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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:16:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Russia turned out to be a joke. The globalist/commies are no joke. They have co-opted most of you guys into their cause. I put the threat from our globalist-Marxist enemies on parity with that of Russia and China. We need to be fighting them all at once and not tolerate them in our ranks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I'll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don't want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it's Marxist trash. Russia turned out to be a joke. The globalist/commies are no joke. They have co-opted most of you guys into their cause. I put the threat from our globalist-Marxist enemies on parity with that of Russia and China. We need to be fighting them all at once and not tolerate them in our ranks. You're spamming this thread, which is about updates on the war. Post some updates or discuss the updates posted or GTFO. The Mykhailivka railway bridge claims another, a Russian tank crew abandon their tank and the RU tank is later captured by UA forces apart of the 15th National Guard Brigade "Kara-Dag", Donetsk. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1f9t2jx/the_mykhailivka_railway_bridge_claims_another_a/ |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:17:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: That proves my point. It was his undersecretary of state Vicky nuland and Hillary Clinton that pushed the orange revolution because they damn well knew the Russians would occupy Crimea and the East. The knew the Russian invasion would happen and didn’t prepare because they wanted this mess to go the way it has. They wanted Russia to overreach which they did and then leverage the Ukrainian men into the meat grinder in the East to take down Russia so they can loot it and use the earnings there to oppress us in the United States. The American people and Ukrainian people have the same enemies. We are fighting one Russia but the second one the global communists we are pretending they are our friends. They, Obama, Susan Rice, Hillary, Victoria Nuland, Joe Biden, etc, etc who are benefiting from this are the second and most dangerous enemy. But somehow 1997 Bill Clinton didn’t do the same with Russia after sending US forces to the Balkans where they were confronted by Russian military personnel? Sounds like you’ve been watching a lot of YouTube influencers based off the points your conveying which I’ve also heard before  On This Day: President Clinton's 1997 speech at the UN Special Session on Environment & Development |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:21:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: He’ll Bill Clinton was pushing climate shit back in the 1990s before Russia and Ukraine ever squabbled Like I said, there are pros and cons to any policy but I don’t see a direct connection with your point on redistribution of wealth because Europe orders the USA to do it because of Ukraine In my 7 years of posting I’ve never advocated for global warming or climate change or open borders or transferring sovereignty of US economy to Europe. In 2013-2014 I argued for increased European defense spending and OSCE sought my advice on Russia’s activities and intentions in Ukraine. Like I said I can make a coherent argument against support for Ukraine because I need to understand the pros and cons of policy positions but my points would not include the ones you’ve listed so far https://1997-2001.state.gov/global/global_issues/climate/background.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1791-3314214.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I’ll answer the last question first. I believe in the sovereignty of the United States. I don’t want an international rules based order set up by a bunch of European socialists, a future where the green new deal is an international treaty and a global oligarchy decides who gets what resources based on the climate religion they created to hide their Marxist agenda. America needs to be sovereign and independent to protect the interests of its people. Eff the EU and it’s Marxist trash. He’ll Bill Clinton was pushing climate shit back in the 1990s before Russia and Ukraine ever squabbled Like I said, there are pros and cons to any policy but I don’t see a direct connection with your point on redistribution of wealth because Europe orders the USA to do it because of Ukraine In my 7 years of posting I’ve never advocated for global warming or climate change or open borders or transferring sovereignty of US economy to Europe. In 2013-2014 I argued for increased European defense spending and OSCE sought my advice on Russia’s activities and intentions in Ukraine. Like I said I can make a coherent argument against support for Ukraine because I need to understand the pros and cons of policy positions but my points would not include the ones you’ve listed so far https://1997-2001.state.gov/global/global_issues/climate/background.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1791-3314214.jpg I’m well aware of bill Clinton’s climate change proposals. My point is the interests of the people who brought us climate change idiology are the same ones benefiting from the Ukraine war. If Ukraine becomes part of the EU the real agenda of the people that push the climate treaties will be advanced. They will depopulate and deindustrialize the heartland even further. It’s like Rush Limbaugh said when I was a kid all the communists went into the environmental movement as a cover. My Ukrainian grandmother bought me his book the way things ought to be when I was in 7th grade. Environmentalist=communist=globalist=marxist all the same. Russia is indeed also an enemy just not as dangerous as the one Zelinsky helped put in the White House. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:23:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: ? You implied Europe’s leadership was flooding their respective countries in order to secure election victories. How does that not apply to Britain? There was not mass immigration prior to BREXIT? Didn’t Labour Party in the UK oppose BREXIT? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Yes, but correlation is not causation. The people behind brexit are diametrically opposed to immigration. ? You implied Europe’s leadership was flooding their respective countries in order to secure election victories. How does that not apply to Britain? There was not mass immigration prior to BREXIT? Didn’t Labour Party in the UK oppose BREXIT? Boris and the leadership of the tories were not really pro brexit. You know it. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:24:01 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:24:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Boris and the leadership of the tories were not really pro brexit. You know it. Irrelevant to YOUR argument |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:25:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: The ones I recognize on the chart are pro Russian disinformation peddlers. It looks pretty reliable to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Vox isn't a reliable source; they'll just list anyone they don't like and try to link them. The ones I recognize on the chart are pro Russian disinformation peddlers. It looks pretty reliable to me. Some of those are likely whores for Russia. Tim Pool is not one of them. He’s calling it like he sees it. Go debate him if you disagree he lets anyone talk. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:26:46 PM EST
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/death-toll-russian-strike-ukraines-poltava-up-55-2024-09-05/
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:29:55 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:29:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: So 75 years ago we should’ve stopped them in Eastern Europe, but today we should let them rob, rape and murder their way through another country in Eastern Europe. Got it. Frontier plowboy hasn’t really thought this through. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:32:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: But somehow 1997 Bill Clinton didn’t do the same with Russia after sending US forces to the Balkans where they were confronted by Russian military personnel? Sounds like you’ve been watching a lot of YouTube influencers based off the points your conveying which I’ve also heard before  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOxAF7aMYgQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: That proves my point. It was his undersecretary of state Vicky nuland and Hillary Clinton that pushed the orange revolution because they damn well knew the Russians would occupy Crimea and the East. The knew the Russian invasion would happen and didn’t prepare because they wanted this mess to go the way it has. They wanted Russia to overreach which they did and then leverage the Ukrainian men into the meat grinder in the East to take down Russia so they can loot it and use the earnings there to oppress us in the United States. The American people and Ukrainian people have the same enemies. We are fighting one Russia but the second one the global communists we are pretending they are our friends. They, Obama, Susan Rice, Hillary, Victoria Nuland, Joe Biden, etc, etc who are benefiting from this are the second and most dangerous enemy. But somehow 1997 Bill Clinton didn’t do the same with Russia after sending US forces to the Balkans where they were confronted by Russian military personnel? Sounds like you’ve been watching a lot of YouTube influencers based off the points your conveying which I’ve also heard before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCOxAF7aMYg“But somehow 1997 Bill Clinton didn’t do the same with Russia after sending US forces to the Balkans where they were confronted by Russian military personnel?” That’s because they thought Boris Yelsin was going to hand them Russia. That was actually a pivotal point. If nato hadn’t bombed Serbia they might not have reawakened Russian nationalism to the point that Putin could take control. Clinton had a better instinct about these things he probably realized that pushing it to far would strengthen Russian nationalism at a time they were ready to collapse entirely. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:33:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryAnd I will predict that China will size or sink a Philippines coast guard to draw forces away from Russia. Just guessing based on what I see here. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:34:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Some of those are likely whores for Russia. Tim Pool is not one of them. He’s calling it like he sees it. Go debate him if you disagree he lets anyone talk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Originally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Vox isn't a reliable source; they'll just list anyone they don't like and try to link them. The ones I recognize on the chart are pro Russian disinformation peddlers. It looks pretty reliable to me. Some of those are likely whores for Russia. Tim Pool is not one of them. He’s calling it like he sees it. Go debate him if you disagree he lets anyone talk. Tim calls it whichever way puts money in his pocket. He might not have intentionally shored himself to Russia but it seems pretty clear he will for a paycheck. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:35:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Irrelevant to YOUR argument Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Boris and the leadership of the tories were not really pro brexit. You know it. Irrelevant to YOUR argument The British are clearly being punished for Brexit. The immigration is their punishment. You know it |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:35:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Frontier plowboy hasn’t really thought this through. Lot of points I’ve heard already made by YouTube influencers before and none of it’s coherent just vague claims that don’t require concrete evidence or details I’ve already read policy debates in the usual D.C. beltway publications and they don’t contain these points, so it’s not something I’d take seriously But the point has been demonstrated - other opinions have been made in the thread, responded to and now I return to posting updates |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:38:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: @Zhukov Can you IM me a summary? I have no idea what's going on. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:38:40 PM EST
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 Attached FileQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: You're spamming this thread, which is about updates on the war. Post some updates or discuss the updates posted or GTFO. The Mykhailivka railway bridge claims another, a Russian tank crew abandon their tank and the RU tank is later captured by UA forces apart of the 15th National Guard Brigade "Kara-Dag", Donetsk. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1f9t2jx/the_mykhailivka_railway_bridge_claims_another_a/ Attached File |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:39:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Frontier plowboy hasn’t really thought this through. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By Capta: So 75 years ago we should’ve stopped them in Eastern Europe, but today we should let them rob, rape and murder their way through another country in Eastern Europe. Got it. Frontier plowboy hasn’t really thought this through. I never said that we should let Russia get away with it. I said I’m tired of defending other countries while we are being destroyed at home by these high taxes and open border. Biden and Obama caused this and Ukraine helped Biden win. It’s time to play the long game. Winning in Ukraine if that’s possible isn’t helping me or my neighbors in Missouri, it’s only putting us further in a hole. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:40:56 PM EST
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Would someone message me when this thread gets back on the war track? Thanks
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:42:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: The British are clearly being punished for Brexit. The immigration is their punishment. You know it What’s with the you know it replies? If you think I’m avoiding some profound point you’ve made, you’re amusingly wrong. Your points are neither coherent or cogent I replied to your post to afford you the opportunity to demonstrate subject matter expertise or to not demonstrate it You’ve had an opportunity to speak freely and I’ve not labeled you as a “Russia bot” at any point You’re free to hold any beliefs you wish but I don’t find your arguments persuasive nor accurate. Perhaps someone else might |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:42:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Originally Posted By bikedamon: You're spamming this thread, which is about updates on the war. Post some updates or discuss the updates posted or GTFO. The Mykhailivka railway bridge claims another, a Russian tank crew abandon their tank and the RU tank is later captured by UA forces apart of the 15th National Guard Brigade "Kara-Dag", Donetsk. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1f9t2jx/the_mykhailivka_railway_bridge_claims_another_a/ /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Fine, you are right about that. I’ll start my own thread. People here who have time please go there and debate me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:42:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Would someone message me when this thread gets back on the war track? Thanks Add me to that list as well.  |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:42:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blueballs: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Originally Posted By bikedamon: You're spamming this thread, which is about updates on the war. Post some updates or discuss the updates posted or GTFO. The Mykhailivka railway bridge claims another, a Russian tank crew abandon their tank and the RU tank is later captured by UA forces apart of the 15th National Guard Brigade "Kara-Dag", Donetsk. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1f9t2jx/the_mykhailivka_railway_bridge_claims_another_a/ /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif Fine, you are right about that. I’ll start my own thread. People here who have time please go there and debate me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:48:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: what was team Trump saying in late 2023 and into 2024 about Ukraine? Skip to 27:30 to hear it right from Donald Trump Jr.’s mouth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kU0QfKug28Edit - clarity Is that Tim Poole? DJT Jr. sounds pretty ignorant although he was rambling "cool guy style" rather than saying anything specific. He sounded very anti-war and I assume anti aid but he didn't say anything very specific. Mostly complaining about "unaccounted" billions spent on Ukraine by democrats. I assume he believes that the war is just a democrat enrichment scam. I am NOT voting for Don. Jr. BUT, if Trump Sr. had the same exact opinions (possible) I would still be compelled to vote for him because 1)I am not a communist 2)I hate all communists 3)Trump is the only non-communist in the race. I will be very VERY disappointed if Trump reduces aid to Ukraine. I do NOT think he will and I think he will take a fresh look at the war and attempt to force negotiations on both parties followed by either increasing aid (most likely imho) or cutting aid (not likely because he will look weak). Trump will call Zelensky, ask him about their corruption probe into Hunter and the Biden family that went poof as soon as Biden won the election. Trump will decide what to do after that. If Z says "fuck you trump I'm Biden's man and aint talking shit" then aid will dramatically slow. If Z says "thank God you are here, these fucking Xiden idiots have been holding us hostage with a trickle of aid as long as we don't complain or spill all the dirt but I'm sending it all to you" then aid may to go 11. I am on pins and needles until 2025. But even if you T-D guys post 87 million articles from the NYT, Atlantic, etc about rehashed Russian Collusion bullshit or dig up video of Trump being raw-dogged by Putin yelling "Pull my hair and call me Ukraine" I am still voting for him. I HAVE NO FUCKING BETTER CHOICE. And if ya'll like Ukraine's chances under Kamala and don't give two shits about what she will do to AMERICA, then please, pretty please vote for her. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:48:41 PM EST
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KY, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:48:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Can you IM me a summary? I have no idea what's going on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: @Zhukov Can you IM me a summary? I have no idea what's going on. You ain't alone!!! |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:52:30 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:53:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Can you IM me a summary? I have no idea what's going on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Can you IM me a summary? I have no idea what's going on. As a reminder, from the OP, rules for this thread What this thread is: News and discussion related to political / military actions by Russia / Iran / China and their proxies, chief among those, North Korea. News and discussion of the relationships between Russia / Iran / China and their proxies. News and discussion of responses to Russia / Iran / China and their proxies. Related Grey Zone / hybrid warfare / "competition short of war." Relevant or interesting technical discussion. Relevant economic / social / historical discussion. Reliable reporting from Russian / Iranian / Chinese sources. Russian / Iranian / Chinese perspectives and factual evaluation thereof. Political topics in the US and / or elsewhere which bear directly on these issues, including the politics of foreign aid. Current focus is on the Russian war against and in Ukraine, however this could change if the Ukraine war cooled off and Taiwan heated up. Related topics are always allowed. Secondary but related topics like Wagner in Africa, uprising in Georgia, or a Third Chechen War. Reasonable tangents. What this thread is not: US and / or foreign political issues which do not directly bear on these topics, including campaigning / advocating for one party or candidate. General rules: Discussion is expected to be conducted in good faith and assertions of fact should be substantiated. In case of a question on whether a subtopic or line of discussion is relevant to this thread, the following members should be considered co-owners with decision making authority- AlmightyTallest, Capta, and SaltwaterHillbilly. However, I do see some discussion is not in good faith. That should change. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:54:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: What’s with the you know it replies? If you think I’m avoiding some profound point you’ve made, you’re amusingly wrong. Your points are neither coherent or cogent I replied to your post to afford you the opportunity to demonstrate subject matter expertise or to not demonstrate it You’ve had an opportunity to speak freely and I’ve not labeled you as a “Russia bot” at any point You’re free to hold any beliefs you wish but I don’t find your arguments persuasive nor accurate. Perhaps someone else might Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By Frontiercowboy: The British are clearly being punished for Brexit. The immigration is their punishment. You know it What’s with the you know it replies? If you think I’m avoiding some profound point you’ve made, you’re amusingly wrong. Your points are neither coherent or cogent I replied to your post to afford you the opportunity to demonstrate subject matter expertise or to not demonstrate it You’ve had an opportunity to speak freely and I’ve not labeled you as a “Russia bot” at any point You’re free to hold any beliefs you wish but I don’t find your arguments persuasive nor accurate. Perhaps someone else might My point is simply that the people who pushed brexit like Nigel Farage are not causing the immigration crisis. Boris Johnson was never really pro brexit and it wasn’t implemented properly. Hungary and Poland will eventually be forced to take these migrants by the EU. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:55:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TiePilot69: This thread is turning into a fucking shit show. I miss the old one with it's heavy handed moderation. Can we please keep things on track people? ^^^ No one, well at least me cares about anyones personal opinions on politics, the deep state or peoples thoughts/hopes on what Trump is going to do if elected. Lets keep this about actions actually taking place on the ground. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:56:25 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:56:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Is that Tim Poole? DJT Jr. sounds pretty ignorant although he was rambling "cool guy style" rather than saying anything specific. He sounded very anti-war and I assume anti aid but he didn't say anything very specific. Mostly complaining about "unaccounted" billions spent on Ukraine by democrats. I assume he believes that the war is just a democrat enrichment scam. I am NOT voting for Don. Jr. BUT, if Trump Sr. had the same exact opinions (possible) I would still be compelled to vote for him because 1)I am not a communist 2)I hate all communists 3)Trump is the only non-communist in the race. I will be very VERY disappointed if Trump reduces aid to Ukraine. I do NOT think he will and I think he will take a fresh look at the war and attempt to force negotiations on both parties followed by either increasing aid (most likely imho) or cutting aid (not likely because he will look weak). Trump will call Zelensky, ask him about their corruption probe into Hunter and the Biden family that went poof as soon as Biden won the election. Trump will decide what to do after that. If Z says "fuck you trump I'm Biden's man and aint talking shit" then aid will dramatically slow. If Z says "thank God you are here, these fucking Xiden idiots have been holding us hostage with a trickle of aid as long as we don't complain or spill all the dirt but I'm sending it all to you" then aid may to go 11. I am on pins and needles until 2025. But even if you T-D guys post 87 million articles from the NYT, Atlantic, etc about rehashed Russian Collusion bullshit or dig up video of Trump being raw-dogged by Putin yelling "Pull my hair and call me Ukraine" I am still voting for him. I HAVE NO FUCKING BETTER CHOICE. And if ya'll like Ukraine's chances under Kamala and don't give two shits about what she will do to AMERICA, then please, pretty please vote for her.  |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 5:58:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna169672 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_1771-3314179.jpg It's FANTASTIC advice in general to avoid beautiful American women in general, spy or no spy. Best outcome is you end up totting a sexual assault charge. "yes meant no" Worst case you get married and end up spending all your money on her, paying off her loans, and cleaning up her filthy messes. And her damn dogs and horses. Being turned into a spy lol I wish. Yes, itchy married a red headed nurse who owns a horse 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:01:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Can you IM me a summary? I have no idea what's going on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: @Zhukov Can you IM me a summary? I have no idea what's going on. Done. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:01:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's FANTASTIC advice in general to avoid beautiful American women in general, spy or no spy. Best outcome is you end up totting a sexual assault charge. "yes meant no" Worst case you get married and end up spending all your money on her, paying off her loans, and cleaning up her filthy messes. And her damn dogs and horses. Being turned into a spy lol I wish. Yes, itchy married a red headed nurse who owns a horse 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:04:48 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:05:37 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:06:14 PM EST
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Am I really going to have to renew my membership just to click ignore on this front cow guy? This thread is completely shitted up now
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:06:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's FANTASTIC advice in general to avoid beautiful American women in general, spy or no spy. Best outcome is you end up totting a sexual assault charge. "yes meant no" Worst case you get married and end up spending all your money on her, paying off her loans, and cleaning up her filthy messes. And her damn dogs and horses. Being turned into a spy lol I wish. Yes, itchy married a red headed nurse who owns a horse If you need a hug, IM me. 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:07:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's FANTASTIC advice in general to avoid beautiful American women in general, spy or no spy. Best outcome is you end up totting a sexual assault charge. "yes meant no" Worst case you get married and end up spending all your money on her, paying off her loans, and cleaning up her filthy messes. And her damn dogs and horses. Being turned into a spy lol I wish. Yes, itchy married a red headed nurse who owns a horse Yikes. Hope you invested in a safeword |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:10:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: Your side called me a Russian agent and then retarded. I’m happy to stay on your topic I have a lot of questions and input to add. I’m not the one that lowered the level of discourse to that level. I’m actually not against Ukraine or the Ukrainian cause to get the eastern provinces back just the leaders that helped take trump out in 2020 I will never forget that. All the assholes that have been sabotaging Trump AND America are here! Some in Russia. Ukraine had nothing to do with any Trump derangement. They are much more victims of this shit than YOU OR ME. I agree that had Trump been re-elected in 2020, Putin would not have invaded. No way to prove that now. But at least YOU AND ME are not fighting in a trench or burying our families like many in Ukraine. We got hit with inflation and look like clowns in the international community while the people in Ukraine got hit with Kinzahls and Shaheeds day and night. Some got murdered in the street. Imagine burying your family and hearing some asshole saying "yeah but their government is corrupt and they don't deserve any help from us strong, proud, free Americans".... |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:12:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: If Russia somehow took over 100% of Europe or only Ukraine, would what change? Would Europe then no longer be socialist? What form of government and economy is Russia? How does Russia seizing Ukraine or Europe free the USA from deep state control? I can raise many points on why policy on Ukraine should be changed but none of my points would overlap with yours. As anyone involved with international relations and geopolitics knows, you have to grasp the pros and cons of everything like a lawyer in a courtroom so you can better advocate for your position, that’s why I read TASS, Xinhua and Mehr. Not to absorb their propaganda but to understand their propaganda. One must know their enemy to defeat their enemy. Anyway, how does what you’re advocating translate into positive outcomes for the USA? 10:10 retort. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:14:57 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: If anyone is looking for another means to keep up with geopolitical events that isn't constantly trolled by poop-slinging Gremlins, I'd suggest checking out the /r/credibledefense daily megathread on reddit. Yeah, it's reddit, but the mods are pretty good and the standard of discussion is pretty high. The shit that's gone on for the last few pages certainly would not have been tolerated. There was a thread that was moderated that had good Ukraine content only. Then they created this one and abandoned that one. If people want a moderated thread they should probably go back to the old one. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:15:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I see the EU being leveraged to destroy the sovereignty of Europes country’s not enhance. Donald Tusk just won in Poland and he’s a big EU guy. If Poland can’t maintain its distance from EU control how will Ukraine? That pretty much leaves Hungary and I know lol he loves Putin. The EU is just the United States before the civil war. One day it will be an indissoluble union. That’s probably why Macron and friends are letting so many immigrants in to alter the future elections. How will Ukraine be better off getting colonized by refugees than Russia? It’s a no win scenario for Ukraine. Brussels is a disaster, full of lefty bureaucrats, authoritarians, and crooks. But Moscow makes them look like quire boys. Don't punish the good people of Ukraine for wanting to distance themselves from Russia even if assholes in Brussels are their only other option. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:17:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: bikedamon]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike:
Dude went from "Ukraine is America's #1 enemy" to now flying a Ukraine flag on his profile. 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:18:41 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:22:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: ITCHY-FINGER]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frontiercowboy: I hear you actually lol. Are you Ukrainian? I’m not against you. I’m against the Marxist communist domestic enemies here that hate us all. The people in rural Missouri are like that because of generations of attacks by our elites. Whose policies brought the open borders and drugs?, who’s policies brought no fault divorce?, who’s policies sent our jobs overseas?, who banned god from the schools?, who caused the inflation?, who brought DEI to our remaining companies?, I’ll answer, marxists and corporate interests. Gramsis long march is complete You arrived when the people of rural Missouri have damn near been destroyed already. Sorry Did you think America was a shining city on a hill? We aren’t allowed to think that way anymore Fun fact: Russia was the fertile soil of Marxist Leninist communism. No, it's true I read about it in a book. They even had a name for it called SOVIET and they had a whole UNION. It was a crazy time and some people still remember it. Ukraine is trying to free themselves from Russia (the dudes flying Soviet flags on their tanks and praising Stalin, a famous communist from the old UNION days). That is why Russia attacked Ukraine: They were trying to get a divorce from the Marxist communists who attacked them and started killing them. Tell me again which side you support. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:25:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: HIPPO]
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:25:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: I'm not calling for any mod action needed.... As a reminder, from the OP, rules for this thread The current back and forth is walking a fine line on the topic relatively according to the rules of this thread. I can see it both ways. I think it's up to one of the 4 co-owners to make a ruling. However, I do see some discussion is not in good faith. That should change. The OPs rules are not the forums rules. OP left a moderated thread for a free for all thread. These things will happen. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 6:26:35 PM EST
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