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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:28:11 AM EDT
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Poetic justice you watch this doc on Amazon, which along with Walmart, destroyed malls across the country.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:28:27 AM EDT
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I want to watch that. When they first released it they charged for it.

I wonder if mall dude worked for Tiger King.
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He owned a zoo with tigers. Did you randomly guess that or was that in the preview?
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:32:02 AM EDT
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How about Mall of America which has very little to do with Americans but derka derkas from Somalia and shitbags throwing kids off the upper floors. Bloomington will soon have Minneapolis shit bleeding over into it until the mall closes permanently.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:37:25 AM EDT
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That would be the safe option, before noon to be honest, before the locals wake up.

MacArthur had a shooting in it last year and several “youth” fights.
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I think I will. I’m assuming I need to go in the daytime?


That would be the safe option, before noon to be honest, before the locals wake up.

MacArthur had a shooting in it last year and several “youth” fights.
Mostly 18-19 y/o
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:38:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:41:46 AM EDT
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For me it was Gulfgate Mall and Almeda Mall in Houston.  Gulfgate is gone and Almeda is still crawling along but not by much.  The Galleria used to be a shinning jewel but has become ghettofied.  America is draining it's own life blood.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:43:03 AM EDT
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Used to be you knew when the new Oldsmobiles were in early for the year.  Not so much anymore.
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Baby clothes too, that mall has everything.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:50:42 AM EDT
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Haven't been to a mall in a few years but the last time I went it was rather depressing. Lots of vacant stores...


I might be the odd man out here, but even into my early 30s (20 years ago now) I enjoyed going to malls to both window shop and people watch and I have a few fond memories of those times.  

Of course back than there were actually some interesting shops in the malls, bookstores, record stores, even a gunshot in one mall (Bob Wards, SouthGate Mall in Missoula)
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:58:40 AM EDT
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Huntsville, AL has one of the largest median income levels in Alabama. They have a poor record with malls.

Heart of Huntsville Mall- kaput

Madison Square Mall- kaput (900,000+ sq ft)

Parkway Place Mall- bankrupt but hanging in

The latest one is Bridge Street Town Centre way on the western edge of Huntsville, a bitch to get to from where I live. Not an enclosed mall, groups of stores you walk to (exposed to the elements). It seemed to be fully occupied last time I was there.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 11:59:51 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:02:08 PM EDT
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The mall that closed down long ago was turned into a police station. It needed to since the ghetto grew up around the mall. That's been 30+ years.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:07:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:07:30 PM EDT
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How technology killed the mall. Literally. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSkYxW5Ii28
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Total 80's cheese.

Looks to be the same mall as "Commando".
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:09:49 PM EDT
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Once I figured out I could order clothes and shoes that actually fit vs going to a store, I knew malls were dead.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:22:20 PM EDT
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I'd love to see an unused mall turned into a paintball/airsoft course. Maybe drone racing. Maybe both at the same time
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:25:48 PM EDT
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Malls have been ion the decline ever since their main draw fell out of fashion; streaking.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:30:59 PM EDT
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Check out the mall in Akron Ohio.  Use to be one of the best in the country.  Out in the suburbs.

Then the dipshits in government decided it was racist to deny the mall to the diverse inner city demographics.

They started running buses from the city to the mall.

It didn't take long for crime to increase and for the mall to deteriorate.  Completely shut down now and has been for a long time.
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Let’s have an honest moment.  The thing that kills malls are blacks turning the mall into feral battlegrounds where shoppers no longer feel safe because of shootings and group assaults.


Check out the mall in Akron Ohio.  Use to be one of the best in the country.  Out in the suburbs.

Then the dipshits in government decided it was racist to deny the mall to the diverse inner city demographics.

They started running buses from the city to the mall.

It didn't take long for crime to increase and for the mall to deteriorate.  Completely shut down now and has been for a long time.


The funny thing is everyone trying to come up with rationalizations on why malls failed - Amazon, Walmart, while ignoring the elephant standing in front of their face.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 12:43:32 PM EDT
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Wonder if malls went tits up in other countries also, or if its just a US thing. Last time I was in the UK and NI a couple of years ago, I happened to be in hotels near malls and they were doing great...
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Malls in other countries are doing quite well.
The US tolerates behavior that other countries frown upon and do something about when encountered.
Those behaviors make people not want to spend money at a mall.
They go elsewhere. The mall goes broke.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 1:04:49 PM EDT
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There's one in the Orlando area that houses a huge car collection and has multiple go-kart tracks.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 1:12:46 PM EDT
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Watched that as well. Crazy how a company like Blockbuster is absolutely thriving then one day.....gone.
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The Last Blockbuster
Another good doc if you're going down memory lane.

Watched that as well. Crazy how a company like Blockbuster is absolutely thriving then one day.....gone.

What's even more crazy is that Blockbuster had an opportunity to buy Netflix when Netflix needed an influx of cash in 2000.

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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 1:30:19 PM EDT
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For me it was Gulfgate Mall and Almeda Mall in Houston.  Gulfgate is gone and Almeda is still crawling along but not by much.  The Galleria used to be a shinning jewel but has become ghettofied.  America is draining it's own life blood.
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Grew up in Houston in the 70’s and 80’s and kinda left in the late 90’s (parents still live there).  I remember Gulfgate and the surrounding area.  It all kinda went downhill when the dealerships left.

Watched Sharpstown radically change as it was more my neighborhood mall.  It was a victim of a huge change in the surrounding area versus a victim of mass transit.  That area of town went way down and the mall followed.  What it is now is reflective of the area.

Also watched Westwood go by some of the same issues but more due to a new suburban mall being built further out.

I haven’t been in Northwest in 35 years but every time I drive by it gets worse and worse
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 1:53:20 PM EDT
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There used to be many around Pittsburgh
Greensburg, just east of Pittsburgh, had two malls.   The older was torn down many years ago.  It was actually the nicest.  Had a big tropical forest with ponds and streams, and a small food court area.  Lots of different birds in a large cage
The second one had a large section turned into a casino just recently.  I don’t got to casinos much, but my mom has been several times, and apparently it is getting decent traffic so far.   What has come out of that is apparently Guy Fieri is a racist, and doesn’t pay blacks equal amounts as whites and latinos.   Experience probably has nothing to do with it.

I haven’t been to Monroeville mall is a very long time.   I have no desire to be shot.   Although I haven’t heard of any shootings there in some time.  Maybe they just stopped reporting on those.

There is also Ross Park Mall in the north Hills, Wexford area.  Only went in there once, to the apple store, to get my new iPad unlocked.
It seemed to be fairly decent, and a lot of occupancy.
Robison Mall bear the airport was OK maybe 5-10 years ago, but it’s still fairly new.  
South hills village not sure how it is.  Never went in.   And there was a small Galleria mall near green tree on the way to the airport, not sure what’s become of it either.  Used to be more upscale shops.

The other big one was century III mall (I think that was the name) near clairton.   Clairton is a shithole Slum and stinks because of the US Steel  coke making plant.   It closed maybe twenty years ago.   Was vacant for a long time, and I am pretty sure it was torn down.   It was built on a slag pile from the steel mills.   Used to be the big mall in the area, three levels .  Was only ever in there a couple times when I worked down that way for USS.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 2:00:29 PM EDT
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Best movie ever
Womenz were hot!


Link Posted: 7/5/2021 2:11:47 PM EDT
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I've been to the Jasper Mall and it was definitely run down 5 years ago.

I think I was returning a pair of shorts someone gave me as a gift.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 2:44:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 2:50:06 PM EDT
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I started watching...then realized it was a metaphor for this country....depressed, so I stopped watching..
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Lack of residential areas aside, a mall is like a mini-city. Watch what happens during the rise, success and fall

ETA: Rick & Morty probably wasn't too far off
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 2:54:35 PM EDT
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I remember going to the Bannister Mall as a kid.
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Town east and west malls in Wichita are still packed.

Malls in KC are another story.

I remember going to the Bannister Mall as a kid.


Bannister Mall got quite cosmopolitan.  Thankfully the place closed.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 3:01:56 PM EDT
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Our mall took a direct hit from an EF3 tornado during the heart of Covid panic in March 2021.    Only thing open at this point are three anchor stores.   The company that owns the mall property are just letting it die.    Terrible.  

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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 3:07:34 PM EDT
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http://deadmalls.com/

If you grew up in the 70s or 80s, the place you hung out with your friends is probably in there.
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Site is filled with 404 errors.

Link Posted: 7/5/2021 3:13:42 PM EDT
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Watched that as well. Crazy how a company like Blockbuster is absolutely thriving then one day.....gone.
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I literally interviewed for an IT job days before they filed BK.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 3:16:33 PM EDT
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Interesting. I know what I'll be doing today.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 4:35:42 PM EDT
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Malls in Dubai are doing great
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I doubt the Lower Classes can afford so much as an Orange Julius in a Dubai shopping mall.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 4:49:09 PM EDT
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I doubt the Lower Classes can afford so much as an Orange Julius in a Dubai shopping mall.
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Malls in Dubai are doing great

I doubt the Lower Classes can afford so much as an Orange Julius in a Dubai shopping mall.


They're comparable or cheaper than US malls for the most part, at least for a lot of products.

Closer to China
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 5:08:48 PM EDT
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THAT brings back some memories of the 70s nd 80s.

Chic-Fil-A, Spencers, etc..

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How is Greenbriar?  Pretty much lashing about in death throes.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 5:22:01 PM EDT
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This is one local to me. Only reason to go there is the Bass Pro.

Forest Fair Mall in Fairfield OH.

One mall in Columbus has fun shows in the old JC Penney. They have security to make sure you don't wander off into the mall proper with your new purchase.

Exploring the Cincinnati Mills Mall - Abandoned Yet Still Open
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 5:22:36 PM EDT
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Since OP is in my general area now he should go check out Military Circle mall, or what is left of it.

MacArthur Mall used to be one of the area’s shining jewels but it’s now going the same direction that Military Circle is. Once the sports Jersey and hat stores start popping up you know a mall is on it’s down slide.
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When I was hired by MSC 21 years ago, the contract hotel for CIVMARS was the Days Inn Military Circle, right behind that mall.  It was rough then.  The motel’s one redeeming feature was being across the street from Grate Stake (also gone).
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 5:22:40 PM EDT
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For me it was Gulfgate Mall and Almeda Mall in Houston.  Gulfgate is gone and Almeda is still crawling along but not by much.  The Galleria used to be a shinning jewel but has become ghettofied.  America is draining it's own life blood.
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That's damned amazing. The Galleria was the big fancy mall with Neman-Marcus, the his-and hers high $$$ stuff.

Greenspoint had just been built, that was a real very few times we went treat. Turned into a shithole too.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 5:43:49 PM EDT
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In college, my economics professor was going through some of the 'phases' of marketing, buildings, shopping centers, etc....

he said we are in the Mall phase now (term he made up) and asked what would replace the Mall, what will take it's place and cause it's downfall?

He was waiting for an answer NO one knew, not even himself. (I'm guessing he was looking for that million dollar idea...)

Little did we know that the internet just in it's infancy would be the downfall.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 5:50:27 PM EDT
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Malls were not a "thing" when I was growing up.
Even when I was in high school and there were malls they weren't the place to be.

The biggest mall where I grew up was "The City", across from Robert Schuller's Crystal Cathedral.  
They tore it down and built it into an outdoor outlet mall.

The next biggest was the Fashion Square mall.
That was torn down and replaced by the MainPlace Mall.

The "local" mall was the Orange Mall.
They tore most of it down and rebuilt it.
It's now the Village at Orange.
It still has a Sears auto repair facility.  

Where I live now the "local" mall (45 minutes away) is a complete shithole.
Almost everything is gone except a Chuck-E-Cheese, a movie theater and a furniture store.
Any shops that could only be accessed from the interior only have closed (the interior of the mall is closed).
It was new in 1989 when I first moved here.
When I came back in 1999 it was a wanna-be gang infested shithole.
The big mall 40 minutes north and the big outlet mall 40 minutes south killed it.




Link Posted: 7/5/2021 5:57:45 PM EDT
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Check out the mall in Akron Ohio.  Use to be one of the best in the country.  Out in the suburbs.

Then the dipshits in government decided it was racist to deny the mall to the diverse inner city demographics.

They started running buses from the city to the mall.

It didn't take long for crime to increase and for the mall to deteriorate.  Completely shut down now and has been for a long time.
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I knew Rolling Acres was going to get mentioned sooner or later.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 6:38:56 PM EDT
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The great metaphor is how the narrative is always that malls failed because of economic conditions or Amazon or some inane bullshit. They'll never speak of how thriving American malls became a place where certain people dropped off their kids all day.
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And the bus stops at the malls eventually brought in an unsavory element that drove away the crowds
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 6:52:21 PM EDT
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That was part of it, but Blockbuster's management just couldn't understand how dramatically their lunch was being stolen.

As they were finally trying to build an online business model, they contracted my company at the time to do media and advertising implementation. The goals (which they wanted to pay us on) were still to drive customers into the stores.  Needless to say, that insertion order got canceled early.
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Took my daughter to the mall on Christmas eve of last year to find a small gift.

I felt undergunned with only 31 rounds.

Malls don't have firearms or hardware stores so there is really no reason for me to go.
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 9:00:04 PM EDT
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Wonder if malls went tits up in other countries also, or if its just a US thing. Last time I was in the UK and NI a couple of years ago, I happened to be in hotels near malls and they were doing great...
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I was in a mall in Prague a couple of years ago and it was doing well.
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Nice, fun movie
Link Posted: 7/5/2021 9:06:19 PM EDT
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The mall around here just went up for auction. It’s been swirling the crapper for a while, surprised it took this long.
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I forgot about the old perverts who would try to show the young guys in stores dick pics.

And how far down the Santa line do you have to be to get the Jasper Mall gig?

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Link Posted: 7/5/2021 9:14:05 PM EDT
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Baybrook mall is still alive and well south of Houston along IH45.
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There used to be many around Pittsburgh
Greensburg, just east of Pittsburgh, had two malls.   The older was torn down many years ago.  It was actually the nicest.  Had a big tropical forest with ponds and streams, and a small food court area.  Lots of different birds in a large cage
The second one had a large section turned into a casino just recently.  I don't got to casinos much, but my mom has been several times, and apparently it is getting decent traffic so far.   What has come out of that is apparently Guy Fieri is a racist, and doesn't pay blacks equal amounts as whites and latinos.   Experience probably has nothing to do with it.

I haven't been to Monroeville mall is a very long time.   I have no desire to be shot.   Although I haven't heard of any shootings there in some time.  Maybe they just stopped reporting on those.

There is also Ross Park Mall in the north Hills, Wexford area.  Only went in there once, to the apple store, to get my new iPad unlocked.
It seemed to be fairly decent, and a lot of occupancy.
Robison Mall bear the airport was OK maybe 5-10 years ago, but it's still fairly new.  
South hills village not sure how it is.  Never went in.   And there was a small Galleria mall near green tree on the way to the airport, not sure what's become of it either.  Used to be more upscale shops.

The other big one was century III mall (I think that was the name) near clairton.   Clairton is a shithole Slum and stinks because of the US Steel  coke making plant.   It closed maybe twenty years ago.   Was vacant for a long time, and I am pretty sure it was torn down.   It was built on a slag pile from the steel mills.   Used to be the big mall in the area, three levels .  Was only ever in there a couple times when I worked down that way for USS.
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Good summary. I grew up going to Greengate and Westmoreland (and Hills). I live up by Beaver Valley mall which appears to be swirling the drain, but Rural King and U-Haul may have halted its demise, for now. JC Penny was on the chopping block, but they decided to keep it open.
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