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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:05:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: I'd prefer to see Congress, or at least the Senate, under Republican control. A division of power between parties would limit the worst excesses of each. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Network_Daddy: Cool, I was just wondering if one would vote to give Congress and the Presidency to the Dems or what. Mostly aimed at those who say they will vote Harris to oppose Trump rather than not vote for either. I'd prefer to see Congress, or at least the Senate, under Republican control. A division of power between parties would limit the worst excesses of each. Gridlock is usually the best situation for the Congress to be in. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:07:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Network_Daddy: Gridlock is usually the best situation for the Congress to be in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Network_Daddy: Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Network_Daddy: Cool, I was just wondering if one would vote to give Congress and the Presidency to the Dems or what. Mostly aimed at those who say they will vote Harris to oppose Trump rather than not vote for either. I'd prefer to see Congress, or at least the Senate, under Republican control. A division of power between parties would limit the worst excesses of each. Gridlock is usually the best situation for the Congress to be in. A Republican congress will just stand still anyway. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:19:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: A Republican congress will just stand still anyway. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By Network_Daddy: Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Network_Daddy: Cool, I was just wondering if one would vote to give Congress and the Presidency to the Dems or what. Mostly aimed at those who say they will vote Harris to oppose Trump rather than not vote for either. I'd prefer to see Congress, or at least the Senate, under Republican control. A division of power between parties would limit the worst excesses of each. Gridlock is usually the best situation for the Congress to be in. A Republican congress will just stand still anyway. Always do. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:20:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nu3gawhat: What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nu3gawhat: Originally Posted By jwr6: If writing in or third party is an easy choice versus Marxist Harris and commie cucker Trump, it’s just as easy to do so down ballot against Harris/Trump disciples. I don’t get it. You’re either for the Constitution or you aren’t. Trump isn’t and doesn’t even pretend. Sone of his disciples pretend to, but when daddy says so the children will get in line…against the USC. Trump is no genius, but he learned his lesson by the end of 2020. What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? 3rd Amendment. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:34:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: TxRabbitBane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nu3gawhat: What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nu3gawhat: Originally Posted By jwr6: If writing in or third party is an easy choice versus Marxist Harris and commie cucker Trump, it’s just as easy to do so down ballot against Harris/Trump disciples. I don’t get it. You’re either for the Constitution or you aren’t. Trump isn’t and doesn’t even pretend. Sone of his disciples pretend to, but when daddy says so the children will get in line…against the USC. Trump is no genius, but he learned his lesson by the end of 2020. What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? Are you familiar with the process to amend the constitution and what it takes to repeal an amendment? Hint: it’s hard for a reason |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:36:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Are you familiar with the process to amend the constitution and what it takes to repeal an amendment? Hint: it’s hard for a reason Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By nu3gawhat: Originally Posted By jwr6: If writing in or third party is an easy choice versus Marxist Harris and commie cucker Trump, it’s just as easy to do so down ballot against Harris/Trump disciples. I don’t get it. You’re either for the Constitution or you aren’t. Trump isn’t and doesn’t even pretend. Sone of his disciples pretend to, but when daddy says so the children will get in line…against the USC. Trump is no genius, but he learned his lesson by the end of 2020. What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? Are you familiar with the process to amend the constitution and what it takes to repeal an amendment? Hint: it’s hard for a reason What does it take to appoint Judges that will let you do it any ways? |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:37:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Are you familiar with the process to amend the constitution and what it takes to repeal an amendment? Hint: it’s hard for a reason Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By nu3gawhat: Originally Posted By jwr6: If writing in or third party is an easy choice versus Marxist Harris and commie cucker Trump, it’s just as easy to do so down ballot against Harris/Trump disciples. I don’t get it. You’re either for the Constitution or you aren’t. Trump isn’t and doesn’t even pretend. Sone of his disciples pretend to, but when daddy says so the children will get in line…against the USC. Trump is no genius, but he learned his lesson by the end of 2020. What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? Are you familiar with the process to amend the constitution and what it takes to repeal an amendment? Hint: it’s hard for a reason Are there any laws or government officials violating the Constitution today? |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:38:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: 3rd Amendment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: Originally Posted By nu3gawhat: Originally Posted By jwr6: If writing in or third party is an easy choice versus Marxist Harris and commie cucker Trump, it’s just as easy to do so down ballot against Harris/Trump disciples. I don’t get it. You’re either for the Constitution or you aren’t. Trump isn’t and doesn’t even pretend. Sone of his disciples pretend to, but when daddy says so the children will get in line…against the USC. Trump is no genius, but he learned his lesson by the end of 2020. What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? 3rd Amendment. Em.....No I don't trust them on that either. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:39:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Network_Daddy: Gridlock is usually the best situation for the Congress to be in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Network_Daddy: Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By Network_Daddy: Cool, I was just wondering if one would vote to give Congress and the Presidency to the Dems or what. Mostly aimed at those who say they will vote Harris to oppose Trump rather than not vote for either. I'd prefer to see Congress, or at least the Senate, under Republican control. A division of power between parties would limit the worst excesses of each. Gridlock is usually the best situation for the Congress to be in. Mostly agree, but all the gridlock in the world isn’t going to get me to vote for a democrat. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 3:59:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: The cult of trump will make up conspiracies and blame everyone but trump. They’ve been laying the groundwork for months. Yep. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 4:33:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMSo Trump is a POS but Harris is great? And your concern is with the "rule of law and the constitution", that's hilarious and so contradictory seeing as how Harris is very anti-2a rights. Every one of your talking points are cut and pastes from the MSM and establishment politicians. None hold any weight and many are contradictory. You're supporting the administration that left over 7 billion in military equipment in AFG, the same admin that is sending the Taliban millions every week right now. Then you post a Kinzinger video.  |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 4:43:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Seeing the obvious? Here’s what’s obvious to me: Trump is a convicted felon, an insurrectionist, a literal sociopath, a con artist (Trump University), a well-known fraudster (the Trump Foundation), a rapist, a perennial whiner and perma-victim, and a person for whom many of his own former high-level staff members - including his VP, Chief of Staff, National Security Advisor, et. al - won’t vote for him either. (BTW, that last bit is what’s known as “a clue”.) The funny thing is, if any Democrat running for president had that same embarrassing and shameful ‘resume’, people like you would be screaming bloody murder. You’d be using that fact as proof that the Democrats have finally gone off the deep end, have no functioning moral compass, and therefore have lost any right to be taken seriously. And in that circumstance…you’d be correct. Problem is, we’re not describing the Democrat candidate above. We’re describing Donald Trump. He’s very likely going to lose, and the entire GOP and everyone who has contributed to keeping Trump politically alive for the past eight years will 100% deserve the loss. To me those are the things that are “obvious”. But I understand, some people need to learn these things the hard way. And so they shall. ETA: I like the way you say Trump “SUCKS”, then in the next sentence claim he’s the “BEST” president in your lifetime. The cognitive dissonance of Trump’s supporters never ceases to amaze.  Convicted felon status means shit these days, aren't 30rd mags a felony in your state? Talk about rule of law and the constitution. You have a lot of trust in all things establishment government and mainstream media. If Trump is a POS, what does that make Biden, Obama, the Clinton's, Harris, and the laundry list of RINO's like Kinzinger and McConnell? Career politicians that have dug this country into the ground over the past 50 years. The issue is, everything you've said about Trump is either pure BS or if true, PALES in comparison to what the establishment has done. But ignore all that, orange man bad. You know, the guy who held office for 4 years, not the establishment who has held the fort since JFK. Yup, Trump has been the best president we have had in my lifetime so far, and he sucks, yes. It's not a hard label to get when we've had Bush Sr, Clinton, Obama, etc. in the past, talk about cognitive dissonance, look in the mirror. You bought the establishments propaganda, hook, line, and sinker. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 4:52:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nu3gawhat: What part of the Constitution won't the marxist democrats attack and subvert? Would they protect any part of the Bill of Rights? I’m not voting for Marxist democrats, either. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 5:26:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StephenNW: Yes, I’ve been aware for the last 16+ years that Arfcom - and especially Arfcom GD - isn’t the place one goes to get thoughtful, contemplative, insightful political analysis. All the more reason to occasionally come here and expose people to unpleasant realities that don’t want to hear. The economy is a disaster, gov response to COVID was a trainwreck, the origins were buried (hmmmmm), illegal immigration is worse than ever, taxes are out of control, spending is insane, corruption is at insane highs, we left over 7 billion in military equipment in AFG, we funded the coup in UKR to the tune of 5 billion, we've been giving money to the Taliban to the tune of 40-80 mil a week, our gun rights are under constant attack, blue states have the worst unconstitutional regs in place than ever before, many without grandfathering. But yeah, keep posting your MORONIC bullshit about how amazing the latest establishment candidate is and how they're the answer, you know, the same people that put us here in this position in the first place. Brilliant. Gee, why do people want Trump in, hmmmm, maybe because he's not a fucking Obama, Clinton, Bush, McConnell or Pelosi. Take your head out of CNN's ass already. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 5:51:47 PM EST
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Orange man is a felon, so says the corrupt to the core establishment government, therefore I'm voting Harris. Bring on many more illegals, higher taxes, more leftists on the SC, more wars, and more unconstitutional gun regs. Long live the bloated establishment!
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Posted: 8/29/2024 5:57:30 PM EST
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Lol. Trump is so bad, the cult of DeSantis leader endorsed him. That's gotta burn.
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:02:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: macros73]
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Talk about people who have bought into a lie and swallowed a load of crap hook, line, and sinker.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: The economy is a disaster, gov response to COVID was a trainwreck, the origins were buried (hmmmmm), illegal immigration is worse than ever, taxes are out of control, spending is insane, corruption is at insane highs, we left over 7 billion in military equipment in AFG, we funded the coup in UKR to the tune of 5 billion, we've been giving money to the Taliban to the tune of 40-80 mil a week, our gun rights are under constant attack, blue states have the worst unconstitutional regs in place than ever before, many without grandfathering. But yeah, keep posting your MORONIC bullshit about how amazing the latest establishment candidate is and how they're the answer, you know, the same people that put us here in this position in the first place. Brilliant. Gee, why do people want Trump in, hmmmm, maybe because he's not a fucking Obama, Clinton, Bush, McConnell or Pelosi. Take your head out of CNN's ass already. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:06:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: Thrasymachus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: The economy is a disaster, gov response to COVID was a trainwreck, the origins were buried (hmmmmm), illegal immigration is worse than ever, taxes are out of control, spending is insane, corruption is at insane highs, we left over 7 billion in military equipment in AFG, we funded the coup in UKR to the tune of 5 billion, we've been giving money to the Taliban to the tune of 40-80 mil a week, our gun rights are under constant attack, blue states have the worst unconstitutional regs in place than ever before, many without grandfathering. But yeah, keep posting your MORONIC bullshit about how amazing the latest establishment candidate is and how they're the answer, you know, the same people that put us here in this position in the first place. Brilliant. Gee, why do people want Trump in, hmmmm, maybe because he's not a fucking Obama, Clinton, Bush, McConnell or Pelosi. Take your head out of CNN's ass already. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: Originally Posted By StephenNW: Yes, I’ve been aware for the last 16+ years that Arfcom - and especially Arfcom GD - isn’t the place one goes to get thoughtful, contemplative, insightful political analysis. All the more reason to occasionally come here and expose people to unpleasant realities that don’t want to hear. The economy is a disaster, gov response to COVID was a trainwreck, the origins were buried (hmmmmm), illegal immigration is worse than ever, taxes are out of control, spending is insane, corruption is at insane highs, we left over 7 billion in military equipment in AFG, we funded the coup in UKR to the tune of 5 billion, we've been giving money to the Taliban to the tune of 40-80 mil a week, our gun rights are under constant attack, blue states have the worst unconstitutional regs in place than ever before, many without grandfathering. But yeah, keep posting your MORONIC bullshit about how amazing the latest establishment candidate is and how they're the answer, you know, the same people that put us here in this position in the first place. Brilliant. Gee, why do people want Trump in, hmmmm, maybe because he's not a fucking Obama, Clinton, Bush, McConnell or Pelosi. Take your head out of CNN's ass already. Add to that that terrible deal to leave Afghanistan Biden negotiatiated. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:12:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: TW52]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Talk about people who have bought into a lie and swallowed a load of crap hook, line, and sinker. What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:20:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: Originally Posted By macros73: Talk about people who have bought into a lie and swallowed a load of crap hook, line, and sinker. What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. We are at 99 pages of “thoughtful, contemplative, insightful political analysis” |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:22:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. Most of what you said is correct. Though I'm not sure what you think has changed with our taxes. We just likely disagree on most of the causes, and what are the solutions. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:24:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: I don't like her policy suggestions re: taxing unrealized gains, and I didn't like it when Trump signed a bill to tax unrealized gains, either. Trump's USSC had an opportunity to rule that the federal government cannot tax unrealized games. The court chickened out: --- Instead, Kavanaugh explained, the real “precise and narrow question” before the justices was whether Congress can attribute income that an entity has realized but not distributed to its shareholders or partners and then tax that income." --- Thomas, a George H.W. Bush nominee, addressed it directly in his dissent (with riding along and hopefully learning something): --- Justice Clarence Thomas dissented from the court’s decision, in an opinion joined by Justice Neil Gorsuch. He argued that for purposes of the 16th Amendment, “income” is only income that a taxpayer receives. And because the Moores “never actually received any of their investment gains,” he contended, “those unrealized gains could not be taxed as ‘income.’” --- https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/court-upholds-trump-era-corporate-tax-on-foreign-earnings/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Originally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By jwr6: Originally Posted By StephenNW: Really? Kinzinger lost an election but falsely claimed he was cheated? Kinzinger raped a woman? Kinzinger called his fellow veterans “suckers”? Kinzinger’s foundation was shut down for blatant fraud? Kinzinger cheated on multiple wives and then lied (and continues to lie) about it? Kinzinger constantly has nice things to say about Communists, and even writes them “love letters”? Your false equivalency is amusing. MTGA assures me Trump did none of that, and even if he did, he’s still the lesser of two evils, because Harris is the second coming of Lenin. Good thing I’m happily libertarian. Stop spreading your disinformation. All good Trumpettes know that Lenin was the first coming of Harris. Well, if you listened to what she said about equality and equity... I don't like her policy suggestions re: taxing unrealized gains, and I didn't like it when Trump signed a bill to tax unrealized gains, either. Trump's USSC had an opportunity to rule that the federal government cannot tax unrealized games. The court chickened out: --- Instead, Kavanaugh explained, the real “precise and narrow question” before the justices was whether Congress can attribute income that an entity has realized but not distributed to its shareholders or partners and then tax that income." --- Thomas, a George H.W. Bush nominee, addressed it directly in his dissent (with riding along and hopefully learning something): --- Justice Clarence Thomas dissented from the court’s decision, in an opinion joined by Justice Neil Gorsuch. He argued that for purposes of the 16th Amendment, “income” is only income that a taxpayer receives. And because the Moores “never actually received any of their investment gains,” he contended, “those unrealized gains could not be taxed as ‘income.’” --- https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/court-upholds-trump-era-corporate-tax-on-foreign-earnings/ Okay. I was referencing something else. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:28:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Most of what you said is correct. Though I'm not sure what you think has changed with our taxes. We just likely disagree on most of the causes, and what are the solutions. All of what I said is correct. Taxes are too high and there are too many things that are taxed, too much wasteful spending and corruption. Are you a Harris guy or a RINO Bush Jr/Romney/Kinzinger guy or a voting is pointless type? I'm Libertarian leaning, never vote Dem, vote R when it's someone better than the average POS RINO. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:29:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. I was going to type my usual thing. However I dont have the energy anymore. These people believe Trump will fix it. They have convinced themselves that Trump is going to save us this time. All the bad things will go away and everyone wi get what they always wanted. Oh and Trump will tell us all who killed JFK for real this time. Seriously though. They do believe this. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:33:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: All of what I said is correct. Taxes are too high and there are too many things that are taxed, too much wasteful spending and corruption. Are you a Harris guy or a RINO Bush Jr/Romney/Kinzinger guy or a voting is pointless type? I'm Libertarian leaning, never vote Dem, vote R when it's someone better than the average POS RINO. I'm a "limited government, pro-freedom, individual choice, state's rights" guy. I was assuming that list of yours was some sort of Trump=good, Biden=bad type thing. Yeah, Biden/Harris have done alot of bad shit. But so did their predecessor. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:34:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: I was going to type my usual thing. However I dont have the energy anymore. These people believe Trump will fix it. They have convinced themselves that Trump is going to save us this time. All the bad things will go away and everyone wi get what they always wanted. Oh and Trump will tell us all who killed JFK for real this time. Seriously though. They do believe this. I don't know any Trump voter that believes that Trump is savior and that'll he'll fix much. Just a whole bunch of people that know how much worse it'll get under Harris. Much, much worse. The past 3.5 years have been a cluster fuck to say the least. 8 years of Barry were SHIT. Trump at least did some good, which is a hell of a lot more than we got from Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, & Biden. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:36:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: So Trump is a POS but Harris is great? And your concern is with the "rule of law and the constitution", that's hilarious and so contradictory seeing as how Harris is very anti-2a rights. Every one of your talking points are cut and pastes from the MSM and establishment politicians. None hold any weight and many are contradictory. You're supporting the administration that left over 7 billion in military equipment in AFG, the same admin that is sending the Taliban millions every week right now. Then you post a Kinzinger video. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: Originally Posted By StephenNW: Make it two. I’ll be voting for Harris. Above, macros73 well-explained why. There’s only one candidate in this election who - as much as I may disagree with her on policy - is not a blatant, proven threat to the rule of law and U.S. Constitution. In the past, conservatives would have long ago kicked Trump to the curb. Nowadays however, the GOP establishment is too cowardly and spineless to get rid of the guy. And so they should, and will, pay the political price for abandoning any semblance of still being a conservative party. Just as with drug addicts, the GOP will need to hit rock bottom before it decides to confront its massive problem. My hope is that when Trump loses, enough people on the political right will finally understand that their 2016 Faustian bargain was a really bad idea all along, and that returning to actual conservatism instead of neo-populism will serve them well. And if they don’t, well…the political marketplace will continue to self-sort. At the expense of those of us who still believe in the original, actual conservative values that made America great. Kinzinger’s speech last week basically reflects how I feel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYSU5omhqMSo Trump is a POS but Harris is great? And your concern is with the "rule of law and the constitution", that's hilarious and so contradictory seeing as how Harris is very anti-2a rights. Every one of your talking points are cut and pastes from the MSM and establishment politicians. None hold any weight and many are contradictory. You're supporting the administration that left over 7 billion in military equipment in AFG, the same admin that is sending the Taliban millions every week right now. Then you post a Kinzinger video. His state's electoral votes are going to FKH, so his vote is only symbolic. My symbolic vote is not going to a lesser evil.* I'm not sure what his excuse is. *My designated lesser evil is the Orange Populist. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:52:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: Alwaysright]
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100 pages we can do it.
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:54:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: I don't know any Trump voter that believes that Trump is savior and that'll he'll fix much. Just a whole bunch of people that know how much worse it'll get under Harris. Much, much worse. The past 3.5 years have been a cluster fuck to say the least. 8 years of Barry were SHIT. Trump at least did some good, which is a hell of a lot more than we got from Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, & Biden. Then you have not read all 99 pages of this thread. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:55:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: I don't know any Trump voter that believes that Trump is savior and that'll he'll fix much. Just a whole bunch of people that know how much worse it'll get under Harris. Much, much worse. The past 3.5 years have been a cluster fuck to say the least. 8 years of Barry were SHIT. Trump at least did some good, which is a hell of a lot more than we got from Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, & Biden. I can’t argue. Things have been bad for a very long time… I would say before WW1. I think people actually cared back then. Maybe I am naive but I believe the he majority of people lived by the golden rule back then. If you didn’t then you had the far of getting your ass whipped. The world is not like that anymore. The govt straight up lies on TV every single day. We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know, we know they are lying and we know they know that we know they are lying. But yet we the people. The people with all the real power continue to ignore it. We are willing to just let it go… it’s not the govts fault. It’s ours. We vote the lesser of two evils because it’s easier than us all going out and promoting someone better. Shit. I have spun off… I just can’t help it. :( |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 6:59:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: I don't know any Trump voter that believes that Trump is savior and that'll he'll fix much. Just a whole bunch of people that know how much worse it'll get under Harris. Much, much worse. The past 3.5 years have been a cluster fuck to say the least. 8 years of Barry were SHIT. Trump at least did some good, which is a hell of a lot more than we got from Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, & Biden. The economy did very well under Obama if you are honest enough with yourself to look at the facts. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:02:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cja11B2P: The economy did very well under Obama if you are honest enough with yourself to look at the facts. The stock market did well. I remember an economic collapse followed by trillions of dollars in corporate welfare to keep the businesses "too big to fail" alive. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:04:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: The stock market did well. I remember an economic collapse followed by trillions of dollars in corporate welfare to keep the businesses "too big to fail" alive. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By Cja11B2P: The economy did very well under Obama if you are honest enough with yourself to look at the facts. The stock market did well. I remember an economic collapse followed by trillions of dollars in corporate welfare to keep the businesses "too big to fail" alive. And who signed TARP into law? |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:10:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: And who signed TARP into law? Right. If you have to prop up an economy in crisis by injecting trillions of dollars, or are otherwise artificially stimulating growth via measures that add to the federal debt, that is not "doing well". |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:20:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Right. If you have to prop up an economy in crisis by injecting trillions of dollars, or are otherwise artificially stimulating growth via measures that add to the federal debt, that is not "doing well". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: And who signed TARP into law? Right. If you have to prop up an economy in crisis by injecting trillions of dollars, or are otherwise artificially stimulating growth via measures that add to the federal debt, that is not "doing well". It's a bit disingenuous to only look at the first part of Obama's presidency as a gauge for the success for the entirety of his time in office. The same way it's idiotic to only look at the economy under Trump before February 2020, and claim that Trump's economy was nothing but rainbows and sunshine. The reality is that the economy moves independent of who is in office, and the policies enacted by a particular president usually has a significant lag effect. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:25:04 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cja11B2P: The economy did very well under Obama if you are honest enough with yourself to look at the facts. Some areas, no doubt, saying it did "very well" for the average joe is comedy gold. I don't need to look at stats, I just have to look back at all of the people I knew back then that were struggling to make ends meet, some lost their homes, some lost their businesses. Not druggies, not spendthrifts, responsible adults. Then there's his cluster in Iraq, bringing racial issues back on the table, and a whole lot more. Great times. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:28:06 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: It's a bit disingenuous to only look at the first part of Obama's presidency as a gauge for the success for the entirety of his time in office. The same way it's idiotic to only look at the economy under Trump before February 2020, and claim that Trump's economy was nothing but rainbows and sunshine. The reality is that the economy moves independent of who is in office, and the policies enacted by a particular president usually has a significant lag effect. completely agree |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 8:15:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: nu3gawhat]
[#38]
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Posted: 8/29/2024 9:21:00 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nu3gawhat:
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Posted: 8/29/2024 9:38:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: macros73]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: Originally Posted By macros73: Talk about people who have bought into a lie and swallowed a load of crap hook, line, and sinker. What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. You seem to think that Trump is free of culpability for the current economy, the state of the country, or even the bungled Afghan withdrawl, and that electing him will improve things. Someday you'll wake up and realize you're seeing things through marmalade-tinted lenses. I did fine under Bush, Clinton, another Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. I'll survive a Harris Presidency unless an Oranghemden gets me. I’ll skip ahead to what is usually the next response. “But blue candidate bad! If you don’t vote for the seditious traitor, someone who might do bad things will win!” |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 9:49:02 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: You seem to think that Trump is free of culpability for the current economy, the state of the country, or even the bungled Afghan withdrawl, and that electing him will improve things. Someday you'll wake up and realize you're seeing things through marmalade-tinted lenses. I did fine under Bush, Clinton, another Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. I'll survive a Harris Presidency unless an Oranghemden gets me. I’ll skip ahead to what is usually the next response. “But woman President bad! If you don’t vote for the seditious traitor, someone who might do bad things will win!” While I don't agree with your choice, as an American you have every right to vote for whoever the fuck you want to. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:18:08 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alwaysright: While I don't agree with your choice, as an American you have every right to vote for whoever the fuck you want to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alwaysright: Originally Posted By macros73: You seem to think that Trump is free of culpability for the current economy, the state of the country, or even the bungled Afghan withdrawl, and that electing him will improve things. Someday you'll wake up and realize you're seeing things through marmalade-tinted lenses. I did fine under Bush, Clinton, another Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. I'll survive a Harris Presidency unless an Oranghemden gets me. I’ll skip ahead to what is usually the next response. “But woman President bad! If you don’t vote for the seditious traitor, someone who might do bad things will win!” While I don't agree with your choice, as an American you have every right to vote for whoever the fuck you want to. How dare you quote me while I’m still editing. But thanks. 
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:23:59 PM EST
[#43]
 Trump Town - Forgiato Blow x Hadas Levy |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:40:45 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: You seem to think that Trump is free of culpability for the current economy, the state of the country, or even the bungled Afghan withdrawl, and that electing him will improve things. Someday you'll wake up and realize you're seeing things through marmalade-tinted lenses. I did fine under Bush, Clinton, another Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. I'll survive a Harris Presidency unless an Oranghemden gets me. I’ll skip ahead to what is usually the next response. “But blue candidate bad! If you don’t vote for the seditious traitor, someone who might do bad things will win!” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: Originally Posted By TW52: Originally Posted By macros73: Talk about people who have bought into a lie and swallowed a load of crap hook, line, and sinker. What part of what I said was wrong? It's spot fucking on. This country is in rough shape, to say otherwise would be fucking comical. You seem to think that Trump is free of culpability for the current economy, the state of the country, or even the bungled Afghan withdrawl, and that electing him will improve things. Someday you'll wake up and realize you're seeing things through marmalade-tinted lenses. I did fine under Bush, Clinton, another Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. I'll survive a Harris Presidency unless an Oranghemden gets me. I’ll skip ahead to what is usually the next response. “But blue candidate bad! If you don’t vote for the seditious traitor, someone who might do bad things will win!” Trump only pawn in game of life. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:43:14 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macros73: You seem to think that Trump is free of culpability for the current economy, the state of the country, or even the bungled Afghan withdrawl, and that electing him will improve things. Someday you'll wake up and realize you're seeing things through marmalade-tinted lenses. I did fine under Bush, Clinton, another Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. I'll survive a Harris Presidency unless an Oranghemden gets me. I’ll skip ahead to what is usually the next response. “But blue candidate bad! If you don’t vote for the seditious traitor, someone who might do bad things will win!” The fact that you can't place blame on any of what I mentioned in my previous post as being the fault of the establishment left and RINO's is very telling. Guys like you are exactly why it's Trump vs Harris. You were born in '73? So you're 51 and you still haven't a clue? All you've done in every post in this thread is parrot MSM propaganda. You're more butthurt about muh "insurrection" than you are the state of the country. Absolutely amazing really, orange man is the problem, the guy that was in for four years, not the people that dropped anchor and have been in for 20, 30, or 50 years, drilling our country into the ground. Just admit that you're a leftist vote blue no matter who Democrat (if you haven't already). You must be "pro-gun, but..." as well. Truth is, I'm not even a Trump fan, not even a little. I sat out the last election, but I've had my fill of the BS. If anyone can't tell the difference between people like Harris, Romney, McConnell and Pelosi vs Trump, then you're lost. He's not the answer, but a step in the right direction. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:53:26 PM EST
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[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW52: The fact that you can't place blame on any of what I mentioned in my previous post as being the fault of the establishment left and RINO's is very telling. Guys like you are exactly why it's Trump vs Harris. You were born in '73? So you're 51 and you still haven't a clue? All you've done in every post in this thread is parrot MSM propaganda. You're more butthurt about muh "insurrection" than you are the state of the country. Absolutely amazing really, orange man is the problem, the guy that was in for four years, not the people that dropped anchor and have been in for 20, 30, or 50 years, drilling our country into the ground. Just admit that you're a leftist vote blue no matter who Democrat (if you haven't already). You must be "pro-gun, but..." as well. Truth is, I'm not even a Trump fan, not even a little. I sat out the last election, but I've had my fill of the BS. If anyone can't tell the difference between people like Harris, Romney, McConnell and Pelosi vs Trump, then you're lost. He's not the answer, but a step in the right direction. You are arguing with people who are so sheltered by their affluent New England liberal NIMBY Mayberry that it doesn’t matter who is president. Open border policies have no effect on their livelihood. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:54:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryHow far is Trump Town from Trumplandia? |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:55:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: Alwaysright]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: You are arguing with people who are so sheltered by their affluent liberal NIMBY community that it doesn’t matter who is president. Open border policies have no effect on their livelihood.  I can literally see Mexico from my front door, and things here were not all that much different under Trump. No meaningful wall was built and Mexico did not pay for it. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 10:59:21 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alwaysright: Damn Millennials speak in emojis these days. Use your words, boy. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 11:00:26 PM EST
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