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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:00:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Uh, no. The EU has not set up manufacturing facilities to make drones in Russia. Iran tried but there's no evidence that the Russian plant has produced a single one (probably because the rooskies tried to stiff the Iranians by not paying like they did with India on their so-called "joint" fighter development). ChinaIsAsshoe has been opportunistically selling components to both sides. So, in that sense ChinaIsAsshoe is helping Ukraine more than Russia. Where did I say the EU set up drones manufacturing facilities in Russia??? lol that’s a ridiculous claim. I said the EU sends them billions of dollars daily. The ISW has said the Iran drone facility in Russia is operational. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:00:42 PM EDT
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“There’s no doubt that #Hezbollah crossed all red lines… We are now facing an all-out war.”
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:01:55 PM EDT
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Israeli Minister of National Security, Itamar Ben-Gvir calls for Prime Minister Netanyahu to convene the Cabinet now by Encrypted Phone, and to Declare a State of War against Hezbollah.
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:03:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:04:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: “In an interview with BBC News, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said: "What's not happening is the provision of actual arms by China to Russia for use in Ukraine." However, China has been accused of building up Moscow's war machine by providing critical components. Mr Blinken said: "Those are being used to help Russia on what's an extraordinary crash course effort to make more munitions, tanks, armoured vehicles, missiles." About 70% of the machine tools and 90% of the microelectronics Russia imports come from China, he added.” It is very much in Chinas interests to help Russia and they are obviously. It’s also obvious that you do not understand the geopolitical landscape. I’ll continue to post and correct you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By Capta: I’ve already read them and acknowledge that Russia has and is finding workarounds. But you’re overstating your case, perhaps deliberately. Any reasonable interpretation of Chinese actions (which is the only issue of real importance) shows that their help has been tepid and that they are concerned with feathering their own nest, not helping Russia. “In an interview with BBC News, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said: "What's not happening is the provision of actual arms by China to Russia for use in Ukraine." However, China has been accused of building up Moscow's war machine by providing critical components. Mr Blinken said: "Those are being used to help Russia on what's an extraordinary crash course effort to make more munitions, tanks, armoured vehicles, missiles." About 70% of the machine tools and 90% of the microelectronics Russia imports come from China, he added.” It is very much in Chinas interests to help Russia and they are obviously. It’s also obvious that you do not understand the geopolitical landscape. I’ll continue to post and correct you.  It is in China's interests to watch Russia degrade into irrelevance since they are the only other country besides the US that (could have) challenged ChinaIsAsshoe for world dominance and influence. Further, they are selling Ukraine "critical" microelectronics as well. ChinaIsAsshoe only care about themselves. It is actually obvious that it is you that does not understand the geopolitical landscape. 
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:08:20 PM EDT
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Post See new posts Conversation Andrew Perpetua @AndrewPerpetua Here are losses I could identify for yesterday: Russians (94, 57 are combat assets): Artillery (34) 31 Russian howitzers were damaged counter-battery fire. 27 of which used fpv drones in the counter-battery role, three from shelling. In addition to those, 3 artillery pieces were destroyed Air Defense (1) 1 Pantsir destroyed Tanks (5) 1 Tank was abandoned and 2 more destroyed. 2 more were damaged by drones. IFVs (8) 2 Abandoned, 6 Destroyed APCs (9) 3 Abandoned, 5 Destroyed 15 transports destroyed, 2 of which were trucks Ukrainians (33, 21 are combat assets): Radar (1) 1 Counter-battery radar destroyed Artillery (6) 1 Artillery piece was destroyed, perhaps a second, the rest were damaged Tanks (4) 3 Destroyed, 1 Damaged APCs (8) 1 Abandoned, 4 Destroyed MRAPs (2) 1 Captured, 1 Abandoned 4 transports destroyed 
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:09:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: The pictures are graphic. This definitely is going to push Israel over the edge. Lebanon is going to look like gaza soon. Oh no! |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:09:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: It is in China's interests to watch Russia degrade into irrelevance since they are the only other country besides the US that (could have) challenged ChinaIsAsshoe for world dominance and influence. Further, they are selling Ukraine "critical" microelectronics as well. ChinaIsAsshoe only care about themselves. It is actually obvious that it is you that does not understand the geopolitical landscape. Link your sources on China providing Ukraine these critical microelectronics https://apnews.com/article/united-states-china-russia-ukraine-war-265df843be030b7183c95b6f3afca8ec |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:09:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: michigan66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: The pictures are graphic. This definitely is going to push Israel over the edge. Lebanon is going to look like gaza soon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 40 minutes ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTgku80WgAAC_5L?format=jpg&name=small
The pictures are graphic. This definitely is going to push Israel over the edge. Lebanon is going to look like gaza soon. Indeed. Lebanon and Hezbollah have been warned for the last 18 years. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: “There’s no doubt that #Hezbollah crossed all red lines… We are now facing an all-out war.” - #Israel’s Foreign Minister We’ll find out if Iran matches its boasts for the last year then |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:26:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By michigan66:
Team Biden responded by turning jet fuel and bombs into noise
I heard it was 10 rockets but will get interesting if Trump returns to the White House and tells Iran dominated Baghdad to fuck off on the 2025 withdrawal demand. Trump is not particularly soft on Iran |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:29:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Where did I say the EU set up drones manufacturing facilities in Russia??? lol that’s a ridiculous claim. I said the EU sends them billions of dollars daily. The ISW has said the Iran drone facility in Russia is operational. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By planemaker: Uh, no. The EU has not set up manufacturing facilities to make drones in Russia. Iran tried but there's no evidence that the Russian plant has produced a single one (probably because the rooskies tried to stiff the Iranians by not paying like they did with India on their so-called "joint" fighter development). ChinaIsAsshoe has been opportunistically selling components to both sides. So, in that sense ChinaIsAsshoe is helping Ukraine more than Russia. Where did I say the EU set up drones manufacturing facilities in Russia??? lol that’s a ridiculous claim. I said the EU sends them billions of dollars daily. The ISW has said the Iran drone facility in Russia is operational. "Every single EU country that sends them billions of dollars. The institute for the study of war which is quoted here daily has very publicly stated how countries have set up manufacturing facilities to make drones etc… in Russia." What other interpretation of what you wrote should one take? Perhaps re-phrasing would have been better. Or, perhaps paragraphs which would have made it more clear. And, as for ISW claiming the plant is "operational", what few images from the plant have emerged do not show a single fully assembled vehicle coming from the plant. So, exactly what do they actually do at that plant to make it "operational". |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:33:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: planemaker]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Link your sources on China providing Ukraine these critical microelectronics https://apnews.com/article/united-states-china-russia-ukraine-war-265df843be030b7183c95b6f3afca8ec Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By planemaker: It is in China's interests to watch Russia degrade into irrelevance since they are the only other country besides the US that (could have) challenged ChinaIsAsshoe for world dominance and influence. Further, they are selling Ukraine "critical" microelectronics as well. ChinaIsAsshoe only care about themselves. It is actually obvious that it is you that does not understand the geopolitical landscape. Link your sources on China providing Ukraine these critical microelectronics https://apnews.com/article/united-states-china-russia-ukraine-war-265df843be030b7183c95b6f3afca8ec Where do you think most Pixhawk autopilots, which contain sensors and other critical microelectronics for drones, actually come from? Here's a hint, it's ChinaIsAsshoe. Where do you think most drone electric motors and motor speed controllers (which have critical microelectronics in them) come from? Here's a hint, it's ChinaIsAsshoe. Where do you think most of the FPV airframe parts, cameras, comm links, and GCS units come from? You get the idea. ETA: Go back thru this thread and the previous one to look at the stacks of drones Ukraine was showing. Those units didn't get parts from Ace Hardware. Early in the war there were news articles about how many DJI units were being sold to Ukraine vs Russia. ChinaIsAsshoe is still selling them to both sides. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 2:56:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: We’ll find out if Iran matches its boasts for the last year then Yep. Is Iran willing to risk it all to save its favorite child? Like you said we’ll find out soon. The US also just started to fly RQ-4 Global Hawk flights along Lebanon’s border again a few days ago. Last time we did was in December. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:02:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:07:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:16:40 PM EDT
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2 minutes ago.
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:17:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:17:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 2 minutes ago.
FAFO |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:22:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ITCHY-FINGER]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Israeli Minister of National Security, Itamar Ben-Gvir calls for Prime Minister Netanyahu to convene the Cabinet now by Encrypted Phone, and to Declare a State of War against Hezbollah. Its a matter of time...I think the main question is does Israel wait for the US election, gambling on favorable results. edit: I guess they are NOT waiting!! |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:23:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:24:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 2 minutes ago.
Get some! |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:24:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTg_6scXYAAYQti?format=jpg&name=900x900 One more failure on their watch But diplomacy…… |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:24:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Yep. Things are going well in the reserves department. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: FAFO Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 2 minutes ago.
FAFO That was fast.
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:24:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Sucks for the half of Lebanese who want nothing to do with Iran or Hezbollah |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:26:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: I heard it was 10 rockets but will get interesting if Trump returns to the White House and tells Iran dominated Baghdad to fuck off on the 2025 withdrawal demand. Trump is not particularly soft on Iran Iraq will become kinda like ReForGer...Every few years the US conducts military exercises to practice invading Iraq... p.s. Fuck that place. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:27:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: That was fast.
Just in time for the elections. Wonder how much this will affect the far left vote if any. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:34:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: One more failure on their watch But diplomacy…… Escalation management! When Europe, the ME, AND Taiwan, S. China Sea are all in flames, what will they do next to avoid escalation? |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:37:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Iraq will become kinda like ReForGer...Every few years the US conducts military exercises to practice invading Iraq... p.s. Fuck that place. Iraq boasted it was going to kick troops out after Soleimani got waxed. Trump for all his faults, told them shut the fuck up and here we are 4 years later with Baghdad demanding 2025 withdrawal from Biden for responding to attacks that killed 3 US soldiers. Iran thinks it can keep this “asymmetric “ grey zone bullshit indefinitely but I doubt it. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:38:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Just in time for the elections. Wonder how much this will affect the far left vote if any. The far left will just believe that it's all just Trumps fault like the Afghan withdrawal, open border, Feb 2022 invasion, and inflation. The question is what will the 3% "independent/undecided" think about it. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:40:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Iraq boasted it was going to kick troops out after Soleimani got waxed. Trump for all his faults, told them shit the fuck up and here we are 4 years later with Baghdad demanding 2025 withdrawal from Biden for responding to attacks that killed 3 US soldiers. Iran thinks it can keep this “asymmetric “ grey zone bullshit indefinitely but I doubt it. "We are getting bored and need to practice invading 3rd world shitholes again" #Trump to Iraq |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 3:48:04 PM EDT
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The Roosevelt and 3 Burke’s are in the Persian Gulf. They are definitely in a good position to hit Iran or to help shoot down missiles from Iran.
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:15:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Link your sources on China providing Ukraine these critical microelectronics https://apnews.com/article/united-states-china-russia-ukraine-war-265df843be030b7183c95b6f3afca8ec Who else makes and sells the motors for the drones in the quantities they are using? |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:16:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:17:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: That was fast.
I wonder if targeting the Druze this time made a difference. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:17:45 PM EDT
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Israeli telegram is saying 12 dead and they're all kids who were playing soccer.
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:22:12 PM EDT
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Short video of Ukrainians training others on the Bradleys. CC then translate will get you the gist.
 ??? «Bradley»: ???????? ???????? ??????? | ?????????? ???????? ?????????? ?????? |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:24:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs: Israeli telegram is saying 12 dead and they're all kids who were playing soccer. Fuck! |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:25:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:28:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mal_means_bad]
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BAMAKO, July 27 (Reuters) - Mali's northern Tuareg rebels said they had killed and injured dozens of soldiers and Wagner mercenaries in two days of fighting near the Algerian border, after the army said it had lost two soldiers but killed some 20 rebels
Looks like the Tuaregs weren't lying, NSFW literal piles of dead and incinerated Wagner being looted:
https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1817282576395997628?s=46&t=7aOcm-ZJJP8PIWZBDPgauw They got fucked up real bad. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:32:13 PM EDT
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Interesting report here.
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:32:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Escalation management! When Europe, the ME, AND Taiwan, S. China Sea are all in flames, what will they do next to avoid escalation? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: One more failure on their watch But diplomacy…… Escalation management! When Europe, the ME, AND Taiwan, S. China Sea are all in flames, what will they do next to avoid escalation? Fuck up Central and South America. I'd include Africa, but it's Africa, so... yeah. 
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:35:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: michigan66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Fuck! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By Schmigs: Israeli telegram is saying 12 dead and they're all kids who were playing soccer. Fuck!
A Hezbollah rocket hit a soccer field this evening (July 27, 1830) in the Druze Israeli village of Majdal Shams at the foot of Mount Hermon. 11 children were killed as a result of the rocket impact and many more were injured while playing soccer. The rocket was fired as part of a barrage of dozens of rockets fired by Hezbollah into the Hermon area. Hezbollah took responsibility for firing this volley in a statement issued on its behalf at 1930. In a separate statement, Hezbollah denied involvement in the rocket hitting Majdal Shams. Of course this is a lie and manipulation. The type of weapon used by Hezbollah in the greatest quantity and frequency so far is rockets (Grads/Falaqs/Burkans). This is an inaccurate weapon that Hezbollah fires and endangers civilian communities indiscriminately. Hezbollah is well aware of this. Even a populated town will not stop Hezbollah from firing. Hezbollah has no problem harming civilians intentionally. This also includes the citizens of Lebanon with their human shield tactic. From the analysis of the operational systems in the IDF, it appears that the launch to the Majdal Shams center was carried out from an area located north of the village of Chebaa in southern Lebanon.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:39:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: BAMAKO, July 27 (Reuters) - Mali's northern Tuareg rebels said they had killed and injured dozens of soldiers and Wagner mercenaries in two days of fighting near the Algerian border, after the army said it had lost two soldiers but killed some 20 rebels Looks like the Tuaregs weren't lying, NSFW literal piles of dead and incinerated Wagner being looted:
https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1817282576395997628?s=46&t=7aOcm-ZJJP8PIWZBDPgauw They got fucked up real bad.  Noice. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 4:43:38 PM EDT
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I'm trying to figure out how the US can approve Israel to retaliate for the kids getting killed, but doesn't allow Ukraine the same courtesy when a children's cancer hospital gets hit.
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Posted: 7/27/2024 5:05:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
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Posted: 7/27/2024 5:08:34 PM EDT
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Col. Avichay Adraee, the IDF's Arabic-language spokesman, reveals the name of the Hezbollah commander who directed the deadly rocket attack on Majdal Shams. He says the attack was directed by Ali Muhammad Yahya, who is the commander of a rocket launching site in the Chebaa area in southern Lebanon. "Despite its attempts to deny: Hezbollah is responsible for the massacre in Majdal Shams and the killing of children and boys on the soccer field," Adraee adds. |
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Posted: 7/27/2024 5:16:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: BAMAKO, July 27 (Reuters) - Mali's northern Tuareg rebels said they had killed and injured dozens of soldiers and Wagner mercenaries in two days of fighting near the Algerian border, after the army said it had lost two soldiers but killed some 20 rebels Looks like the Tuaregs weren't lying, NSFW literal piles of dead and incinerated Wagner being looted:
https://x.com/maks_nafo_fella/status/1817282576395997628?s=46&t=7aOcm-ZJJP8PIWZBDPgauw They got fucked up real bad. Russians dying in Mali? What a surprise, whose tuaregs are so good at warfare 
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