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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:16:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1-Ed: What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed It’s a warning shot that isn’t a warning shot for purposes of any LEO encounters. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:17:01 PM EST
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Talk about savage truth!
Link Wonder how many residences were attacked by looters, or common thieves using riots as cover last night... |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:17:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1-Ed: What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Same. This dude is confused as shit. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:17:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryLook at all them black white supremacist  .
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:17:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris: FIFY Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris: Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: None of this shit will ever get solved FIFY You are not wrong to edit that. I have nothing politically correct to add. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:19:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: If I am in fear for my life and those of my loved ones I will use the most effective tool at my disposal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By Radian: Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By Carpangler: Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By Jagrmaister: Rocking that D60 no less.  The Twitter comments are disturbing. They want him locked up for defending his friends and neighborhood? California is so lost it’s never coming back. If the mob had beaten the homeowners, destroyed the vehicles parked in the driveway and torched the house, if someone had decided to arrest them, they would likely be looking at less time then the resident is for daring to deter a rioting mob with a firearm. We may find out, I would bet there will be retaliation against those residents.  What happens when “buck fever” sets in on a home owner protecting his property and decides he’s not going to jail or leaving his family and his post? We may have that answer soon. First pull of the the trigger is the expensive one, rest are basically free. Don't use a weapon that will mark you as bad. Use the tools of the enemy so the damage can't be discerned. IE if they are throwing molotovs well gas has never been cheaper. Improvise and don't forget a fire extinguisher. If I am in fear for my life and those of my loved ones I will use the most effective tool at my disposal. Even though its perfectly legal to say more, I won't. The most effective weapon isn't a rifle on the first pass. a little improvisation goes a very long way. people dealing with a problem like being on fire or overpressure may be easier to shoot anyway. common items with lifting charges coupled with common accelerant both in use by rioters make very effective deterrent / distracting tools. know your enemy, know his weapons, use them against him in ways that make events unclear but outcomes work in your favor. I'll stress point 2, if you may be in proximity to any of this a fire extinguisher (or several) would be good to bring. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:19:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Look at all them black white supremacist .They’re obviously magamen in full body blackface |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:19:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disparcher91: I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. IDK about all that. I just face shoot a fucker. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:20:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPN: And when Antifa steps up to using guns (where have their friends, the John Brown Gun Club, been?), the news media and the usual crowd in government will be pushing for their gun control wish list. The question is whether or not the public will go along with it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: They were talking on the news last night about some encrypted app they were using. "Only law enforcement and military should be able to use encryption." FBI will lead the charge, "public opinion" polls and news media will follow up with a saturation campaign. And when Antifa steps up to using guns (where have their friends, the John Brown Gun Club, been?), the news media and the usual crowd in government will be pushing for their gun control wish list. The question is whether or not the public will go along with it. People who think sheep will turn into something else are delusional. Sheep crave safety, and will give up everything else in exchange .................. but they still won't be safe. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:20:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frostburg: Well he'd better! I live in Washington, D.C. and my gf works in Bethesda, but lives in Silver Spring, MD. Protesters are about to kick shit off in Bethesda. I am heading over in a few minutes to get all my AR15 mags loaded and prepped. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frostburg: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By Frostburg: Wtf. Police are getting shot. My gf had to rush home from work early because protests are coming to her work neighborhood. When will the president deploy the military to end this shit? Very soon! Well he'd better! I live in Washington, D.C. and my gf works in Bethesda, but lives in Silver Spring, MD. Protesters are about to kick shit off in Bethesda. I am heading over in a few minutes to get all my AR15 mags loaded and prepped. I live in dc in the Georgetown area. I’m out of town right now taking care of family, but coming back soon to pack up some stuff and return back to where I’m staying. I’m playing for keeps and will not go looking for any trouble. If it comes to me, I will deal with it one way or another. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:20:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bullyforyou: Someone is hanging up BLM signs out in my little town in western Maine, and I'm not anywhere near a real city. Those are Bureau Of Land Management dude.. 😃 |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:21:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullyforyou: I saw them visiting mid coast a while back along with gun control cunts on the corner. The BLM part is funny since there is pretty much no ghetto up there (well not black ghetto). Someone is hanging up BLM signs out in my little town in western Maine, and I'm not anywhere near a real city. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bullyforyou: Originally Posted By shadycoh: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Next step is looting and pillaging of suburbs. It’s coming. good hope it comes to my suburb although I do not have much faith as I am 30 miles from Austin Tx and them sissy soy boys have yet to grow a set. Even on Sat/Sunday the chants just sounded like meek mice compared to other cities. I saw them visiting mid coast a while back along with gun control cunts on the corner. The BLM part is funny since there is pretty much no ghetto up there (well not black ghetto). Someone is hanging up BLM signs out in my little town in western Maine, and I'm not anywhere near a real city. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:21:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: The hardcores are not scared by the presence of a firearm. Might scare away the trust fund Antifa cosplayers but not some banger from Rialto. Not the first gun he has had pointed in his general direction, won't be the last either (unless....) The real hardcores aren't scared by a warning shot either. They might go for cover, they might return fire, they might rush you but they likely won't turn tail and run. Point it... use it. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:21:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: I'm defending my property from inside. Which can include shooting attempted arsonists outside. No need to run outside or stick the muzzle out the window or door to do it. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:23:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: disparcher91]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1-Ed: What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot  @M1-Ed |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:23:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: I didn't catch the address but somewhere in San Diego a guy threw a chair through the front window of a house, entered and beat the homeowner over the head with a vase. Suspect described as a hispanic male, shaved head, facial tattoos. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By GreasyEasy: GANG MEMBER CHASING PEOPLE IN THE STREETS you can't make this shit up I didn't catch the address but somewhere in San Diego a guy threw a chair through the front window of a house, entered and beat the homeowner over the head with a vase. Suspect described as a hispanic male, shaved head, facial tattoos. Sad as this crap may be, it's going to wake more people up to the importance of the 2A and being able to defend themselves. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:23:54 PM EST
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I’m surprised some of these limp dicked mayors and governors haven’t been relieve of their positions through some votes of no confidence or extra judicial means.
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:24:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Psmith: @wyomingnick Thinking out loud along these lines, is it possible that, given that white leftists are instigating, and are generally mobile via vehicle, but rely on inner city residents to organically perpetrate most of the large scale destruction (i.e., footsoldiers) In situ, it may be difficult or impossible to get the footsoldiers out to the burbs? They (leftists) May very well carpool the mobs to residential areas. We have seen enough buses and support cars full of bats, milk, med kits and riot equipment, even video of cars driving by legitimate protesters and handing out bricks from the cars, And no, I am not trying to get anyone started on the “pre-positioned stacks of bricks”. We have wasted way too many pages on that. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:24:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HunterCat: There's been quite a few instances of the police going after the press during this and not assisting them when they're attacked by agitators. The police are clearly very angry at them and it makes you wonder why. If you watched the George Floyd video, it certainly doesn't like Chauvin's first rodeo to me. Also, he was perfectly aware that his actions were being recorded. Seems to me that he was very confident that the video would never see the light of day. Is it possible that the politicians and press acted together to sacrifice this officer in order to kick this off? Plandemic is winding down so now let's implement Act II? I think he didn't realize George would die. If he lived it wouldn't have gone anywhere. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:25:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Enzo300: I'll have a go, buddy. First, do we know that George knew the $20 that he passed was phony? If so, then yes, he was stealing. Stealing and looting are definitely different though. Looting implies smashing, grabbing, force, violence. It's not a fine distinction. And if George just made $20 from thin air and foisted it on a citizen, he's a piker compared to the Fed. The Govt gives an insane level of protection to currency, considering how badly THEY abuse it. If a shop owner is inside of his store, legally armed, then I would consider anyone breaching a closed store destructively to be a threat to life, just like a home invader, and I would absolutely defend my life in that situation and rightfully expect protection FROM the law, especially since he is without protection OF the law. Now the video I saw of the store owner driving up, pulling a shotgun from his back seat, and firing upon the fleeing looters that were damaging his store? That'd be murder. Much as anyone thinks they have it coming, shooting a fleeing thief in the back who poses no threat to life, is and should be, murder. We gotta get something for our tax money. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:25:45 PM EST
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If this ramps up how how long before they start going after electrical grid or local substations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/29/2001861964/-1/-1/0/T_GRIFFITH_STRATEGIC_ATTACK.PDF |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:26:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: I live in dc in the Georgetown area. I’m out of town right now taking care of family, but coming back soon to pack up some stuff and return back to where I’m staying. I’m playing for keeps and will not go looking for any trouble. If it comes to me, I will deal with it one way or another. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Originally Posted By Frostburg: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By Frostburg: Wtf. Police are getting shot. My gf had to rush home from work early because protests are coming to her work neighborhood. When will the president deploy the military to end this shit? Very soon! Well he'd better! I live in Washington, D.C. and my gf works in Bethesda, but lives in Silver Spring, MD. Protesters are about to kick shit off in Bethesda. I am heading over in a few minutes to get all my AR15 mags loaded and prepped. I live in dc in the Georgetown area. I’m out of town right now taking care of family, but coming back soon to pack up some stuff and return back to where I’m staying. I’m playing for keeps and will not go looking for any trouble. If it comes to me, I will deal with it one way or another.
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:26:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Radian: Even though its perfectly legal to say more, I won't. The most effective weapon isn't a rifle on the first pass. a little improvisation goes a very long way. people dealing with a problem like being on fire or overpressure may be easier to shoot anyway. common items with lifting charges coupled with common accelerant both in use by rioters make very effective deterrent / distracting tools. know your enemy, know his weapons, use them against him in ways that make events unclear but outcomes work in your favor. I'll stress point 2, if you may be in proximity to any of this a fire extinguisher (or several) would be good to bring. Layered defense is best. Mutual support with neighbors watching out. Controlled access in. Make your neighborhood hard. Single point access. At night get some lights up to blind their vision. Get your roofs ready for cocktails. Hoses ready and sprinklers on if you have them. Dogs are good. Cars stacked on roadways at alternating parking angles creates a cordon. Hurricane shutters can help the glass from getting crushed. Fire bottles ready to put out the fire. DONT EXPECT LEO support. When they come, be ready. Defend what’s yours. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:26:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1057:
Studies show police are less inclined to shoot blacks, and when you account for the number of police each group kill, police are really more likely to kill whites with less risk. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:26:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disparcher91: I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. Did they train you on shooting mortars? Thats the only way anything that you are saying makes sense. If it was rifles or pistols someone was lying to you and you should get a refund on your "training" |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:26:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBentz: Same. This dude is confused as shit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBentz: Originally Posted By M1-Ed: What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Same. This dude is confused as shit. It’s cool guys. He self-identifies as a WWII battleship. Catch these 18-inch guns 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:27:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By homeyclaus: It's a hell of a thing, shooting a man. You take everything he has, and everything he'll ever get. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:27:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vic_Crown: Having worked riots in UK, I was perplexed seeing US cops allowing "protesters" behind them on many occasions as far as I could see on media footage. I feared an attack from behind was only a matter of time. And it has happened in the city in which I live. We are right out on the NW suburbs in a decent area BUT to be honest, I am concerned. Since I moved here, I have carried a 9mm 24/7. And a 12ga in the trunk. The AR is now going to be ready 24/7. And the AR pistol might be added to trunk 12ga. I sure picked an interesting year to immigrate to USA ! Just consider it our version of an Indian mutiny 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:27:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ErikInAZ: Talk about savage truth! Link Wonder how many residences were attacked by looters, or common thieves using riots as cover last night... Quote from sheriff on a shooting a few years ago; “ "I suspect the only reason 110 rounds was all that was fired was that's all the ammunition they had," Judd said. "We were not going to take any chance of him shooting back." |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:27:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: More talking heads talking about George Floyd's "good christian works" and "the values that George Floyd believed in" JFC - was that before or after the home invasion / attempted kidnapping and attempted murder? smh Did he actually attempt murder? Do we know what happened there? I didn't hear of attempt at kidnapping or murder, was it someone he knew or a random target? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:28:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: This is the dumbest list I've ever seen. The vast majority of those "traitors" merely commented on the Floyd situation or expressed support for protesters not any violence or rioting. And, most of the support came BEFORE things devolved into the current shitshow of Antifa and urban looting. Prove it white knight. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:28:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Studies show police are less inclined to shoot blacks, and when you account for the number of police each group kill, police are really more likely to kill whites with less risk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By 1057:
Studies show police are less inclined to shoot blacks, and when you account for the number of police each group kill, police are really more likely to kill whites with less risk. Probably more cops killed because of that then black people who are injured or killed by police in questionable circumstances. Hesitation can be fatal. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:29:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ErikInAZ: They (leftists) May very well carpool the mobs to residential areas. We have seen enough buses and support cars full of bats, milk, med kits and riot equipment, even video of cars driving by legitimate protesters and handing out bricks from the cars, And no, I am not trying to get anyone started on the “pre-positioned stacks of bricks”. We have wasted way too many pages on that. Time to attack their logistic bases. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:29:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockZen: If this ramps up how how long before they start going after electrical grid or local substations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/29/2001861964/-1/-1/0/T_GRIFFITH_STRATEGIC_ATTACK.PDF Been thinking about this for a few days now. If this is truly a well-coordinated event then stuff like this has to be a part of the next phase. I remember those transformers being taken out like they were yesterday. Utilities have made progress in physically securing their infrastructure, but it won't be much help in areas in which LE is otherwise occupied and the rioters have free reign to do whatever they need/want to do. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:29:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Studies show police are less inclined to shoot blacks, and when you account for the number of police each group kill, police are really more likely to kill whites with less risk. Yep. More per captita whites are killed than blacks. When thats brought up the "youre not black so you will never understand" comes out. Yet you cant say "well you arent white so I guess you will never understand". |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:29:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GlockZen: If this ramps up how how long before they start going after electrical grid or local substations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/29/2001861964/-1/-1/0/T_GRIFFITH_STRATEGIC_ATTACK.PDF When they perceive they are losing. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:30:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: It's a jump to a conclusion partially supported by the history of both our nation in general and that cop in particular. Is Chauvin a racist? That's hard to prove 100%. But some of the signs are there. Honest questions: How can a white officer assigned to a shithole black neighborhood not become somewhat racist? How can a black officer assigned to a white methhead neighborhood not become somewhat racist? It is not so much ingrained hate as it is "this group of folks are subhuman trash, and I do not like them, and they all have this same skin color so I associate that with them." |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:30:57 PM EST
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Serbia Stronk played on Chicago Police radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGljMbtz6d4&feature=emb_logo |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:32:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Radian: Even though its perfectly legal to say more, I won't. The most effective weapon isn't a rifle on the first pass. a little improvisation goes a very long way. people dealing with a problem like being on fire or overpressure may be easier to shoot anyway. common items with lifting charges coupled with common accelerant both in use by rioters make very effective deterrent / distracting tools. know your enemy, know his weapons, use them against him in ways that make events unclear but outcomes work in your favor. I'll stress point 2, if you may be in proximity to any of this a fire extinguisher (or several) would be good to bring. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Radian: Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By Radian: Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By Carpangler: Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By Jagrmaister: Rocking that D60 no less. The Twitter comments are disturbing. They want him locked up for defending his friends and neighborhood? California is so lost it’s never coming back. If the mob had beaten the homeowners, destroyed the vehicles parked in the driveway and torched the house, if someone had decided to arrest them, they would likely be looking at less time then the resident is for daring to deter a rioting mob with a firearm. We may find out, I would bet there will be retaliation against those residents. What happens when “buck fever” sets in on a home owner protecting his property and decides he’s not going to jail or leaving his family and his post? We may have that answer soon. First pull of the the trigger is the expensive one, rest are basically free. Don't use a weapon that will mark you as bad. Use the tools of the enemy so the damage can't be discerned. IE if they are throwing molotovs well gas has never been cheaper. Improvise and don't forget a fire extinguisher. If I am in fear for my life and those of my loved ones I will use the most effective tool at my disposal. Even though its perfectly legal to say more, I won't. The most effective weapon isn't a rifle on the first pass. a little improvisation goes a very long way. people dealing with a problem like being on fire or overpressure may be easier to shoot anyway. common items with lifting charges coupled with common accelerant both in use by rioters make very effective deterrent / distracting tools. know your enemy, know his weapons, use them against him in ways that make events unclear but outcomes work in your favor. I'll stress point 2, if you may be in proximity to any of this a fire extinguisher (or several) would be good to bring. So you are saying my 2 gallon pump sprayer full of 99% alcohol, collection of road flares and fireworks is a good idea? (I don't really have any of this stuff)Wonder what the crowd reaction would be when a bunch of folks start doing the funky chicken because of invisible flames Sigh, guess this is where I reference my sig line again.
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:32:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spartacus2002: not all heroes wear capes That is the type of shit I want to see. I have at least 6 or 7 Trump stickers that could be used in that manner. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:32:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Him: The more I think about this question and the silly comparison with passing a counterfeit bill, the more I think the answer is "Yes, I do think rioters and looters and rioters should be shot dead on the spot, and city trucks sent around every morning to pick up the carcasses and haul them to the dump." We gotta get something for our tax money. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By Enzo300: I'll have a go, buddy. First, do we know that George knew the $20 that he passed was phony? If so, then yes, he was stealing. Stealing and looting are definitely different though. Looting implies smashing, grabbing, force, violence. It's not a fine distinction. And if George just made $20 from thin air and foisted it on a citizen, he's a piker compared to the Fed. The Govt gives an insane level of protection to currency, considering how badly THEY abuse it. If a shop owner is inside of his store, legally armed, then I would consider anyone breaching a closed store destructively to be a threat to life, just like a home invader, and I would absolutely defend my life in that situation and rightfully expect protection FROM the law, especially since he is without protection OF the law. Now the video I saw of the store owner driving up, pulling a shotgun from his back seat, and firing upon the fleeing looters that were damaging his store? That'd be murder. Much as anyone thinks they have it coming, shooting a fleeing thief in the back who poses no threat to life, is and should be, murder. We gotta get something for our tax money. Like when the bad guys have a shoot out with the popo and call "mercy" when they run out of bullets. Just because someone starts shit should not give them the right to dictate its ending time. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:33:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Enzo300: They're learning that the juice in the first trailer, ain't worth the "squeeze". When pulling pups, the first trailer is almost always the heavy trailer. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:34:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disparcher91: Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot @M1-Ed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot @M1-Ed When I was in the Danish army, when you were on guard duty, you were REQUIRED to fire a warning shot before shooting someone. Sergeants would remind the troops to always remember to fire a second shot into the ground after you shot someone, so you could claim that a warning shot was fired first.
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:34:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: Hollywood_Shooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Did he actually attempt murder? Do we know what happened there? I didn't hear of attempt at kidnapping or murder, was it someone he knew or a random target? Yeah - I don't know the actual 'charges' and might have over sold that --- What I read was that after breaking into a home he forced the woman to another room at gun point -- that's my understanding of the definition of kidnapping (?) -- I assume he wasn't there to show her his new pistol so the threat of death is implied -- Regardless of the actual charges and result -- he certainly should not be painted as Saint George. That's patently false. eta: and pretty sure his arrest record was posted earlier in either this thread or maybe the original one from before the riots -- couldn't even guess what page it was
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:34:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guntrk: Prove it white knight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guntrk: Originally Posted By RainierV: This is the dumbest list I've ever seen. The vast majority of those "traitors" merely commented on the Floyd situation or expressed support for protesters not any violence or rioting. And, most of the support came BEFORE things devolved into the current shitshow of Antifa and urban looting. Prove it white knight. I don't have to prove shit. Read the list yourself. That's what I did. I'm not the one making the claim those people are traitors. If you agree with it, you get to provide evidence because you two are the ones claiming it is true. The evidence provided is largely links to generic tweets saying "George Floyd's death was bad. We support people questioning the events that occurred" and shit like that. Definite Benedict Arnold conduct. 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:34:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jman1984]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By compulynx: Honest questions: How can a white officer assigned to a shithole black neighborhood not become somewhat racist? How can a black officer assigned to a white methhead neighborhood not become somewhat racist? It is not so much ingrained hate as it is "this group of folks are subhuman trash, and I do not like them, and they all have this same skin color so I associate that with them." I dont think you can as white person. As for blacks ive never met one as far I know that isnt already racist in some way already so I don't know about that. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:34:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Him: The sheep will, and it looks as if the sheep outnumber the rest of us. People who think sheep will turn into something else are delusional. Sheep crave safety, and will give up everything else in exchange .................. but they still won't be safe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: They were talking on the news last night about some encrypted app they were using. "Only law enforcement and military should be able to use encryption." FBI will lead the charge, "public opinion" polls and news media will follow up with a saturation campaign. And when Antifa steps up to using guns (where have their friends, the John Brown Gun Club, been?), the news media and the usual crowd in government will be pushing for their gun control wish list. The question is whether or not the public will go along with it. People who think sheep will turn into something else are delusional. Sheep crave safety, and will give up everything else in exchange .................. but they still won't be safe. I think this is the correct take. History is full of nations that subjected themselves to heavy handed government out of fear. Security is almost always chosen over Liberty. The story of America's Independence and first 200 or so years is the exception, not the norm. When the dust settles from this shit show, we're going to get more government. Things may stabilize this week, or there may be a period of anarchy and chaos, but when it's over, the American people will subject themselves to whatever flavor of government is in place. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:34:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guntrk: Prove it white knight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guntrk: Originally Posted By RainierV: This is the dumbest list I've ever seen. The vast majority of those "traitors" merely commented on the Floyd situation or expressed support for protesters not any violence or rioting. And, most of the support came BEFORE things devolved into the current shitshow of Antifa and urban looting. Prove it white knight. Lol, that response was unnecessary. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:35:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunner226: So it appears most of us are in agreement that the cop who killed the guy who was fighting with him after the cop tried to arrest him for trying to steal from a business (by using counterfeit money) should hang for murder. But we're ALSO mostly condoning or outright advocating for the idea that shop owners are totally justified in killing anybody who tries to steal from or damage their business during the riot. Is there a contradiction here, or is it just me? It seems like at least with the cop situation, there was an attempt to follow due process before the bad guy fought that process and then the cop overstepped and negligently killed him. In the riot situation there is no attempt at due process - we just skip right to the killin'. At the end of both scenarios, someone died because they tried to steal stuff. Before anyone starts with the "passing counterfeit money isn't the same as looting" argument, would you be okay with the cop's actions if Floyd had done a smash-n-grab instead? The cop's actions should be wrong no matter what the offense was, correct? I still hold the cop was over the line, and it *seems* like shop owners should be able to defend their stores, but I'm having a hard time making a logical argument why the cop's actions should be murder, but the shop owner's wouldn't be. Whether it is a shop owner or a home owner, when invaded by rioters and looters in today’s reality, the owner is facing being beaten to death simply for saying “no, this is mine”. So defending against looters with lethal force is not just defense of property, but of your very life. That is why it isn’t murder. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:35:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 13starsinax: I was told less than a month ago by the TV that if these "kids" are not going to public schools they will not be fed. All of these "kids" I am watching over the last week look very well fed. A while back someone posted a video here of a woman complaining that she had to use her money to feed her kids and now she doesn't have enough money left to buy weed, and the weed man won't give credit, so now what was she supposed to do?
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