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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:27:50 PM EDT
With the demise of the small domestic meth lab due to the cartels perfecting processing operations and economies of scale, why is the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 still on the books? No one is smurfing bronkaid to make meth anymore; thanks to the mexicans the drug is cheaper than it's ever been and available in higher purity than all but the most dedicated basement lab would ever be able to provide.
 Attached FileThe stupid law didn’t do squat anyway; you can see that in Missouri, lab busts went up after the passage of the law and never came back down until the cartels dominated the scene. So, honest question: Why is a law that never functioned to combat the problem for which it was created, and whose sole reason for existence is now gone, still on the books? |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:29:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:30:11 PM EDT
[#2]
Shut up, that's why.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:31:40 PM EDT
[#3]
Given a meth epidemic or fentanyl, I choose meth.
At least we can get some work out them before they die. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:31:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Because there is no 60 minutes episode of outrage that the law is still on the books.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:31:46 PM EDT
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Lol. You think laws and regulations are about solving problems? Laws and regulations are about control. Over you.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:34:17 PM EDT
[#6]
I was behind a smurfer years ago in a grocery store line. Nothing but sinus medicine. I totally knew what it was for.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:35:15 PM EDT
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At some point soon we are going to hit peak law capacity where everything is illegal.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:44:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: So, honest question: Why is a law that never functioned to combat the problem for which it was created, and whose sole reason for existence is now gone, still on the books? Better question... How many different laws fall into the category described above; both useless and obsolete? I bet the number is astronomical. Congress should be forced to do a complete audit of every law on the books before they can make any more new laws. They should be forced to delete five obsolete laws for every new law they want to pass. 
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:44:40 PM EDT
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Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues.
Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:44:54 PM EDT
[#10]
Laws never just go away.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:46:31 PM EDT
[#11]
I don’t know how much meth a single box of broc-aid makes but I’m on another list.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:50:37 PM EDT
[#12]
It’s another data point. They won’t easily give it up
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:51:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know how much meth a single box of broc-aid makes but I’m on another list. It’s not for sale where i live, so whenever i visit the States, I max out my allowable 9 grams/month to support my ECA stack regimen. I’m on a list. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:51:33 PM EDT
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Because there is no lobby or group pushing for it. Sheep have gotten use to showing id to get it.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:52:54 PM EDT
[#15]
People love their regulations.
Same reason you cant buy fireworks anymore in a lot of places. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:55:53 PM EDT
[#16]
I need the tripolodine HCL that's in the old Actifed formula. I really don't need the sudafed that's with it.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:56:03 PM EDT
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I often wondered why these methheads didn't just grow some Ephedra plants and get the real deal without being on any list or risking going to pharmacies.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:57:18 PM EDT
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That bronkaid stuff works really good on asthma in a pinch.. kinda the only thing that works over the counter... pretty handy.
Our government sucks dick... just snatch that away from people and disappear real pain medication for everyone, all in the name helping dopers.. Great idea assholes, the dopers are living in misery so you will too! |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:59:46 PM EDT
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I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here.
My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not for sale where i live, so whenever i visit the States, I max out my allowable 9 grams/month to support my ECA stack regimen. I’m on a list. @llanero That's exactly why I buy Primatene, for the ECA stack. It's awesome. If not for banning things what would the FUCKSTICKS in GOVT have to do? Their ony job is to destroy and punish. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:00:30 PM EDT
[#21]
I used to take ephedrine for road trips. I think it was yellow jacket or something.
Shit fucking worked. Way better than caffeine. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:00:36 PM EDT
[#22]
Does anyone do meth anymore? It’s all spike and Molly around here followed by heroin.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:00:43 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues. Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. I always keep a box on hand. I used to get sinus infections once a year but knowing how to treat a bad cold or allergies and blocked sinuses before an infection starts has prevented them for many years now. Usually I only need to take them one or two days so I can get saline mist up there and I’m good. Get over colds a lot quicker too. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:01:59 PM EDT
[#24]
I always ask for the Sudafed that can make meth at the pharmacy. If the law is stupid, I'm gonna make it audibly stupid.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:03:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here. My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:05:13 PM EDT
[#26]
The government is very good at spending money on solving problems that may or may not exist. The government almost never spends any money on seeing if anything they've done has actually made a difference.
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:09:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The government is very good at spending money on solving problems that may or may not exist. The government almost never spends any money on seeing if anything they've done has actually made a difference. I got codeine cough syrup once in my 20s when I had a bad cold. It was freaking magic. My dad said back in the day you could just ask the pharmacist for it. That makes sense to me, discretion keeps the licensed guy from giving you 87 gallons of codeine, regular people can get effective cough syrup. The addicts would find a way around it as they always do |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:17:29 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here. My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. Another absurd result of this absurd law: selling phenylphrine to do something that it literally does not do. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2015/10/26/the-popular-over-the-counter-cold-medicine-that-science-says-doesnt-work/amp/ |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:30:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. You think laws and regulations are about solving problems? Laws and regulations are about control. Over you. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:41:48 PM EDT
[#30]
In Washington you are put in their database using your drivers license and regulated as to how much you can buy.
Been going on for years in this great socialist disaster Pick up that can serf. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:52:05 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. You think laws and regulations are about solving problems? Laws and regulations are about control. Over you. |
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Posted: 2/5/2023 11:52:50 PM EDT
[#32]
They also fucked up inhalers in the name of the ozone or some shit... now you damn near rip your balls off trying to get a decent drag off one.
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Posted: 2/6/2023 12:00:18 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: With the demise of the small domestic meth lab due to the cartels perfecting processing operations and economies of scale, why is the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 still on the books? No one is smurfing bronkaid to make meth anymore; thanks to the mexicans the drug is cheaper than it's ever been and available in higher purity than all but the most dedicated basement lab would ever be able to provide. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25010/1DDEE856-0740-43F4-AA89-4EAEF77DF9CD_jpe-2700058.JPG The stupid law didn't do squat anyway; you can see that in Missouri, lab busts went up after the passage of the law and never came back down until the cartels dominated the scene. So, honest question: Why is a law that never functioned to combat the problem for which it was created, and whose sole reason for existence is now gone, still on the books? Control. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 12:04:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here. My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. Ah thanks, I did t know there was another kind. I always got Sudafed for allergies. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 12:16:19 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues. Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. This |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 12:19:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah thanks, I did t know there was another kind. I always got Sudafed for allergies. Please for the love of god, start reading fucking drug labels. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 12:26:49 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone do meth anymore? It’s all spike and Molly around here followed by heroin. You must have very classy addicts that are holding hard to old school junky stuff. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 1:31:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone do meth anymore? It's all spike and Molly around here followed by heroin. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 1:32:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shut up, that's why. This. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 1:45:30 AM EDT
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Need new smurfs
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Posted: 2/6/2023 1:48:02 AM EDT
[#41]
the government is very good at telling your family doctor what he can or cannot provide
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Posted: 2/6/2023 1:49:26 AM EDT
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There is nothing so permanent as a temporary government program.
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:20:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know how much meth a single box of broc-aid makes but I’m on another list. I'm under the impression that a good reaction yields around 80%. Calculate the amount of pseudo in each pill x the number of pills and you'll have an answer. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:30:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues. Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. Mine too: I only have one season to worry about, and it just runs from Jan 1st to Dec 31st |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:38:26 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is but it's not the same medicine and it doesn't do anything, it's phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. Yeah, SudafedPE is (and its clones are) useless. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:06:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Given a meth epidemic or fentanyl, I choose meth. At least we can get some work out them before they die. Stupid pick. Take the fentanyl every time. People on blues just keel over and nod off. Meth melts the brain, and you wind up with all sorts of craziness. Zombie attacks, fucking animals, setting things on fire, and generally being missionaries for the Chaos Gods from the Warp. Waaaay more methheads wind up needing shootin' during their antics than fentanyl addicts ever get up to. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:00:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stupid pick. Take the fentanyl every time. People on blues just keel over and nod off. Meth melts the brain, and you wind up with all sorts of craziness. Zombie attacks, fucking animals, setting things on fire, and generally being missionaries for the Chaos Gods from the Warp. Waaaay more methheads wind up needing shootin' during their antics than fentanyl addicts ever get up to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Given a meth epidemic or fentanyl, I choose meth. At least we can get some work out them before they die. Stupid pick. Take the fentanyl every time. People on blues just keel over and nod off. Meth melts the brain, and you wind up with all sorts of craziness. Zombie attacks, fucking animals, setting things on fire, and generally being missionaries for the Chaos Gods from the Warp. Waaaay more methheads wind up needing shootin' during their antics than fentanyl addicts ever get up to. Having managed restaurants in the past, I can say that methheads are among the group of workers i would never hire. I would do the job myself or close the doors before having to hire a methhead. Just too violent and unpredictable (except for the fact that they will, without fail, 100% of the time, every time, no exceptions, end up fucking you and the enterprise over). |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:45:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better question... How many different laws fall into the category described above; both useless and obsolete? I bet the number is astronomical. Congress should be forced to do a complete audit of every law on the books before they can make any more new laws. They should be forced to delete five obsolete laws for every new law they want to pass. Government has fucked up toilets, water heaters, air conditioners, gasohol, detergents, alkaline batteries, cold medicine, paint, paint strippers, adhesives, weed killers, light bulbs, just off the top of my head. And it’s never enough. The advocacy groups are always looking for the next fear fulcrum. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:54:09 AM EDT
[#49]
No one cares if laws work and you know it so why ask?
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Posted: 2/6/2023 11:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is but it's not the same medicine and it doesn't do anything, it's phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. |
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