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Originally Posted By Merlin: Put my Glock 23 up on a local board this morning. As soon as it sells - which hopefully will be soon - I'll be ordering a R1P or DPP, haven't really decided yet. I'm planning to buy the R1P direct from Sig, I don't see enough price difference to not. Best place for the DPP? Thanks! View Quote I got mine with the M18 when I traded my X-VTAC with R1P for it, so I couldn't tell you. I normally order from Primary Arms or PSA during sales. |
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Originally Posted By PN5X5: Have you seen Ben's video yet? He's dead on about the need to develop an index instead of relying on a technique. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-UTg_cB9qA View Quote Works for iron too. The gun either points where you are looking or it doesn't.. |
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Originally Posted By Merlin: Put my Glock 23 up on a local board this morning. As soon as it sells - which hopefully will be soon - I'll be ordering a R1P or DPP, haven't really decided yet. I'm planning to buy the R1P direct from Sig, I don't see enough price difference to not. Best place for the DPP? Thanks! View Quote I like buying from Kenzie’s Optics. But there are a ton f choices out there. |
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Originally Posted By Merlin: Put my Glock 23 up on a local board this morning. As soon as it sells - which hopefully will be soon - I'll be ordering a R1P or DPP, haven't really decided yet. I'm planning to buy the R1P direct from Sig, I don't see enough price difference to not. Best place for the DPP? Thanks! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Merlin: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: DPP is a good optic. I somewhat concur on the electonics issues, I had a first gen and occasionally it would just shut off on me. Other than that it did run reliably for about 11K rounds on a slide ride 9mm. I ended up selling it for cheap just because I figured I should get rid of it before it died permanently. No experience with gen 2 but I know a few guys running it that like it just fine and no problems. I've got 6k on my second gen and it's been perfect. Also, it's my EDC. Originally Posted By Merlin: According to Sig, the Romeo2 and RomeoX will also fit the R1P and DPP interface: https://www.sigsauer.com/romeo-x.html https://www.sigsauer.com/romeo2-1x30-mm.html Doesn't help a bunch since they're a bit more expensive. Neat. I'm planning to buy the R1P direct from Sig, I don't see enough price difference to not. Best place for the DPP? Thanks! Check Proven Outfitters they are normally very good on sig stuff price wise. I like the R1P no it’s not a RMR durability wise but it serves a ton of people everyday. It’s also extremely clear with a generous window. |
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Originally Posted By Merlin: It will be for my commercial M18, which is already optic-ready. Stock pic: https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.24b4c39711a01053af97c06bbabf83b9?rik=qXmm%2fxfHdSbxsQ&pid=ImgRaw&r=0 According to Sig, the Romeo1 Pro and Delta Point Pro fit it. I*assume* the Sig M17 (optic sight) will also fit; but at +$850, that isn't happening. I don't know what the M17/M18 pistol optic mounting standard is other than R1P or DPP. I know there is at least four of them. View Quote The Romeo M17 will not fit a commercial M17/18. The bolt pattern is different between the commercial M17/18 and the Mil-spec pistols |
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Someone give it to me straight, do I go 407K-X2 or EPS Carry 6MOA for a Walther PPS M2? |
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Originally Posted By Merlin: Well that makes the decision pretty simple! Thanks for the info, I appreciate it! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/B926BC70-2451-4EC1-A889-3A3C070B9F9D-404.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Merlin: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Merlin: I'm not interested in adapters. Good to know about the M17 optic; makes me feel less of a cheapskate. Then your only option is the Romeo1 Pro with the shield and the Deltapoint Pro. I went DPP but make sure you get a second gen. The first gen had garbage electronics. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/M18_jpg-2966333.JPG Thanks for the info, I appreciate it! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/B926BC70-2451-4EC1-A889-3A3C070B9F9D-404.gif Don't sleep on using a Holosun SCS 320, direct fit even on an M18, enclosed, RMR-ish in window size. There's also the RomeoX Pro if you're not fussed about enclosed emitters, it's a solid optic. Another option, EOTECH's EFLX is a direct fit on the M18. Decent price point, great glass, window size and emitter, questionable durability but solid warranty. Last but not least, a filler plate (not to be confused with a mounting plate) opens up the option of RMS-c/Holosun K-footprint optics (that includes the enclosed EPS lineup). It's still direct screw mount to the slide using the DPP holes, the plate just fills the gaps fore and aft. Here's one of my 320's with a CHPWS filler plate and the full-size EPS. |
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Originally Posted By Croak: Don't sleep on using a Holosun SCS 320, direct fit even on an M18, enclosed, RMR-ish in window size. There's also the RomeoX Pro if you're not fussed about enclosed emitters, it's a solid optic. Another option, EOTECH's EFLX is a direct fit on the M18. Decent price point, great glass, window size and emitter, questionable durability but solid warranty. Last but not least, a filler plate (not to be confused with a mounting plate) opens up the option of RMS-c/Holosun K-footprint optics (that includes the enclosed EPS lineup). It's still direct screw mount to the slide using the DPP holes, the plate just fills the gaps fore and aft. Here's one of my 320's with a CHPWS filler plate and the full-size EPS. https://imgur.com/UW3eJSt.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Croak: Originally Posted By Merlin: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Merlin: I'm not interested in adapters. Good to know about the M17 optic; makes me feel less of a cheapskate. Then your only option is the Romeo1 Pro with the shield and the Deltapoint Pro. I went DPP but make sure you get a second gen. The first gen had garbage electronics. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/M18_jpg-2966333.JPG Thanks for the info, I appreciate it! /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/B926BC70-2451-4EC1-A889-3A3C070B9F9D-404.gif Don't sleep on using a Holosun SCS 320, direct fit even on an M18, enclosed, RMR-ish in window size. There's also the RomeoX Pro if you're not fussed about enclosed emitters, it's a solid optic. Another option, EOTECH's EFLX is a direct fit on the M18. Decent price point, great glass, window size and emitter, questionable durability but solid warranty. Last but not least, a filler plate (not to be confused with a mounting plate) opens up the option of RMS-c/Holosun K-footprint optics (that includes the enclosed EPS lineup). It's still direct screw mount to the slide using the DPP holes, the plate just fills the gaps fore and aft. Here's one of my 320's with a CHPWS filler plate and the full-size EPS. https://imgur.com/UW3eJSt.jpg Oh and the gun: |
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I’ve decided to red dot all the things but need an inexpensive option to get a Glock slide milled. I don’t need cool guy serrations or cerakote otherwise I’d just send it to Maple Leaf but $180+ is a bit steep for this gun.
Who is the go to for an optics cut and no refinish? |
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Originally Posted By laxman09: Are you getting it milled? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By laxman09: Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER: 95 pages is a lot of pages and aintnobodygottimeforthat.gif Someone give it to me straight, do I go 407K-X2 or EPS Carry 6MOA for a Walther PPS M2? Are you getting it milled? Yes. Milled and nitrided. |
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Originally Posted By Mblades: I’ve decided to red dot all the things but need an inexpensive option to get a Glock slide milled. I don’t need cool guy serrations or cerakote otherwise I’d just send it to Maple Leaf but $180+ is a bit steep for this gun. Who is the go to for an optics cut and no refinish? View Quote Stonebridge Gunworks. |
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Believe it or not, CHPWS has very reasonable milling prices and a decent 2-3 week turnaround time.
I had a PDP 1.0 converted to 2.0 and then the entire slide Cerakoted for like $120 all in, and that included me shipping to them, and them doing the slide disassembly/reassembly (I'm not lazy and a PDP slide is easy to tear down, I just figured if there were tolerance issues with the Ceracoating, they'd fix it then and there). Turned out great, back inside 3 weeks. They even used Loctite on the front sight when they reinstalled it. :) Optic cut on a non-optic is a bit higher at $99 before options. |
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Originally Posted By Croak: Believe it or not, CHPWS has very reasonable milling prices and a decent 2-3 week turnaround time. I had a PDP 1.0 converted to 2.0 and then the entire slide Cerakoted for like $120 all in, and that included me shipping to them, and them doing the slide disassembly/reassembly (I'm not lazy and a PDP slide is easy to tear down, I just figured if there were tolerance issues with the Ceracoating, they'd fix it then and there). Turned out great, back inside 3 weeks. They even used Loctite on the front sight when they reinstalled it. :) Optic cut on a non-optic is a bit higher at $99 before options. View Quote CHPWS quoted me 2-3 weeks, finished in over 9, lied three times for the reason it was taking so long and sent it back with no loctite and barely hand-tight after saying they'd loctite the screws. YMMV |
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Battlewerx is the best.
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Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
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Originally Posted By Mblades: I’ve decided to red dot all the things but need an inexpensive option to get a Glock slide milled. I don’t need cool guy serrations or cerakote otherwise I’d just send it to Maple Leaf but $180+ is a bit steep for this gun. Who is the go to for an optics cut and no refinish? View Quote Jagerwerks, Primary Machine, Danger Close Armament among others do good work |
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I wouldn’t let CHPWS mill my kid’s nerf gun.
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It took CHPWS over a year to mill my slide. They claimed it was my fault for not answering calls and emails that they never made or sent. They needed to know what kind of cut I wanted on my slide, even though I plainly ordered the exact cut I wanted. The automated email confirmation very plainly stated that the order was for a 1911 slide with a Holosun 507K cut. They needed to know if I wanted a Holosun K, Shield RMS, or Trijicon RMRcc cut.
My next 1911 slide went to Green Tick Tactical, and he did take longer than quoted, but that was due to the refinishing and was still far less than a year. Cut also came out perfect. |
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I just snagged an SRO for my Langdon'ed 92x
/edit Notional 92x, if I owned guns |
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Originally Posted By PN5X5: Pay particular attention to one thing that Ben mentioned about shooters not grabbing and gripping the gun the same way every time. You can work all of this out during dry fire and I've found that it works itself out within the first month or so. I've seen the same issues with guys moving to LPVOs from red dots where they don't mount and grip the gun the same way every time so they wonder why they see scope shadow sometimes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PN5X5: Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Yeah, I ran across it and watched it. I'm having moments where it clicks and feels completely smooth and natural. Draw and it goes where I'm looking. Still not confident enough with it to carry but getting there. I can definitely see why some people give up on red dots if they aren't willing to put in the time. I can also see the benefits and they're worth it to me. Pay particular attention to one thing that Ben mentioned about shooters not grabbing and gripping the gun the same way every time. You can work all of this out during dry fire and I've found that it works itself out within the first month or so. I've seen the same issues with guys moving to LPVOs from red dots where they don't mount and grip the gun the same way every time so they wonder why they see scope shadow sometimes. I think a combination of occasional grip inconsistencies and shifts of focus from target to trying to find the dot in the optic are the issues that are causing me to not be 100% confident in my presentation yet. I'm just about there though. First cold draw from concealment of a morning with no warmup is pretty consistently on target now using a light switch across the room as an aiming point. |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: I think a combination of occasional grip inconsistencies and shifts of focus from target to trying to find the dot in the optic are the issues that are causing me to not be 100% confident in my presentation yet. I'm just about there though. First cold draw from concealment of a morning with no warmup is pretty consistently on target now using a light switch across the room as an aiming point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Originally Posted By PN5X5: Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Yeah, I ran across it and watched it. I'm having moments where it clicks and feels completely smooth and natural. Draw and it goes where I'm looking. Still not confident enough with it to carry but getting there. I can definitely see why some people give up on red dots if they aren't willing to put in the time. I can also see the benefits and they're worth it to me. Pay particular attention to one thing that Ben mentioned about shooters not grabbing and gripping the gun the same way every time. You can work all of this out during dry fire and I've found that it works itself out within the first month or so. I've seen the same issues with guys moving to LPVOs from red dots where they don't mount and grip the gun the same way every time so they wonder why they see scope shadow sometimes. I think a combination of occasional grip inconsistencies and shifts of focus from target to trying to find the dot in the optic are the issues that are causing me to not be 100% confident in my presentation yet. I'm just about there though. First cold draw from concealment of a morning with no warmup is pretty consistently on target now using a light switch across the room as an aiming point. You shouldn’t be shifting focus away from the target. Don’t look at the dot. Focus on the target, move the dot over your preferred POI, pull trigger |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Jagerwerks, Primary Machine, Danger Close Armament among others do good work View Quote Jagerwerks did my first RDS mill/ceracoat while I was on a deployment. My wife actually handled everything and they were very helpful to her, especially since she wasn't as familiar with what was happening. They patiently answered her questions when she asked. They did a really good job and got it back quickly. |
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Originally Posted By laxman09: Post pics when done. I love my PPS M2 but the lack of optic cut and capacity killed it once I got a P365. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By laxman09: Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER: Yes. Milled and nitrided. Post pics when done. I love my PPS M2 but the lack of optic cut and capacity killed it once I got a P365. It might be a while, I think CHPWS is the only name in town that mills Walther slides and I’m kind of put off with all the negative reviews they’ve been getting. I carry appendix and the striker indicator at the back of the slide is one of the main reasons I picked the Walther over something like the G43X. Are there any other shops able to mill Walther slides, specifically the PPS M2? |
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Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER: It might be a while, I think CHPWS is the only name in town that mills Walther slides and I'm kind of put off with all the negative reviews they've been getting. I carry appendix and the striker indicator at the back of the slide is one of the main reasons I picked the Walther over something like the G43X. Are there any other shops able to mill Walther slides, specifically the PPS M2? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER: Originally Posted By laxman09: Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER: Yes. Milled and nitrided. Post pics when done. I love my PPS M2 but the lack of optic cut and capacity killed it once I got a P365. It might be a while, I think CHPWS is the only name in town that mills Walther slides and I'm kind of put off with all the negative reviews they've been getting. I carry appendix and the striker indicator at the back of the slide is one of the main reasons I picked the Walther over something like the G43X. Are there any other shops able to mill Walther slides, specifically the PPS M2? |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: You shouldn’t be shifting focus away from the target. Don’t look at the dot. Focus on the target, move the dot over your preferred POI, pull trigger View Quote I don't think I worded that very well. I'm not shifting focus on purpose, it just happens occasionally still. I'm trying to train that away along with my occasional grip inconsistencies. I will say, drifire practice with a red dot really helps make problems glaringly obvious. Seems like a great training tool along with the shooting speed/accuracy benefits. I started down this road in no hurry and knew it would take time and dedication to get it figured out. I've read about people on here buying a pistol and dot and then selling them off after a couple of range trips because they're "faster with irons." I think anyone who hasn't dedicated at least a month or two of daily drifire before giving up on red dots is doing themselves a great disservice. |
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Originally Posted By sparky-kb: I don't think I worded that very well. I'm not shifting focus on purpose, it just happens occasionally still. I'm trying to train that away along with my occasional grip inconsistencies. I will say, drifire practice with a red dot really helps make problems glaringly obvious. Seems like a great training tool along with the shooting speed/accuracy benefits. I started down this road in no hurry and knew it would take time and dedication to get it figured out. I've read about people on here buying a pistol and dot and then selling them off after a couple of range trips because they're "faster with irons." I think anyone who hasn't dedicated at least a month or two of daily drifire before giving up on red dots is doing themselves a great disservice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Originally Posted By Rudukai13: You shouldn’t be shifting focus away from the target. Don’t look at the dot. Focus on the target, move the dot over your preferred POI, pull trigger I don't think I worded that very well. I'm not shifting focus on purpose, it just happens occasionally still. I'm trying to train that away along with my occasional grip inconsistencies. I will say, drifire practice with a red dot really helps make problems glaringly obvious. Seems like a great training tool along with the shooting speed/accuracy benefits. I started down this road in no hurry and knew it would take time and dedication to get it figured out. I've read about people on here buying a pistol and dot and then selling them off after a couple of range trips because they're "faster with irons." I think anyone who hasn't dedicated at least a month or two of daily drifire before giving up on red dots is doing themselves a great disservice. I had issues with doing the same the painters tape trick showed to me by Sig at the optics instructor course coupled with moving and shooting drills solidified its end. ETA: meaning covering the front of the optic to force target focus |
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If you don’t want to put tape on the front of your optic, you can get one of these:
https://opticgard.com/ |
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT: $100 rebate on RMR type 2! https://rapid-rebates.com/TrijiconReflexRebate View Quote Yup, came looking to see who has the best deals on RMR right now. From the rebate: Buy a new Trijicon® RMR or MRO between October 1st, 2023 and December 31st, 2023 and receive up to a $100 rebate check via mail. Select models only: All models of Trijicon RMR Adjustable LED, Trijicon RMR Automatic LED, and Trijicon RMR Dual Defense Kit. All models of Trijicon MRO Red Dot Reflex Sight, Trijicon MRO Patrol Red Dot Sight, and Trijicon MRO Green Dot Reflex Sight. Excluded Models: All Trijicon Dual-Illuminated RMRs, Trijicon ACOG/RMR Combos, Trijicon RMRcc, Trijicon RMR HD, Trijicon RCR, Trijicon MRO HD, and Trijicon 3X Magnifier. |
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Originally Posted By chevellemrwl: Yup, came looking to see who has the best deals on RMR right now. From the rebate: Buy a new Trijicon® RMR or MRO between October 1st, 2023 and December 31st, 2023 and receive up to a $100 rebate check via mail. Select models only: All models of Trijicon RMR Adjustable LED, Trijicon RMR Automatic LED, and Trijicon RMR Dual Defense Kit. All models of Trijicon MRO Red Dot Reflex Sight, Trijicon MRO Patrol Red Dot Sight, and Trijicon MRO Green Dot Reflex Sight. Excluded Models: All Trijicon Dual-Illuminated RMRs, Trijicon ACOG/RMR Combos, Trijicon RMRcc, Trijicon RMR HD, Trijicon RCR, Trijicon MRO HD, and Trijicon 3X Magnifier. View Quote Nothing about the SRO? |
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Spruced up the old girl. I still need to send the pl350 for update but this is gonna be my winter carry. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371613/IMG_4083-2979559.jpg View Quote Looks like a nice gun! This isn’t directed at you personally, but I really don’t get the point of putting the shortest comp possible on a gun that’s also got the longest WML bezel on the market attached to the rail. Why not get a longer more effective comp since it won’t increase the pistol’s OAL anyway |
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Got the gun, got the Forward Controls plate............now I just need to find a Trijicon RMR HD in stock, preferably in 3.5 MOA
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"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Gonna be a while View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By cyclone: Got the gun, got the Forward Controls plate............now I just need to find a Trijicon RMR HD in stock, preferably in 3.5 MOA Gonna be a while Yeah, got my email on every notification list there is |
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Originally Posted By sierra-def: Can't wait to see it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By cyclone: Got the gun, got the Forward Controls plate............now I just need to find a Trijicon RMR HD in stock, preferably in 3.5 MOA Can't wait to see it. HK VP9...............will also get a weapons light and next year a can |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Looks like a nice gun! This isn’t directed at you personally, but I really don’t get the point of putting the shortest comp possible on a gun that’s also got the longest WML bezel on the market attached to the rail. Why not get a longer more effective comp since it won’t increase the pistol’s OAL anyway View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Spruced up the old girl. I still need to send the pl350 for update but this is gonna be my winter carry. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371613/IMG_4083-2979559.jpg Looks like a nice gun! This isn’t directed at you personally, but I really don’t get the point of putting the shortest comp possible on a gun that’s also got the longest WML bezel on the market attached to the rail. Why not get a longer more effective comp since it won’t increase the pistol’s OAL anyway Its dimensionally with the comp a G17, so it fits in my g17 holsters. |
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Its dimensionally with the comp a G17, so it fits in my g17 holsters. View Quote Holster fitment is why I removed my comp. It wouldn't work with an M17-sized Safariland and my M18 with comp. Before Attached File After Attached File |
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Holster fitment is why I removed my comp. It wouldn't work with an M17-sized Safariland and my M18 with comp. Before https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/20221009_120559_jpg-2980459.JPG After https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/20230729_142353_jpg-2980460.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Its dimensionally with the comp a G17, so it fits in my g17 holsters. Holster fitment is why I removed my comp. It wouldn't work with an M17-sized Safariland and my M18 with comp. Before https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/20221009_120559_jpg-2980459.JPG After https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/523928/20230729_142353_jpg-2980460.JPG Take the plug out. I run the longer Herrington XL comp just fine in a Safariland, 6 series and 7 series. |
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Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Looks like a nice gun! This isn’t directed at you personally, but I really don’t get the point of putting the shortest comp possible on a gun that’s also got the longest WML bezel on the market attached to the rail. Why not get a longer more effective comp since it won’t increase the pistol’s OAL anyway View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By NorCalRT: Spruced up the old girl. I still need to send the pl350 for update but this is gonna be my winter carry. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/371613/IMG_4083-2979559.jpg Looks like a nice gun! This isn’t directed at you personally, but I really don’t get the point of putting the shortest comp possible on a gun that’s also got the longest WML bezel on the market attached to the rail. Why not get a longer more effective comp since it won’t increase the pistol’s OAL anyway Can’t speak for everyone but one of the benefits I see to a longer light then slide combo is the fact it offers some stand off for close retention work to have less of a chance of out of battery failure. You also have the versatility in a shorter configuration you wouldn’t necessarily have in a longer. I could see having a TLR-7 and a TLR-1 for instance but only having the shorter comp. Would allow for more comfortable carrying then a G34 length gun if you wanted to slap the TLR-7 on and carry appendix for instance or you could run the TLR1 and have a better light for HD/Duty use while always having the benefits of the comp. |
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Originally Posted By Croak: Take the plug out. I run the longer Herrington XL comp just fine in a Safariland, 6 series and 7 series. https://imgur.com/EYq1Xop.jpg https://imgur.com/q6fno8r.jpg https://imgur.com/OQq6UoI.jpg View Quote I did. It still doesn't fit and locks the gun out of battery if you try and force it. Attached File This is an exaggerated pic. I'll get a couple better ones... ETA: Without comp in an M17-compatible Safariland Attached File Without barrel plugs and with comp. I had to force it in and now it's stuck. Which was the problem before. It was not locking in with the comp. Attached File Attached File |
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