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Posted: 4/12/2019 9:10:57 PM EDT

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looks kind'a like someone melted Darth Vader's helmet in the microwave...

Posted: 4/12/2019 9:19:31 PM EDT

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Does the Conquest TSI or Starion meet OP criteria?

Buddy in school had a GLH, he smoked my EXP with ease.

Posted: 4/12/2019 9:54:53 PM EDT

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My first car was a 1984 Toyota tercel SR5 2-door, 1.6l engine, 5 speed.

Weighed nothing, handled well, and would drive for thousands of miles straight through with no complaint. The a/c did take about 20% of the engine power, though, so I'd switch it off when I need to scoot.

Got $500 for a trade when I bought a Ranger in 1991.

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:35:13 PM EDT

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the GLH and the EXP would

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:37:32 PM EDT

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1991 Nissan NX2000 | Retro Review

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Posted: 4/12/2019 10:47:20 PM EDT

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Nissan 200sx turbo qualify? Loved mine for 5 or so years then replaced it with a SE-R. Good times back then.

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id say that the 200sx and the NX2000 are right on the border, the 200sx is RWD though and more expensive, hmm idk

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:50:53 PM EDT

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updated OP with a perfect vid

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:55:48 PM EDT

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LOL...Does my 1957 Nash Metropolitan count? 1425 pounds in weight and 52 screaming HP!

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That thing rocks.
I would so drive that before any of the pieces of garbage posted in this thread.
I'd have to have a Churchill round hat for the rest drive.

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:57:03 PM EDT

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Fun cars to beat like you fucking stole them. Use the gas pedal like an on/off switch. If you were moving, they were floored - even when the clutch pedal was down

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:57:03 PM EDT

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when i saw the thread title, i immediately thought of the toyota MR2.

i still want one of those.

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:57:26 PM EDT

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I do know that if you were accustomed to holding the handle up to lock like on the Jap cars you could smash the fuck out of your fingers closing the door on those Geo Storms.

Posted: 4/12/2019 10:59:51 PM EDT

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The GLH (Goes Like Hell) was one hell of a fun car. A buddy of mine ripped about 4 transmissions out of his.

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:00:25 PM EDT

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That thing rocks.
I would so drive that before any of the pieces of garbage posted in this thread.
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My first car was a red and white '59 Nash Metropolitan.....Young women just loved it.

Like this one.....My Uncle worked for a Rambler dealer in town and sold it to me cheap.

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:01:24 PM EDT

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Fun cars to beat like you fucking stole them. Use the gas pedal like an on/off switch. If you were moving, they were floored - even when the clutch pedal was down

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It’s the analogy from motorcycling. It’s more fun to ride a low bike fast than a fast bike slow. True, in cars and bikes.

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:02:01 PM EDT

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Great cars, I have one in the garage.

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:04:06 PM EDT

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My dad is a tv repair man, he's got this ultimate set of tools, i can fix it

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Posted: 4/12/2019 11:05:56 PM EDT

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My first car was a red and white '59 Nash Metropolitan.....Young women just loved it.

Like this one.....My Uncle worked for a Rambler dealer in town and sold it to me cheap.

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i always liked its humble looks but the little guy was out of place in the era of big steel and tailfins, it almost seemed ... Japanese, to me, or perhaps vice versa must be said.

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:08:57 PM EDT

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Back when my SHO was the "Titanic".

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:12:09 PM EDT

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AMG A35!

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:38:27 PM EDT

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Nissan 200sx turbo qualify? Loved mine for 5 or so years then replaced it with a SE-R. Good times back then.

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Ah yeah, reminds me of the early sentra SER and the little infinity G20.

Posted: 4/12/2019 11:47:57 PM EDT

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Previous to the NX was the pulsar NX se with the ca16de. Flip up headlights, T tops, 5 speed and 122 horsepower.

Pulsar NX:

Posted: 4/13/2019 12:52:56 AM EDT

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Yeah they did quietly sneak Fiestas in for another year, but I believe 2019 will be the last.

However that doesn't change the fact that they really didn't sell too many of them, even if they are a great amount of fun to drive. Ford released that it was about 10% of total Fiesta sales a year or so back, meaning there is around 27k of them in total over the five years they have been for sale. That's not a very promising number to bring up to a board meeting when proposing similar cars.

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Yeah they did quietly sneak Fiestas in for another year, but I believe 2019 will be the last.

However that doesn't change the fact that they really didn't sell too many of them, even if they are a great amount of fun to drive. Ford released that it was about 10% of total Fiesta sales a year or so back, meaning there is around 27k of them in total over the five years they have been for sale. That's not a very promising number to bring up to a board meeting when proposing similar cars.

if they didn't sell many of them, that means people don't want them. If people wanted them they would make a shit ton of them. That's why you don't see these tiny cars the pony is talking about.

Posted: 4/13/2019 8:09:38 AM EDT

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i always liked its humble looks but the little guy was out of place in the era of big steel and tailfins, it almost seemed ... Japanese, to me, or perhaps vice versa must be said.

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My first car was a red and white '59 Nash Metropolitan.....Young women just loved it.

Like this one.....My Uncle worked for a Rambler dealer in town and sold it to me cheap.

https://cdn.barrett-jackson.com/staging/carlist/items/Fullsize/Cars/177276/177276_Front_3-4_Web.JPG

i always liked its humble looks but the little guy was out of place in the era of big steel and tailfins, it almost seemed ... Japanese, to me, or perhaps vice versa must be said.

https://assets.hemmings.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//2016/03/20150325_03_01_s.jpg

Crosley tried to provide more for less at a scale even Nash wouldn't (made bank with radios but he also produced refrigerators like Nash.). Light with sportish intentions, overall low owner cost being the goal - it's what he did. CoBra engine was radical, advanced and pretty much ill suited for a road car. It was never durable and required inordinate levels of maintenance. Think Aprilia S/RXV but worse. It weighed like 60 pounds.

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My grandfather worked with him and became friends. He hugely admired his efforts to bring affordability to consumers - he'd speak about him often 20-30 years after Crosley died. "He was a great man, did great things for the public (consumer), but the car, the car...I don't understand. It's almost as if he hated people secretly and this was his revenge."

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:08:35 AM EDT

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when i saw the thread title, i immediately thought of the toyota MR2.

i still want one of those.

Great cars, I have one in the garage.

10 or 20?

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:15:13 AM EDT

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when i saw the thread title, i immediately thought of the toyota MR2.

i still want one of those.

Great cars, I have one in the garage.

10 or 20?

Eh? AW11.

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:19:26 AM EDT

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But in the end, it's still just a Kia.

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:33:59 AM EDT

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Neat, kinda crazy they managed to fit a 2 L in that small thing, that has to be one cramped engine bay

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Vw uses a lot of engine bay dimension sharing to cut down on costs, probably not much more cramped in there than a gti.

However, if I could have one from the sub compact range in gti trim it would have been the lupo.

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:34:05 AM EDT

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Eh? AW11.

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when i saw the thread title, i immediately thought of the toyota MR2.

i still want one of those.

Great cars, I have one in the garage.

10 or 20?

Eh? AW11.

By that I'll take it's a first gen 1.6 - AW11 is a specific chassis code, all first Gens were W10, second W20 - Spyder/MRS W30

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:37:24 AM EDT

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It’s the analogy from motorcycling. It’s more fun to ride a low bike fast than a fast bike slow. True, in cars and bikes.

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Fun cars to beat like you fucking stole them. Use the gas pedal like an on/off switch. If you were moving, they were floored - even when the clutch pedal was down

It’s the analogy from motorcycling. It’s more fun to ride a low bike fast than a fast bike slow. True, in cars and bikes.

I think that is why I have such a blast running my Miata. Power on/power off, and so easy to feed power in tight corners.

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:49:42 AM EDT

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There are other options on the market as mentioned prior.

What I miss is the basic mini trucks. Esp 4 cyl stick shift models

Toyota SR5 Pickup
Mazda B2000
Nissan Pickup XE (before Frontier)

Even the old Ford Ranger and Chevy mini S-10

My Nissan XE just got put out to pasture for parts, blew the head gasket @ 336,### Miles Replaced the water pump @ 220,###. It went through several brake jobs and maybe 4 batteries but was still on the original Alternator.

I need to replace it, but there isn't a suitable new option. Older vehicles, the owners want to hold on to them for the same reason so used prices are high when they can be found in great shape.

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I had one of those. Great truck. Not powerful or fast, but you couldn't kill them and they would go anywhere.

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I traded mine for a Jeep TJ, which was also great, but I still miss the Nissan. If I could buy one just like it in like new condition, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.

Posted: 4/13/2019 9:54:52 AM EDT

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Remember the King Midget?

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:05:11 AM EDT

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The Conquest/Starion is a legitimate sports car,not a sporty sub-compact.

Consumer tastes as crash test standards have made cars swell but people swelling in size over the last 30 years is what made especially Americans choose SUVs and CUVs as default vehicles. My BMW E30 was a family car in the 80s,by modern standards it's tiny;it's absolutely dwarfed by a new Camaro.

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:19:42 AM EDT

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Vw uses a lot of engine bay dimension sharing to cut down on costs, probably not much more cramped in there than a gti.

However, if I could have one from the sub compact range in gti trim it would have been the lupo.

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Vroom vroom

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:36:17 AM EDT

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By that I'll take it's a first gen 1.6 - AW11 is a specific chassis code, all first Gens were W10, second W20 - Spyder/MRS W30

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when i saw the thread title, i immediately thought of the toyota MR2.

i still want one of those.

Great cars, I have one in the garage.

10 or 20?

Eh? AW11.

By that I'll take it's a first gen 1.6 - AW11 is a specific chassis code, all first Gens were W10, second W20 - Spyder/MRS W30

Ahh, always just heard AW11, SW20, and MRS.

The AW11 is the wife’s favorite, I’ll eventually pick up an SW20 for myself. The wife’s will get a JDM silvertop 20v at some point down the line too.

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:46:19 AM EDT

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Ahh, always just heard AW11, SW20, and MRS.

The AW11 is the wife’s favorite, I’ll eventually pick up an SW20 for myself. The wife’s will get a JDM silvertop 20v at some point down the line too.

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The Spyder is the most under-rated MR2. Yes it's goofy looking from all but 1 angle and yes it was stupidity to put such a lousy engine in it but for driving dynamics,it's a better car. One on decent suspension and sticky tires is stupid fun.

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:47:34 AM EDT

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Those things sucked ass.

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:55:17 AM EDT

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Miata

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:56:01 AM EDT

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Well, it's a cheap Nissan, so.

Posted: 4/13/2019 10:57:22 AM EDT

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The 1991-94 Sentra SE-R's were a peppy little car. Small, light, quick and fun to drive. A lot of people never knew about them but the ones who did loved them.

Posted: 4/13/2019 11:01:23 AM EDT

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The Spyder is the most under-rated MR2. Yes it's goofy looking from all but 1 angle and yes it was stupidity to put such a lousy engine in it but for driving dynamics,it's a better car. One on decent suspension and sticky tires is stupid fun.

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Ahh, always just heard AW11, SW20, and MRS.

The AW11 is the wife’s favorite, I’ll eventually pick up an SW20 for myself. The wife’s will get a JDM silvertop 20v at some point down the line too.

The Spyder is the most under-rated MR2. Yes it's goofy looking from all but 1 angle and yes it was stupidity to put such a lousy engine in it but for driving dynamics,it's a better car. One on decent suspension and sticky tires is stupid fun.

But it’s like driving a Miata. Give up all pretense of testosterone when you cross the door sill.

Posted: 4/13/2019 11:10:33 AM EDT

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Ahh, always just heard AW11, SW20, and MRS.

The AW11 is the wife's favorite, I'll eventually pick up an SW20 for myself. The wife's will get a JDM silvertop 20v at some point down the line too.

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Yea being in Japan thought you might have a AW10 (1.5). There SW20 and 21.

Posted: 4/13/2019 11:10:48 AM EDT

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I bought a 1992 Acura GSR off the lot for 12.5k right after graduating HS and going the Amry. It was right before the Clinton era import taxes on Japanese cars.

It was a hell of a car and fast as all hell for what it was.

It lasted me a long time before a guy side swiped me and totalled it.

I miss that car.

Posted: 4/13/2019 11:50:40 AM EDT

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Don't forget the VW stuff. The Sirocco and its successor the Corrado. I kinda miss mine, it was a good car. This is the day before the car shipper folks showed up and hauled it to it's new owner in Illinois. It had 297,000 miles on it when I sold it.
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I had a 78 Scirocco. Slow as hell, but so much fun to drive!