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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Only because they knew no democrat run court, almost all of them, would hear their cases. The judicial system has been taken over by the enemy's of the USA. Just look at the BS charges, lawfare, against President Trump. So they folded and you actually praise them for being weak? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:32:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52:  Do you take everything for face value? Do you believe everything the MSM tells you? Do you believe the system, run by the establishment Dems and RINO's, from top to bottom, with a tireless propaganda campaign, didn't have anything to do with that? Do you also believe COVID was a random happening from a wet market? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: Originally Posted By himarker: Trump has had nearly 4 years and $250 million in stop the steal money to test these thoughts in court, yet here we are. Do you take everything for face value? Do you believe everything the MSM tells you? Do you believe the system, run by the establishment Dems and RINO's, from top to bottom, with a tireless propaganda campaign, didn't have anything to do with that? Do you also believe COVID was a random happening from a wet market? So you really don't address what I wrote, gotcha. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 2:58:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StephenNW]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: Trump SUCKS, but the alternative is fucking TERRIBLE. Like the fact that Trump is the BEST President of my lifetime says a lot and the fact that people are still too dumb to see the obvious is amazing to me. Seeing the obvious? Here’s what’s obvious to me: Trump is a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a literal sociopath, a con artist (Trump University), a well-known fraudster (the Trump Foundation), a rapist, a perennial whiner and perma-victim, and a person for whom many of his own former high-level staff members - including his VP, Chief of Staff, National Security Advisor, et. al - won’t vote for him either. (BTW, that last bit is what’s known as “a clue”.) The funny thing is, if any Democrat running for president had that same embarrassing and shameful ‘resume’, people like you would be screaming bloody murder. You’d be using that fact as proof that the Democrats have finally gone off the deep end, have no functioning moral compass, and therefore have lost any right to be taken seriously. And in that circumstance…you’d be correct. Problem is, we’re not describing the Democrat candidate above. We’re describing Donald Trump. He’s very likely going to lose, and the entire GOP and everyone who has contributed to keeping Trump politically alive for the past eight years will 100% deserve the loss. To me those are the things that are “obvious”. But I understand, some people need to learn these things the hard way. And so they shall. ETA: I like the way you say Trump “SUCKS”, then in the next sentence claim he’s the “BEST” president in your lifetime. The cognitive dissonance of Trump’s supporters never ceases to amaze. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:02:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By StephenNW: It’s important to note that not all of Trump’s unsuccessful businesses went through bankruptcy. Bankruptcy: The Trump Taj Mahal The Trump Plaza The Trump Castle The Plaza Hotel (different from Trump Plaza) The Trump Hotel and Casino Resort Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc. Other failures: Trump Airlines Trump Vodka Trump Steaks Trump University Trump Mortgage GoTrump.com New Jersey Generals football team Trump: The Game Trump Magazine Trump Ice Tour de Trump Trump Network Trumped! Truth Social (just give it time) In fairness, Trump has made some smart and shrewd real estate deals over the years. Like 40 Wall Street. Although even then, there’s a whole bunch of “ugly” surrounding those deals. Like lenders getting stiffed (which is why most large U.S. banks will no longer do business with the Trump Organization), vendors not being paid (something that happened with alarming frequency), and all other manner of getting ahead by screwing other people. And funny enough, most of Trump’s wealth hasn’t even come from shrewd business deals, but rather from Trump simply licensing his name, likeness and image. In that light, while Trump likes to claim “I lost a lot of money by being POTUS”, nothing could be further from the truth. Being POTUS was (indirectly) where more than half of his current net worth came from. There have been many highly-detailed articles and papers written about Trump’s business history. In essence, he isn’t completely incompetent with business as some on the left want to believe, and he also isn't anything even close to the business genius his fans believe him to be. Finally, it’s worth reminding everyone that Trump didn’t start with $1M of loaned money as he claims. He inherited the equivalent of $413M (in 2018 dollars). If you take into account what he started with and look at what he has today, it’s not at all remarkable. His total ROIC (return on invested capital) is around 4% annually. Literally almost the same return you’d get by investing in very safe T-Bills, and far below the return he’d get by simply putting that money in a S&P 500 index fund. Is Trump wealthy? Absolutely. Is he a business genius? Not even close. https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExem5nZXQ4NjJtcWtucWlsM2JzdW00eGJkcHlscGY0bW5sZGc0a2g3bCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/w9t0aFMjahdxpKKvzN/giphy.webp Apparently it just ended. Because none of the people who incorrectly believe Trump is some kind of business genius bothered responding. Tsk tsk. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:26:33 PM EDT
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mean tweet? trump haters run to tell the teacher.
nice tweet? trump haters say he's lying. trump haters are also not hung up on any politician either, they could care less. trump haters have also posted multiple times a day about hating trump for years. TRUMP  Attached FileTRUMP  Hillary Supporter Screams as Trump takes oath TRUMP  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: mean tweet? trump haters run to tell the teacher. nice tweet? trump haters say he's lying. trump haters are also not hung up on any politician either, they could care less. trump haters have also posted multiple times a day about hating trump for years. TRUMP https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84273/1000000688_jpg-3304632.JPG TRUMP  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2qraZKD4hITRUMP /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/image-71.jpg Politician worship is so gay. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:35:22 PM EDT
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Damn. 97 pages.
I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:42:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: macros73]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. Just about any Republican would be a better candidate than Trump, and someone I would be inclined to support by default. If you don't understand the rationale for not supporting, or in cases like mine, actively opposing Trump at the polls, it's hard to think you're not willfully ignorant. Agreeing with it is separate from understanding it. We have two candidates that are likely to win. One tried to overthrow an election. One didn't. One candidate has spread lies for four years about a "stolen election", and has primed his worshippers to have have a conniption at best, and start a civil war at worst, if he loses again. One hasn't. That leaves one candidate that I can vote for, and one candidate I have to vote against if I honestly believe in our country, our Constitution, and rule of law. We're probably going to need to post a FAQ somewhere. 
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:42:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. You're in agreement with the VAST majority of us then. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:43:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. so glad to see another trump hater who totally, for real doesn't take all of their marching orders from the MSM. lol waycist and pedo too. way to outdo your peers.  i would love to vote for massie or rand paul after DJT and his crew clean out the clowns. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:44:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Just about any Republican would be a better candidate than Trump, and someone I would be inclined to support by default. If you don't understand the rationale for not supporting, or in cases like mine, actively opposing Trump at the polls, it's hard to think you're not willfully ignorant. Agreeing with it is separate from understanding it. We have two candidates that are likely to win. One tried to overthrow an election. One didn't. One candidate has spread lies for four years about a "stolen election", and has primed his worshippers to have have a conniption at best, and start a civil war at worst, if he loses again. One hasn't. That leaves one candidate that I can vote for, and one candidate I have to vote against if I honestly believe in our country, our Constitution, and rule of law. We're probably going to need to post a FAQ somewhere. https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZ3oxczdnemVyZXhlbXV4dWx4NHhvaWltdHY4bHB6ZncwdDRjdnc3biZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/FreWzu4xk2a6BXzMu3/giphy.webp Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. Just about any Republican would be a better candidate than Trump, and someone I would be inclined to support by default. If you don't understand the rationale for not supporting, or in cases like mine, actively opposing Trump at the polls, it's hard to think you're not willfully ignorant. Agreeing with it is separate from understanding it. We have two candidates that are likely to win. One tried to overthrow an election. One didn't. One candidate has spread lies for four years about a "stolen election", and has primed his worshippers to have have a conniption at best, and start a civil war at worst, if he loses again. One hasn't. That leaves one candidate that I can vote for, and one candidate I have to vote against if I honestly believe in our country, our Constitution, and rule of law. We're probably going to need to post a FAQ somewhere. https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZ3oxczdnemVyZXhlbXV4dWx4NHhvaWltdHY4bHB6ZncwdDRjdnc3biZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/FreWzu4xk2a6BXzMu3/giphy.webp It's rationalization - not rationale, so I understand it. Thanks for your reply. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:07:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. “Riddled with communist” |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:14:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Agree. You probably know that I supported Burgum and then DeSantis. We have a WWE hero-worship and battered spouse majority electorate on the Red Team. They'll share much of the blame if the Cackling Commie wins in November. The Blue Team electorate has unhinged fervor for their god government and its MSM missionaries. Here we are, and we can't do shit about any of it. Bummer. Yes, I'm aware of one FKH voter, and think there are 1 or 2 more. Regardless, there aren't many. Thanks for reading.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:14:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I intend to write in Thomas Massie. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:17:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquid77: I intend to write in Thomas Massie. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquid77: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I intend to write in Thomas Massie. I'm either voting L, writing-in one of my neighbors or writing-in Massie. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:58:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: macros73]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: It's rationalization - not rationale, so I understand it. Thanks for your reply. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. Just about any Republican would be a better candidate than Trump, and someone I would be inclined to support by default. If you don't understand the rationale for not supporting, or in cases like mine, actively opposing Trump at the polls, it's hard to think you're not willfully ignorant. Agreeing with it is separate from understanding it. We have two candidates that are likely to win. One tried to overthrow an election. One didn't. One candidate has spread lies for four years about a "stolen election", and has primed his worshippers to have have a conniption at best, and start a civil war at worst, if he loses again. One hasn't. That leaves one candidate that I can vote for, and one candidate I have to vote against if I honestly believe in our country, our Constitution, and rule of law. We're probably going to need to post a FAQ somewhere. https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZ3oxczdnemVyZXhlbXV4dWx4NHhvaWltdHY4bHB6ZncwdDRjdnc3biZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/FreWzu4xk2a6BXzMu3/giphy.webp It's rationalization - not rationale, so I understand it. Thanks for your reply. I'm happy to have a fresh argument. My use of the word "rationale" is correct in this context, unless that was an intentional slight on your part. In that case, well done sir. You can substitute the phrase "underlying reason" in place of "rationale" if you like. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:05:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquid77: I intend to write in Thomas Massie. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquid77: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I intend to write in Thomas Massie. My plan also. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:11:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stug3: https://preview.redd.it/do-you-know-a-christian-friend-family-member-etc-in-the-v0-pav3c38nvald1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0fe58ddda04f35bb5864cf54810d8edc20f64440 https://preview.redd.it/do-you-know-a-christian-friend-family-member-etc-in-the-v0-ta2dw38nvald1.jpg?width=1350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=794260268e702ce6b8ad157f2a494465fae01ffa Awesome points! |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:19:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: My plan also. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Liquid77: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I intend to write in Thomas Massie. My plan also. lol  https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1828889709738615105 |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:22:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BerettaGuy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David45: lol https://i.imgur.com/ct3tTlX.jpeg https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1828889709738615105 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David45: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By Liquid77: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I intend to write in Thomas Massie. My plan also. lol https://i.imgur.com/ct3tTlX.jpeg https://x.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1828889709738615105 I don’t agree with Massie on some of his foreign policy or on Snowden just as I don’t agree with Ron Paul on most of his foreign policy yet I’ve supported him since the late 1980s. Massie is a real 2A supporter and a real gun owner (including machine guns) - not like bullshit artist NYC liberal Trump who proved during his 4 long years that he doesn’t know anything about the 2A and just uses it to con gullible conservatives into voting for him. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:27:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel:  WATCH: Former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger speaks at 2024 Democratic National Convention |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMI believe Trump’s actions following the 2020 election should have resulted in him going to prison. He is entirely unqualified to hold office. And yet, I simply cannot fathom Harris in the WH. It’s two awful choices, and I hate it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:33:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Originally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMHave you lost your f#cking mind using this POS Kinzinger as an example??? Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger says he's 'open' to AR-15 ban Kinzinger: Gun owners should help dismantle the Second Amendment Republicans Speak Out in Favor of AR-15 Ban: 'Certainly Open to That' |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Have you lost your f#cking mind using this POS Kinzinger as an example??? Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger says he's 'open' to AR-15 ban Kinzinger: Gun owners should help dismantle the Second Amendment Republicans Speak Out in Favor of AR-15 Ban: 'Certainly Open to That' Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By StephenNW: Originally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Make it two. I'll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There's only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don't, well the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger's speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMHave you lost your f#cking mind using this POS Kinzinger as an example??? Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger says he's 'open' to AR-15 ban Kinzinger: Gun owners should help dismantle the Second Amendment Republicans Speak Out in Favor of AR-15 Ban: 'Certainly Open to That' Yup, fuck Kinzinger and fuck Harris. The GOP is fucked up. The answer is not pushing 3 lifelong democrats. The answer is also not actually voting for people currently running as democrats. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:57:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Originally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMMTGA:  I had similar thoughts, that maybe getting getting punched hard in the nose at the polls would wake up the Republican Party. I'm not so hopeful these days. Trump has done an excellent job of Jim Jonesing his supporters. They're more likely to shoot someone over irrational "stolen election fight or you won't have a country anymore" rhetoric than accept another loss. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 5:59:02 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Seeing the obvious? Here’s what’s obvious to me: Trump is a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a literal sociopath, a con artist (Trump University), a well-known fraudster (the Trump Foundation), a rapist, a perennial whiner and perma-victim, and a person for whom many of his own former high-level staff members - including his VP, Chief of Staff, National Security Advisor, et. al - won’t vote for him either. (BTW, that last bit is what’s known as “a clue”.) The funny thing is, if any Democrat running for president had that same embarrassing and shameful ‘resume’, people like you would be screaming bloody murder. You’d be using that fact as proof that the Democrats have finally gone off the deep end, have no functioning moral compass, and therefore have lost any right to be taken seriously. And in that circumstance…you’d be correct. Problem is, we’re not describing the Democrat candidate above. We’re describing Donald Trump. He’s very likely going to lose, and the entire GOP and everyone who has contributed to keeping Trump politically alive for the past eight years will 100% deserve the loss. To me those are the things that are “obvious”. But I understand, some people need to learn these things the hard way. And so they shall. ETA: I like the way you say Trump “SUCKS”, then in the next sentence claim he’s the “BEST” president in your lifetime. The cognitive dissonance of Trump’s supporters never ceases to amaze. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Originally Posted By TW52: Trump SUCKS, but the alternative is fucking TERRIBLE. Like the fact that Trump is the BEST President of my lifetime says a lot and the fact that people are still too dumb to see the obvious is amazing to me. Seeing the obvious? Here’s what’s obvious to me: Trump is a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a literal sociopath, a con artist (Trump University), a well-known fraudster (the Trump Foundation), a rapist, a perennial whiner and perma-victim, and a person for whom many of his own former high-level staff members - including his VP, Chief of Staff, National Security Advisor, et. al - won’t vote for him either. (BTW, that last bit is what’s known as “a clue”.) The funny thing is, if any Democrat running for president had that same embarrassing and shameful ‘resume’, people like you would be screaming bloody murder. You’d be using that fact as proof that the Democrats have finally gone off the deep end, have no functioning moral compass, and therefore have lost any right to be taken seriously. And in that circumstance…you’d be correct. Problem is, we’re not describing the Democrat candidate above. We’re describing Donald Trump. He’s very likely going to lose, and the entire GOP and everyone who has contributed to keeping Trump politically alive for the past eight years will 100% deserve the loss. To me those are the things that are “obvious”. But I understand, some people need to learn these things the hard way. And so they shall. ETA: I like the way you say Trump “SUCKS”, then in the next sentence claim he’s the “BEST” president in your lifetime. The cognitive dissonance of Trump’s supporters never ceases to amaze. Rent free. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:04:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By StephenNW: Originally Posted By TW52: Trump SUCKS, but the alternative is fucking TERRIBLE. Like the fact that Trump is the BEST President of my lifetime says a lot and the fact that people are still too dumb to see the obvious is amazing to me. Seeing the obvious? Here’s what’s obvious to me: Trump is a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a literal sociopath, a con artist (Trump University), a well-known fraudster (the Trump Foundation), a rapist, a perennial whiner and perma-victim, and a person for whom many of his own former high-level staff members - including his VP, Chief of Staff, National Security Advisor, et. al - won’t vote for him either. (BTW, that last bit is what’s known as “a clue”.) The funny thing is, if any Democrat running for president had that same embarrassing and shameful ‘resume’, people like you would be screaming bloody murder. You’d be using that fact as proof that the Democrats have finally gone off the deep end, have no functioning moral compass, and therefore have lost any right to be taken seriously. And in that circumstance…you’d be correct. Problem is, we’re not describing the Democrat candidate above. We’re describing Donald Trump. He’s very likely going to lose, and the entire GOP and everyone who has contributed to keeping Trump politically alive for the past eight years will 100% deserve the loss. To me those are the things that are “obvious”. But I understand, some people need to learn these things the hard way. And so they shall. ETA: I like the way you say Trump “SUCKS”, then in the next sentence claim he’s the “BEST” president in your lifetime. The cognitive dissonance of Trump’s supporters never ceases to amaze. Fixed it for you. No charge. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:06:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Originally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I don’t understand allegedly liberty supporting people here who supported trump at anytime between 2020 and 2023. But here we are. Anyway, there is only 1 poster in this entire thread voting for Harris. Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMYou do you, but you live in a solidly blue state, so why vote for FKH? She's also not deserving of your vote if you're a fan of freedom. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:25:50 PM EDT
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[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Make it two. I'll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There's only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don't, well the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger's speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMSo do you support being 21 to own a AR?  Rep. Adam Kinzinger: I Think The Age For Buying A Gun Should Be 21 He says the same shit people hate Trump for, you like gun banning democrats?  Congressman Adam Kinzinger, An AR-15 Owner, Supports Moving Age To 21 | Morning Joe | MSNBC |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:30:01 PM EDT
[#32]
Kamala Harris supports mandatory buybacks. I doubt she would stand against court packing to make that a reality either.
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:32:58 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: He was a fucking Rhino and believes you need to be 21 to own a gun. He is saying the same shit you guys hate Trump for. So do you support being 21 to own a AR? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qctZVvjN2McRepublicans like Kinzinger are a large part in why IL went from blue to BLUE BLUE. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:37:52 PM EDT
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[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dumak: Republicans like Kinzinger are a large part in why IL went from blue to BLUE BLUE. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:38:45 PM EDT
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Anyone thinking the Republicans will go back to the party of Bush and Mittens is deluded. Trump realized that and capitalized on the fact that so many of the Republican voters were sick and tired of that party and their inability to conserve much of anything. I was hoping for DeSantis but figured that couldn't happen.
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: MTGA: https://media1.tenor.com/m/mg0QH3Ui9-gAAAAd/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-now-there-are-two.gif I had similar thoughts, that maybe getting getting punched hard in the nose at the polls would wake up the Republican Party. I'm not so hopeful these days. Trump has done an excellent job of Jim Jonesing his supporters. They're more likely to shoot someone over irrational "stolen election fight or you won't have a country anymore" rhetoric than accept another loss. Congressman Adam Kinzinger, An AR-15 Owner, Supports Moving Age To 21 | Morning Joe | MSNBC  |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:54:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Wake up like this guy was? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ut23hYc5xY/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Fat_baby_laughs-777.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Originally Posted By macros73: MTGA: https://media1.tenor.com/m/mg0QH3Ui9-gAAAAd/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-now-there-are-two.gif I had similar thoughts, that maybe getting getting punched hard in the nose at the polls would wake up the Republican Party. I'm not so hopeful these days. Trump has done an excellent job of Jim Jonesing his supporters. They're more likely to shoot someone over irrational "stolen election fight or you won't have a country anymore" rhetoric than accept another loss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ut23hYc5xY/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Fat_baby_laughs-777.gif I admire your willingness to let your love of strawmen fly freely. 
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:07:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: page 96 is brought to you by: the delusion There. All fixed. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:10:26 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: so glad to see another trump hater who totally, for real doesn't take all of their marching orders from the MSM. lol waycist and pedo too. way to outdo your peers. i would love to vote for massie or rand paul after DJT and his crew clean out the clowns. You don’t need marching orders from the MSM when Trump himself is willing to tell you why you shouldn’t vote for him if you support the Constitution and value individual liberty. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:14:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: I believe Trump’s actions following the 2020 election should have resulted in him going to prison. He is entirely unqualified to hold office. And yet, I simply cannot fathom Harris in the WH. It’s two awful choices, and I hate it. If you want to contemplate options, Chase Oliver (L) also used to be a registered democrat, so voting for him is like voting for Trump, except without the AWB and with legal pot. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:18:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Have you lost your f#cking mind using this POS Kinzinger as an example??? Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger says he's 'open' to AR-15 ban Kinzinger: Gun owners should help dismantle the Second Amendment Republicans Speak Out in Favor of AR-15 Ban: 'Certainly Open to That' You forget yourself. In Trumplandia, AWB is just more MAGA, and there’s always leverguns.com. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:20:48 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquid77: I intend to write in Thomas Massie. I intend to write in Nicki Haley |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:31:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Network_Daddy: Kamala Harris supports mandatory buybacks. I doubt she would stand against court packing to make that a reality either. I can see not voting for Trump, but voting for a woman who openly expresses various Marxist views is too far for me. Of course you aren't voting for her, you are voting for her handlers. Agreed. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:46:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Wake up like this guy was? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ut23hYc5xY/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Fat_baby_laughs-777.gif Making to be 21 to buy an AR or long gun? Florida's GOP did that and Trump said it was very good gun control. I take it you guys support that guy's case for raising the age to 21 as well? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:04:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I intend to write in Nicki Haley Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Liquid77: I intend to write in Thomas Massie. I intend to write in Nicki Haley Barf, but I'm not surprised, Ukebro.  Never Neocon Interventionist Nikki. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:09:47 PM EDT
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[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquid77: I intend to write in Thomas Massie. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liquid77: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Damn. 97 pages. I understand not voting for the Orange Populist Clown. I'm not because I don't live in a swing state. I don't understand allegedly liberty supporting people here claiming to take the moral high ground by previously stating they were voting for the corrupt racist anti-liberty pedo (CRAP) who actually did grab her (Tara Reade) by the P word (without consent), and now are planning to vote for the cackling authoritarian Marxist (I'm getting repetitive). I suspect that these people wouldn't vote for Thomas Massie or a reincarnated Calvin Coolidge if either of them were on the ballot. I intend to write in Thomas Massie. Same. Just like I did in 2020. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:14:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: I intend to write in Nicki Haley Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Liquid77: I intend to write in Thomas Massie. I intend to write in Nicki Haley 
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:32:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: All I'm hearing you say is "I don't care if Trump tried to overthrow an election, I want that seditionist in charge anyway." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By TW52: Originally Posted By macros73: One tried to overthrow an election. One didn't. The math isn't hard. You’re a true believer in the establishment, aka, a useful idiot. The establishment left and the RINO’s have fucked this country and you’re here in full support. You’re right, the math isn’t hard, and you still can’t figure it out. Sad. All I'm hearing you say is "I don't care if Trump tried to overthrow an election, I want that seditionist in charge anyway." Vs Kamala? Yes. I really, really dislike Trump. I’ve been called a never trumper on here many times. I think he was by far the worst candidate to nominate. But. Ultimately elections are always about choosing the least bad candidate, and between the two shitty options, Trump is far less shitty. The reality is that he will not be able to accomplish much as a lame duck president that has proven to be incapable of managing congress. Kamala on the other hand is well positioned to cause lasting harm to the country. If you’re honest about the worst case scenario with each of them, I’m not sure how you could come up with Trump as the worse option. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:49:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwr6: You don’t need marching orders from the MSM when Trump himself is willing to tell you why you shouldn’t vote for him if you support the Constitution and value individual liberty. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwr6: Originally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: so glad to see another trump hater who totally, for real doesn't take all of their marching orders from the MSM. lol waycist and pedo too. way to outdo your peers. i would love to vote for massie or rand paul after DJT and his crew clean out the clowns. You don’t need marching orders from the MSM when Trump himself is willing to tell you why you shouldn’t vote for him if you support the Constitution and value individual liberty. here you go, have at it. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 10:13:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: here you go, have at it. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: Originally Posted By jwr6: Originally Posted By iveseenalittleontv: so glad to see another trump hater who totally, for real doesn't take all of their marching orders from the MSM. lol waycist and pedo too. way to outdo your peers. i would love to vote for massie or rand paul after DJT and his crew clean out the clowns. You don’t need marching orders from the MSM when Trump himself is willing to tell you why you shouldn’t vote for him if you support the Constitution and value individual liberty. here you go, have at it. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform Not what his campaign puts on the internet for the MTGA to drool over, but what he actually says when the prospect of more gun control or eliminating rules in the Constitution is on the table in front of him. |
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