:40 AM EDT
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Webcast is live.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:40:34 AM EDT
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It’s always so foggy at Vandenberg lol. It makes for good Pinot Noir grapes though!
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:41:30 AM EDT
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F9H launch is now 20% go for tonight.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:44:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jack_Rackham] [#21]
The fog doesn't stop Falcon 9.

And another happy landing.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:52:11 AM EDT
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I just never get tired of those landings.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:54:44 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:54:56 AM EDT
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Their 187th landing of an orbital class rocket.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:56:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJE:


@Dagger41 where can I see these probabilities?  The Mission Launch Execution Forecast still shows 50% but hasn't updated since last night.
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Originally Posted By AJE:
Originally Posted By Dagger41:
F9H launch is now 20% go for tonight.


@Dagger41 where can I see these probabilities?  The Mission Launch Execution Forecast still shows 50% but hasn't updated since last night.


under "Launch Support"
https://www.patrick.spaceforce.mil/About-Us/Weather/
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:57:00 AM EDT
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Looks like the rocket was a little gassy after its in-flight meal.

Link Posted: 4/27/2023 9:58:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


under "Launch Support"
https://www.patrick.spaceforce.mil/About-Us/Weather/
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It was just on Fox35 news (local)

We are in for the same crud today that we got yesterday.

Plus Patrick Space Force weather just updated the POV to 80%
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 10:18:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2023 10:20:01 AM EDT
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Why are they not planning on recovering the rockets for the Falcon Heavy launch?
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 10:23:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fox2008:
Why are they not planning on recovering the rockets for the Falcon Heavy launch?
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Probably because it’s a heavy payload going to a difficult to get to orbit. I admit that I don’t understand orbital dynamics as well as I should but the concept of geostationary orbit always gave me a headache.

It’s kinda funny the way things have turned out with FH. It’s at its most useful when they use up the rocket, even with expending the rocket it’s still cheaper than its contemporaries.

I should look up the price difference between a FH and Delta IV launch.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 10:54:19 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:
Probably because it’s a heavy payload going to a difficult to get to orbit. I admit that I don’t understand orbital dynamics as well as I should but the concept of geostationary orbit always gave me a headache.

It’s kinda funny the way things have turned out with FH. It’s at its most useful when they use up the rocket, even with expending the rocket it’s still cheaper than its contemporaries.

I should look up the price difference between a FH and Delta IV launch.
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Correct, they are going to a near-geosynchronous orbit, not a more common elliptical transfer orbit.  They need all the propellant to do that.  Look at the third set of second stage burns over four hours after launch.   That is the one that ideally will circularize the orbit and remove most of the inclination.  


After they launch it and element sets show up I will post some numbers to show what happened.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 10:56:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KonamiCode:
Looks like the rocket was a little gassy after its in-flight meal.

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Thanks for that.  I saw the flare up at landing but did not know why.   Notice the venting of a gas just above the landing legs.  It is directed downward and when it reaches the engine area is ignited.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 10:58:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:


Correct, they are going to a near-geosynchronous orbit, not a more common elliptical transfer orbit.  They need all the propellant to do that.  Look at the third set of second stage burns over four hours after launch.   That is the one that ideally will circularize the orbit and remove most of the inclination.  
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
Originally Posted By Hesperus:
Probably because it’s a heavy payload going to a difficult to get to orbit. I admit that I don’t understand orbital dynamics as well as I should but the concept of geostationary orbit always gave me a headache.

It’s kinda funny the way things have turned out with FH. It’s at its most useful when they use up the rocket, even with expending the rocket it’s still cheaper than its contemporaries.

I should look up the price difference between a FH and Delta IV launch.


Correct, they are going to a near-geosynchronous orbit, not a more common elliptical transfer orbit.  They need all the propellant to do that.  Look at the third set of second stage burns over four hours after launch.   That is the one that ideally will circularize the orbit and remove most of the inclination.  

Makes sense.....but still sucks we don't get to see 2 boosters landing at the same time.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 11:03:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:


Probably because it’s a heavy payload going to a difficult to get to orbit. I admit that I don’t understand orbital dynamics as well as I should but the concept of geostationary orbit always gave me a headache.

It’s kinda funny the way things have turned out with FH. It’s at its most useful when they use up the rocket, even with expending the rocket it’s still cheaper than its contemporaries.

I should look up the price difference between a FH and Delta IV launch.
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FH expendable shows $90-$150 million for 59,000 lbs to GTO.

Delta IV heavy is $440 million for 29,500 lbs to GTO.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 11:03:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fox2008:

Makes sense.....but still sucks we don't get to see 2 boosters landing at the same time.
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A very impressive sight, especially with the double double sonic booms.
Link Posted: 4/27/2023 11:21:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AJE:


As someone hoping to watch this one in person, I whole heatedly agree.
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The only thing that SpaceX hopes to recover is the payload fairings, which has become routine but this time it's a bit different. This mission will be the farthest out they have gone to fetch them.


Link Posted: 4/27/2023 2:23:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2023 6:36:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2023 6:37:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chokey] [#44]
tornado warning in the area right now

Link Posted: 4/27/2023 6:57:15 PM EDT
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we might see a tornado on NSF's stream

Link Posted: 4/27/2023 7:03:32 PM EDT
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scrubbed

Link Posted: 4/27/2023 7:30:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2023 8:21:40 PM EDT
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Reportedly there are some changes to something on SLC-39A to change between Falcon Heavy and CRS/Dragon missions.   It just reinforces the fact that 39A is a single point failure for ISS supply and manned flights.   I believe that SLC-40 is going to be modified to handle those missions.
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Does a strike like that require checking the rocket and payloads for damage?
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