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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:01:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: At the end of the day, most of the educational outcomes boil down to this: https://i.ibb.co/7VQT1bY/Sketch-4race-transparent.webp CoC violation! Not sure which or why, but you will probably get banned for it, certainly if it ever gets out to the general public... Even though I am not sure that it is 100% accurate, it is close enough that I am stealing it for future use. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:36:04 AM EDT
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IDF: Slain Gazan named as Doctors Without Borders staffer was Islamic Jihad rocket maker. Link
..[a MSF staffer] said in a post on X that al-Wadiya was killed along with five other people, among them three children, while riding his bicycle to the MSF clinic where he worked. [The staffer wrote] “Killing a healthcare worker while on his way to provide vital medical care to wounded victims of the endless massacres across Gaza is beyond shocking; it’s cynical and abhorrent". Israel Defense Forces later in the day confirmed that it had killed al-Wadiya, saying that he was an Islamic Jihad operative involved in developing the terror group’s missiles. Al-Wadiya was involved in “the development and advancement of the organization’s missile array”. Entire article Fadi al-Wadiya, a Doctors Without Borders member who the IDF says was a PIJ rocket expert, killed in a strike in Gaza City, June 25, 2024. Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), or Doctors Without Borders, reported on Tuesday morning that Fadi al-Wadiya was one of its staffers. The organization said in a post on X that al-Wadiya was killed along with five other people, among them three children, while riding his bicycle to the MSF clinic where he worked. “Killing a healthcare worker while on his way to provide vital medical care to wounded victims of the endless massacres across Gaza is beyond shocking; it’s cynical and abhorrent,” Caroline Seguin, the organization’s local operations manager, was quoted saying in a statement. The Israel Defense Forces later in the day confirmed that it had killed al-Wadiya, saying that he was an Islamic Jihad operative involved in developing the terror group’s missiles. Al-Wadiya was involved in “the development and advancement of the organization’s missile array,” the military said in a statement. The IDF said he was also a “source of knowledge” within the Islamic Jihad, in the fields of electronics and chemistry. It published footage of the drone strike in Gaza City. In another strike on Tuesday, the IDF said a Hamas operative involved in smuggling arms to the terror group through the Rafah border crossing and via tunnels passing underground into Egypt, was killed in an airstrike. According to the IDF, Wissam Abu Ishaq was targeted in a drone strike in the southern Gaza Strip. It said that he was involved in running weapons to Hamas, and in recent years, smuggled arms through the Rafah Crossing and cross-border underground routes. Since Israel’s takeover of the so-called Philadelphi Route, the Egypt-Gaza border area, military officials have said that Hamas is no longer able to smuggle weapons into the Strip. A separate airstrike overnight targeted a rocket launching site in southern Gaza’s Rafah, the military said on Wednesday morning. The IDF also said that fighter jets and other aircraft struck dozens more targets across Gaza over the past day, including booby-trapped buildings, buildings used by terror groups, tunnels, and cells of gunmen. IDF: Hamas fired at UNICEF convoy Meanwhile, on Tuesday, Hamas launched mortar shells at Israeli troops escorting a United Nations humanitarian aid convoy in the central Gaza Strip, the military said, publishing footage of the incident. The IDF and COGAT had been coordinating a UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) convoy, part of a mission to reunite children from northern Gaza with their families in the south, according to the military. “During the coordinated activity, the Hamas terrorist organization fired a projectile at the humanitarian route near the UNICEF aid convoy and IDF soldiers securing the area,” it said in a statement. Video published by the IDF shows at least one mortar striking just a few meters from soldiers and a UN vehicle. It said the convoy later proceeded along the route as planned, and there were no injuries in the attack. “Despite the IDF’s attempts to increase humanitarian aid and activities for Gazan residents, Hamas continues to exploit these efforts and endanger the lives of Gazan civilians,” the military added. The war began on October 7 when thousands of Hamas terrorists attacked southern Israel under a barrage of rockets fired at population centers all over the country. They brutally killed 1,200 people, amid multiple instances of torture and rape, and seized 251 hostages. Israel swiftly declared war on Hamas, vowing to topple the terror group’s regime in Gaza and free the hostages. The Hamas-run Gaza health ministry says more than 37,500 people in the Strip have been killed or are presumed dead in the fighting so far, though the toll cannot be verified and does not differentiate between civilians and fighters. Israel says it has killed some 15,000 combatants in battle and some 1,000 terrorists inside Israel during the October 7 attack. Israel has said 315 troops have been killed during the ground offensive against Hamas and amid operations along the Gaza border. The toll includes a police officer killed in a hostage rescue mission. A civilian Defense Ministry contractor has also been killed in the Strip. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:49:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:50:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: NSFW, Russians on fire and being put out of their misery.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:51:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
 Not much changed in 80 years since they stole Karelia from Finland. I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:53:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: You give Trump more credit than he deserves. As far as international politics is concerned, he is retarded. Demanding that NATO pay their contractual obligation. First to send lethal weapons to Ukraine. Turned FBHO's "JV team" ISIS disaster into smoldering rubble. Recognizing that Chy-Na has been eating our lunch. Imposing tariffs. North Korea was about to go hot (like now again) before Trump shut it down and all rocket launches stopped (until now). Getting out of the Paris Climate Accord disaster. Stopped the Iran dick-sucking, got out of the idiotic nuke deal, imposed sanctions on Iranian oil and had them on their knees by 2020. Killed the Salami asshole. Full support for Israel. Recognized the border was open BEFORE the massive flood and secured our border. Amazingly no wars or invasions under Trump. Can you think of any more retarded Trump accomplishments? Compare and contrast to how you guy Xiden is doing... |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:04:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:17:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Demanding that NATO pay their contractual obligation. First to send lethal weapons to Ukraine. Turned FBHO's "JV team" ISIS disaster into smoldering rubble. Recognizing that Chy-Na has been eating our lunch. Imposing tariffs. North Korea was about to go hot (like now again) before Trump shut it down and all rocket launches stopped (until now). Getting out of the Paris Climate Accord disaster. Stopped the Iran dick-sucking, got out of the idiotic nuke deal, imposed sanctions on Iranian oil and had them on their knees by 2020. Killed the Salami asshole. Full support for Israel. Recognized the border was open BEFORE the massive flood and secured our border. Amazingly no wars or invasions under Trump. Can you think of any more retarded Trump accomplishments? Compare and contrast to how you guy Xiden is doing... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: You give Trump more credit than he deserves. As far as international politics is concerned, he is retarded. Demanding that NATO pay their contractual obligation. First to send lethal weapons to Ukraine. Turned FBHO's "JV team" ISIS disaster into smoldering rubble. Recognizing that Chy-Na has been eating our lunch. Imposing tariffs. North Korea was about to go hot (like now again) before Trump shut it down and all rocket launches stopped (until now). Getting out of the Paris Climate Accord disaster. Stopped the Iran dick-sucking, got out of the idiotic nuke deal, imposed sanctions on Iranian oil and had them on their knees by 2020. Killed the Salami asshole. Full support for Israel. Recognized the border was open BEFORE the massive flood and secured our border. Amazingly no wars or invasions under Trump. Can you think of any more retarded Trump accomplishments? Compare and contrast to how you guy Xiden is doing... I credit all of his accomplishments to the team he assembled. On his own, he a walking contradiction. He was smart enough to listen to career experts, military leaders and agency heads when making policy, which actually surprised me. His abrasive statements made in public would have been better served in private. I will plug my nose and vote for him, what other option do I have? The USA Communist Party fully supports the Democrats, they say so in their publications and interviews. I'm not voting for that. Trump needs to have a come to Jesus moment regarding the defense of Ukraine IMO. When has any Republican candidate been lukewarm regarding Russian aggression? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:26:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? For a UA drone operator...probably easy. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:31:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By borderpatrol: I credit all of his accomplishments to the team he assembled. On his own, he a walking contradiction. He was smart enough to listen to career experts, military leaders and agency heads when making policy, which actually surprised me. His abrasive statements made in public would have been better served in private. I will plug my nose and vote for him, what other option do I have? The USA Communist Party fully supports the Democrats, they say so in their publications and interviews. I'm not voting for that. Trump needs to have a come to Jesus moment regarding the defense of Ukraine IMO. When has any Republican candidate been lukewarm regarding Russian aggression? Trump has been saying all of the above for years before running. In some cases (NAFTA, China etc) for DECADES! You can condemn him for his foul mouth, gigantic ego, narcissism, infidelity and sexism but trying to steal his foreign policy is shameless. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:36:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQ9et0nXsAAjKhX?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 Heavy Equipment casualties for Ukrainians. Counterattacks? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:37:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: His admin had the most successful Foreign Policy since 1992. If anyone disagrees, I'd love to know which post cold war admin had a better FP. Both things can be true. Trump individually is an idiot, while the team he had in place accomplished great things. Also, in the current campaign he sounds a bit less focused. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:40:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Not much changed in 80 years since they stole Karelia from Finland. I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? Women, children, elderly, sadly plausible.  |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:41:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: It's anybody's guess what level of sanctions the US would apply over conflict in Taiwan. A total embargo would be the correct response, but it's hard to DC going to that level, especially with so much Chinese penetration of US institutions. And unless the US leadership is pushing diplomatic efforts really hard, Europe is not going to join us. As long as China doesn't trigger NATO Article 5, Europe is likely to prioritize their addiction to cheap Chinese manufacturing over saving liberal democracy in Taiwan. That would leave China's economy in far better shape than American doomers would project, and it's unclear that there's any price PRC would NOT pay to subjugate Taiwan at last. To include establishing sovereign control over a smoking ruin. It's getting to a point where we need them more than they need us, which is why I keep harping the diplomacy to bring all free societies together to stand against the authoritarians. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: https://archive.is/zQuci A long read, I read some and skimmed some. It looks like a lot of hopium. We'll do this, and we'll do that, and our enemies will act the way we expect them to. It lacks substance, IMO. Someone who reads it more closely may correct me or disagree. China's nationalist imperialism is not subject to being reined in, not when China is finally truly becoming a global superpower. They might restrain themselves at the margins (low-intensity fights with Filipino vessels), but they aren't going to stop their plans to conquer Taiwan. With many projecting the next Presidential term as the target date range, whoever wins in 2024 is going to have one of the hardest challenges we've faced - confronting an expansionist nuclear superpower while constrained by economic decline. It's going to be interesting watching china implode their entire economy and political structure over an island. Their banggood capitalist model is full of flaws, and will come to a screeching halt when the west stops buying their shit. It's anybody's guess what level of sanctions the US would apply over conflict in Taiwan. A total embargo would be the correct response, but it's hard to DC going to that level, especially with so much Chinese penetration of US institutions. And unless the US leadership is pushing diplomatic efforts really hard, Europe is not going to join us. As long as China doesn't trigger NATO Article 5, Europe is likely to prioritize their addiction to cheap Chinese manufacturing over saving liberal democracy in Taiwan. That would leave China's economy in far better shape than American doomers would project, and it's unclear that there's any price PRC would NOT pay to subjugate Taiwan at last. To include establishing sovereign control over a smoking ruin. It's getting to a point where we need them more than they need us, which is why I keep harping the diplomacy to bring all free societies together to stand against the authoritarians. I've mentioned this before, a guy with a hammer can destroy a TSMC factory in 20-30 minutes. A guy with a few grenades in minutes. Critical equipment that China is a decade behind in making themselves and will never be able to buy again if they invade. There are 40-50 TSMC factories that the entire GDP of Taiwan depends on. Without them, Taiwan is roughly Vietnam in worldwide presence. Hundreds of billions in Chinese manufacturing depends on those factories as well. The ONLY reason for Xi to invade is to prop up a collapsing economy with a temporary propaganda win. It will be a disaster for both China and Taiwan, but crazy totalitarian dictators have done more insane things in the past. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:42:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eesmith: Kyle's a good guy and an acquaintance of mine, I've written for CSP before and contributed to a monograph on Antifa for them. https://www.amazon.com/Unmasking-Antifa-Perspectives-Growing-Threat/dp/B08M8DRZJZ https://contextualinsurgent.substack.com/ Thank you! Looks like you don't have new episodes, but I got behind before I lost them, I see there are a number of good episodes I should catch up on. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:06:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: I've mentioned this before, a guy with a hammer can destroy a TSMC factory in 20-30 minutes. A guy with a few grenades in minutes. Critical equipment that China is a decade behind in making themselves and will never be able to buy again if they invade. There are 40-50 TSMC factories that the entire GDP of Taiwan depends on. Without them, Taiwan is roughly Vietnam in worldwide presence. Hundreds of billions in Chinese manufacturing depends on those factories as well. The ONLY reason for Xi to invade is to prop up a collapsing economy with a temporary propaganda win. It will be a disaster for both China and Taiwan, but crazy totalitarian dictators have done more insane things in the past. Know how is more important than the physical factories. What one man built another can replicate. China will get the ASML's machines one way or another when they know what to do with them. I'm surprised TSMC has held up to China's espionage efforts. Hope they've got the evacuation plans for the key engineering talent in place. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:18:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Know how is more important than the physical factories. What one man built another can replicate. China will get the ASML's machines one way or another when they know what to do with them. I'm surprised TSMC has held up to China's espionage efforts. Hope they've got the evacuation plans for the key engineering talent in place. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By jwnc: I've mentioned this before, a guy with a hammer can destroy a TSMC factory in 20-30 minutes. A guy with a few grenades in minutes. Critical equipment that China is a decade behind in making themselves and will never be able to buy again if they invade. There are 40-50 TSMC factories that the entire GDP of Taiwan depends on. Without them, Taiwan is roughly Vietnam in worldwide presence. Hundreds of billions in Chinese manufacturing depends on those factories as well. The ONLY reason for Xi to invade is to prop up a collapsing economy with a temporary propaganda win. It will be a disaster for both China and Taiwan, but crazy totalitarian dictators have done more insane things in the past. Know how is more important than the physical factories. What one man built another can replicate. China will get the ASML's machines one way or another when they know what to do with them. I'm surprised TSMC has held up to China's espionage efforts. Hope they've got the evacuation plans for the key engineering talent in place. They actually have setups in place so China doesn't get them. https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/the-worlds-largest-chipmaker-could-flip-a-kill-switch-and-remotely-disable-all-its-machines-in-the-event-of-an-invasion/ TSMC is the world's largest chipmaker, and it produces a massive percentage of the world's advanced computer chips—by some estimates over the past few years, even around 90%. What happens if something were to happen in that part of the world to disturb this chipmaking ability? It'd be catastrophic, of course, but TSMC and its main machine supplier, Dutch company ASML, say the machines wouldn't fall into hostile hands. Citing people close to the matter, Bloomberg reports both TSMC and ASML have ways to disable the lithographic machines located in Taiwan. This kill switch would be able to be remotely activated, should such a drastic action ever be required. Officials from the US government have reportedly spoken to both companies about what might happen in the event of an invasion, with ASML reassuring officials it was able to stop the machines from falling into the wrong hands. The switch applies to the latest EUV machines out of ASML. These are also some of the most complicated, expensive, and sizable chip-making machines around today. The machines themselves have taken years to develop, and even longer to actually implement, though are now responsible for producing the most intricate and powerful computer chips today. EUV machines demand highly trained specialists, components, resources and more in order to function properly. It's extremely unlikely these machines could function anywhere near as effectively as they do today when disconnected from large parts of the world's economy, if that were to be the case. Yet this is all planning for hypothetical situations, nothing is certain. This is an Intel-owned ASML High NA EUV machine. It's different to those run by TSMC for the most part—it's still yet to jump on High NA—but good for an idea of what these machines actually look like. (Image credit: Intel)  Concerns over Taiwan's national security are what have ultimately led to increased spending in chip-making facilities in the US and Europe. The CHIPS Act in the US has agreed to pay huge sums to today's largest chip-making companies, including TSMC, Intel, and Samsung, in order to attract fab facilities to be built, maintained, and expanded on US soil. It seems to be working, too. Though even by today's optimistic outlooks, a very high percentage of processors will still be manufactured in Taiwan for the foreseeable future. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:20:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Not much changed in 80 years since they stole Karelia from Finland. I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? If he was in a blocking detachment, sure... |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:28:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: I've mentioned this before, a guy with a hammer can destroy a TSMC factory in 20-30 minutes. A guy with a few grenades in minutes. Critical equipment that China is a decade behind in making themselves and will never be able to buy again if they invade. There are 40-50 TSMC factories that the entire GDP of Taiwan depends on. Without them, Taiwan is roughly Vietnam in worldwide presence. Hundreds of billions in Chinese manufacturing depends on those factories as well. The ONLY reason for Xi to invade is to prop up a collapsing economy with a temporary propaganda win. It will be a disaster for both China and Taiwan, but crazy totalitarian dictators have done more insane things in the past. TSMC is irrelevant. China has intended to conquer Taiwan since before TSMC existed, they just didn't have capability until recently. You can clearly see in Ukraine what the result is when nationalist/imperialist dogma outweighs reason and morals: war and destruction. The national mythology Beijing has incorporated throughout their society for the last 50+ years requires reunification with Taiwan by any means necessary. What makes China's war for Taiwan a certainty is their status as the #1 industrial manufacturing power, the indispensable nation in the world. They saw with the US in the 20th century what can be accomplished when your nation is economically indispensable to the world, and they are just about to that point. It was posted earlier in the thread that the US accounts for only about 17% of China's export market. If they reasonably believe that the US will be isolated on a trade/sanctions response to Taiwan, if they reasonably believe that such a trade break would be survivable for them (and also maybe devastating to the US) they will launch war for Taiwan, and fully displace the US as a global hegemon. https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/Summarytext https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/2021/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/by-region/Product/Total |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:53:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: TSMC is irrelevant. China has intended to conquer Taiwan since before TSMC existed, they just didn't have capability until recently. You can clearly see in Ukraine what the result is when nationalist/imperialist dogma outweighs reason and morals: war and destruction. The national mythology Beijing has incorporated throughout their society for the last 50+ years requires reunification with Taiwan by any means necessary. What makes China's war for Taiwan a certainty is their status as the #1 industrial manufacturing power, the indispensable nation in the world. They saw with the US in the 20th century what can be accomplished when your nation is economically indispensable to the world, and they are just about to that point. It was posted earlier in the thread that the US accounts for only about 17% of China's export market. If they reasonably believe that the US will be isolated on a trade/sanctions response to Taiwan, if they reasonably believe that such a trade break would be survivable for them (and also maybe devastating to the US) they will launch war for Taiwan, and fully displace the US as a global hegemon. https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/Summarytext https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/2021/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/by-region/Product/Total Nope. The reason that Taiwan is strategic to the US is TSMC. China offers almost nothing besides cheap labor. When sanctions were first implemented by Trump, US companies had to scramble, but quickly set up new suppliers in Malaysia, Vietnam, Mexico and other low wage countries (of which there are many). Per your last link, China's imports to the US are 2% of our economy ($0.5T/$25T). Replacing them would be a mild recession. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:59:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: TSMC is irrelevant. China has intended to conquer Taiwan since before TSMC existed, they just didn't have capability until recently. You can clearly see in Ukraine what the result is when nationalist/imperialist dogma outweighs reason and morals: war and destruction. The national mythology Beijing has incorporated throughout their society for the last 50+ years requires reunification with Taiwan by any means necessary. In these sorts of discussions, we often forget the role that national identity and national pride play. Russia cannot permit the existence of an independent Ukrainian state and separate Ukrainian identity, because that would threaten Russia's claim to being the sole inheritor of Kyiv Rus (which they believe to have been the first Russian state). Post-Soviet Ukrainian identity and especially post-2014 Ukrainian identity is about being distinct from Russia and ridding themselves of their "Little Russian" past. It's why they've renamed cities, removed Soviet monuments, banned Communist symbols, worked towards not speaking Russian, rehabilitated historic nationalists like Shukhevych and Bandera, etc. All of that is a massive insult to Russia's sense of history and self. The Russian invasion was mostly aimed at reversing that and rendering pan-Russian identity dominant again. Taiwan is certainly more influential to the global economy than Ukraine is, and China stands to benefit more economically than Russia did via potentially conquering Ukraine, but we shouldn't underestimate the role played by ideology in terms of desires for national reunification and correcting supposed historical wrongs. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:59:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: So she is actually right? Still, I think there is some projection going on, that Russia has demonstrated with this war it is still willing to take high losses, although the estimates vary per the source. She probably thinks the US is just the same, but maybe she is right there too. If NATO (thereby US) forces become directly involved, the numbers would be high on both sides, even barring the use of WMDs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: The U.S. Armed Forces severely restricts the publication of any U.S. soldiers dead or severely wounded. This has been a SOP for over thirty-five years now. The military learned from Vietnam that you can't serve dead and wounded Americans for desert on TV and expect to get continued public support for any conflict. So she is actually right? Still, I think there is some projection going on, that Russia has demonstrated with this war it is still willing to take high losses, although the estimates vary per the source. She probably thinks the US is just the same, but maybe she is right there too. If NATO (thereby US) forces become directly involved, the numbers would be high on both sides, even barring the use of WMDs. The "severe restriction" is due to the past behavior of the US media. There were entirely too many instances of US media showing up before formal notification and shoving a camera in the face of the families and saying "how do you feel?" It was the complaints of the families that led to the US Army to tighten up notification procedures, so that families had time to notify other relatives, friends, etc. and could take measures to avoid speaking with the media if they so chose. Did the Army take it too far; Of course they did! It's the Army! |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:06:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? He didn't say they were Ukes killed... Who knows, maybe he was a Russian cook? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:24:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: https://i.ibb.co/3rKmLbc/Screen-Shot-2024-06-25-at-9-43-35-PM.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
The Bones are clapped out. Buffs might be older airframes, but they haven't been used as hard. We built a bunch of Buffs during the height of the cold War that ended up mostly sitting around not being flown a lot, so we still have a number of them with a lot of service life left in them. They will end up being in service long past the B-1 and the B-2. Hell they might outlive the B-21 if that program goes sideways. https://i.ibb.co/3rKmLbc/Screen-Shot-2024-06-25-at-9-43-35-PM.png I call BS on that one. They’d have to lighten it a lot to get it airborne on Mars. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:28:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: He didn't say they were Ukes killed... Who knows, maybe he was a Russian cook? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? He didn't say they were Ukes killed... Who knows, maybe he was a Russian cook? Remember, he was Wagner. This # could include Ukrainian civilians, Syrian civilians, Pro-Russians who had stuff, local police, and even household pets!
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:29:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: I call BS on that one. They’d have to lighten it a lot to get it airborne on Mars. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By castlebravo84: Originally Posted By absael: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
The Bones are clapped out. Buffs might be older airframes, but they haven't been used as hard. We built a bunch of Buffs during the height of the cold War that ended up mostly sitting around not being flown a lot, so we still have a number of them with a lot of service life left in them. They will end up being in service long past the B-1 and the B-2. Hell they might outlive the B-21 if that program goes sideways. https://i.ibb.co/3rKmLbc/Screen-Shot-2024-06-25-at-9-43-35-PM.png I call BS on that one. They’d have to lighten it a lot to get it airborne on Mars. Or a lot more thrust! 
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:30:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:32:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Not much changed in 80 years since they stole Karelia from Finland. Kinda telling that he implies that if his family was taken care of he’d be fine with it. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:34:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They actually have setups in place so China doesn't get them. https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/the-worlds-largest-chipmaker-could-flip-a-kill-switch-and-remotely-disable-all-its-machines-in-the-event-of-an-invasion/ https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/DpAN6pGkokPd9Gw7E7xgBZ-970-80.jpg |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:37:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Not much changed in 80 years since they stole Karelia from Finland. I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? Depends on what he did and if they count wounded Russians. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:45:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Trump has been saying all of the above for years before running. In some cases (NAFTA, China etc) for DECADES! You can condemn him for his foul mouth, gigantic ego, narcissism, infidelity and sexism but trying to steal his foreign policy is shameless. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By borderpatrol: I credit all of his accomplishments to the team he assembled. On his own, he a walking contradiction. He was smart enough to listen to career experts, military leaders and agency heads when making policy, which actually surprised me. His abrasive statements made in public would have been better served in private. I will plug my nose and vote for him, what other option do I have? The USA Communist Party fully supports the Democrats, they say so in their publications and interviews. I'm not voting for that. Trump needs to have a come to Jesus moment regarding the defense of Ukraine IMO. When has any Republican candidate been lukewarm regarding Russian aggression? Trump has been saying all of the above for years before running. In some cases (NAFTA, China etc) for DECADES! You can condemn him for his foul mouth, gigantic ego, narcissism, infidelity and sexism but trying to steal his foreign policy is shameless. Trump doesn’t know a damn thing about foreign policy personally. He operates in that like he does in everything, what’s in it for me? What makes me look good to my base? How can I parlay my position into money for the family? Who strokes my ego the hardest? He’ll walk right into Putin’s arms because no one with any chops will serve in his (hypothetical) admin this time around to keep him on the rails. Mark my words. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:54:40 AM EDT
[#32]
vaporized
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:06:20 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: vaporized
This is from a week or two ago |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:06:21 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: vaporized
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:36:18 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: TSMC is irrelevant. China has intended to conquer Taiwan since before TSMC existed, they just didn't have capability until recently. You can clearly see in Ukraine what the result is when nationalist/imperialist dogma outweighs reason and morals: war and destruction. The national mythology Beijing has incorporated throughout their society for the last 50+ years requires reunification with Taiwan by any means necessary. What makes China's war for Taiwan a certainty is their status as the #1 industrial manufacturing power, the indispensable nation in the world. They saw with the US in the 20th century what can be accomplished when your nation is economically indispensable to the world, and they are just about to that point. It was posted earlier in the thread that the US accounts for only about 17% of China's export market. If they reasonably believe that the US will be isolated on a trade/sanctions response to Taiwan, if they reasonably believe that such a trade break would be survivable for them (and also maybe devastating to the US) they will launch war for Taiwan, and fully displace the US as a global hegemon. https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/LTST/Summarytext https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/CHN/Year/2021/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/by-region/Product/Total Agreed. China would rather destroy and lose Taiwan's industrial capacity then allow it to exist independently. As pointed out above, very similar ideology behind the Russian invasion of Ukraine...sure they would love to obtain all the juicy industry, agriculture, etc. but primary goal is to destroy it. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:45:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: I've mentioned this before, a guy with a hammer can destroy a TSMC factory in 20-30 minutes. A guy with a few grenades in minutes. Critical equipment that China is a decade behind in making themselves and will never be able to buy again if they invade. There are 40-50 TSMC factories that the entire GDP of Taiwan depends on. Without them, Taiwan is roughly Vietnam in worldwide presence. Hundreds of billions in Chinese manufacturing depends on those factories as well. The ONLY reason for Xi to invade is to prop up a collapsing economy with a temporary propaganda win. It will be a disaster for both China and Taiwan, but crazy totalitarian dictators have done more insane things in the past. Shoot, a couple pennies in the right places can take down the Fab. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:49:33 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Women, children, elderly, sadly plausible. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Not much changed in 80 years since they stole Karelia from Finland. I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? Women, children, elderly, sadly plausible. Dude never specified soldiers or combatants. I have no doubt he killed tons of people. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:07:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Germany has told its citizens to GTFO of Lebanon while the gettin’ is still good.
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:21:59 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Not much changed in 80 years since they stole Karelia from Finland. I wonder if killing 200 is really plausible? I doubt he killed anyone. More likely he murdered and massacred defenseless civilians. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:37:19 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They actually have setups in place so China doesn't get them. https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/the-worlds-largest-chipmaker-could-flip-a-kill-switch-and-remotely-disable-all-its-machines-in-the-event-of-an-invasion/ https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/DpAN6pGkokPd9Gw7E7xgBZ-970-80.jpg That's not what I meant. About a decade ago Russia bought used 65nm lithography machines (from German AMD?) and I'm not sure they got them to run right to this day. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 1:50:05 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: That's not what I meant. About a decade ago Russia bought used 65nm lithography machines (from German AMD?) and I'm not sure they got them to run right to this day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: They actually have setups in place so China doesn't get them. https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/the-worlds-largest-chipmaker-could-flip-a-kill-switch-and-remotely-disable-all-its-machines-in-the-event-of-an-invasion/ https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/DpAN6pGkokPd9Gw7E7xgBZ-970-80.jpg That's not what I meant. About a decade ago Russia bought used 65nm lithography machines (from German AMD?) and I'm not sure they got them to run right to this day. Ahh, I see, they mentioned the same problem in the article of running the machines effectively without skilled workers. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:06:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: castlebravo84]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scooter_trash: Shoot, a couple pennies in the right places can take down the Fab. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scooter_trash: Originally Posted By jwnc: I've mentioned this before, a guy with a hammer can destroy a TSMC factory in 20-30 minutes. A guy with a few grenades in minutes. Critical equipment that China is a decade behind in making themselves and will never be able to buy again if they invade. There are 40-50 TSMC factories that the entire GDP of Taiwan depends on. Without them, Taiwan is roughly Vietnam in worldwide presence. Hundreds of billions in Chinese manufacturing depends on those factories as well. The ONLY reason for Xi to invade is to prop up a collapsing economy with a temporary propaganda win. It will be a disaster for both China and Taiwan, but crazy totalitarian dictators have done more insane things in the past. Shoot, a couple pennies in the right places can take down the Fab. Even if China could take the fab intact and get all of the Taiwanese people that help run it to fully cooperate with them, it will still shut down when some of the #overninethousand foreign comapanies that support it decide to pull out, and I doubt any of them want to sign their IP over to the PRC. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:06:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Demanding that NATO pay their contractual obligation. I know there have been a number of summits in which defense ministers/countries have "pledge" or "agreed" to meet the 2% spending goal, but every NATO publication I have seen refers to the 2% as a GUIDELINE. So I am not sure that calling it a "contractual obligation" is correct. That said, I totally agree with you that all NATO countries absolutely SHOULD be spending 2%. I am just being pedantic about the language. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: I know there have been a number of summits in which defense ministers/countries have "pledge" or "agreed" to meet the 2% spending goal, but every NATO publication I have seen refers to the 2% as a GUIDELINE. So I am not sure that calling it a "contractual obligation" is correct. That said, I totally agree with you that all NATO countries absolutely SHOULD be spending 2%. I am just being pedantic about the language. Didnt most NATO countries now exceed that #? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:15:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:19:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jaehaerys]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: Didnt most NATO countries now exceed that #? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: I know there have been a number of summits in which defense ministers/countries have "pledge" or "agreed" to meet the 2% spending goal, but every NATO publication I have seen refers to the 2% as a GUIDELINE. So I am not sure that calling it a "contractual obligation" is correct. That said, I totally agree with you that all NATO countries absolutely SHOULD be spending 2%. I am just being pedantic about the language. Didnt most NATO countries now exceed that #?
Click to see the graph. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:30:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:36:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: I know there have been a number of summits in which defense ministers/countries have "pledge" or "agreed" to meet the 2% spending goal, but every NATO publication I have seen refers to the 2% as a GUIDELINE. So I am not sure that calling it a "contractual obligation" is correct. That said, I totally agree with you that all NATO countries absolutely SHOULD be spending 2%. I am just being pedantic about the language. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Demanding that NATO pay their contractual obligation. I know there have been a number of summits in which defense ministers/countries have "pledge" or "agreed" to meet the 2% spending goal, but every NATO publication I have seen refers to the 2% as a GUIDELINE. So I am not sure that calling it a "contractual obligation" is correct. That said, I totally agree with you that all NATO countries absolutely SHOULD be spending 2%. I am just being pedantic about the language. Let's be realistic. The biggest change in the graph was due to Ukraine and not Trump. Going back even farther Robert Gates pointed out the Euro's deficiency in defense spending. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:53:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:59:03 PM EDT
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   T-62s with some add-ons. |
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