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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:32:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By solid: Looking good. Good luck hunting!  Attached File Attached FileGot the father in law one. I got enough meet and got more important building to do than meat processing. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/6EB41B16-8231-4382-BC21-388E4024DC46_jpe-2917641.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Originally Posted By Requiem: What does the inside of your outhouse look like? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/6EB41B16-8231-4382-BC21-388E4024DC46_jpe-2917641.JPG Cool, automatic seat warmer for the winter. |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 10:39:34 PM EDT
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Didn’t get as much done today as I wanted. But progress is progress. The weather always gets a vote.
Got the front wall cut to the angle of the roof and one of the purlins up.  Attached File Attached FileHard to tell in the picture but it’s pouring rain. Was too windy, wet, and lightning for me to want to be standing on a ladder doing the other side.  Attached FileFoliage is starting to turn a bit up there. |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 11:53:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jodan1776]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: INPUT TIME alright for the metal roof. 3x16ft metal panels are 92lbs a piece. That is pretty damn long and heavy to get out there. On the roof of the 4Runner could probably only do 2-3 at a time and need 22 of them. Maybe buy some shitty beater trailer to get them out there. Or get 10ft and 8ft ones and over lap them. But would be overall more material to get out there. And cost more. 16ft ones would be $1745 10 and 8ft combos would be $2048 I built a shed onto the side of my barn and put standard metal roofing over wood purlins. The sheets were about 20 feet, and I'm sure they didn't weigh more than maybe 20-30 pounds. I believe sheet metal roofing is typically about 28 gauge, maybe 26 for heavy duty. ETA: I just checked the thickness of some painted steel roofing I just installed. It's 0.018" which is 26 gauge, which is 0.75 pounds per sq ft. 16x3 = 48 sq ft x .75=36 pounds per sheet. So you're using roofing which is about 18 gauge (2#/sq ft)? Even the walls on a steel building here don't use sheet metal that heavy. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 12:07:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jodan1776: That must be some mighty heavy gauge roofing. I'm pretty sure normal metal roofing around here is vastly lighter than that. But it is made to go over an underlayment or at least purlins. Are you not using purlins? I built a shed onto the side of my barn and put standard metal roofing over wood purlins. The sheets were about 20 feet, and I'm sure they didn't weigh more than maybe 20-30 pounds. I believe it's typically about 28 gauge, maybe 26 for heavy duty. That’s what the site gave for a weight. But they do over estimate on the site for weights it seems. Bought the metal just gotta pick it up and I’ll know for sure. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 12:21:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: INPUT TIME alright for the metal roof. 3x16ft metal panels are 92lbs a piece. That is pretty damn long and heavy to get out there. On the roof of the 4Runner could probably only do 2-3 at a time and need 22 of them. Maybe buy some shitty beater trailer to get them out there. Or get 10ft and 8ft ones and over lap them. But would be overall more material to get out there. And cost more. 16ft ones would be $1745 10 and 8ft combos would be $2048 |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 12:42:22 AM EDT
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That would make it easy at that weight.
Also appreciate the input. I’m completely making this up. I’ve never built anything before. So sometimes I’m wrong. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 1:09:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rosta97:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/EE75B65B-DAFF-4BD5-892E-8136AEF2A614_jpe-2917642.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/E1F32A59-4417-4FC2-AEA3-E62D9AC52A07_jpe-2917644.JPG Got the father in law one. I got enough meet and got more important building to do than meat processing.[/quote  I miss bou hunting.  |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 12:01:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: That would make it easy at that weight. Also appreciate the input. I’m completely making this up. I’ve never built anything before. So sometimes I’m wrong. You're doing pretty damn well for someone having never done it. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 10:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: That would make it easy at that weight. Also appreciate the input. I'm completely making this up. I've never built anything before. So sometimes I'm wrong. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 10:47:28 PM EDT
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Can we all chip in and buy OP some PTO days so he can move this thread along???!!!
Love seeing his progress! 
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Posted: 8/14/2023 11:05:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rosta97]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnew007: Can we all chip in and buy OP some PTO days so he can move this thread along???!!! Love seeing his progress! Might come to that. Hoping by the end of labor Day weekend will have the roof on. Father in law and wife may go up Wednesday and try to get the other purlin up. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 11:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Might come to that. Hoping by the end of labor Day weekend will have the roof on. Father in law and wife may go up Wednesday and try to get the other purlin up. Send up the APC bat signal and I could be up there in about a 3-day drive. 3/4 Ton diesel longbed can haul a lot of roofing panels. Though I'd have to take your trail analysis on whether a longbed extended cab can make that trail. |
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Posted: 8/14/2023 11:44:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rosta97]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Send up the APC bat signal and I could be up there in about a 3-day drive. 3/4 Ton diesel longbed can haul a lot of roofing panels. Though I'd have to take your trail analysis on whether a longbed extended cab can make that trail. I mean any help is appreciated. Got a plaque I’m having everyone sign that helped out I’m gonna hang in it when I’m done. Trail isn’t muddy. Just rocky so some clearance is needed. Would make it out the main trail. But too long to make it down the trail to my place off the main trail. ETA: if they haven’t figured out who I am by now they really suck. But edited it just because.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/15/2023 2:18:55 PM EDT
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Doesn’t look like $2100 worth of stuff. But it is.
Last big purchase which is good cause my bank account is hurting. Just the lumber, insulation, and roofing was close to $6,000 for the roof.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/16/2023 3:16:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Send up the APC bat signal and I could be up there in about a 3-day drive. 3/4 Ton diesel longbed can haul a lot of roofing panels. Though I'd have to take your trail analysis on whether a longbed extended cab can make that trail. Generous offer! |
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Posted: 8/21/2023 9:06:15 PM EDT
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Apologize for the lack of updates. Father in law talked a big game about helping get the roof on but we ended up doing not a whole lot and got caught up in other things.
Was funny my dad called him out for it. But my dad isn’t much different. Talked a big game in the planning stage “oh I’ll just go spend a week up there at a time working on it”. But getting him to go for a day is a struggle. And one single overnight is a big deal. Spent this weekend down south as my favorite band came to Alaska and it’s incredibly rare anyone comes up so I had to go.  Attached FileWill be out there as much as possible moving forward. But also have to get my house ready for winter. Leaves are changing and lows in town are in the 40s now. Cabin is likely in the 30s at night. Cabin is probably less than a month out from the first snow. |
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Posted: 8/21/2023 9:29:32 PM EDT
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You can doo eeeeet! Get a roof and prep for the woodstove, you've got this!
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Posted: 8/22/2023 12:34:28 AM EDT
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Kind of the same thing with me and my family but with the weather playing a big part.
Lots of work to do at camp and firewood to get. We are very low on firewood. With only the open boat I don't want my dad out in the cold rain. Plus the wind and flat bottom boats don't mix well. |
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Posted: 8/22/2023 11:45:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Topper1: Cool, automatic seat warmer for the winter. Uhm, for the toilet, you use styrofoam for the seat..it is instantly warm even in the coldest weather...nothing else comes close for a shitter....  Setting up the shitter for hunt camp..dig hole, drop in 55 gal drum with both ends cut out, drop wood top on with styrofoam seat and folding cover..its hidden back in the brush with enough space in case a bear comes round...once hunt is over, pour in some diesel and burn the shit, pull the drum and fill the hole back in...done...  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/23/2023 2:30:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSnowRider: Uhm, for the toilet, you use styrofoam for the seat..it is instantly warm even in the coldest weather...nothing else comes close for a shitter.... Setting up the shitter for hunt camp..dig hole, drop in 55 gal drum with both ends cut out, drop wood top on with styrofoam seat and folding cover..its hidden back in the brush with enough space in case a bear comes round...once hunt is over, pour in some diesel and burn the shit, pull the drum and fill the hole back in...done... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/404934/IMG_7212_jpeg-2928342.JPG LMFAO!!!! Tell us you haven’t done this before, without telling us you haven’t done it before  I’ve shit in the woods every winter for 25 years, and this is amazing!! |
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Posted: 8/23/2023 7:25:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Atropian_Defector]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackTaco: LMFAO!!!! Tell us you haven’t done this before, without telling us you haven’t done it before I’ve shit in the woods every winter for 25 years, and this is amazing!! Then he includes a in every post to further reduce his credibility. As if that seals the deal on his “knowledge”. Like he’s the only one who’s survived bush Alaska for decades  Blue foam board is the only way though for a seat, that part is true. |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 5:43:30 PM EDT
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 Attached FileStarted by hauling out the metal. Only took 2 trips. Was really uneventful.  Attached FileMy dad hauled out some other random shit.  Attached FileTundra is changing color.  Attached FileThen started putting up the other purlins.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 5:48:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2023 5:50:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rosta97]
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Got them all up. Debated starting the roof. But knew there wouldn’t be enough time to get it all done. So just did some cleaning up and what not around the cabin.
And put in a center support.  Attached FileAnd took a walk down to the creek. Had never been before. Gotta cut a trail.  Attached File Attached FileTrying to rally as many people as I can to go out next weekend and get the whole roof done. |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 6:34:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2023 7:00:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rosta97]
[#27]
 Attached FileIt’s coming. That’s the nearest weather station to the cabin Next weekend. Looks fun.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 7:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/50C6AAE9-7F8E-4FF0-B9FE-F890AC4B0110_jpe-2934332.JPG It’s coming. That’s the nearest weather station to the cabin Next weekend. Looks fun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/59AD9A3B-5FD9-4BBF-938B-031A73459067_png-2934341.JPG I wish I had those temps coming to bluegrass country. We'll see another week of 90°+ highs after labor day weekend. |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 8:01:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Our temps are close to yours but with rain.
 Wish I was there to lend a little bit of help. |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 8:30:22 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Our temps are close to yours but with rain. Wish I was there to lend a little bit of help. Just a short flight away. All the cheap beer and Costco burgers you can eat lol. |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 9:59:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Send up the APC bat signal and I could be up there in about a 3-day drive. 3/4 Ton diesel longbed can haul a lot of roofing panels. Though I'd have to take your trail analysis on whether a longbed extended cab can make that trail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By Rosta97: Might come to that. Hoping by the end of labor Day weekend will have the roof on. Father in law and wife may go up Wednesday and try to get the other purlin up. Send up the APC bat signal and I could be up there in about a 3-day drive. 3/4 Ton diesel longbed can haul a lot of roofing panels. Though I'd have to take your trail analysis on whether a longbed extended cab can make that trail. Shit I'll drive to your place and ride with you. I'll bring my tools, retired residential roofing contractor with 30+ years. |
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Posted: 8/27/2023 10:11:00 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CaliContractor: Shit I'll drive to your place and ride with you. I'll bring my tools, retired residential roofing contractor with 30+ years. Not saying I need you buuuuutttttttt………. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 5:33:58 PM EDT
[#33]
Looking good op. Pedal to the floor man!
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Posted: 8/28/2023 5:58:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By solid: Looking good op. Pedal to the floor man! Gonna try. Seems like my wife and I failed to rally anyone to come help this weekend. So we’ll go out Friday night and stay through Monday. Idk if her and I can get the whole roof done in that time but I’m damn sure gonna try. My dad will come out for a day or two I’m sure but he’s terrified of heights so no way he’s helping with the roof. Probably task him with doing the windows and door or something. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 5:59:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Not saying I need you buuuuutttttttt………. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Originally Posted By CaliContractor: Shit I'll drive to your place and ride with you. I'll bring my tools, retired residential roofing contractor with 30+ years. Not saying I need you buuuuutttttttt………. I can come up anytime after labor day. Poke Ed and make it happen. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 6:06:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Gonna try. Seems like my wife and I failed to rally anyone to come help this weekend. So we’ll go out Friday night and stay through Monday. Idk if her and I can get the whole roof done in that time but I’m damn sure gonna try. My dad will come out for a day or two I’m sure but he’s terrified of heights so no way he’s helping with the roof. Probably task him with doing the windows and door or something. What are you decking it with, I assume 2x planks run vertically? If you don't already have one, beg, borrow or steal a nail gun and it will cut the time to do that by about 75%. The electric ones are nice but nothing wrong with an old school pneumatic and a gas compressor. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 6:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redbirdxx: What are you decking it with, I assume 2x planks run vertically? If you don't already have one, beg, borrow or steal a nail gun and it will cut the time to do that by about 75%. The electric ones are nice but nothing wrong with an old school pneumatic and a gas compressor. Yeah. I have a nail gun. It’s electric but does a decent job. Going to spend massive amounts of time just moving ladders around. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 7:23:21 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Yeah. I have a nail gun. It’s electric but does a decent job. Going to spend massive amounts of time just moving ladders around. I'd suggest setting up a stage or plank in line with the middle purloin (not the ridge beam, you'd need to do it once for each side). Have a guy on that catching planks and nailing them in, someone on the ground sending them up. Once set up you could work across that in an hour or two. Might have to go back once it's all in place and nail the tops, not sure you'd be able to reach. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 7:40:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redbirdxx: I'd suggest setting up a stage or plank in line with the middle purloin (not the ridge beam, you'd need to do it once for each side). Have a guy on that catching planks and nailing them in, someone on the ground sending them up. Once set up you could work across that in an hour or two. Might have to go back once it's all in place and nail the tops, not sure you'd be able to reach. Yeah that’s basically the plan. Really hope I can get it all done in 3 days. Probably gonna bring a big tarp in case I don’t. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 7:49:39 PM EDT
[#40]
this a big snow load area? thats gonna need some serious decking under that purlin span.
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Posted: 8/28/2023 8:11:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rosta97]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: this a big snow load area? thats gonna need some serious decking under that purlin span. It is. But with it being so steep I hope it naturally slides off. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 8:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Yeah that’s basically the plan. Really hope I can get it all done in 3 days. Probably gonna bring a big tarp in case I don’t. Should be doable. Suggest temping in a stop up on the ridge, slide 'em up, snug them up to the stop, tack them in on the center purloin and the bottom if you can reach it. Anything you can't reach can be gone back over one it's all up and you can walk around up there. Pull the stop off and the other side you can just butt up to the side that's already done. An hour of planning and set up- picturing what you'll need, what could speed things up, and what can go wrong can easily save half a day or more of work. You doing underlayment? |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 8:15:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Redbirdxx: Should be doable. Suggest temping in a stop up on the ridge, slide 'em up, snug them up to the stop, tack them in on the center purloin and the bottom if you can reach it. Anything you can't reach can be gone back over one it's all up and you can walk around up there. Pull the stop off and the other side you can just butt up to the side that's already done. An hour of planning and set up- picturing what you'll need, what could speed things up, and what can go wrong can easily save half a day or more of work. You doing underlayment? Yeah I got a vapor barrier. Don’t remember what brand. The roofing company hooked me up with everything needed and diagrams of what goes where and what not. I know it’s not a self healing one as that was like 10x the cost. |
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Posted: 8/28/2023 8:59:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rosta97: Gonna try. Seems like my wife and I failed to rally anyone to come help this weekend. So we'll go out Friday night and stay through Monday. Idk if her and I can get the whole roof done in that time but I'm damn sure gonna try. My dad will come out for a day or two I'm sure but he's terrified of heights so no way he's helping with the roof. Probably task him with doing the windows and door or something.
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Posted: 8/29/2023 3:23:03 AM EDT
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Shit OP, if I was healthy enough I would come help you, but hell I just got out of the hospital a couple weeks back and still have only felt good enough to leave the house once since....I'm missing hunting this year and that sucks, the one thing I look forward to every year...
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:25:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Since this has just kinda turned into the chronicles of my life thread. Brought the canoe down to the pond. Can’t wait for duck opener Friday.
 Attached File Attached FileTook the morning off. Then going to the cabin after work. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:46:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By Rosta97:
Since this has just kinda turned into the chronicles of my life thread. Brought the canoe down to the pond. Can't wait for duck opener Friday. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/2EBBEBE1-8A93-47DE-91F7-EB65E0D9CBA4_jpe-2938006.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/231690/B05D7F51-D59F-4E1D-8E64-B595D7EF3E9F_jpe-2938007.JPG Took the morning off. Then going to the cabin after work.[/quote Going to storm here with winds and rain. My flat bottom boat does not do good in waves. |
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Posted: 8/31/2023 3:13:14 PM EDT
[#48]
This’ll be fun. Eagle summit is the closest weather station to my cabin. 52mph winds.
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Posted: 8/31/2023 3:30:12 PM EDT
[#49]
No way I would do roof work with winds like that.
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Posted: 8/31/2023 3:32:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinSpinner: No way I would do roof work with winds like that. A good way to get dead. |
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