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Posted: 6/4/2020 9:24:58 PM EDT
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I hope the weather is better.
The last 2 launches have not been very spectacular from a viewing standpoint, but that's being selfish on my end. This Cristobal system has wreaked havoc on the weather and it's been pissing rain for a week and supposed to continue for another week. Plus I want to go fishing. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2020 9:32:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: I hope the weather is better. The last 2 launches have not been very spectacular from a viewing standpoint, but that's being selfish on my end. This Cristobal system has wreaked havoc on the weather and it's been pissing rain for a week and supposed to continue for another week. Plus I want to go fishing. You will have lots of opportunities... SpaceX's manifest is getting very full: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43418.0 Would not be surprised for 40-50 launches next year. Also ~8 or so ULA launches per year this year and next likely too |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 8:32:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Neotopiaman: You will have lots of opportunities... SpaceX's manifest is getting very full: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43418.0 Would not be surprised for 40-50 launches next year. Also ~8 or so ULA launches per year this year and next likely too I hope they don't start getting relaxed in QC trying to meet that schedule |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 9:27:12 AM EDT
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*knock**knock*
is this the correct SpaceX thread? the fairings were not caught but they were retrieved. a good one and a broken one  
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Posted: 6/5/2020 10:16:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: *knock**knock* is this the correct SpaceX thread? the fairings were not caught but they were retrieved. a good one and a broken one https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZwBCVgXYAEPiVr?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZwBEEgWkAEUaQA?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2020 8:24:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: *knock**knock* is this the correct SpaceX thread? Yes and your pictures are an important part. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 9:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: I wonder what SpaceX's "United Rental" bill is per year They probably just bought them but have been too busy either launching people, satellites, or cars into orbit, or blowing up shit to bother with taking the stickers off. 
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NH, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2020 10:02:46 PM EDT
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Another Starlink launch planned for 6/24 after the one on 6/12. GPS launch on 6/30 too.
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Posted: 6/7/2020 7:28:52 PM EDT
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she's a dirty girl after her 5th flight
 
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Posted: 6/7/2020 7:32:51 PM EDT
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Does the octograbber get bolted/welded to the deck? Or is it heavy enough to hold the rocket in place? I imagine they still must have to attach it down?
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Posted: 6/7/2020 7:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By theskuh: Does the octograbber get bolted/welded to the deck? Or is it heavy enough to hold the rocket in place? I imagine they still must have to attach it down? The combination of the robot’s weight, low center of gravity, increased traction provided by the treads and large contact area (compared to the small contact area between the deck and Falcon’s landing legs) results in a sufficiently secure fit https://www.elonx.net/octagrabber/ |
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Posted: 6/7/2020 8:42:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Plumber576]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: she's a dirty girl after her 5th flight https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ8eMtAXkAElfiZ?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ8ibEdXQAAzam5?format=jpg&name=orig Beautiful. They're starting to remind me of the dirty cars that win races like Le Mans and Daytona. You imagine a clean shiny race car then you go to a museum and see they left the winning car just as dirty as it finished and understand that dirt was earned. That's what this Falcon 9 reminds me of. |
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Posted: 6/8/2020 10:36:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: she's a dirty girl after her 5th flight https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ8eMtAXkAElfiZ?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ8ibEdXQAAzam5?format=jpg&name=orig That booster should go to Huntsville space center and the capsule to the Smithsonian. |
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Posted: 6/8/2020 7:56:05 PM EDT
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flipped in about 24hrs
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Posted: 6/8/2020 8:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel: That booster should go to Huntsville space center and the capsule to the Smithsonian. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel: Originally Posted By Chokey: she's a dirty girl after her 5th flight https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ8eMtAXkAElfiZ?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ8ibEdXQAAzam5?format=jpg&name=orig That booster should go to Huntsville space center and the capsule to the Smithsonian. That booster is from the starlink launch, not crew dragon. |
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Posted: 6/8/2020 8:32:39 PM EDT
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Plus, there's no reason to stick a 45 million dollar rocket booster in a museum when it can fly several more times.
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Posted: 6/9/2020 1:07:00 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2020 5:31:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2020 6:34:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI didn't watch that on repeat for 3 minutes or anything 
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Posted: 6/9/2020 7:53:25 PM EDT
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Yep.
That was BEAUTIFUL! Thanks For Posting. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2020 10:48:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plumber576: I didn't watch that on repeat for 3 minutes or anything It took several viewings to understand everything that I was seeing. The payload looks a long way down but that may because of the fish eye effect. |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 11:02:26 PM EDT
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2020 11:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryGive us the entire video to water impact. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 3:17:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWatch at 25% speed. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 10:14:55 PM EDT
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Rocket Lab is launching an Electron today. Thread here.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2020 12:05:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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1) Background info:
"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket is expected to launch the ninth batch of 58 satellites for SpaceX’s Starlink broadband network, a mission designated Starlink 8. Three SkySat Earth-imaging satellites for Planet will launch as rideshare payloads on this mission. " 2) Launch window: 5:21 AM EDT 3) Launch Site: SLC-40, KSC, Florida 4) Webcast/TV viewing options: a. SpaceX webcast (Starts about 10 minutes before liftoff) b. YouTube:  Starlink Mission 5) Launch preparations: a. Multiple Starlink satellites and the three ride share satellites on top are posted by several below. b. Ready to go  6) First stage return/disposal: Drone ship recovery by OCISLY (Just Read the Instructions is en-route to the landing zone for the Starlink mission. 7) Payload fairing recovery: Ms. Tree and Ms Chief will attempt to recover both halves. 8) Mission press kit: Replaced with online format 9) Launch to deployment events/timeline: Minutes:Seconds after lift-off 2:32 First stage MECO (main engine cutoff) 2:43 Second stage starts 3:11 Fairing jettison 7:03 1st stage entry burn ends 8:42 1st stage landing 8:53 Second stage engine cutoff 12:34 Skysat 18 deployment 13:04 Skysat 17 deployment 13:34 Skysat 16 deployment 26:00 Starlink deployment |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 1:41:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2020 1:43:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/11/2020 1:48:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pcsutton]
[#29]
How many more of the Starlink launches are pending?
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Posted: 6/11/2020 2:35:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pcsutton: How many more of the Starlink launches are pending? Couple hundred Final constellation is around 12,000 satellites. F9 is launching 60 at a time, Starship is supposed to do 300-400 at a time. Life span of around 5 years on the satellites, so a full constellation replacement every 5 years. There's going to be a lot of launches to build and maintain Starlink   .
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NH, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2020 2:49:44 PM EDT
[#31]
 Next Starlink launch sporting a few stowaways 
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NH, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2020 2:51:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Neotopiaman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pcsutton: How many more of the Starlink launches are pending? Expect about 2 per month from here on, until Starship takes over. Rough upcoming schedule (red are ULA launches): |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2020 2:59:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Couple hundred Final constellation is around 12,000 satellites. F9 is launching 60 at a time, Starship is supposed to do 300-400 at a time. Life span of around 5 years on the satellites, so a full constellation replacement every 5 years. There's going to be a lot of launches to build and maintain Starlink .I have a feeling that once Starship is flying, the satellites will get larger and more capable as well. Currently, they are ~260kg with 20gbps of capacity, would not be surprised for that to be 1000kg+ and 100gbps+. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 3:43:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Orion_Shall_Rise]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Neotopiaman: I have a feeling that once Starship is flying, the satellites will get larger and more capable as well. Currently, they are ~260kg with 20gbps of capacity, would not be surprised for that to be 1000kg+ and 100gbps+. Maybe but they want alot for low latency and coverage. The do not nessecarily need more capacity at any one point. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 4:02:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Maybe but they want alot for low latency and coverage. The do not nessecarily need more capacity at any one point. They do if they want to go after providing Internet to a lot of people in urban areas. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 4:06:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: They do if they want to go after providing Internet to a lot of people in urban areas. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Maybe but they want alot for low latency and coverage. The do not nessecarily need more capacity at any one point. They do if they want to go after providing Internet to a lot of people in urban areas. Starlink’s mission statement has nothing to do with competing with terrestrial fiber where it is available. It’s explicitly designed to provide backhaul where no copper/fiber is available. Trying to compete on cost or capability against fiber with satellite would be economic suicide. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 4:52:23 PM EDT
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Rural, and places like China and North Korea
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Posted: 6/12/2020 3:25:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE: Rural, and places like China and North Korea I wonder if Musk will capitulate to the Chinese over internet censorship of their citizens like Google. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 5:19:01 AM EDT
[#39]
 For the launch |
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USA
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Posted: 6/13/2020 5:45:18 AM EDT
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They've gotten this mess down to an art form and really make it look easy.
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Posted: 6/13/2020 6:19:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chairborne: Starlink's mission statement has nothing to do with competing with terrestrial fiber where it is available. It's explicitly designed to provide backhaul where no copper/fiber is available. Trying to compete on cost or capability against fiber with satellite would be economic suicide. Agreed. I still expect to see the satellite mass and capability grow once they are launching on Starship. Starlink sat design will have to be somewhat driven by launching on F9. Once they have a more capable launcher they have the ability to design the sats around that. May make economic sense for fewer more capable satellites in order to reduce ongoing replacement costs. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 6:26:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Agreed. I still expect to see the satellite mass and capability grow once they are launching on Starship. Starlink sat design will have to be somewhat driven by launching on F9. Once they have a more capable launcher they have the ability to design the sats around that. May make economic sense for fewer more capable satellites in order to reduce ongoing replacement costs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By Chairborne: Starlink's mission statement has nothing to do with competing with terrestrial fiber where it is available. It's explicitly designed to provide backhaul where no copper/fiber is available. Trying to compete on cost or capability against fiber with satellite would be economic suicide. Agreed. I still expect to see the satellite mass and capability grow once they are launching on Starship. Starlink sat design will have to be somewhat driven by launching on F9. Once they have a more capable launcher they have the ability to design the sats around that. May make economic sense for fewer more capable satellites in order to reduce ongoing replacement costs. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 6:54:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somaliskinnypirate: If it provides a few hundred mbps and under 150/month, I'll get it just to starve Comcrap. Im in the same boat but current satellite or a WISP is my only option. Limited to around 10 Mbps now. I'll happily pay $100-150/mo and a few thousand in install costs. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 7:01:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BuckMKII]
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2020 8:13:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckMKII: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/252363/IMG_20200613_052638_jpg-1459684.JPG Photo of this mornings SpaceX launch I took at 5:26 as it traveled across SE Ga. Thanks Buck, looks like it did enter sunlight during the first stage ascent after all. I noticed sunlight on the first stage grid fins after MECO on the webcast. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 8:41:57 AM EDT
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video in link
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Posted: 6/13/2020 8:42:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Agreed. I still expect to see the satellite mass and capability grow once they are launching on Starship. Starlink sat design will have to be somewhat driven by launching on F9. Once they have a more capable launcher they have the ability to design the sats around that. May make economic sense for fewer more capable satellites in order to reduce ongoing replacement costs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By Chairborne: Starlink's mission statement has nothing to do with competing with terrestrial fiber where it is available. It's explicitly designed to provide backhaul where no copper/fiber is available. Trying to compete on cost or capability against fiber with satellite would be economic suicide. Agreed. I still expect to see the satellite mass and capability grow once they are launching on Starship. Starlink sat design will have to be somewhat driven by launching on F9. Once they have a more capable launcher they have the ability to design the sats around that. May make economic sense for fewer more capable satellites in order to reduce ongoing replacement costs. https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/satellite-internet-update-starlink-is-exciting-but-reality-check-needed-for-rvers-and-cruisers/ This is an awesome article that lays out what starlink is and is not. Cross posted from @IWC71 in the rural internet thread. |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 8:54:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chairborne: https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/satellite-internet-update-starlink-is-exciting-but-reality-check-needed-for-rvers-and-cruisers/ This is an awesome article that lays out what starlink is and is not. Cross posted from @IWC71 in the rural internet thread. Thanks! Great article. They now have a sign up for possible testing opportunities in the future based on zip code. https://www.starlink.com/ |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2020 8:05:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#49]
Check this video
 Time lapse: Falcon 9 launches SpaceX’s ninth Starlink mission John Kraus video.  SpaceX's predawn launch of its Falcon 9 rocket carrying the Starlink and Planet SkySat satellites created a dazzling spectacle in the predawn sky after lifting off from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on June 13, 2020. (Image credit: Amy Thompson) |
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Posted: 6/13/2020 8:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckMKII: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/252363/IMG_20200613_052638_jpg-1459684.JPG Photo of this mornings SpaceX launch I took at 5:26 as it traveled across SE Ga. That's a gorgeous shot. Very noice. |
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