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Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:07:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FCSD2162:

Besides banning saps, tasers are one of the worst things to ever happen to LE.
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Really, I'd have too much fun until I got fired.  

Yeah, you want more if that?

BBZZZZTT

Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:08:12 PM EDT
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that, but in french.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Who's the first one?
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Google CEO

Sundar Pichai
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:08:34 PM EDT
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It is dependent on the range of adjustment you have on the scope.
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Hmmm, scope is 110 MOA elevation per the website, so that gives me 55 MOA I think with a 0 mount?

I need to leave this thread and actually research some long range shooting, plenty of time to figure things out before next fall thankfully.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:09:16 PM EDT
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Sundar Pichai - Google  CEO

Jack Dorsey - Twitter

Zuckerburg - FB
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:10:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:10:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:

I updated last , about days of <$186/per are probably long gone.
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Originally Posted By AZNetEng:
Interesting. I could have scored you an 8# keg at the gun show for 199.00 but delivery charges... I still need a shipping address too.

I updated last , about days of <$186/per are probably long gone.
One of the local places had 8# kegs of pistol powders for $186 a couple weeks ago. Win231 and Titegroup, but no rifle powder.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:10:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:

the real answer to that question is to do the math.  find out how much elevation travel your optic's erector has leftover assuming you zero near the middle (unless you zero near the bottom) -- either way - how much elevation is available to you with the 20 MOA added in?  Then get out your ballistic calculator for the load you're actually shooting and see if you have enough to dial to get you to the longest distance you expect to be shooting?  If not, will your holdovers make up for it?   If not, by how much?  That's how much you're going to need in your mount.  

That being said -- you're fine and yes, buy a 0 MOA mount.   the 20moa integral is more than enough for normal hunting distances.  Guys that are playing out around 1,000y and beyond might want to go to 30 or 40moa on their rails combined .   I think my current 6.5 build has a 30moa integral if I remember correctly  and I've never bought anything but 0-moa mounts.    Frankly the only guys I know that buy angled mounts are those doing EXTREME long distance.


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Jesus, I apparently need to re-learn math!
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:12:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By evo7011:

Hmmm, scope is 110 MOA elevation per the website, so that gives me 55 MOA I think with a 0 mount?

I need to leave this thread and actually research some long range shooting, plenty of time to figure things out before next fall thankfully.
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Which scope?
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:12:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZNetEng:
One of the local places had 8# kegs of pistol powders for $186 a couple weeks ago. Win231 and Titegroup, but no rifle powder.
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Titegroup is the only thing I did right the first time.  I'm good.  For life.  On titegroup.  Lol
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:12:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By evo7011:

Jesus, I apparently need to re-learn math!
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No, you had it -- I just didn't explain it well.  
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Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:13:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:

the real answer to that question is to do the math.  find out how much elevation travel your optic's erector has leftover assuming you zero near the middle (unless you zero near the bottom) -- either way - how much elevation is available to you with the 20 MOA added in?  Then get out your ballistic calculator for the load you're actually shooting and see if you have enough to dial to get you to the longest distance you expect to be shooting?  If not, will your holdovers make up for it?   If not, by how much?  That's how much you're going to need in your mount.  

That being said -- you're fine and yes, buy a 0 MOA mount.   the 20moa integral is more than enough for normal hunting distances.  Guys that are playing out around 1,000y and beyond might want to go to 30 or 40moa on their rails combined .   I think my current 6.5 build has a 30moa integral if I remember correctly  and I've never bought anything but 0-moa mounts.    Frankly the only guys I know that buy angled mounts are those doing EXTREME long distance.


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I've go 20 on my M24 rings, but that's because they were on the Leopould MK 4 I scored at the last gunshow.



Ironically, my best shooting (2nd place in State 7 or 8 years ago) at the State 1k yd championship, I did with a 3.5X BDC scope on my ZfK55. 188 out of 200.




Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:14:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillyDBerger:

None of the agencies where I am are doing it.
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Originally Posted By AZNetEng:
It isn't just inner city LEO either. State Police are doing it, Metro departments are doing it. About the only departments I DON'T see doing troubling things are rural departments, and who is to say that it's just because they haven't had to choose yet.

None of the agencies where I am are doing it.
I'm glad to hear that.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:14:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zach_:


No fun factor involved??
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If I ever use it I will make national news.   Elementary school kid tased...
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:15:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Win1300:


Which scope?
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https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/nx8/nx8-25-20x50-f1

It's going on a hunting rifle that I'm having built.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:15:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FCSD2162:

Besides banning saps, tasers are one of the worst things to ever happen to LE.
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I have seen some crazy motherfuckers get a moment of clarity when the taser comes out.  I have also seen it do JACK FUCKING SHIT.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:16:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FCSD2162:

Besides banning saps, tasers are one of the worst things to ever happen to LE.
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Originally Posted By FCSD2162:
Originally Posted By BillyDBerger:

Just found out we are getting Tasers at work.  More heavy shit to carry.

Besides banning saps, tasers are one of the worst things to ever happen to LE.

saps??
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:17:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:



I've go 20 on my M24 rings, but that's because they were on the Leopould MK 4 I scored at the last gunshow.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/IMG_3109_JPG-1619896.jpg

Ironically, my best shooting (2nd place in State 7 or 8 years ago) at the State 1k yd championship, I did with a 3.5X BDC scope on my ZfK55. 188 out of 200.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/30294.JPG


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That's awesome!
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:18:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:



I've go 20 on my M24 rings, but that's because they were on the Leopould MK 4 I scored at the last gunshow.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/IMG_3109_JPG-1619896.jpg

Ironically, my best shooting (2nd place in State 7 or 8 years ago) at the State 1k yd championship, I did with a 3.5X BDC scope on my ZfK55. 188 out of 200.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/30294.JPG


https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/30295.JPG
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damn my eyes....3.5x aint' gonna cut it for me @ 1k.   Granted too much magnification means more mirage, but I'm gonna need 10x just to have accountability for the target
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:18:53 PM EDT
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We need to contact our representatives and elected officials and remind them that we still have the right to vote them out... oh wait
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:18:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:



Really, I'd have too much fun until I got fired.  

Yeah, you want more if that?

BBZZZZTT

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Originally Posted By elcope:
Originally Posted By FCSD2162:

Besides banning saps, tasers are one of the worst things to ever happen to LE.



Really, I'd have too much fun until I got fired.  

Yeah, you want more if that?

BBZZZZTT

https://media.giphy.com/media/12efYxeql9fWFO/giphy.gif


Well, funny you should mention that. Before we got in trouble, we had parties. And during those parties, we would be drinking. A lot. Seems that alcohol reduces your inhibitions; and we would bring out the tasers. See where I'm going with this? That shit got shut down with the quickness when we had to go ask for new cartridges at roll call. But FCSD2162, you might ask, why didn't you just drive stun? Too drunk to remove the cartridges. The laser on the taser did all the work.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:20:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By evo7011:

https://www.nightforceoptics.com/riflescopes/nx8/nx8-25-20x50-f1

It's going on a hunting rifle that I'm having built.
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No first hand experience but from others who own them Nightforce makes very, very nice optics.  Best of luck with the build.  Which reticle?
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:21:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FCSD2162:


Well, funny you should mention that. Before we got in trouble, we had parties. And during those parties, we would be drinking. A lot. Seems that alcohol reduces your inhibitions; and we would bring out the tasers. See where I'm going with this? That shit got shut down with the quickness when we had to go ask for new cartridges at roll call. But FCSD2162, you might ask, why didn't you just drive stun? Too drunk to remove the cartridges. The laser on the taser did all the work.
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Originally Posted By FCSD2162:
Originally Posted By elcope:
Originally Posted By FCSD2162:

Besides banning saps, tasers are one of the worst things to ever happen to LE.



Really, I'd have too much fun until I got fired.  

Yeah, you want more if that?

BBZZZZTT

https://media.giphy.com/media/12efYxeql9fWFO/giphy.gif


Well, funny you should mention that. Before we got in trouble, we had parties. And during those parties, we would be drinking. A lot. Seems that alcohol reduces your inhibitions; and we would bring out the tasers. See where I'm going with this? That shit got shut down with the quickness when we had to go ask for new cartridges at roll call. But FCSD2162, you might ask, why didn't you just drive stun? Too drunk to remove the cartridges. The laser on the taser did all the work.


If you drink enough they seem to lose some of their effectiveness
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:22:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:24:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pugz:
From the election thread.

https://parler.com/post/01edfa8a7df44804a824273372a33f8e


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Is it so bad in this county, I was expecting him to steal it?

God bless him and the USA!
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:25:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillyDBerger:

I have seen some crazy motherfuckers get a moment of clarity when the taser comes out.  I have also seen it do JACK FUCKING SHIT.
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Oh, no doubt. But it's more shit to carry, and something else that opens you up to frivolous complaints and lawsuits. Plus, I have a hard enough time remembering the use of force continuum as it is.

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Leather, lead-filled skull crackers. Changed an asshole's channel really fast.



Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:27:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hiyaboa:


If you drink enough they seem to lose some of their effectiveness
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Originally Posted By FCSD2162:
Originally Posted By elcope:
Originally Posted By FCSD2162:

Besides banning saps, tasers are one of the worst things to ever happen to LE.



Really, I'd have too much fun until I got fired.  

Yeah, you want more if that?

BBZZZZTT

https://media.giphy.com/media/12efYxeql9fWFO/giphy.gif


Well, funny you should mention that. Before we got in trouble, we had parties. And during those parties, we would be drinking. A lot. Seems that alcohol reduces your inhibitions; and we would bring out the tasers. See where I'm going with this? That shit got shut down with the quickness when we had to go ask for new cartridges at roll call. But FCSD2162, you might ask, why didn't you just drive stun? Too drunk to remove the cartridges. The laser on the taser did all the work.


If you drink enough they seem to lose some of their effectiveness

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Or PCP. Definitely doesn't work when you're on PCP. Or a lot of coke. Or.............
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:27:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Win1300:


No first hand experience but from others who own them Nightforce makes very, very nice optics.  Best of luck with the build.  Which reticle?
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TREMOR 3
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:28:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:

damn my eyes....3.5x aint' gonna cut it for me @ 1k.   Granted too much magnification means more mirage, but I'm gonna need 10x just to have accountability for the target
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It's fine at 1K.

NRA 1K aiming black is 6 MOA. ZfK-55 aiming post?

Also 6 MOA Just set the golf ball on the Tee and you're good.



Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:32:02 PM EDT
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I knew if we left the lights on it would bring you back to RT home.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:38:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By evo7011:

Hmmm, scope is 110 MOA elevation per the website, so that gives me 55 MOA I think with a 0 mount?

I need to leave this thread and actually research some long range shooting, plenty of time to figure things out before next fall thankfully.
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55+the 20MOA from the rail.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:38:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:41:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:



It's fine at 1K.

NRA 1K aiming black is 6 MOA. ZfK-55 aiming post?

Also 6 MOA Just set the golf ball on the Tee and you're good.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/22763.JPG

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Is that 1k in that pic??  looks closer
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:44:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:



I've go 20 on my M24 rings, but that's because they were on the Leopould MK 4 I scored at the last gunshow.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/IMG_3109_JPG-1619896.jpg

Ironically, my best shooting (2nd place in State 7 or 8 years ago) at the State 1k yd championship, I did with a 3.5X BDC scope on my ZfK55. 188 out of 200.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/3446/30294.JPG


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That's bad ass
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:47:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:

Is that 1k in that pic??  looks closer
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No, just 100 but Highpower aiming blacks are 6 MOA at all ranges.

Here's 1K at that range.

ETA: See those trees to the right?  When shooting at 1K your bullet arc will be at the top of those trees.

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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:



I knew if we left the lights on it would bring you back to RT home.
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I really need to stop watching Collin Furze. He gives me fun ideas.


That and he puts music in from bands that send him music. Much of the time the bands don't suck.


HUGE Trebuchet/Catapult Tested to Destruction

Link Posted: 12/17/2020 9:52:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By elcope:


No, just 100 but Highpower aiming blacks are 6 MOA at all ranges.

Here's 1K at that range.

ETA: See those trees to the right?  When shooting at 1K your bullet arc will be at the top of those trees.

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that looks nice!
here's a 'naked eye' view from my line
we have another berm at 400y that was put in after this photo was done
target pits at 200, 300, and 600.
not shown in the pic is a separate 100-y range, and all the pistol bays.

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lol, nice.

You inspired me.

Link Posted: 12/17/2020 10:01:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:
https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2020/12/unauthorized-access-of-fireeye-red-team-tools.html

A state-sponsored adversary stole FireEye Red Team tools, so we are releasing hundreds of countermeasures to ensure the security community is protected.


https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2020/12/evasive-attacker-leverages-solarwinds-supply-chain-compromises-with-sunburst-backdoor.html

We have discovered a global intrusion campaign, and we are tracking the actors behind this campaign as UNC2452.

https://www.volexity.com/blog/2020/12/14/dark-halo-leverages-solarwinds-compromise-to-breach-organizations/


https://www.volexity.com/blog/2020/12/16/responding-to-the-solarwinds-breach/

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So I've got to ask tis question.... if FireEye had a Red Team that made tools to penetrate their own product, WHY IN THE BLUE FUCK WOULD THEY NOT FIX THE FUCKING HOLES THE TOOLS EXPLOITED IN THEIR OWN PRODUCT???????!!!!???1  That's the whole point of a Red Team... to find holes and seal them, not to find holes then do nothing about them.

IMO, the .gov and any company that bought their stuff has a business ending, executives living in cardboard boxes under a bridge level class action suit against that company.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 10:02:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter:
that looks nice!
here's a 'naked eye' view from my line
we have another berm at 400y that was put in after this photo was done
target pits at 200, 300, and 600.
not shown in the pic is a separate 100-y range, and all the pistol bays.
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Is that the secret LA county range you were bragging about?

It looks nice too.

The one I was shooting at is near Missoula about 3hrs south of me.

For highpower weekends, I'll drag the camper down and shoot CMP pistol, NRA Highpower, CMP service rifle leg match and 1K all over Memorial day weekend.
Link Posted: 12/17/2020 10:03:08 PM EDT
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lol, nice.

You inspired me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTvx61Pgew8
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lol, nice.

You inspired me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTvx61Pgew8
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