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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:35:45 AM EDT
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Black holes, the universe's trash dumps.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:36:34 AM EDT
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Imagine how much more we know about our planet and universe today than 1,000 years ago. Now try to grasp how much more humans will know 1,000 years from now. It's exciting and depressing all at the same time.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:36:43 AM EDT
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IN!
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:47:12 AM EDT
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Imagine how much more we know about our planet and universe today than 1,000 years ago. Now try to grasp how much more humans will know 1,000 years from now. It's exciting and depressing all at the same time. We may assemble our own freestanding caves and our technological stone of choice is silica, but cavemen we will be. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:48:12 AM EDT
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Roger is still alive? Wow. Haven't read his stuff in years. Must be me.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:48:39 AM EDT
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Or black holes are like PacMan gobbling everything up until there is nothing left and the big bang is like resetting the video game and we are just part of some higher beings private arcade.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:54:48 AM EDT
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Imagine how much more we know about our planet and universe today than 1,000 years ago. Now try to grasp how much more humans will know 1,000 years from now. It's exciting and depressing all at the same time. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. 
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:56:37 AM EDT
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It's so funny when they say shit like this without any real scientific evidence to support the theories. Fun to read, but so full of holes (not black ones). Part of this one is also akin to reincarnation of the universe.
As one of the leading experts has said in a physics.org article, "The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there." There is also the recognized problem of scientists throwing out theories because they have a strong desire and interest in publishing "new science" that disrupts existing thinking. That's one of the reasons that they will latch onto any bit of math that can be used to theoretically "potentially" support the oddball ideas. And, it's all guesswork so if you can get a few scientists to say that you might be right, you win - in publishing, research funding, etc. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:58:35 AM EDT
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People think alternate universes don't be like they is, but they do.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:59:11 AM EDT
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New "discoveries" = job security.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 9:59:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:00:22 AM EDT
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It's so funny when they say shit like this without any real scientific evidence to support the theories. Fun to read, but so full of holes (not black ones). Part of this one is also akin to reincarnation of the universe. As one of the leading experts has said in a physics.org article, "The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there." There is also the recognized problem of scientists throwing out theories because they have a strong desire and interest in publishing "new science" that disrupts existing thinking. That's one of the reasons that they will latch onto any bit of math that can be used to theoretically "potentially" support the oddball ideas. And, it's all guesswork so if you can get a few scientists to say that you might be right, you win - in publishing, research funding, etc. 
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:02:41 AM EDT
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Until science can answer "why", not just "what" and " how", religion will continue to exist. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:02:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Until science can answer "why", not just "what" and " how", religion will continue to exist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. There will always be people that feel the need to hand control of their lives over to some sort of higher power, imaginary or not. One of the biggest things about religion though, especially the primitive ones on up until the origins of modern Abrahamic ones was trying to explain the (at that time, anyway) unexplainable. We've now managed to actually figure out what's going on with all of that, how it happened...and in many cases why it happens. Not everything though, but give it time. 
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:04:22 AM EDT
[#15]
Well of course they have.
Now prove it bitches.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:07:19 AM EDT
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Until science can answer "why", not just "what" and " how", religion will continue to exist. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:08:23 AM EDT
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Your statement presumes the universe needs to have a purpose given to it. I reject that premise, as the universe needs not have any purpose other that that I give it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:08:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's part of why I said "basically obsolete" There will always be people that feel the need to hand control of their lives over to some sort of higher power, imaginary or not. One of the biggest things about religion though, especially the primitive ones on up until the origins of modern Abrahamic ones was trying to explain the (at that time, anyway) unexplainable. We've now managed to actually figure out what's going on with all of that, how it happened...and in many cases why it happens. Not everything though, but give it time. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:09:49 AM EDT
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Until science can answer "why", not just "what" and " how", religion will continue to exist. I do believe THAT will be the last days of the human race. You think the left gets unhinged when you prove their sacred cows get gored, you ain't seen nothing until you challenge ones sky god's superiority or existence. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:12:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:12:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:13:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it's probably a good thing GR only seeks to explain what happened after the big bang. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:14:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:14:13 AM EDT
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It's so funny when they say shit like this without any real scientific evidence to support the theories. Fun to read, but so full of holes (not black ones). Part of this one is also akin to reincarnation of the universe. As one of the leading experts has said in a physics.org article, "The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there." There is also the recognized problem of scientists throwing out theories because they have a strong desire and interest in publishing "new science" that disrupts existing thinking. That's one of the reasons that they will latch onto any bit of math that can be used to theoretically "potentially" support the oddball ideas. And, it's all guesswork so if you can get a few scientists to say that you might be right, you win - in publishing, research funding, etc. So we dont have a consistent and accurate description of one of the most fundamental parts of the universe. I am not saying that QED isn't incredibly useful, same goes for general relativity... but neither are consistent or universal. Why not figure that one out before trying to guess at the grand nature of everything.... |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:16:05 AM EDT
[#25]
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Imagine how much more we know about our planet and universe today than 1,000 years ago. Now try to grasp how much more humans will know 1,000 years from now. It's exciting and depressing all at the same time. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:17:26 AM EDT
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No shit. This just reinforces my theory which i posted here before.
In the beginning there was only dark matter. Then the dark matter was sublimated into matter in an event we have called the big bang. Black holes suck in matter and depose it into dark matter and eject it out, eventually deposing all matter back to dark. And then the sublimation happens again, an endless cycle. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:17:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWobblin-Goblin: Imagine how much more we know about our planet and universe today than 1,000 years ago. Now try to grasp how much more humans will know 1,000 years from now. It's exciting and depressing all at the same time.
Quote HistoryWobblin-Goblin: Imagine how much more we know about our planet and universe today than 1,000 years ago. Now try to grasp how much more humans will know 1,000 years from now. It's exciting and depressing all at the same time.
Socio: Maybe it is the same universe, with a first floor and a second floor and black holes are like elevator of sorts with a slow motion down button only, once they take everything down to the first floor and express elevator shoots it all back up to the second floor with a big bang and a whole new layout. 
TescoVee: Your statement presumes the universe needs to have a purpose given to it. I reject that premise, as the universe needs not have any purpose other that that I give it. 
Recusance:The interesting an still unrealized result that remains yet unanswered is what will humanity do with itself once God is dis-proven and a myth?
I do believe THAT will be the last days of the human race. You think the left gets unhinged when you prove their sacred cows get gored, you ain't seen nothing until you challenge ones sky god's superiority or existence.
Human species* |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:19:53 AM EDT
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The interesting an still unrealized result that remains yet unanswered is what will humanity do with itself once God is dis-proven and a myth? I do believe THAT will be the last days of the human race. You think the left gets unhinged when you prove their sacred cows get gored, you ain't seen nothing until you challenge ones sky god's superiority or existence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Until science can answer "why", not just "what" and " how", religion will continue to exist. I do believe THAT will be the last days of the human race. You think the left gets unhinged when you prove their sacred cows get gored, you ain't seen nothing until you challenge ones sky god's superiority or existence. No matter what evidence is presented, a large portion of the population will reject it. Look at the huge number of young earth creationists for proof of this. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:19:58 AM EDT
[#29]
What was he smoking and where can I get some?
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:24:49 AM EDT
[#30]
Lol
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:26:12 AM EDT
[#31]
All matter compressed into very small space. It explodes and expands (Big Bang) until it is all gathered back up into black holes and recompressed into very small space, then it explodes and expands? Soooo...we're part of the fuel in a recycling perpetual motion engine powering some machine in a much larger universe.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:26:38 AM EDT
[#32]
Sure they did.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:32:55 AM EDT
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Just a pin point of space has revealed many other entire galaxies.
There are other universes way way out in the distance. Think of it as our entire know universe is but a grain of sand on the beach |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:35:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:36:41 AM EDT
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It's so funny when they say shit like this without any real scientific evidence to support the theories. Fun to read, but so full of holes (not black ones). Part of this one is also akin to reincarnation of the universe. As one of the leading experts has said in a physics.org article, "The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there." There is also the recognized problem of scientists throwing out theories because they have a strong desire and interest in publishing "new science" that disrupts existing thinking. That's one of the reasons that they will latch onto any bit of math that can be used to theoretically "potentially" support the oddball ideas. And, it's all guesswork so if you can get a few scientists to say that you might be right, you win - in publishing, research funding, etc. 
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:37:44 AM EDT
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For weak willed and mentally feeble, sure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Until science can answer "why", not just "what" and " how", religion will continue to exist. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:38:11 AM EDT
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That's part of why I said "basically obsolete" There will always be people that feel the need to hand control of their lives over to some sort of higher power, imaginary or not. One of the biggest things about religion though, especially the primitive ones on up until the origins of modern Abrahamic ones was trying to explain the (at that time, anyway) unexplainable. We've now managed to actually figure out what's going on with all of that, how it happened...and in many cases why it happens. Not everything though, but give it time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. There will always be people that feel the need to hand control of their lives over to some sort of higher power, imaginary or not. One of the biggest things about religion though, especially the primitive ones on up until the origins of modern Abrahamic ones was trying to explain the (at that time, anyway) unexplainable. We've now managed to actually figure out what's going on with all of that, how it happened...and in many cases why it happens. Not everything though, but give it time. Why? In addition to his natural genius, he had an insatiable quest for knowledge. That kind of humility is rare in today's world. For example, you think we know most of the answers, but you'd be shocked to know that we don't even know the questions. We don't know if Time is real. We don't know what Gravity is. We don't understand the nature of Photons. We don't understand the connection between the Newtonian world in which we live, and the Quantum world which makes up our Universe. The more we learn, the more it seems that we are just seeing a human centric reflection of the truth. Things in the quantum world do not fit our definition of reality. It might as well be Harry Potter Witchcraft, ... or God... I wish more people had the ability to grasp the wonder of it. You don't even have to read. Start with some YouTube videos. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:40:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It depends, mankind seems hell bent on going backwards, elevating weak and suppressing the strong, trading higher education for useless knowledge, perverting our history leaving us no solid foundation to build upon etc... a 1000 years from now might look more like a 1000 years ago. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:40:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. 
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:40:57 AM EDT
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Interesting thread, but unfortunately it didn't take long for someone to drop the usual turd in the punch bowl.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:48:42 AM EDT
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Roger has a microbrewery a few blocks from me. Like all fine microbrews, his is very good.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:55:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Imagine how much more we know about our planet and universe today than 1,000 years ago. Now try to grasp how much more humans will know 1,000 years from now. It's exciting and depressing all at the same time. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 10:56:29 AM EDT
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Can you atheist guys ever just let a science thread exist without adding religion to it?
Good grief. And I'm a Christian! @ the OP, this is neat, but I'd have to see a lot more supporting evidence to counteract the decades of scientific research I've read from far bigger names. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 11:03:43 AM EDT
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 Animal House 1978 one tiny little Atom under your fingernail |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 11:05:24 AM EDT
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Take this with a few tons of salt. It's a theory from a Hawking collaborator, and they are trying to use it to explain something that is seen in the CMB data. Letting theorists post facto explain features of the data rarely leads you down the right road.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 11:08:57 AM EDT
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It's so funny when they say shit like this without any real scientific evidence to support the theories. Fun to read, but so full of holes (not black ones). Part of this one is also akin to reincarnation of the universe. As one of the leading experts has said in a physics.org article, "The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there." There is also the recognized problem of scientists throwing out theories because they have a strong desire and interest in publishing "new science" that disrupts existing thinking. That's one of the reasons that they will latch onto any bit of math that can be used to theoretically "potentially" support the oddball ideas. And, it's all guesswork so if you can get a few scientists to say that you might be right, you win - in publishing, research funding, etc. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 11:10:06 AM EDT
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I’m sure the answers to the universe are easy to find.
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Posted: 8/26/2018 11:12:36 AM EDT
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No shit. This just reinforces my theory which i posted here before. In the beginning there was only dark matter. Then the dark matter was sublimated into matter in an event we have called the big bang. Black holes suck in matter and depose it into dark matter and eject it out, eventually deposing all matter back to dark. And then the sublimation happens again, an endless cycle. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 11:13:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We understand enough about science and physics and the universe and such to have made religions basically obsolete. There's no need for magical sky people to make things happen, we understand the mechanics and processes behind it all now. I think 20 years from now the discoveries will be so amazing that you wouldn't be able to guess at one right now. Proof: The phone in my hand right now was just straight up impossible 20 years ago. It contains or has access to the entire sum of human knowledge. It has more processing power than existed on the entire world up until the early 90s. I can hold it in my hand. Think about that for a minute. |
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Posted: 8/26/2018 11:17:22 AM EDT
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It's impossible to disprove God. No matter what evidence is presented, a large portion of the population will reject it. Look at the huge number of young earth creationists for proof of this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Until science can answer "why", not just "what" and " how", religion will continue to exist. I do believe THAT will be the last days of the human race. You think the left gets unhinged when you prove their sacred cows get gored, you ain't seen nothing until you challenge ones sky god's superiority or existence. No matter what evidence is presented, a large portion of the population will reject it. Look at the huge number of young earth creationists for proof of this. |
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