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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:28:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: It's going to suck in a conflict when quad copters with nades.blow a hole in the roof and then enter to wreck all the validated.molds and machinery. That's a great point. Asymmetric attacks are critical. Protecting sensitive industrial facilities from drone attacks needs to be a thing. We need to see some of those anti-drone EW guns available on Amazon for public use, even if you have to get a FCC or FAA license to operate them. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:35:22 PM EST
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Economist used to be good in the 90s but like much of media went downhill but this article highlights what I was referring to previously https://www.economist.com/asia/2024/09/05/taiwan-is-trying-to-learn-from-the-wars-in-gaza-and-ukraine
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:35:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Thanks for the news updates guys, sorry I am unable to contribute like I did. Suddenly got really busy the past few days. A project I was supposed to work on in June was delayed and looks like I am doing it now.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:44:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: LOL 1004ET Ukraine appreciates all the American support given to our state and our people. And we have strong cooperation not only at the national level - between Ukraine and the USA - but also in relations with American states, between our communities, between our people. All this strengthens both Ukraine and America, our positions in the world, our economies, our societies. Another important partnership document was signed today - the Memorandum of Cooperation between the Zhytomyr region and the state of Indiana. The document envisages the development of economic ties and investments, strengthening of trade relations and exchange of experience in the agricultural sector and high-tech production. Thanks to the governor of the state of Indiana, Eric Holcomb, for his comprehensive support of Ukraine! https://t.me/V_Zelenskiy_official/11551 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By kpacman: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Ukraine is the antithesis of America. The people like me from the Midwest don’t share values with those descendants of the red army on both sides killing each other. It’s not our problem. Build more nukes and civil defense for the American people eff the EU and its inductees Who elected you as spokesperson for the entire mid-West? You are one individual isolationist who holds views that are actually a minority position throughout this country. If we continue to provide aid to Ukraine and Russia continues to be degraded militarily, we might not have to budget all that money to build more nukes and civil defense you so desperately want. LOL 1004ET Ukraine appreciates all the American support given to our state and our people. And we have strong cooperation not only at the national level - between Ukraine and the USA - but also in relations with American states, between our communities, between our people. All this strengthens both Ukraine and America, our positions in the world, our economies, our societies. Another important partnership document was signed today - the Memorandum of Cooperation between the Zhytomyr region and the state of Indiana. The document envisages the development of economic ties and investments, strengthening of trade relations and exchange of experience in the agricultural sector and high-tech production. Thanks to the governor of the state of Indiana, Eric Holcomb, for his comprehensive support of Ukraine! https://t.me/V_Zelenskiy_official/11551 I can tell you that the majority in Missouri is against the spending. I support US defense of Taiwan and I am shocked at the amount of Trump voting Republicans that are against all support for Taiwan and Ukraine. The Obama-Biden Democrats are the reason Russia is in Ukraine to begin with. If Ukraine hadn’t meddled in our domestic politics they wouldn’t be in the situation they are in now. They weakened Trump and help defeat him in the election. That memorandum of understanding is just another example of that groups meddling. We need a more sophisticated and larger nuclear arsenal regardless of the outcome between Russia and Ukraine. We need fallout shelters and better civil defense against Nuclear and especially biological attack. The Chinese and Russians let alone Iran represent a serious threat and we are almost totally at their mercy. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:46:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: Frontiercowboy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: It's the try hard of trying to get people to be MAD. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: The Russians are definitely bad guys and so is the Ukrainian government that named a main Street in Kiev after Joe Biden. I work for my money sometimes 7 days a week and those guys are getting rich while men on both sides are dying and the American tax payer is getting turned into slaves. I hate the eurosocialisy scum too. Macron, whoever's in charge in Germany the Nordic countries where a man isn't allowed to piss standing up! But yeah Russia and Chine need to be destroyed first, then France. Also, Tim Poole is being slandered. I listen to him he's a good American. It's the try hard of trying to get people to be MAD. Why would that make you mad? Do you love Biden, Macron, China and Russia? Or are you a Nordic feminist? Edit- You mean Mutually Assured Destruction? No, if we have proper civil defense and a good offensive capability we don’t need to consider MAD a thing. You read me opposite. I’m not what you think. I want to win and marginalize or destroy all the communists and socialists. Leaving the American people open to attack by anyone who walks across the border or can send an icbm our way is neglegance. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:46:21 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:48:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks for the news updates guys, sorry I am unable to contribute like I did. Suddenly got really busy the past few days. A project I was supposed to work on in June was delayed and looks like I am doing it now. I know how that goes. I’m coming up on similar soon myself |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:53:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Why would that make you mad? Do you love Biden, Macron, China and Russia? Or are you a Nordic feminist? I'll speak for myself but your behavior is obnoxious and an embarrassment to grown men who want to have adult level conversations about the subject matter in this thread. That you are so oblivious to how absurd you sound should give you pause but if you did, you would most likely continue anyways as you seem more interested in shit posting than participating. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 3:56:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks for the news updates guys, sorry I am unable to contribute like I did. Suddenly got really busy the past few days. A project I was supposed to work on in June was delayed and looks like I am doing it now. UNACCEPTABLE 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:00:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: I'll speak for myself but your behavior is obnoxious and an embarrassment to grown men who want to have adult level conversations about the subject matter in this thread. That you are so oblivious to how absurd you sound should give you pause but if you did, you would most likely continue anyways as you seem more interested in shit posting than participating. As you said...not interested in adult level conversation, just shit posting and "ruffling feathers". |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:00:36 PM EST
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If anyone is looking for another means to keep up with geopolitical events that isn't constantly trolled by poop-slinging Gremlins, I'd suggest checking out the /r/credibledefense daily megathread on reddit. Yeah, it's reddit, but the mods are pretty good and the standard of discussion is pretty high. The shit that's gone on for the last few pages certainly would not have been tolerated.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:02:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: He's bragging in another thread "We are [...] and ruffling feathers in the Ukraine thread lol" As you said...not interested in adult level conversation, just shit posting and "ruffling feathers". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By blueballs: I'll speak for myself but your behavior is obnoxious and an embarrassment to grown men who want to have adult level conversations about the subject matter in this thread. That you are so oblivious to how absurd you sound should give you pause but if you did, you would most likely continue anyways as you seem more interested in shit posting than participating. As you said...not interested in adult level conversation, just shit posting and "ruffling feathers". @Zhukov |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:06:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Great article at link here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Great article at link here. People are reporting each other to the authorities left and right in Melitopol. A neighbor could come by your apartment and hear you speaking Ukrainian at any moment. It’s getting harder and harder to hide. They tap people’s phones, and there’s a constant risk of them stopping parents on the street and checking what’s on their phones. Russia is just defending the rights of Russian speaker who were oppressed by the regime in Kyiv. Russia is totally not interested in genocide against the nation and people of Ukraine. 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:06:16 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:13:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: I know how that goes. I’m coming up on similar soon myself Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks for the news updates guys, sorry I am unable to contribute like I did. Suddenly got really busy the past few days. A project I was supposed to work on in June was delayed and looks like I am doing it now. I know how that goes. I’m coming up on similar soon myself  We seem to have other good contributors even if we are out of the picture for a bit. God my sentences are bad, I must be tired. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:14:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: UNACCEPTABLE Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks for the news updates guys, sorry I am unable to contribute like I did. Suddenly got really busy the past few days. A project I was supposed to work on in June was delayed and looks like I am doing it now. UNACCEPTABLE lol, I'll be here in the evenings at least daily.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:17:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: I'll speak for myself but your behavior is obnoxious and an embarrassment to grown men who want to have adult level conversations about the subject matter in this thread. That you are so oblivious to how absurd you sound should give you pause but if you did, you would most likely continue anyways as you seem more interested in shit posting than participating. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Why would that make you mad? Do you love Biden, Macron, China and Russia? Or are you a Nordic feminist? I'll speak for myself but your behavior is obnoxious and an embarrassment to grown men who want to have adult level conversations about the subject matter in this thread. That you are so oblivious to how absurd you sound should give you pause but if you did, you would most likely continue anyways as you seem more interested in shit posting than participating. All right. If Ukraine wins you are empowering the socialist EU which holds values opposite my own. We can look forward to an ever stronger Macron, Labor government in Britain, Canada, Poland, Hungary, Spain, just about everything. This to me isn’t about Russian aggression as much as it is about the US-deep state and European socialists remaining in control of us. If this was about protecting the interests of the American people we’d be protecting the southern border. Your side argues out of both sides of your mouth. You can’t have Ukrainian nationalism and join the EU. The EU is moving towards becoming more centralized and anti national every year. I don’t support sending my money to protect European values. Let them pay. France has nukes. Let macron send his tax payer’s money. We shouldn’t have left Afghanistan and I’d go back. No nation building. Plant the flag at those air bases. That was far more valuable against China and Russia than Eastern Ukraine. In my estimation China is far more aggressive than Russia. I see Russia as Chinas pawn. When Russia is sufficiently weakened China will move on Russia. They think on a long time horizon. You might want to see China move into eastern Russia when Putin collapses but in another generation you will regret it. Not enough space for a serious conversation. I am mad. No MAD, prepare and win if necessary. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:19:05 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:22:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: We seem to have other have good contributors even if we are out of the picture for a bit. Yeah, I’m sure 87% of what we’d be posting will get covered while we’re gone. It’s the 13% people might miss but that’s how the cookie crumbles. Prime and everyone will hold the fort down but the basis of the thread - the axis that’s not changing just the details of what they’re up to and how that’s being addressed or not addressed. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:23:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: He's bragging in another thread "We are [...] and ruffling feathers in the Ukraine thread lol" As you said...not interested in adult level conversation, just shit posting and "ruffling feathers". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By blueballs: I'll speak for myself but your behavior is obnoxious and an embarrassment to grown men who want to have adult level conversations about the subject matter in this thread. That you are so oblivious to how absurd you sound should give you pause but if you did, you would most likely continue anyways as you seem more interested in shit posting than participating. As you said...not interested in adult level conversation, just shit posting and "ruffling feathers". Your side called me a Russian agent and then retarded. I’m happy to stay on your topic I have a lot of questions and input to add. I’m not the one that lowered the level of discourse to that level. I’m actually not against Ukraine or the Ukrainian cause to get the eastern provinces back just the leaders that helped take trump out in 2020 I will never forget that. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:25:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: Gudabeg]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: All right. If Ukraine wins you are empowering the socialist EU which holds values opposite my own. We can look forward to an ever stronger Macron, Labor government in Britain, Canada, Poland, Hungary, Spain, just about everything. This to me isn’t about Russian aggression as much as it is about the US-deep state and European socialists remaining in control of us. If this was about protecting the interests of the American people we’d be protecting the southern border. Your side argues out of both sides of your mouth. You can’t have Ukrainian nationalism and join the EU. The EU is moving towards becoming more centralized and anti national every year. I don’t support sending my money to protect European values. Let them pay. France has nukes. Let macron send his tax payer’s money. We shouldn’t have left Afghanistan and I’d go back. No nation building. Plant the flag at those air bases. That was far more valuable against China and Russia than Eastern Ukraine. In my estimation China is far more aggressive than Russia. I see Russia as Chinas pawn. When Russia is sufficiently weakened China will move on Russia. They think on a long time horizon. You might want to see China move into eastern Russia when Putin collapses but in another generation you will regret it. Not enough space for a serious conversation. I am mad. No MAD, prepare and win if necessary. Having more nationalist countries in the EU like Ukraine helps stop the crazies in France and Germany. Also, you can vote your way out of the EU. You can’t vote your way out of Russian occupation. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:30:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: If anyone is looking for another means to keep up with geopolitical events that isn't constantly trolled by poop-slinging Gremlins, I'd suggest checking out the /r/credibledefense daily megathread on reddit. Yeah, it's reddit, but the mods are pretty good and the standard of discussion is pretty high. The shit that's gone on for the last few pages certainly would not have been tolerated. Maybe you are a better fit for Reddit. Too many retarded Trump voters here. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:33:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: All right. If Ukraine wins you are empowering the socialist EU which holds values opposite my own. We can look forward to an ever stronger Macron, Labor government in Britain, Canada, Poland, Hungary, Spain, just about everything. This to me isn’t about Russian aggression as much as it is about the US-deep state and European socialists remaining in control of us. If this was about protecting the interests of the American people we’d be protecting the southern border. Your side argues out of both sides of your mouth. You can’t have Ukrainian nationalism and join the EU. The EU is moving towards becoming more centralized and anti national every year. I don’t support sending my money to protect European values. Let them pay. France has nukes. Let macron send his tax payer’s money. We shouldn’t have left Afghanistan and I’d go back. No nation building. Plant the flag at those air bases. That was far more valuable against China and Russia than Eastern Ukraine. In my estimation China is far more aggressive than Russia. I see Russia as Chinas pawn. When Russia is sufficiently weakened China will move on Russia. They think on a long time horizon. You might want to see China move into eastern Russia when Putin collapses but in another generation you will regret it. Not enough space for a serious conversation. I am mad. No MAD, prepare and win if necessary. If Russia somehow took over 100% of Europe or only Ukraine, would what change? Would Europe then no longer be socialist? What form of government and economy is Russia? How does Russia seizing Ukraine or Europe free the USA from deep state control? I can raise many points on why policy on Ukraine should be changed but none of my points would overlap with yours. As anyone involved with international relations and geopolitics knows, you have to grasp the pros and cons of everything like a lawyer in a courtroom so you can better advocate for your position, that’s why I read TASS, Xinhua and Mehr. Not to absorb their propaganda but to understand their propaganda. One must know their enemy to defeat their enemy. Anyway, how does what you’re advocating translate into positive outcomes for the USA? |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:33:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Your side called me a Russian agent and then retarded. I’m happy to stay on your topic I have a lot of questions and input to add. I’m not the one that lowered the level of discourse to that level. I’m actually not against Ukraine or the Ukrainian cause to get the eastern provinces back just the leaders that helped take trump out in 2020 I will never forget that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By blueballs: I'll speak for myself but your behavior is obnoxious and an embarrassment to grown men who want to have adult level conversations about the subject matter in this thread. That you are so oblivious to how absurd you sound should give you pause but if you did, you would most likely continue anyways as you seem more interested in shit posting than participating. As you said...not interested in adult level conversation, just shit posting and "ruffling feathers". Your side called me a Russian agent and then retarded. I’m happy to stay on your topic I have a lot of questions and input to add. I’m not the one that lowered the level of discourse to that level. I’m actually not against Ukraine or the Ukrainian cause to get the eastern provinces back just the leaders that helped take trump out in 2020 I will never forget that. Your arguments are retarded; I explained why. Stop being obtuse, you’re all wound up over “us vs you”. This is simply a difference of opinion on national policy. It’s been turned into a politicized shit show. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:38:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Maybe you are a better fit for Reddit. Too many retarded Trump voters here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: If anyone is looking for another means to keep up with geopolitical events that isn't constantly trolled by poop-slinging Gremlins, I'd suggest checking out the /r/credibledefense daily megathread on reddit. Yeah, it's reddit, but the mods are pretty good and the standard of discussion is pretty high. The shit that's gone on for the last few pages certainly would not have been tolerated. Maybe you are a better fit for Reddit. Too many retarded Trump voters here. Being around people like you in rural Missouri is what dissuaded me of any notions that there's a superior race. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:40:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gudabeg: Having more nationalist countries in the EU like Ukraine helps stop the crazies in France and Germany. Also, you can vote your way out of the EU. You can’t vote your way out of Russian occupation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gudabeg: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: All right. If Ukraine wins you are empowering the socialist EU which holds values opposite my own. We can look forward to an ever stronger Macron, Labor government in Britain, Canada, Poland, Hungary, Spain, just about everything. This to me isn’t about Russian aggression as much as it is about the US-deep state and European socialists remaining in control of us. If this was about protecting the interests of the American people we’d be protecting the southern border. Your side argues out of both sides of your mouth. You can’t have Ukrainian nationalism and join the EU. The EU is moving towards becoming more centralized and anti national every year. I don’t support sending my money to protect European values. Let them pay. France has nukes. Let macron send his tax payer’s money. We shouldn’t have left Afghanistan and I’d go back. No nation building. Plant the flag at those air bases. That was far more valuable against China and Russia than Eastern Ukraine. In my estimation China is far more aggressive than Russia. I see Russia as Chinas pawn. When Russia is sufficiently weakened China will move on Russia. They think on a long time horizon. You might want to see China move into eastern Russia when Putin collapses but in another generation you will regret it. Not enough space for a serious conversation. I am mad. No MAD, prepare and win if necessary. Having more nationalist countries in the EU like Ukraine helps stop the crazies in France and Germany. Also, you can vote your way out of the EU. You can’t vote your way out of Russian occupation. I see the EU being leveraged to destroy the sovereignty of Europes country’s not enhance. Donald Tusk just won in Poland and he’s a big EU guy. If Poland can’t maintain its distance from EU control how will Ukraine? That pretty much leaves Hungary and I know lol he loves Putin. The EU is just the United States before the civil war. One day it will be an indissoluble union. That’s probably why Macron and friends are letting so many immigrants in to alter the future elections. How will Ukraine be better off getting colonized by refugees than Russia? It’s a no win scenario for Ukraine. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:45:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: If Russia somehow took over 100% of Europe or only Ukraine, would what change? Would Europe then no longer be socialist? What form of government and economy is Russia? How does Russia seizing Ukraine or Europe free the USA from deep state control? I can raise many points on why policy on Ukraine should be changed but none of my points would overlap with yours. As anyone involved with international relations and geopolitics knows, you have to grasp the pros and cons of everything like a lawyer in a courtroom so you can better advocate for your position, that’s why I read TASS, Xinhua and Mehr. Not to absorb their propaganda but to understand their propaganda. One must know their enemy to defeat their enemy. Anyway, how does what you’re advocating translate into positive outcomes for the USA? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: All right. If Ukraine wins you are empowering the socialist EU which holds values opposite my own. We can look forward to an ever stronger Macron, Labor government in Britain, Canada, Poland, Hungary, Spain, just about everything. This to me isn’t about Russian aggression as much as it is about the US-deep state and European socialists remaining in control of us. If this was about protecting the interests of the American people we’d be protecting the southern border. Your side argues out of both sides of your mouth. You can’t have Ukrainian nationalism and join the EU. The EU is moving towards becoming more centralized and anti national every year. I don’t support sending my money to protect European values. Let them pay. France has nukes. Let macron send his tax payer’s money. We shouldn’t have left Afghanistan and I’d go back. No nation building. Plant the flag at those air bases. That was far more valuable against China and Russia than Eastern Ukraine. In my estimation China is far more aggressive than Russia. I see Russia as Chinas pawn. When Russia is sufficiently weakened China will move on Russia. They think on a long time horizon. You might want to see China move into eastern Russia when Putin collapses but in another generation you will regret it. Not enough space for a serious conversation. I am mad. No MAD, prepare and win if necessary. If Russia somehow took over 100% of Europe or only Ukraine, would what change? Would Europe then no longer be socialist? What form of government and economy is Russia? How does Russia seizing Ukraine or Europe free the USA from deep state control? I can raise many points on why policy on Ukraine should be changed but none of my points would overlap with yours. As anyone involved with international relations and geopolitics knows, you have to grasp the pros and cons of everything like a lawyer in a courtroom so you can better advocate for your position, that’s why I read TASS, Xinhua and Mehr. Not to absorb their propaganda but to understand their propaganda. One must know their enemy to defeat their enemy. Anyway, how does what you’re advocating translate into positive outcomes for the USA? I’ll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don’t want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it’s Marxist trash. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:49:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Glenn Greenwood is one of those but he comes from the Democrat side - he was on that Box list oddly Tim Poole and others weren't but with people having to work, take their kids to band practice or their ballet recital, get the laundry done, wash the car, etc I wouldn't expect most Americans to know who these people are |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:49:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I see the EU being leveraged to destroy the sovereignty of Europes country’s not enhance. Donald Tusk just won in Poland and he’s a big EU guy. If Poland can’t maintain its distance from EU control how will Ukraine? That pretty much leaves Hungary and I know lol he loves Putin. The EU is just the United States before the civil war. One day it will be an indissoluble union. That’s probably why Macron and friends are letting so many immigrants in to alter the future elections. How will Ukraine be better off getting colonized by refugees than Russia? It’s a no win scenario for Ukraine. Britain has a fuck ton of immigrants right? Didn’t we just have a giant stabbing thread on the UK and the harsh response from labor government on British citizens protesting that stabbing. Didn’t Britain leave the EU despite all the Muslims who’ve poured into an island known as the United Kingdom BREXIT |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:52:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Good heavens, how many do you want? We have 1000 in the wild now. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:53:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I’ll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don’t want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it’s Marxist trash. ? Long before the war in Ukraine Obama’s #1 foreign policy legacy was the Paris agreement and Obamacare his #1 domestic legacy https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/09/03/president-Obama-United-states-formally-enters-Paris-agreement   |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:54:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Greenwald. He's also a thinly veiled pro-hamas type. Holy crap I need to proofread my posts - that autocorrect installs entire sentences into my posts 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:54:40 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:55:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Being around people like you in rural Missouri is what dissuaded me of any notions that there's a superior race. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: If anyone is looking for another means to keep up with geopolitical events that isn't constantly trolled by poop-slinging Gremlins, I'd suggest checking out the /r/credibledefense daily megathread on reddit. Yeah, it's reddit, but the mods are pretty good and the standard of discussion is pretty high. The shit that's gone on for the last few pages certainly would not have been tolerated. Maybe you are a better fit for Reddit. Too many retarded Trump voters here. Being around people like you in rural Missouri is what dissuaded me of any notions that there's a superior race. I hear you actually lol. Are you Ukrainian? I’m not against you. I’m against the Marxist communist domestic enemies here that hate us all. The people in rural Missouri are like that because of generations of attacks by our elites. Whose policies brought the open borders and drugs?, who’s policies brought no fault divorce?, who’s policies sent our jobs overseas?, who banned god from the schools?, who caused the inflation?, who brought DEI to our remaining companies?, I’ll answer, marxists and corporate interests. Gramsis long march is complete You arrived when the people of rural Missouri have damn near been destroyed already. Sorry Did you think America was a shining city on a hill? We aren’t allowed to think that way anymore |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:57:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Britain has a fuck ton of immigrants right? Didn’t we just have a giant stabbing thread on the UK and the harsh response from labor government on British citizens protesting that stabbing. Didn’t Britain leave the EU despite all the Muslims who’ve poured into an island known as the United Kingdom BREXIT Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I see the EU being leveraged to destroy the sovereignty of Europes country’s not enhance. Donald Tusk just won in Poland and he’s a big EU guy. If Poland can’t maintain its distance from EU control how will Ukraine? That pretty much leaves Hungary and I know lol he loves Putin. The EU is just the United States before the civil war. One day it will be an indissoluble union. That’s probably why Macron and friends are letting so many immigrants in to alter the future elections. How will Ukraine be better off getting colonized by refugees than Russia? It’s a no win scenario for Ukraine. Britain has a fuck ton of immigrants right? Didn’t we just have a giant stabbing thread on the UK and the harsh response from labor government on British citizens protesting that stabbing. Didn’t Britain leave the EU despite all the Muslims who’ve poured into an island known as the United Kingdom BREXIT Yes, but correlation is not causation. The people behind brexit are diametrically opposed to immigration. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 4:59:56 PM EST
[#36]
This thread is turning into a fucking shit show. I miss the old one with it's heavy handed moderation. Can we please keep things on track people?
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:00:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: Jaehaerys]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I hear you actually lol. Are you Ukrainian? I’m not against you. I’m against the Marxist communist domestic enemies here that hate us all. The people in rural Missouri are like that because of generations of attacks by our elites. Whose policies brought the open borders and drugs?, who’s policies brought no fault divorce?, who’s policies sent our jobs overseas?, who banned god from the schools?, who caused the inflation?, who brought DEI to our remaining companies?, I’ll answer, marxists and corporate interests. Gramsis long march is complete You arrived when the people of rural Missouri have damn near been destroyed already. Sorry Did you think America was a shining city on a hill? We aren’t allowed to think that way anymore Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: If anyone is looking for another means to keep up with geopolitical events that isn't constantly trolled by poop-slinging Gremlins, I'd suggest checking out the /r/credibledefense daily megathread on reddit. Yeah, it's reddit, but the mods are pretty good and the standard of discussion is pretty high. The shit that's gone on for the last few pages certainly would not have been tolerated. Maybe you are a better fit for Reddit. Too many retarded Trump voters here. Being around people like you in rural Missouri is what dissuaded me of any notions that there's a superior race. I hear you actually lol. Are you Ukrainian? I’m not against you. I’m against the Marxist communist domestic enemies here that hate us all. The people in rural Missouri are like that because of generations of attacks by our elites. Whose policies brought the open borders and drugs?, who’s policies brought no fault divorce?, who’s policies sent our jobs overseas?, who banned god from the schools?, who caused the inflation?, who brought DEI to our remaining companies?, I’ll answer, marxists and corporate interests. Gramsis long march is complete You arrived when the people of rural Missouri have damn near been destroyed already. Sorry Did you think America was a shining city on a hill? We aren’t allowed to think that way anymore Never mind |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:00:51 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: A forest fire like this is scary enough without an enemy shooting at you.  We responded to a fire roughly the same size a few weeks ago, one of our trainiees nearly pissed himself when the wind got stronger. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By HIPPO: Fuck all that. No way. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWvGQL3WUAEfeEM?format=jpg&name=medium ~2:20 video in tweet. A forest fire like this is scary enough without an enemy shooting at you. We responded to a fire roughly the same size a few weeks ago, one of our trainiees nearly pissed himself when the wind got stronger. Good thing those aren't "old growth" forests with spotted owls in them. They would be off the US approved target list. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:02:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: Lieh-tzu]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Britain has a fuck ton of immigrants right? Didn’t we just have a giant stabbing thread on the UK and the harsh response from labor government on British citizens protesting that stabbing. Didn’t Britain leave the EU despite all the Muslims who’ve poured into an island known as the United Kingdom BREXIT So the troll is saying Putin is the only one that can save Europe from the globohomo? Putin is invading The ukraine to save them? Where have we heard that before? That's an RT/Putin talking point from 2022.ETA - previous screen name for that troll? |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:03:31 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I'll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don't want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it's Marxist trash. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:04:07 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: ? Long before the war in Ukraine Obama’s #1 foreign policy legacy was the Paris agreement and Obamacare his #1 domestic legacy https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/09/03/president-Obama-United-states-formally-enters-Paris-agreement https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1789-3314211.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1790-3314209.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I’ll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don’t want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it’s Marxist trash. ? Long before the war in Ukraine Obama’s #1 foreign policy legacy was the Paris agreement and Obamacare his #1 domestic legacy https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2016/09/03/president-Obama-United-states-formally-enters-Paris-agreement https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1789-3314211.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1790-3314209.jpg That proves my point. It was his undersecretary of state Vicky nuland and Hillary Clinton that pushed the orange revolution because they damn well knew the Russians would occupy Crimea and the East. The knew the Russian invasion would happen and didn’t prepare because they wanted this mess to go the way it has. They wanted Russia to overreach which they did and then leverage the Ukrainian men into the meat grinder in the East to take down Russia so they can loot it and use the earnings there to oppress us in the United States. The American people and Ukrainian people have the same enemies. We are fighting one Russia but the second one the global communists we are pretending they are our friends. They, Obama, Susan Rice, Hillary, Victoria Nuland, Joe Biden, etc, etc who are benefiting from this are the second and most dangerous enemy. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:04:50 PM EST
[#42]
Signal to noise ratio is fucked.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:06:33 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I’ll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don’t want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it’s Marxist trash. He’ll Bill Clinton was pushing climate shit back in the 1990s before Russia and Ukraine ever squabbled Like I said, there are pros and cons to any policy but I don’t see a direct connection with your point on redistribution of wealth because Europe orders the USA to do it because of Ukraine In my 7 years of posting I’ve never advocated for global warming or climate change or open borders or transferring sovereignty of US economy to Europe. In 2013-2014 I argued for increased European defense spending and OSCE sought my advice on Russia’s activities and intentions in Ukraine. Like I said I can make a coherent argument against support for Ukraine because I need to understand the pros and cons of policy positions but my points would not include the ones you’ve listed so far https://1997-2001.state.gov/global/global_issues/climate/background.html 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:08:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: nomansland]
[#44]
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:09:19 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Ok, but your position on Ukraine allows a China/Russia alliance to be the dominant power in world influence. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I'll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don't want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it's Marxist trash. I’m not against fighting Russia I just want everyone who pushed the Russian hoax on us thereby actually meddling in our elections to be removed before they get our money. If them at means Russia holds those East provinces a little longer so be it. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:09:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: solid]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Thanks for the news updates guys, sorry I am unable to contribute like I did. Suddenly got really busy the past few days. A project I was supposed to work on in June was delayed and looks like I am doing it now. Kudos to all the information you all put in this thread, I wouldn't know any details because our main stream media is full of crap or too lazy to get actual details. Edit: No idea wtf a kudo actually is so.. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:10:33 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Yes, but correlation is not causation. The people behind brexit are diametrically opposed to immigration. ? You implied Europe’s leadership was flooding their respective countries in order to secure election victories. How does that not apply to Britain? There was not mass immigration prior to BREXIT? Didn’t Labour Party in the UK oppose BREXIT? |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:13:09 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Ok, but your position on Ukraine allows a China/Russia alliance to be the dominant power in world influence. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I'll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don't want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it's Marxist trash. Russia turned out to be a joke. The globalist/commies are no joke. They have co-opted most of you guys into their cause. I put the threat from our globalist-Marxist enemies on parity with that of Russia and China. We need to be fighting them all at once and not tolerate them in our ranks. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:14:45 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Vox isn't a reliable source; they'll just list anyone they don't like and try to link them. The ones I recognize on the chart are pro Russian disinformation peddlers. It looks pretty reliable to me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:16:31 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Signal to noise ratio is fucked. No shit. Saw several pages new so I figured something happened. Nope ... Trump talk and the blown ranger |
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