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Fight today to prevent future gun bans!
What makes you think they will let you keep anything? |
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Buy weapons face-to-face or manufacture some 80% lowers and store them remotely.
Buying an 80% lower from a manufacturer possibly leaves a paper trail. The question becomes what means of torture will the United States Government use upon its citizens to get information? I'm assuming we're going to have gulags in the next couple of years unless the adults get put in charge again. |
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Magazines. I don't expect an ammo ban on non-Soviet calibers (and then only an import ban), but I do expect higher taxes at some point.
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Buy extra everything. Preserve and bury one or two complete ones plus ammo as a hedge against surprise confiscation while you're not home.
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Quoted: If it's time to bury, it's time to use View Quote This is true, at some point we, not just gun owners but all that enjoy freedom will be pushed into standing our ground and I'm afraid that day is near. Once that threshold is crossed from where ever it originates it will spread across the nation like wildfire. We are either a free nation and keep it that way or we go the way of Venezuela and now Columbia, that is the choice. |
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Is there a gun that when it is 30 years old it is still going to be good? I think a AR or AK should survive time, Do you think the plastic guns(Glock,XD,M&P) from the last 20 years will survive to 30-40 years old?
I see alot of guys saying that if it is time to bury them it is time to use them. What are you going to do if a team of guys show up for confiscation? 1 person cant take on a team unless you have been watching Rambo and staying at a holiday inn. I think having some buried in strategic location is a great back up plan but I cant figure out how to keep the moisture out of one for many years. The idea about keeping it below the frost line was a great idea that I had not thought of. |
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I’m preparing by getting as much professional training as possible, buying ammo (though not for hoarding), training with like-minded individuals locally, and making sure my gear (e.g. armor, LBE, radio, drones, NV devices, thermal, etc.) is squared away. Also gotta remember batteries for all that shit.
At the risk of sounding self-righteous, this is the only correct answer ![]() |
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Quoted: Is there a gun that when it is 30 years old it is still going to be good? I think a AR or AK should survive time, Do you think the plastic guns(Glock,XD,M&P) from the last 20 years will survive to 30-40 years old? I see alot of guys saying that if it is time to bury them it is time to use them. What are you going to do if a team of guys show up for confiscation? 1 person cant take on a team unless you have been watching Rambo and staying at a holiday inn. I think having some buried in strategic location is a great back up plan but I cant figure out how to keep the moisture out of one for many years. The idea about keeping it below the frost line was a great idea that I had not thought of. View Quote Um, call out your own team to do business with them? Is this a serious question, or are you just joshin us? |
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Quoted: Is there a gun that when it is 30 years old it is still going to be good? I think a AR or AK should survive time, Do you think the plastic guns(Glock,XD,M&P) from the last 20 years will survive to 30-40 years old? I see alot of guys saying that if it is time to bury them it is time to use them. What are you going to do if a team of guys show up for confiscation? 1 person cant take on a team unless you have been watching Rambo and staying at a holiday inn. I think having some buried in strategic location is a great back up plan but I cant figure out how to keep the moisture out of one for many years. The idea about keeping it below the frost line was a great idea that I had not thought of. View Quote Yep- Glocks expire after 30 years. Carried one of mine daily for about 23 years of duty, and it has been a couple years mostly sitting in the safe since I retired, so I figure I have 5 more years before it melts into a puddle... Seriously though- just change the springs on the mags and recoil spring, put on new night sights every 7 years or so, and they last a long time. Have yet to see a Glock with polymer aging issues. Probably last forever in a safe. |
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Probably just need a pen and a pad of paper so you can list all the reasons they were just range toys anyway, and you don't really mind the confiscation.
After all, we've made excuses for why the bio weapon the deep state developed in China and then deployed on us was just a mishap. And how the subsequent forced gene experiment wasn't that big a deal. And how the blatant overthrow of our government was probably just soccer moms reacting to mean tweets. And now how the eviceration of the working class is just a mismanagement issue,.. We ain't standing up to shit, so no need to work up a sweat digging holes. |
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Quoted: What do you think the best way to prepare for future gun bans? Do you buy a bunch of Lowers ? Buy ton of magazines or ammo? What is the best way to bury a gun for long term storage in a area that get 4 seasons and lots of rain? View Quote If you have to bury it, you don't really own it. Stop thinking about how to cower under the boot and prepare yourself mentally to not comply. They don't have enough prisons to hold us all. |
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I prepared by going ahead and taking all my guns to various police gun buyback events. I didn't need them for hunting anyway. And now they're off the streets.
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Quoted: it's a 1st Amend restriction.. because EVENTUALLY, they will start red flagging Conservatives for talking ill the Left.. like if you make a thread here and say " Democrats are crazy.. I hate them" KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK... View Quote [Sacasm] “The police would never take our guns, dEY oN OuR SiDE” [end sarcasm] |
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If it gets to that point, CW2 is kicking off and I fully expect for shipping containers from Polytech, Norinco and Izhmash to start randomly appearing in the US.
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I prepared by ordering a new MBT2 trigger for my pistol yesterday.
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Quoted: Is there a gun that when it is 30 years old it is still going to be good? I think a AR or AK should survive time, Do you think the plastic guns(Glock,XD,M&P) from the last 20 years will survive to 30-40 years old? I see alot of guys saying that if it is time to bury them it is time to use them. What are you going to do if a team of guys show up for confiscation? 1 person cant take on a team unless you have been watching Rambo and staying at a holiday inn. I think having some buried in strategic location is a great back up plan but I cant figure out how to keep the moisture out of one for many years. The idea about keeping it below the frost line was a great idea that I had not thought of. View Quote Why don't you think plastic guns will survive 30-40 years (as long as they are not stored in direct sunlight) ? |
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I think it's funny that you think any future federal ban would have grandfathering of existing weapons. They're not going to make that mistake again. Eventually the dems will be in power again and they'll have enough of a majority where they can do it without a filibuster. The republicans did it with abortion, there is no question in my mind dems will do it with guns as revenge.
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Quoted: Is there a gun that when it is 30 years old it is still going to be good? I think a AR or AK should survive time, Do you think the plastic guns(Glock,XD,M&P) from the last 20 years will survive to 30-40 years old? I see alot of guys saying that if it is time to bury them it is time to use them. What are you going to do if a team of guys show up for confiscation? 1 person cant take on a team unless you have been watching Rambo and staying at a holiday inn. I think having some buried in strategic location is a great back up plan but I cant figure out how to keep the moisture out of one for many years. The idea about keeping it below the frost line was a great idea that I had not thought of. View Quote ![]() people forget history so easily. First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me |
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I don't get it with this burying your guns in the dirt. No gun tree will grow. Guns aren't made to bury. They are made to shoot, defend yourself and family and defend America from tyranny. At least that's what I believe the 2nd amendment was written for and anyone who wants to disarm America are America's enemy for violating our protected rights. Just my .02 cents
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I don't know how someone would prepare for a law that isn't written yet. What's going to be banned, and will it be grandfathered? Is shit going to get confiscated?
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By training with other like minded folks to do what needs done.
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Quoted: [Sacasm] “The police would never take our guns, dEY oN OuR SiDE” [end sarcasm] View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: it's a 1st Amend restriction.. because EVENTUALLY, they will start red flagging Conservatives for talking ill the Left.. like if you make a thread here and say " Democrats are crazy.. I hate them" KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK... [Sacasm] “The police would never take our guns, dEY oN OuR SiDE” [end sarcasm] Shit, they're doing so many red flag gun confiscations in FL that some PDs have set up special units to handle them all. |
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I heard a 10.5 80% ar broken down, and a poly80 g26 along with mags and ammo for each will fit nicely in a 4 inch by 4 foot long pvc pipe.
Why you would want to do this I have no idea. |
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Quoted: I’m preparing by getting as much professional training as possible, buying ammo (though not for hoarding), training with like-minded individuals locally, and making sure my gear (e.g. armor, LBE, radio, drones, NV devices, thermal, etc.) is squared away. Also gotta remember batteries for all that shit. At the risk of sounding self-righteous, this is the only correct answer ![]() View Quote Exactly. The key part is networking and training with others. You, yourself, just 1 man in the context of military force, are nothing. Make friends. |
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With the versatility of the AR platform, I would thinking buying a bunch of lowers wouldn't be a priority. If anything, I would buy a few different upper/barrel configs that you could slap on your lower for different scenarios. I would also invest in a multiple quantities of each lower component, i.e. springs, detents, etc for long term maintenance and serviceability.
Maybe having a backup lower would be nice, but honestly, I wonder how long it would take for the physical lower itself to be unserviceable? I could see springs wearing out before the lower unit itself. Oh...and ammo...always ammo. |
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no worries, there will be a red wave come November, we take it all back
![]() ha, ha, jk, plus if you are just now stocking up on mags and ammo, you are quite late to the dance |
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If you can't afford to buy ARs and pistols for everyone in your family right now, start with lowers, 80% frames and mags.
Start taking advantage of all the July 4th holiday sales. |
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These are absolutely bizarre sets of questions for someone that's been here for nearly two decades.
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Quoted: What do you think the best way to prepare for future gun bans? Do you buy a bunch of Lowers ? Buy ton of magazines or ammo? What is the best way to bury a gun for long term storage in a area that get 4 seasons and lots of rain? View Quote Depends on if you have a strategy. Is the ban of some item (which we don't know yet exactly what is going to be banned) expected to be temporary in nature (1994 "Assault Weapons") or part of a trend of more restrictions on life? That determines the resistance strategy. In any case, measures which tend to support ammunition supply and manufacture would be my first priority - need to feed them, followed by ability to stockpile raw materials and manufacture. |
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If they insist on pushing federal gun control and our reps at that level are unwilling or unable to stop it, we'll have to work on creating state and local-level environments hostile to the enforcement of their overreach. Elect people who don't mind telling the feds to go to hell and will make their life enforcing their BS edicts difficult and we'll be in the best bad position we can be in at least.
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Quoted: If you have to bury it, you don't really own it. Stop thinking about how to cower under the boot and prepare yourself mentally to not comply. They don't have enough prisons to hold us all. View Quote |
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Quoted: I don't get it with this burying your guns in the dirt. No gun tree will grow. Guns aren't made to bury. They are made to shoot, defend yourself and family and defend America from tyranny. At least that's what I believe the 2nd amendment was written for and anyone who wants to disarm America are America's enemy for violating our protected rights. Just my .02 cents View Quote TC 31-29A, TM-31-201-1 and TM 31-210 are all good to have. https://armynavyoutdoors.com/free-digital-manuals/ |
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