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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:35:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCIN: Did they train you on shooting mortars? Thats the only way anything that you are saying makes sense. If it was rifles or pistols someone was lying to you and you should get a refund on your "training" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCIN: Originally Posted By disparcher91: I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. Did they train you on shooting mortars? Thats the only way anything that you are saying makes sense. If it was rifles or pistols someone was lying to you and you should get a refund on your "training" 11B to 11C to 11B again.  M1-Ed picked up on that too. @JCIN |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:35:46 PM EST
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They should release the next COD on Xbox right now. That will clear the little heathens off the streets.
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:36:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Him: The sheep will, and it looks as if the sheep outnumber the rest of us. People who think sheep will turn into something else are delusional. Sheep crave safety, and will give up everything else in exchange .................. but they still won't be safe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: They were talking on the news last night about some encrypted app they were using. "Only law enforcement and military should be able to use encryption." FBI will lead the charge, "public opinion" polls and news media will follow up with a saturation campaign. And when Antifa steps up to using guns (where have their friends, the John Brown Gun Club, been?), the news media and the usual crowd in government will be pushing for their gun control wish list. The question is whether or not the public will go along with it. People who think sheep will turn into something else are delusional. Sheep crave safety, and will give up everything else in exchange .................. but they still won't be safe. The sheep seek shelter from the wolves from the bear. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:36:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SIASL: The only way this will end is if names are named starting from the top down. Given the widespread acceptance I don't know that even that will bring it to an end. May be seen as an accomplishment to many. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:37:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: I think the reason it's worse today is the institutional support the anti america crowd has. They have half the elected officials, probably most of the bureaucrats, the vast majority of teachers and professors, and a high number of judges and activist lawyers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By ryann: Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Originally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By FALFOX: In just the past 6 days, we have surpassed the entire decade of the 1960s as far as street level violence and property damage goes. Then again, it's a lot more visible and publicized due to the internet. Deploying the military on US soil is the final step, and I did not anticipate it to happen so quickly. Depending on how the populace reacts and what occurs, YES, this very well could be the event that ushers in a second civil war and results in the fracturing of the republic. Gentlemen, The Boog is officially at our doorstep. I disagree. Where are the constant bombings? Where are the dozens of completely burned-out neighborhoods around the nation? This recent rioting is terrible - but it's quite a ways away from the 1960s! We don’t have police stations being bombed yet. Just overran. I think the reason it's worse today is the institutional support the anti america crowd has. They have half the elected officials, probably most of the bureaucrats, the vast majority of teachers and professors, and a high number of judges and activist lawyers. The people bombing police stations in the 60s have been teaching the kids since the 80s. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:37:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MBentz: Same. This dude is confused as shit. Ranging shot? What the Fuck is that? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:37:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By compulynx: Honest questions: How can a white officer assigned to a shithole black neighborhood not become somewhat racist? How can a black officer assigned to a white methhead neighborhood not become somewhat racist? It is not so much ingrained hate as it is "this group of folks are subhuman trash, and I do not like them, and they all have this same skin color so I associate that with them." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By compulynx: Originally Posted By Bassgasm: It's a jump to a conclusion partially supported by the history of both our nation in general and that cop in particular. Is Chauvin a racist? That's hard to prove 100%. But some of the signs are there. Honest questions: How can a white officer assigned to a shithole black neighborhood not become somewhat racist? How can a black officer assigned to a white methhead neighborhood not become somewhat racist? It is not so much ingrained hate as it is "this group of folks are subhuman trash, and I do not like them, and they all have this same skin color so I associate that with them." I don't have all the answers. I also think there's at least some merit to the idea that LE should be recruited from the area where they'll work, but that idea has its own problems. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:37:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1057:
The FBI wants info on those inciting violence? How about Timberlake and all the other wankers in Hollywood funding the looters and rioters’ bail? That is inciting a riot and violence right there. You don’t need bail money if you’re not breaking laws. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:37:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: When they perceive they are losing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By GlockZen: If this ramps up how how long before they start going after electrical grid or local substations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/29/2001861964/-1/-1/0/T_GRIFFITH_STRATEGIC_ATTACK.PDF When they perceive they are losing. Shiiit. I don’t even want to think about intentional infrastructure destruction. But it does make sense. Antifa et al didn’t kick this off just to smash some glass and expand their air Jordan’s portfolio. There is an endgame. It could be as basic as making trump look weak etc and trying to get dems elected but that’s HIGHLY unlikely. 99.9999% of antifa are Bernie bros and he’s not even running for president. This means there’s another surprise. Either they’re trying to push a hero into the zeitgeist for bringing calm to the country (to then replace Biden on the dem ticket), or there’s some legit purging of gov about to happen. Then they’ll install their ruler by coup. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:38:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickSaban11: The apps are encrypted. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:38:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blinded: Just not smart enough to dump your leftist girlfriend. It actually explains quite a bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blinded: Originally Posted By StevenH: I’m living it. Protecting my workplace during the day and my home at night. I’m just smart enough not to run outside and brandish at crowds of passing protestors. Just not smart enough to dump your leftist girlfriend. It actually explains quite a bit. She's probably hot, and not all that bad. Maybe she'll see the light. I get it. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:38:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Point it... use it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret: The hardcores are not scared by the presence of a firearm. Might scare away the trust fund Antifa cosplayers but not some banger from Rialto. Not the first gun he has had pointed in his general direction, won't be the last either (unless....) The real hardcores aren't scared by a warning shot either. They might go for cover, they might return fire, they might rush you but they likely won't turn tail and run. Point it... use it. Yeah. You can be as hardcore as you want. I don't fire warning shots and I won't aim to miss if I calculate you as a threat. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:38:56 PM EST
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Downtown Riverside, Ca Riot. Protesters were throwing firecrackers, bottles, bombs at police
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:39:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: When I was in the Danish army, when you were on guard duty, you were REQUIRED to fire a warning shot before shooting someone. Sergeants would remind the troops to always remember to fire a second shot into the ground after you shot someone, so you could claim that a warning shot was fired first.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot @M1-Ed When I was in the Danish army, when you were on guard duty, you were REQUIRED to fire a warning shot before shooting someone. Sergeants would remind the troops to always remember to fire a second shot into the ground after you shot someone, so you could claim that a warning shot was fired first. I don’t know shooting someone in the face is a pretty effective warning to others... |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:39:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: When I was in the Danish army, when you were on guard duty, you were REQUIRED to fire a warning shot before shooting someone. Sergeants would remind the troops to always remember to fire a second shot into the ground after you shot someone, so you could claim that a warning shot was fired first. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot @M1-Ed When I was in the Danish army, when you were on guard duty, you were REQUIRED to fire a warning shot before shooting someone. Sergeants would remind the troops to always remember to fire a second shot into the ground after you shot someone, so you could claim that a warning shot was fired first. 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:39:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Downtown riverside Riot. Protesters were throwing firecrackers, bottles, bombs at police  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVJ3H2e6o-0that today? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:39:43 PM EST
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:40:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bobbybananas: It’s a warning shot that isn’t a warning shot for purposes of any LEO encounters.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bobbybananas: Originally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed It’s a warning shot that isn’t a warning shot for purposes of any LEO encounters. That’s bullshit. The only warning shot I’ve ever been trained is a shot to center mass. It warns of more shots to come. Ed |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:40:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say none of those Houston residents is Nathaniel_Hawkins. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Extorris: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say none of those Houston residents is Nathaniel_Hawkins. goddamn 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:40:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duke23433: fucking pussy with the kick. I see a pattern with that. They won't stop when you're down. You better make sure they don't get close Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By duke23433: Originally Posted By realwar: Man trying to get away from rioters is beaten in Portland, Oregon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxVBXUsgxrwfucking pussy with the kick. I see a pattern with that. They won't stop when you're down. You better make sure they don't get close Anyone who's seen these types of assaults (in person or on video) is well aware of this. That's why I tend to emphasize striking and takedown defense as opposed to strict BJJ/ground fighting. Going down, whether it's being taken down, being stunned/KO'ed or taking another guy down, is dangerous IRL where there's no referee or guarantee of it being 1-on-1. I've seen barfights where 1 guy mistakenly thought it was 1-on-1. Beautiful takedown into control position, only to take a barstool to the back/back of the head, followed by being kicked and stomped a few times before other people rushed to break it up. If there weren't other people rushing in to stop the guys from continuing to stomp, kick and smash the dazed guy with barstools, even if he'd survived, he would've probably been left with lifelong impairment. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:40:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dannylgriffin: A while back someone posted a video here of a woman complaining that she had to use her money to feed her kids and now she doesn't have enough money left to buy weed, and the weed man won't give credit, so now what was she supposed to do? In my 20's I worked with a guy who was a raging thief and druggie, but he claimed he did not steal to buy drugs...he stole to pay his rent.
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:40:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Yes, there was a lot of stuff going on but the assassination of politicians is what really got them moving. They were/are more worried about them selves than the are their constituents. The 1968 GCA has roots that predate any rioting that occured in the '60s. "Precursors of the passage of the Gun Control Act were Senate Bill 1975 in 1963, "A Bill to Regulate the Interstate Shipment of Firearms," and Senate Bill 1592 in 1965, "A Bill to Amend the Federal Firearms Act of 1938." Both were introduced by Senator Thomas J. Dodd and met with fierce opposition on the floor but the bills also paved the way for the creation of the Gun Control Act of 1968." Bonus points if you can name who signed the Mulford Act into CA law. Hint... it's one of GDs favorite "conservative" politicians. Apple, tree. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:41:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disparcher91: Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot @M1-Ed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot @M1-Ed That clears it up. Ed |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:41:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Veprz: Not for nothing, but almost all black immigrants I have ever met absolutely hate african Americans. They are absolutely ashamed of and disgusted by them. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:42:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RainierV: I don't have to prove shit. Read the list yourself. That's what I did. I'm not the one making the claim those people are traitors. If you agree with it, you get to provide evidence because you two are the ones claiming it is true. The evidence provided is largely links to generic tweets saying "George Floyd's death was bad. We support people questioning the events that occurred" and shit like that. Definite Benedict Arnold conduct.  Did I say that? Did I say it was true? No, I asked you to prove that he is wrong and you give me generalizations. And who is "we"? I am still waiting for your evidence you claim to have provided. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:42:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Trump says New York has been 'lost' to 'thugs and lowlife scum' after looters ransack Fifth Avenue and Macy's on second night of lawlessness as curfew is brought forward from 11pm to 8pm and extended until the end of the week https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/02/16/29131480-0-image-m-2_1591112877571.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/02/12/29117252-8379935-A_man_could_be_seen_running_out_of_Paul_Shark_clutching_piles_of-a-29_1591096141940.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/02/14/29126262-8379935-image-a-3_1591105741166.jpg PICS That tweet is fucking brutal and to the point. Should be a ny campaign ad. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:42:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sirveaux: Who's going to be doing the prosecuting? The deep state FBI? State AGs like antifa AG Keith Ellison? Decision should be made to disrupt the organizers to end the riots, then get evidence. How many more communities need to burn so a lazy prosecutor can have their slam dunk that results in a plea anyway? Or do those black communities not matter? I get what you're saying, but if that's the case, maybe they should worry less about signing chain of custody forms and more about ending riots. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sirveaux: Originally Posted By MeInMediocrity: Originally Posted By Sirveaux: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Apps on cell phones. We won’t kill switch the cell transmissions so they continue. Apps could probably be disabled, but that would require pressure on companies. I'm just guessing, but maybe these phones have been identified and the encrypted comms are being recorded for later decryption and use as evidence in prosecutions. Who's going to be doing the prosecuting? The deep state FBI? State AGs like antifa AG Keith Ellison? Decision should be made to disrupt the organizers to end the riots, then get evidence. How many more communities need to burn so a lazy prosecutor can have their slam dunk that results in a plea anyway? Or do those black communities not matter? I get what you're saying, but if that's the case, maybe they should worry less about signing chain of custody forms and more about ending riots. Who's going to be doing the prosecuting? This is part of the problem. Leftists have been installed in positions of authority in many of the rioting areas. MSM still keeps pushing the "peaceful protests" narrative. People that haven't been victimized by the rioting, or haven't had a close friend or relative victimized may be "asleep." I don't think the average person sees even 10% of the videos that have been shared in this thread. MSM makes stuff up, and it usually ends with the message, "Orange Man Bad", "All his fault." People need to wake up and see what is happening for themselves. You can't undo decades of media and school indoctrination overnight. ...worry less about signing chain of custody forms and more about ending riots. Local authorities are supporting the riots. Left-leaning politicians and celebrities are contributing funds to support the rioting. IMO, they're going to have to make Federal cases. To do that, they will need to show an inter-state and/or international component. That takes time. In the meantime, the destruction will continue. I don't like it. As for shutting down the encrypted comms, the opposition seems to be well organized enough to have contingency plans in place. An example could be eveyone buying new burner phones. Have some predetermined social media accounts for exchanging new contact information. Info could be passed in innocent-sounding messages. Maybe take every third letter of every word longer than 9 characters and converty those letters to numbers. That's the new contact number (just an example). They could be back up and running in an hour. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:42:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShortGrub: Several locals say the rocks in those cage looking things, have been there for quite awhile. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShortGrub: Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaEukDdF98 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeZUn7tCULMSupposedly put up by the Jewish Chabad a year or longer ago, to prevent nutjobs crashing vehicles into the front of the building. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:43:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:43:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
lol |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:44:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: When I was in the Danish army, when you were on guard duty, you were REQUIRED to fire a warning shot before shooting someone. Sergeants would remind the troops to always remember to fire a second shot into the ground after you shot someone, so you could claim that a warning shot was fired first. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By M1-Ed: Originally Posted By disparcher91: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Originally Posted By seedlings: Biden says shoot their legs out My state doesn’t allow warning shots. I have been trained to shoot by both federal, and loca, law enforcement. As in I went through the same exact training as LEO's, with LEO's. Usually my first shot is a "ranging" shot. The second is to "bracket". The 3rd is a full on fire for effect, or expend all rounds on target. But I do not fire a warning shot. And I'm not a Leo I've just been to the classes. What the hell is a “ranging shot”? You using artillery? Never ever heard of such a thing. And Im .mil and leo trained as a Leo. Ed Poor attempt at sarcasm on my part. Good call too as I was, for a brief time, indirect fire infantry 11C. Level, check. Level, check. Level, check.... As notoriously bad cops are at shooting I would never admit to a warning shot. Just tell them you had a ND while clearing your holster. Or your a bad shot. but never fire a warning shot @M1-Ed When I was in the Danish army, when you were on guard duty, you were REQUIRED to fire a warning shot before shooting someone. Sergeants would remind the troops to always remember to fire a second shot into the ground after you shot someone, so you could claim that a warning shot was fired first.  Ed |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:44:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garr: Keep dreaming, these safes are not your gun safe metal box; the jewelry safe in the a friend of mines Store in a local mall is a TL-60x6. remember these safes are designed to withstand an attack from a professional who knows how to get it open, in a shop environment with every possible tool right there (including cutting torches) at his disposal for 60 minutes. A cold saw won't get you anywhere with one of these safes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By garr: Originally Posted By 36trap: Fein slugger cold cut saw goes through 1/2" thick plate like butter. Perfect for opening up safes when you know law enforcement response is either seriously delayed or not coming at all. Keep dreaming, these safes are not your gun safe metal box; the jewelry safe in the a friend of mines Store in a local mall is a TL-60x6. remember these safes are designed to withstand an attack from a professional who knows how to get it open, in a shop environment with every possible tool right there (including cutting torches) at his disposal for 60 minutes. A cold saw won't get you anywhere with one of these safes. Yeah, the industrial jewelry safes are REAL safes, several inches thick of various types of metal including stainless steel to resist heat. Anything can be breached with enough time and the right tools, but looters aren’t getting in. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:44:56 PM EST
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Since the Left loves "Science" so much.
Give them some science when they try to argue how great accepting their newfound political violence is. i FuCkInG lOvE sCiEnCe! "Across 6 experiments, including 3 that were preregistered, participants indicated less support for social movements that used more extreme protest actions. This result obtained across a variety of movements (e.g., animal rights, anti-Trump, anti-abortion) and extreme protest actions (e.g., blocking highways, vandalizing property). Further, in 5 of 6 studies, negative reactions to extreme protest actions also led participants to support the movement's central cause less, and these effects were largely independent of individuals' prior ideology or views on the issue" https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2020-02398-001 |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:45:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: In my 20's I worked with a guy who was a raging thief and druggie, but he claimed he did not steal to buy drugs...he stole to pay his rent. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By dannylgriffin: A while back someone posted a video here of a woman complaining that she had to use her money to feed her kids and now she doesn't have enough money left to buy weed, and the weed man won't give credit, so now what was she supposed to do? In my 20's I worked with a guy who was a raging thief and druggie, but he claimed he did not steal to buy drugs...he stole to pay his rent. Cash is fungible. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:45:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: I think this is the correct take. History is full of nations that subjected themselves to heavy handed government out of fear. Security is almost always chosen over Liberty. The story of America's Independence and first 200 or so years is the exception, not the norm. When the dust settles from this shit show, we're going to get more government. Things may stabilize this week, or there may be a period of anarchy and chaos, but when it's over, the American people will subject themselves to whatever flavor of government is in place. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bassgasm: Originally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By JPN: Originally Posted By Him: Originally Posted By tnriverluver: They were talking on the news last night about some encrypted app they were using. "Only law enforcement and military should be able to use encryption." FBI will lead the charge, "public opinion" polls and news media will follow up with a saturation campaign. And when Antifa steps up to using guns (where have their friends, the John Brown Gun Club, been?), the news media and the usual crowd in government will be pushing for their gun control wish list. The question is whether or not the public will go along with it. People who think sheep will turn into something else are delusional. Sheep crave safety, and will give up everything else in exchange .................. but they still won't be safe. I think this is the correct take. History is full of nations that subjected themselves to heavy handed government out of fear. Security is almost always chosen over Liberty. The story of America's Independence and first 200 or so years is the exception, not the norm. When the dust settles from this shit show, we're going to get more government. Things may stabilize this week, or there may be a period of anarchy and chaos, but when it's over, the American people will subject themselves to whatever flavor of government is in place. Trading safety for liberty isn’t far off when people are clamoring for the .mil to be sent in to residential neighborhoods Something has to change to rein in the rioting I just hope we aren’t making big mistakes in doing so. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:46:06 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluemax_1: Supposedly put up by the Jewish Chabad a year or longer ago, to prevent nutjobs crashing vehicles into the front of the building. Has anyone verified or checked to see if they were used last night in the riots? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:47:13 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
He's not wrong. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:47:27 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: Layered defense is best. Mutual support with neighbors watching out. Controlled access in. Make your neighborhood hard. Single point access. At night get some lights up to blind their vision. Get your roofs ready for cocktails. Hoses ready and sprinklers on if you have them. Dogs are good. Cars stacked on roadways at alternating parking angles creates a cordon. Hurricane shutters can help the glass from getting crushed. Fire bottles ready to put out the fire. DONT EXPECT LEO support. When they come, be ready. Defend what’s yours. Chicken wire over the windows. Run the sprinklers all day and night |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:48:05 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockZen: If this ramps up how how long before they start going after electrical grid or local substations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack https://media.defense.gov/2017/Dec/29/2001861964/-1/-1/0/T_GRIFFITH_STRATEGIC_ATTACK.PDF I have previously speculated they will attack the grid, but will probably wait untill the hottest months for greatest effect. No AC = more nursing home deaths than Covid-19. 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:48:44 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluemax_1: Anyone who's seen these types of assaults (in person or on video) is well aware of this. That's why I tend to emphasize striking and takedown defense as opposed to strict BJJ/ground fighting. Going down, whether it's being taken down, being stunned/KO'ed or taking another guy down, is dangerous IRL where there's no referee or guarantee of it being 1-on-1. I've seen barfights where 1 guy mistakenly thought it was 1-on-1. Beautiful takedown into control position, only to take a barstool to the back/back of the head, followed by being kicked and stomped a few times before other people rushed to break it up. If there weren't other people rushing in to stop the guys from continuing to stomp, kick and smash the dazed guy with barstools, even if he'd survived, he would've probably been left with lifelong impairment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bluemax_1: Originally Posted By duke23433: Originally Posted By realwar: Man trying to get away from rioters is beaten in Portland, Oregon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxVBXUsgxrwfucking pussy with the kick. I see a pattern with that. They won't stop when you're down. You better make sure they don't get close Anyone who's seen these types of assaults (in person or on video) is well aware of this. That's why I tend to emphasize striking and takedown defense as opposed to strict BJJ/ground fighting. Going down, whether it's being taken down, being stunned/KO'ed or taking another guy down, is dangerous IRL where there's no referee or guarantee of it being 1-on-1. I've seen barfights where 1 guy mistakenly thought it was 1-on-1. Beautiful takedown into control position, only to take a barstool to the back/back of the head, followed by being kicked and stomped a few times before other people rushed to break it up. If there weren't other people rushing in to stop the guys from continuing to stomp, kick and smash the dazed guy with barstools, even if he'd survived, he would've probably been left with lifelong impairment. I’ve probably shared this a couple times here, but here goes again. Downtown Orlando a few years ago at like 2am after going to bars with a female friend, we go back to the car to wait for an Uber. 5x 20-something Arab males approached us, I knew what was coming. They were parked next to us and were trying to drag my friend into their car. I ended up fighting 3 at a time and I was pretty sure I was going to die. I would have if they had a single weapon between them. I ended up breaking a few of their ribs, noses, possibly an arm. I then proceeded to destroy at least one of their cell phones and do about 2k in damage to their car. I ended up with a bloody nose and some bruises. Since then, I do not like to be surrounded by anyone and wouldn’t hesitate to start blasting if a group was even attempting to flank me. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:48:58 PM EST
[#42]
Has anyone seen a total count for last night of officers shot or hit by vehicles? It seemed like nationwide there could be 30 or more.
Please @me if anyone has seen an article on it. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:49:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: cavedog]
[#43]
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:49:09 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sirveaux: Maybe shut down cell towers after curfew. "oh noes chaos will ensue and 911 won't be able to answer calls!" And this is different how? There was actually what appeared to be an approximately 40 minute social media blackout in NCR yesterday morning. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:49:29 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: The people bombing police stations in the 60s have been teaching the kids since the 80s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By wyomingnick: Originally Posted By ryann: Originally Posted By Miami_JBT: Originally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By FALFOX: In just the past 6 days, we have surpassed the entire decade of the 1960s as far as street level violence and property damage goes. Then again, it's a lot more visible and publicized due to the internet. Deploying the military on US soil is the final step, and I did not anticipate it to happen so quickly. Depending on how the populace reacts and what occurs, YES, this very well could be the event that ushers in a second civil war and results in the fracturing of the republic. Gentlemen, The Boog is officially at our doorstep. I disagree. Where are the constant bombings? Where are the dozens of completely burned-out neighborhoods around the nation? This recent rioting is terrible - but it's quite a ways away from the 1960s! We don’t have police stations being bombed yet. Just overran. I think the reason it's worse today is the institutional support the anti america crowd has. They have half the elected officials, probably most of the bureaucrats, the vast majority of teachers and professors, and a high number of judges and activist lawyers. The people bombing police stations in the 60s have been teaching the kids since the 80s. Or become activist lawyers and judges. That is why I think its much worse today. The radicals back then just quit their violence and become mainstream influencers of society. And they've been doing it for a half a century. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:49:51 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By huntsman2448: They should release the next COD on Xbox right now. That will clear the little heathens off the streets. The next big update that was supposed to release today, was postponed in solidarity. 
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:49:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By derwood67: I'd also add a shopkeeper pumping rounds into a looter for nearly 3 minutes after he stopped moving would be frowned upon by most of us and seen as a tad excessive. They wouldn't have that in a movie if it wasn't acceptable. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:50:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Moving UPS truck looted during Minneapolis protests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGFq9OJRavYVideo shows looters raiding Amazon van in Santa Monica, California Video Needs more  Breaking Bad - 'Mike kills the truck hijackers' (HD) |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:50:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: USAFtacFANAC]
[#49]
 LIVE | George Floyd Protest Saint Paul MN Looking pretty calm and what not. State capital in St. Paul. This is a live feed. |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:50:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
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