Only a couple and all the heavy firepower like 50 Caliber Machine Guns, M240's, etc. have vanished from the earth.

Well done.

I cracked up when Negan included the pool table

"Yeah, that's right, I want [leans back] ALL your weapons.  

Right now.  Bring 'em out, stack 'em up.  

And all the Snuggies.  

If I find [leans further back] ANY Snuggie not turned in, some one will be having a [leans even further back] VERY BAD DAY."  [falls over]

you got to be kidding the way the show  betray it it looks to be 5 to 10 years after

I was thinking there must be at least 1 Humvee around DC with a 7.62 Minigun mounted up top that would work great to even things up.  Too easy I guess.

how about every car over the year 2000 is gone every one drives  a car from the 80s or a camper from the 70s lol

Even though they walked right past a bunch of military vehicles at the CDC. 

that finale was the biggest steaming pile of shit.  the entire season was garbage.

Negan got out of the truck.

He split from the whole fuckin' plan

Right? Newgene disabled Abe's 5 ton with a short burst. Alexandrians open up with everything and no damage

And when the IED failed Rick just folded up. Oh, well, it's not like they're all sitting in soft trucks in a kill zone facing a fortified position with a zillion full auto rifles and all the ammo we can carry...

I missed how the E's regiment got inside the walls.

They paid homage to Escape from New York and The A Team!

I won't disagree it was clunky, but hell, every tactical event scripted since Rick first woke up from his coma has been clunky and overly convenient.

Besides, it's not like they've ever portrayed Rick as some sort of master tactician.  If the main character isn't, the antagonists sure as shit won't be, either.

Its not so much an issue of tactics, but one of audience manipulation. The show has had previous armed conflicts that lacked any sense of tactics but were both exciting and deadly, keeping the audience on the edge of their seats. The final assault on the prison in season 4 is an excellent example... you have a mexican standoff that ends in a huge gun fight. And not only was it a standoff taking place at hundred plus yards, but tons of people died and were wounded in that battle. To use the liberal terminology de jure it "felt" like a weighty battle that had consequence.

The skirmish last night was like a phantom dump... lots of stomach clutching as they slowly limped to the bathroom only to result in a bunch of noise and fury with nothing of any consequence coming out. All said they must have dumped ten thousand rounds in all directions in close quarters with children's cartoon casualties. And that is ignoring the actual functional "how did it happen"  questions others have already brought up, like how did the Kingdom and Hilltop know each other, and how did they get into Alexandria anyway without anyone noticing... and how in any fantasy world does a 600 pound tiger move completely unseen through a crowd of people.

Suffice it to say the show has been sliding down hill since season 5. It is taking a lot of my patience to keep watching, and I may transition from "fan with serious reservations" to outright "hostile witness" next season. I hate to think this way but right now I'm polishing my baseball bat, dreaming of bashing Fear the Walking Dead's skull in in two months. I'm going to hate watch that show so hard I'm going to need to build two robot companions to aid me in my violent snarkbashing of it.

After they finish up the Negan saga. The writers really need to consider time jumping this series and do a different timeline from the comics.  They can do like Disney did with Star Wars and dump the EU and take bits and pieces

Wouldn't hurt my feelings if they killed either Rick, Daryl or Carol. I would even consider Maggie.
If they want to use the comics as a guide Carl could do the Rick stuff.
Why the merry band of fools continue to follow Rick is beyond reason. If he was a dictator type I could see why people would fall in line but he's not.

So Jadis the trash queen wanted to lay with Rick?

I've read every word of last night's posts, and I still have no idea what actually happened.

Lots of "Oooo dat!," "Him bad!" "Coral dis, Annie Lennox dat," "Tiger kicks it yo!"

Oh yeah, Sasha's dead.

I read somewhere that they would introduce the whisperers after this Negan mess....

Yeah figured as much. Right now the only character I like is Gene. Have no clue how he'll end up.
Be fun to see him take over Negan group. They do battle and he tells rick and his group to beat it and not come back.

He travelled to the sanctuary to drink tequila and talk to that Negan guy.
Maggie and Jesus mention he left and last episode he was making plans to do so.

She lives in a trash heap and rides around in a garbage truck as her primary mode of transporation.

You know she'd toss 2 year post-apocalyptic salad..

I was rooting for the tiger to deal with all of them............And, no wonder they didn't wipe many of Negan's people out............someone should check the gunshops for some Magpul BUIS or some guns with sights

Not to mention all of the soldiers body armor, wizard eyes and nobody has figured out how to carry spare magazines or do a reload. They scavenge everything else but no gear. There's not even ONE gear queer.

Not sure if this was already asked/answered:

How did the tiger know who was good and who was bad???

omggggggggggggggggg im dead

Because!  That's why.  

Probably the same reason 10,000 rounds were fired and no one got hit. Except the red shirts.

omfg.  

in hindsight, she was really saying "you're about to get fucked over"

June 4.

Kingdom & Hilltop know each other via Jesus.

Alexandria has a back gate.
They didn't show it on TV, but it was in that 360* online viewer that they released.
They probably should have showed it on TV...

Jesus prefers the back door

Well that was absolutely terrible. Much worse than I expected it to be.

It was actually embarrassing to watch, and I detect hints of embarrassment from Carol and Morgan at being in this ridiculous story arc. Their performances were way off, phoned in, and I have a feeling they're thinking "how do I get off this train wreck before it gets any worse?".

Some of the stars of the show are going to start requesting their character get killed off by end of next season. Melissa McBride genuinely looks embarrassed in every scene with king retard and faketiger.

And how terrible was Andrew Lincoln re-acting the season 6 cliffhanger baseball bat scene all over again?

They are completely out of (good) ideas.

This

Nice Tea Cup grip

Whew, this season is over and so am I. Its like watchin days of our lives.

lol, never liked any of those parts anyways.  

@JoshAshton
@USPcompact

I might have to buy spare batteries for my laser pointer at work, just in case.

And that is my greatest gripe with this season finale... all the stuff they should have shown. All they needed to do was have a random shot of some characters coming in a "back door" at Alexandria at some point during the past two seasons. They did that for Hilltop with the woodpile exit, and that amounted to nothing. All the tiny establishing shots they could have put in that would have not only bolstered the weaker sections of the episode, but would have actually improved the tone and impact of several key scenes. Just one fast bit of dialog from an extra screaming HOLY SHIT IS THAT A TIGER would have added both humor as well as contextual establishment of the "tiger out of nowhere" entry.

Instead they burn more than half of the running time focusing on Sasha with repeat shots and drumbeat pathos that does nothing to improve the flow or the structure of the story they are telling.

This is amateurish "modern" storytelling that relies too heavily on suspension of disbelief and lack of attention. They hyperfocus on the melodramatic, emmy bait shit and ignore basic structural storytelling that makes for good episodic television. It is compounded when they then attempt "switcheroo" twists or "bait" style tropes that are so heavily chummed that even my cat knew what was going to happen a half hour before it happened. They failed to leave enough contextual breadcrumbs to explain their deus ex machnia and they paved a path made of nothing but bread for their emotional build... which ruined both.

It rustles my jimmies with loud report because a lot of this shit is "small ball" basic stuff, the stuff that should be a given... and it is like they are tossing their givens in editing to pad in more emmy bait.

In your estimation, what needs to happen?  Fresh blood in the writing/directing department?  

I agree, btw.  With all of it.

Im thoroughly bored with the show.  Not only bored with it, but now mocking it.  And Im not the only one.

And I usually don't get bored with shows.  In fact, I get pissed when they end.  But at this point, it would have been better just to end the show with all of them on their knees.   This season has been a complete disaster, imho.  

We're beyond the Fonz and Shark at this juncture.

Well, tactically what does Rick do now? Prepare to attack Negan head on or destroy the Junkyard Romulans for their betrayal?

Knowing Rick, he'll choose the incorrect select.

Something else I found as odd. Z-Sasha was found roaming the woods, I assume while Maggie was coming from Hilltop?

So, with all the noise, people running, etc... she wandered off, rather than hang around and try to bite people?

Even if that was meant as a post-attack scene, there was enough activity at Alexandra that she wouldn't have just wandered off. She'd have likely been neutralized in the melee, but either way she'd still be there.

The writers are not really the issue, as there are so many on the show at this point. The same goes for the individual episode directors. It is the only way they can make this much material as quickly as they do, they have multiple "teams" working on the episodes simultaneously. The "fault" if you can call it that falls on the big shoulders, the showrunners. The people who sit atop the creative pyramid and guide the teams. And the problem there is that TWD has like TEN fucking producers. The show lacks a single, unified creative source, and the problems the show has are indicative of design by a committee of committees.

In my long ago past days of TV development, this was the worst situation to walk into. Because you had the people who make the decisions arguing with each other over creative directions, you had them ignoring each other, you had them overruling each other and inserting or removing things the others wanted in or out. You wind up with a very schizophrenic production that tries too much, and leaves too much out. The greatest works of cinema and television are the singular vision of one big honcho... one person who drives the wagon train from start to stop, which results in a very even and uniform quality throughout. They may have to overcome limitations, but it is their vision that holds the project to the flame and keeps things on point.

If I would change something about TWD it would be to put all the various showrunners the show has in a cage and have them fight it out until only one remained. Then have Frank Darabont "surprise motherfuckers" out of the shadows and kill that person and pick the crown back up. Then have the show go back to shorter seasons produced with longer gestation so they can fine tune the story better and allow for a single man to hold the reigns of it all.

But that isn't going to happen, because TWD is a money making machine now. It is churned out like shitty sweat shop shoes so there is always a product on the shelf for the consumers. And very rarely can you go backwards... it is hard for something that has "sold out" to un-sell-out and return to any semblance of creative roots. If anything TWD is going to get more and more melodramatic and manipulative until people just stop watching... and I think many of us expect that to happen next season.

Yeah it's pretty bad when you can pretty much tell who is producing the episode because of the different "feel" to each one.

The battle scene was just stupid.  From the suppressor mounted scope, to everything being full auto, and shot full auto, to expecting a tiger to differentiate between good guys and bad guys.  You would think by now they would have obtained at least one person with enough firearms sense to put sights on the weapons and inject just a little realism into the shooting.

Somewhere in a universe much like ours, there is The Walking Dead, starring Tom Jane as Rick Grimes and Frank Darabont as the showrunner.  

This show is a flaming pile of shit.

Sweet Jesus just setup a fucking ambush at the goddamn gate!  If there was EVER a perfect kill zone, that is it, and Negan and his merry band of thugs waltz right into it every 2 weeks…like clock work.  Just set up the explosives, stand bac, hit the bomb, open fire, and mop them up, then take Negan's face and wear it like a fucking hipster stocking cap and tell them now that I AM NEGAN…SUCK MY DICK!  ROLL CREDITS