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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:48:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: Why is this thread different to the mods? Just trying to understand the rules. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: Originally Posted By blueballs: Originally Posted By KELBEAST: That thread was moderated to death. It was fine when people who were deliberately threads sliding were booted, but in its final days if you even mentioned Trump or the American election or policies you were thread banned. The mods took that thread and executed it like a Bolshevik No kidding ... I caught a thread ban for saying I hoped things would improve. Why is this thread different to the mods? Just trying to understand the rules. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:52:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Given Japans post WW2 history the steps Japan is taking are big and reflect China’s aggressive intrusions into not only disputed island territory but now actual acknowledged Japanese territory
That being said I’m probably the only person in GD cautioning on expectations from Japan on military capacity and capability and to some degree diplomacy South Korea and Japan want to invigorate their economies not be involved in a war in which China is within arms reach of fucking up their economies. Unfortunately for them the enemy gets a vote |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:54:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlackHoleSon: No shit. Saw several pages new so I figured something happened. Nope ... Trump talk and the blown ranger I opened it up after dinner and was like - "Hell yes, the rest of Kursk Oblast below the Seym must have fallen" or "Uh Oh, they must have lost Pokrovsk". Nope, just slip sliding away. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:55:33 PM EDT
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Washington Examiner: Russia promises retaliation against US regarding charges against RT media network
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:57:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: As I posted in May of 2022 in the big Ukraine thread - air defense would be a huge issue {I didn’t state in that 2022 post but I meant for the world not just Ukraine including Russia, Iran and China as everyone is behind the curve} And you were correct!!! Hopefully the big bear doesn’t decide to start a fight! Big decisions will be made to see who will get those interceptors and I have a hunch we will be keeping them all in that scenario. A lot like GD. Obsessed with the latest shiny weapon but never budgets enough for the ammo... |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 8:59:16 PM EDT
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Regarding Patriot production.
https://www.defensenews.com/land/2024/04/09/how-companies-plan-to-ramp-up-production-of-patriot-missiles/ |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:16:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: A lot like GD. Obsessed with the latest shiny weapon but never budgets enough for the ammo... Dude I’m going to steal this. This is a perfect sig line! |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:22:05 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for September 5th.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-5-2024 |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:23:07 PM EDT
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We've been missing the classic Solovyov rants from his own show. Here's a new RMM from Kontakt with some classic Solovyov. He laments that society is not fully committed to war, and understands Stalin. He also laments the lack of censorship and trashes those who post information on social media, pointing out how their enemies can make use of it. He has some ranting for Russian industry, why can you not build us buggies & such at least not worse than the Chinese and comparably priced.
 Vladimir Solovyov returns from his vacation |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:35:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Saltwater-Hillbilly]
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:38:24 PM EDT
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With the RT stuff going on, here is another example from this year of Americans involved with foreign newspapers and operations.
In this case, a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council, based out of DC wrote a column for the foreign newspaper Pravda where he talked about going as far as to research an elected official's favorite bible verses and putting them on billboards next to his house, in an effort to get that elected official to support a foreign country. https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/columns/2024/06/10/7460093/ |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:45:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:49:49 PM EDT
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That Tula fire looked vibrant
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:54:33 PM EDT
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What youtube (or other) channels to you guys like for frequent Ukraine updates? I like to be able to listen and watch while I'm working.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:02:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: What youtube (or other) channels to you guys like for frequent Ukraine updates? I like to be able to listen and watch while I'm working. Thanks. It’s a quick and dirty update, but I listen to Mike Baker’s “Presidents Daily Brief” podcast. It’s not Ukraine centric, but more of a world events update. 10-15m usually and hits the high points. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:03:42 PM EDT
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Crypto mobilization in 3, 2, 1…
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:26:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: The US Dollar isn't backed by the full faith and credit of the US government, its backed by the US Military, and our ability to project power and sink anything in the world. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEXT23: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: GD mocks BRICS, but doesn't seem to comprehend a declining US diminishing in importance and the impact of that decline. The period of time when the US could control all international trade was brief, and it is ending. Much of the rest of the world will rejoice (especially tyrants). Somebody else posted that BRICS is the credit union for those with bad credit, but I got no response when I pointed out the bad fundamentals of the US economy & financial system. Countries that rank ahead of us in debt-GDP include Bhutan, Venezuela, Italy, Greece, and Sudan (among others). The times, they are a-changin'. The US Dollar isn't backed by the full faith and credit of the US government, its backed by the US Military, and our ability to project power and sink anything in the world. I'm stealing that one. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:29:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:43:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: I gotta say the ignore function makes this place tolerable.  |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:44:42 PM EDT
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Daily Ukraine map thread for Thursday 5th September 2024
Highlights: Russian forces were shown to have captured Prechystivka near Vuhledar, advancing multiple kilometers to take the village. Vuhledar remains in a bit of a sticky situation. Multiple uses of the new Dragon fire bombing drones have been released by Ukraine now, across all areas of the front. An interesting new development in drone technology 46th Airmobile Brigade show more Russian vehicle losses from a failed attack in the Heorhiivka direction 15th Kara-Dag push back Russian forces near Mykhailivka Small Russian advancements over the canal near Chasiv Yar, and small Russian advancements near Pischane As always, the map can be found here: https://uacontrolmap.com And our geolocation log can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u0N-CJNyuB4oSRwHpPkI27bAzwjCfBbAPUH4DKO7gqY    
  
 
 
(Really long Twitter post here worth reading)
 
 Update on the Russian offensive 🇷🇺 in South Donetsk After several weeks of constant and uncontrolled progress, the Ukrainian army brought in reinforcements to hold the lines of defense. The situation is more volatile around Voulhedar. 🧵 THREAD 🧵 1/25 ⬇️ 
 
 https://www.tiktok.com/@stont123456789/video/7409237253647502598 |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:54:40 PM EDT
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https://cepa.org/article/ukraines-nerds-join-rambos-to-repel-russia/ |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:08:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Lots of people have defaulted on loans. All are Russian agents? Trump has been in business for 60+ years, taken hundreds, maybe thousands of loans. probably defaulted on some. He has declared bankruptcy a few times too. Russian agent. You keep bringing up that Deutchesbank bullshit and sound like that abtuse cowboy guy. You wake up at night covered in sweat yelling "DUETCHSBANK"?? BTW he paid them back with interest. Everything Trump ever said or did is some Russian Op to you. You sound like an unhinged McCarthy yelling Russia Russia Russia. Please stick to your excellent posts about war and take a break from the MSNBC talking points. p.s. I heard Trump appointed Lavrov as his chief of staff... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Capta: Thing is, they haven’t “always proved false.” You and other supporters like you are simply at the stage where no proof can be sufficient or even listened to. You WILL NOT hold your own side accountable. When I posted info a couple of months ago that Trump had taken a $650M loan from Deutscheback, then defaulted on it, the response from several posters was literally “it never happened.” It did happen, and that along with many other factors should go into your mental calculations when it comes to evaluating Russian influence efforts surrounding Trump and other “Conservative/Republican” figures. This is only one example; there are many others. This is not a problem exclusive to the right. I made the point a couple of months ago that an instance of questionable allegations against Joe Biden gave his supporters all the pretext they needed to say that “all such instances must be false.” On that point nothing has changed, no democratic voter will believe that the Russians compromised Biden’s son and thus had leverage on Biden. On other aspects of Biden, some Democratic voters are at least quietly re-evaluating him. However the Democratic party elite did hold Biden accountable, and as I mentioned before, IMO it was in part because they are expunging a compromised actor from power. The Russians have reactivated Cold War assets like Chomsky, socialists like Mearshimer, and left-wing populists like Kennedy. I’ll also observe that 6 months ago many Trump supporters on GD dismissed as ludicrous dem propaganda the idea that Trump had approached Kennedy as his running mate. Now that has been memory-holed and lifelong Democrats like Kennedy and Gabbard are being praised by those same individuals as “more loyal conservative Americans than RINOs.” Why? Because they’ve aligned themselves closely with Trump rhetoric and they repeat Russian propaganda. It’s crystal clear that the more overt, widespread, and concerted Russian propaganda effort is being directed at the US right. How do Russian-leaning individuals keep ending up in positions of influence over Donald Trump? Ask yourself that question very seriously. This whole issue illustrates why I pursue and will continue to pursue this in this thread. Because IT IS ON TOPIC whether it offends you or not, and whether or not you like to hear that the Russians have their hands up many “conservative” asses. Definitely including people close to Trump, and possibly Trump himself. This is why I preach accountability for your own side. Everyone here is all about accountability for the other team, that is a given. HOLD YOUR SIDE ACCOUNTABLE. Until you do that nothing in this country will change. Lots of people have defaulted on loans. All are Russian agents? Trump has been in business for 60+ years, taken hundreds, maybe thousands of loans. probably defaulted on some. He has declared bankruptcy a few times too. Russian agent. You keep bringing up that Deutchesbank bullshit and sound like that abtuse cowboy guy. You wake up at night covered in sweat yelling "DUETCHSBANK"?? BTW he paid them back with interest. Everything Trump ever said or did is some Russian Op to you. You sound like an unhinged McCarthy yelling Russia Russia Russia. Please stick to your excellent posts about war and take a break from the MSNBC talking points. p.s. I heard Trump appointed Lavrov as his chief of staff... “Lots of people” don’t get $650,000,000 loans they don’t have to pay back. I’ll also observe that defaulting on a “loan” (which was never meant to be repaid) has to be the oldest money laundering trick in the book. Below are links to some articles about Deutschebank money laundering for Russia, and Trump’s long history of loans and defaults on loans. I’ve sourced the article and then added select pieces from each article. Does this prove that Trump is in Putin’s pocket? No. But it should raise questions in your mind. Cui bono? Trump and Deutschebank, with details of Deutschbank’s entanglement with big Russian money Deutsche Bank was embroiled in a vast money-laundering operation, dubbed the Global Laundromat. Russian criminals with links to the Kremlin, the old KGB and its main successor, the FSB, used the scheme between 2010 and 2014 to move money into the western financial system. The cash involved could total $80bn, detectives believe. Shell companies typically based in the UK “loaned” money to each other. Companies then defaulted on this large fictitious debt. Deutsche Bank was used to launder the money via its corresponding banking network – effectively allowing illegal Russian payments to be funneled to the US, the European Union, and Asia. In 2017, the UK’s Financial Conduct Authority imposed its largest fine – £163m – after Deutsche carried out a $10bn “mirror trade” scheme run out of its branch in Moscow. The New York Department of Financial Services (DFS) fined the bank $425m over the same case, in which roubles were converted into dollars via fake trades on behalf of VIP Russian clients. Over two decades, Trump borrowed more than $2bn from Deutsche. In 2008, he defaulted on a $45m loan repayment and sued the bank. Its private wealth division in New York subsequently loaned Trump a further $300m – a move that bemused insiders and which has yet to be fully explained. Deutschebank fined for $20 BILLION money scheme known in the west as Global Laundromat Global Laundromat Britain’s high street banks processed nearly $740m from a vast money-laundering operation run by Russian criminals with links to the Russian government and the KGB, the Guardian can reveal. They estimate a group of about 500 people were involved. These include oligarchs, Moscow bankers, and figures working for or connected to the FSB, the successor spy agency to the KGB. Trump’s loans with Deutschebank The German bank loaned a cumulative total of around $2.5 billion to Trump projects over the past two decades, and the bank continued writing him nine-figure checks even after he defaulted on a $640 million obligation and sued the bank, blaming it for his failure to pay back the debt. Deutsche Bank’s private wealth unit loaned Trump $48 million — after he had defaulted on his $640 million loan and the bank’s commercial unit didn’t want to lend him any further funds — so that Trump could pay back another unit of Deutsche Bank. The bank was “laundering money for wealthy Russians and people connected to Putin and the Kremlin in a variety of ways for almost the exact time period that they were doing business with Donald Trump,” Enrich said. “And all of that money through Deutsche Bank was being channeled through the same exact legal entity in the U.S. that was handling the Donald Trump relationship in the U.S. And so there are a lot of coincidences here.” Deutschebank internal watchdogs found suspicious activity with Trump and Kushner dealings Anti-money-laundering specialists at Deutsche Bank recommended in 2016 and 2017 that multiple transactions involving legal entities controlled by Donald J. Trump and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, be reported to a federal financial-crimes watchdog. Detailed article about how Trump was forgiven about $270,000,000 in loans by Deutschebank on a real estate project. Mr. Trump went to his longtime lender, Deutsche Bank, for the bulk of the money. Since 1998, he had borrowed hundreds of millions of dollars from the German bank. It had been so eager to establish a foothold in the United States that it had overlooked his history of defaults. Big banks and hedge funds gave him years of extra time to repay his debts. Even after Mr. Trump sued his largest lender, accusing it of preying on him, the bank agreed to lend him another $99 million — more than twice as much as was previously known — so that he could pay back what he still owed the bank on the defaulted Chicago loan, records show. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:13:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: What youtube (or other) channels to you guys like for frequent Ukraine updates? I like to be able to listen and watch while I'm working. Thanks. I don’t rely on YouTube I don’t but @WiU War in Ukraine is a pro Ukraine channel but fairly objective and often critical updates The problem being his volume is low and he only does updates every 3 or 4 days I havent kept up on him much in the last 9 months but did check 2 of his videos from last week while packing suitcases This thread has frequent updates and ISW has slow but mostly accurate map updates with bullet point summaries for quick reference I also use defense reports, publications, some of which are not accessible to the public or easily accessed  Ukraine military situation: Aug 28-31, 2024 (slowdown in Russian momentum) |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:13:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: What youtube (or other) channels to you guys like for frequent Ukraine updates? I like to be able to listen and watch while I'm working. Thanks. I find it interesting that I have given up on dennis and the other guys (American vet who wears his hat that did the map update) and go straight to here every day. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:14:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: You do realize that Deutsche bank is a German bank right? Most billionaire’s in the world does business with them, including the US Government and most companies in the S&P 500. Yes Trump did default on a loan from them and ended up paying it all back. How does having a loan with one of the largest banks in the world have to do with being compromised? Sure Deutsche bank deals in shady shit but so does JP Morgan and all the big US banks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: Originally Posted By Capta: Thing is, they haven’t “always proved false.” You and other supporters like you are simply at the stage where no proof can be sufficient or even listened to. You WILL NOT hold your own side accountable. When I posted info a couple of months ago that Trump had taken a $650M loan from Deutscheback, then defaulted on it, the response from several posters was literally “it never happened.” It did happen, and that along with many other factors should go into your mental calculations when it comes to evaluating Russian influence efforts surrounding Trump and other “Conservative/Republican” figures. This is only one example; there are many others. This is not a problem exclusive to the right. I made the point a couple of months ago that an instance of questionable allegations against Joe Biden gave his supporters all the pretext they needed to say that “all such instances must be false.” On that point nothing has changed, no democratic voter will believe that the Russians compromised Biden’s son and thus had leverage on Biden. On other aspects of Biden, some Democratic voters are at least quietly re-evaluating him. However the Democratic party elite did hold Biden accountable, and as I mentioned before, IMO it was in part because they are expunging a compromised actor from power. The Russians have reactivated Cold War assets like Chomsky, socialists like Mearshimer, and left-wing populists like Kennedy. I’ll also observe that 6 months ago many Trump supporters on GD dismissed as ludicrous dem propaganda the idea that Trump had approached Kennedy as his running mate. Now that has been memory-holed and lifelong Democrats like Kennedy and Gabbard are being praised by those same individuals as “more loyal conservative Americans than RINOs.” Why? Because they’ve aligned themselves closely with Trump rhetoric and they repeat Russian propaganda. It’s crystal clear that the more overt, widespread, and concerted Russian propaganda effort is being directed at the US right. How do Russian-leaning individuals keep ending up in positions of influence over Donald Trump? Ask yourself that question very seriously. This whole issue illustrates why I pursue and will continue to pursue this in this thread. Because IT IS ON TOPIC whether it offends you or not, and whether or not you like to hear that the Russians have their hands up many “conservative” asses. Definitely including people close to Trump, and possibly Trump himself. This is why I preach accountability for your own side. Everyone here is all about accountability for the other team, that is a given. HOLD YOUR SIDE ACCOUNTABLE. Until you do that nothing in this country will change. You do realize that Deutsche bank is a German bank right? Most billionaire’s in the world does business with them, including the US Government and most companies in the S&P 500. Yes Trump did default on a loan from them and ended up paying it all back. How does having a loan with one of the largest banks in the world have to do with being compromised? Sure Deutsche bank deals in shady shit but so does JP Morgan and all the big US banks. And AfD is a German political party, right? I also posted sources confirming that Trump in fact did not pay back the loans. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:15:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Moscow, Kyiv Energy Strikes Raise the Stakes
Copyright © 2024 Energy Intelligence Group Energy assets have become the main target of attacks by Russia and Ukraine on the other's territory, creating disruption risks for national and global markets. Pipelines taking Russian gas and oil via Ukraine to Europe are so far unaffected but remain vulnerable to strikes. Ukraine has made it clear it won’t negotiate the extension of its gas transit deal with Russia that expires at end-2024; the oil transit contract is valid until 2030. The Issue A wave of Ukrainian drone attacks in late August and early September has triggered an outage at a major refinery in Moscow and set fire to oil storage tanks and depots. Adding to the oil products deficit, there are now shrinking volumes of Russian diesel available for export, while gasoline exports are already banned by Moscow. Gas supply disruptions in 2025 are also a risk if no clear alternative to Ukrainian transit emerges to keep volumes flowing to Europe. Oil shipments via Ukraine are also under pressure, after Kyiv in June blacklisted Russian oil giant Lukoil, the main supplier of Urals crude to Hungary and Slovakia via the Druzhba pipeline. More Strikes, More Damage The targets for Kyiv's drone attacks now extend from refineries and oil storage facilities to power generation and port infrastructure. The Sep. 1 attacks, the most intense seen yet, hit Gazprom Neft's 240,000 barrel per day Moscow refinery, plus power plants not far from the Russian capital. Market sources suggested the Moscow refinery's Euro+ complex — a set of secondary processing units opened in 2020 to make cleaner fuels — had been damaged and could be out of action for several weeks. The Konakovo hydropower plant, 120 kilometers from Moscow, also caught fire, while the 300,000 b/d Yaroslavl refinery and Kashira hydropower plant were targeted but remain undamaged. Since the beginning of the year, sustained Ukrainian drone attacks have caused unplanned outages and subpar performance at around two dozen Russian refining facilities (see table). As a result, Russia's refining throughput averaged 5.3 million b/d over the first seven months of the year, down 250,000 b/d from the same period in 2023. Diesel exports in August were less than 2 million metric tons (480,000 b/d), according to data analytics firm Kpler, down from 3.5 million tons in January. September exports are expected to be even lower. Russia, in turn, has been regularly bombarding Ukraine's power generation facilities. According to EU Energy Commissioner Kadri Simson, it has destroyed or captured around 9 gigawatts of Ukraine’s electricity production — or around half the electricity Ukraine needs in winter. Russian strikes, according to Russian press reports, also damaged Ukraine’s main Bilche-Volytsko-Ugerskoe gas storage facility in the west of the country, with a capacity of 17 billion cubic meters, or 57% of the country's total. Such strikes are also expected to limit European traders’ appetite for storing gas in Ukraine. Gas flows to Europe via Ukraine, however, have so far not been affected, despite the Sudzha gas metering station, the only available exit point for Russian gas transited to Europe, now sitting under Ukrainian control following Kyiv's incursion into Russia’s Kursk region. But as fighting continues, the risk of damage can't be ruled out. Gas Transit Risks Ukrainian officials repeated last week that they won't extend the gas transit contract with Gazprom, but President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said that Kyiv will consider transiting the gas "from other companies," if European partners continue to request it. Indeed, a mediator booking transit capacity instead of Gazprom — be it a European buyer, trader or even Azerbaijan — has been one of the possible arrangements under discussion, observers suggest. This would avoid direct interactions between Moscow and Kyiv. A halt to transit volumes of some 40 million cubic meters per day, or around 15 Bcm per year, would affect Austria, Slovakia and non-EU Moldova the most. Austria, which holds legislative elections on Sep. 29, now seeks to cancel the gas supply contract between Austrian firm OMV and Gazprom, despite Russian gas still dominating its imports. Slovakia, meanwhile, is understood to be advocating that Kyiv maintain transit flows beyond 2024. Moldova says it already has an informal agreement with Ukraine to keep the gas flowing to its breakaway region of Transnistria, where Russia would like to maintain its political influence. Hungary is another country sticking to Russian gas imports, but it receives the gas via the Turk Stream pipeline and should not be affected by an end to transit via Ukraine. How Azerbaijan sees its role in transit flows is not clear at this stage, given the lack of spare capacity in the Southern Gas Corridor gas pipeline system delivering Caspian gas to Europe. A proposed Turkish hub, mentioned by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov last week, could in theory supply a blend of Russian, Caspian and other gas — but it, too, would face bottlenecks along existing pipeline routes to Europe. Oil Uncertainty Ukrainian officials clarified last week that oil flows from Russia to Europe via the Druzhba pipeline would not terminate next year, as had been previously announced by Mikhail Podolyak, advisor to the head of Zelenskiy's office. According to the contract between Russian pipeline operator Transneft and its Ukrainian counterpart, Ukrtransnafta, oil transit is to last until Jan. 1, 2030. Alexei Chernyshov, the head of Ukrtransnafta parent company Naftogaz, was quoted as saying that Ukraine would continue to fulfil its transit contract obligations while backing Eastern European countries' diversification efforts. But Kyiv's new ban on the transit of Lukoil's oil to Hungary and Slovakia via Ukraine also indicates that it could target Russian flows at any time. Volumes are already unstable: Shipments of Russian oil via the Druzhba pipeline to Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic declined by 76,000 b/d last month from July, although Tatneft and Russneft helped replace Lukoil barrels. According to one Central European diplomat, there is "no consensus" among European states on what to do in case Kyiv targets those companies and Russian remaining flows stop, but some people believe it could happen as sentiment in Kyiv "drifts toward a total separation from Russia." (Great pipeline maps and chart at site) https://www.energyintel.com/00000191-bc20-d88e-a7fd-bd79829c0000 |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:17:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: And AfD is a German political party, right? I also posted sources confirming that Trump in fact did not pay back the loans. You must of missed Duetsche bank’s testimony this summer in federal court. But keep posting articles from when the media was 100% out to make trump look bad. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:21:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: If you look way to the left. Looks like you can see a flash 4-5 seconds before each impact Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 19 minutes ago.
The destroyed vehicle kinda looks like a loaf, suggesting it could be a targeted hit. The explosions aren’t out of the norm for a large kamikaze. If you look way to the left. Looks like you can see a flash 4-5 seconds before each impact Ah, so an SOF hit maybe? Interesting! |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:23:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I am VERY disappointed that no one posted the tweet about Putin endorsing Kamala over Trump. There is a thread on it with some purse swinging. Most people are posting yeah no shit with a few arguing it's just 4D chess. Well, more like 1D chess. Maybe .5D if there is such a thing. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glock63: They had nothing that could touch the p51 and our bombers at elevation. We would have mauled their supply lines. It eoukd have been real ugly for a bit though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glock63: Originally Posted By bikedamon: You'd be correct. Not to sidetrack this thread any more than it already has been, but the common "we shoulda fought the Russians when WW2 ended!" sentiment fails to take many important considerations from the time into account. The US public was very war-weary by the end of the war in Europe. Political will for troop drafts was completely tapped out at that point, within the public and the government, and that was without making the case that a supposed ally that we had been arming up until then would suddenly be an adversary. Wasn't gonna happen. Militarily, the Red Army was a massive, battle hardened blood-lust-driven fighting force at that stage and there was actually a fear that they could steamroll US forces. The name escapes me at the moment but there was a contingency plan drawn up to withdraw Allied forces to the Pyrenees in the event of a Soviet attack in 1945. That's an indicator. Using atom bombs against Soviet forces was discussed, but they would mean massive collateral damage against the countries occupied by the Red Army, to say nothing of how limited the atomic arsenal was at the time. It simply wasn't going to happen, for many reasons. They had nothing that could touch the p51 and our bombers at elevation. We would have mauled their supply lines. It eoukd have been real ugly for a bit though. We supplied most of their trucks, and some of their fuel. Without lend-lease they would’ve reverted to a straight-leg infantry army in short order. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:38:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomansland: Trump was absolutely an obstacle to passing the Ukraine aid this year, until he was convinced by David Cameron and then Johnson was able to get Trump's blessing to proceed. I was paying very close attention, as I was engaging my representative to try to get the aid package across the finish line. You have to look at the timeline (BTW - you can do your own searching by site in Google using site:foxnews.com and say "david cameron trump", you can even parse it over a specific period of time): April 9, 2024: UK's Cameron meets Trump ahead of push for more US Aid April 12, 2024: Johnson to meet Trump amid speakership challenges The April 12 meeting is where Johnson is basically trying to get Trump's blessing of the plan to pass the aid bill after Cameron laid the groundwork. Trump wields power because he's the Presidential nominee at that point, you have many (such as JD) that wish to be VP, and few want to oppose Trump. On April 20, the Ukraine aid bill passes the House. On May 8 we get the mild Trump rebuke of MTG: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rebukes-marjorie-taylor-greenes-failed-attempt-to-oust-speaker-not-the-time By May 14 we get more details of what was discussed: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uks-cameron-discussed-ukraine-russia-peace-deal-trump-report On a related topic to recover this derail, here was a very good documentary I saw recently from ABC news Australia about Iran's role in the crisis in the middleast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsjH0zWKe8&pp=ygUZYWJjIG5ld3MgaXJhbiBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D I don't believe that most of us in the US appreciate what Soleimani meant to Iran, Hezzbolah and Hamas (I certainly didn't). His picture is literally on the streets with those of the ruler of Iran. We've already seen reports that Iran has hacked Trump's campaign emails, and even has plots against him. This will be a different campaign because I do think we will see an information war waged in favor of Trump by the Russians, but then likely an equally vigorous campaign against Trump by Iran. I would expect Iran to try to use the emails as some type of October surprise if not try something bigger. It is going to bad for the US, but maybe it will create strife between Putin and Khamenei as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nomansland: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By HIPPO: dude, got nothing but love for ya, but this thing is pretty fucking blatant. Sometimes facts are inconvenient things. I’m pretty damn mad about it too. It changes nothing in terms of other parties being compromised/influenced (e.g., Walz coziness with the prc, NY gov being pwned by the prc, Biden, Obama, etc) or other conflicts in play (prc world domination). But wishing it away doesn’t change the fact that it is real. We should be talking about it and dealing with it. I'm open to listening and talking about it but its literally the 87th time I have heard the same allegations that always proved false. What exactly are they accusing Trump of dong this time? Asking seriously because I WILL NOT research cnn, MSNBC, etc. Trump is quoting Russian propaganda? And what he is saying is 180 different than what he said previously? Russian propaganda is smart because there is always some truth to it i.e.: "the US has a huge, unsustainable national debt, aid to Ukraine is costing US tax payers billions and should halt immediately"...Trump, or anyone with a brain can agree with the parts about the national debt and taxpayer concerns and talk about it without agreeing with the premise of halting aid to Ukraine and doesn't mean he is Putin's puppet like Xiden. Trump was absolutely an obstacle to passing the Ukraine aid this year, until he was convinced by David Cameron and then Johnson was able to get Trump's blessing to proceed. I was paying very close attention, as I was engaging my representative to try to get the aid package across the finish line. You have to look at the timeline (BTW - you can do your own searching by site in Google using site:foxnews.com and say "david cameron trump", you can even parse it over a specific period of time): April 9, 2024: UK's Cameron meets Trump ahead of push for more US Aid April 12, 2024: Johnson to meet Trump amid speakership challenges The April 12 meeting is where Johnson is basically trying to get Trump's blessing of the plan to pass the aid bill after Cameron laid the groundwork. Trump wields power because he's the Presidential nominee at that point, you have many (such as JD) that wish to be VP, and few want to oppose Trump. On April 20, the Ukraine aid bill passes the House. On May 8 we get the mild Trump rebuke of MTG: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rebukes-marjorie-taylor-greenes-failed-attempt-to-oust-speaker-not-the-time By May 14 we get more details of what was discussed: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uks-cameron-discussed-ukraine-russia-peace-deal-trump-report On a related topic to recover this derail, here was a very good documentary I saw recently from ABC news Australia about Iran's role in the crisis in the middleast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsjH0zWKe8&pp=ygUZYWJjIG5ld3MgaXJhbiBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D I don't believe that most of us in the US appreciate what Soleimani meant to Iran, Hezzbolah and Hamas (I certainly didn't). His picture is literally on the streets with those of the ruler of Iran. We've already seen reports that Iran has hacked Trump's campaign emails, and even has plots against him. This will be a different campaign because I do think we will see an information war waged in favor of Trump by the Russians, but then likely an equally vigorous campaign against Trump by Iran. I would expect Iran to try to use the emails as some type of October surprise if not try something bigger. It is going to bad for the US, but maybe it will create strife between Putin and Khamenei as well. There was also, around the same time, the instance of Trump receiving the traditional CIA briefing as the presumptive nominee, which has been the case since Eisenhower. It’s possible that Trump heard something at that time, or putting it a different way, perhaps something was communicated to him at that time that modified his stance. I tend to believe the second, based on the fact that some of his statements on the issue afterword had a bit of tone to them that, to me, fits with Trump being induced to do something he didn’t really want to do. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MarineGrunt: It’s a quick and dirty update, but I listen to Mike Baker’s “Presidents Daily Brief” podcast. It’s not Ukraine centric, but more of a world events update. 10-15m usually and hits the high points. I believe that's appropriate for me. Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:47:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: There was also, around the same time, the instance of Trump receiving the traditional CIA briefing as the presumptive nominee, which has been the case since Eisenhower. It’s possible that Trump heard something at that time, or putting it a different way, perhaps something was communicated to him at that time that modified his stance. I tend to believe the second, based on the fact that some of his statements on the issue afterword had a bit of tone to them that, to me, fits with Trump being induced to do something he didn’t really want to do. Trump wasn’t allowed the briefing until after the RNC convention. When it was offered him he declined it. Which in my opinion was retarded. Trump says he's refusing intel briefings so he won't be accused of leaks https://www.axios.com/2024/08/22/trump-decline-intelligence-briefings-leak |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Interesting. Until Cameron or Johnson, or someone respectable comes out and say it outright, I will not believe it. Doesn't make sense to me that Trump would have so much influence out of the WH while everyone was blocking and sabotaging him while he as POTUS. Between now and Jan. 2025 thing will certainly be interesting and maybe historic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By nomansland: Trump was absolutely an obstacle to passing the Ukraine aid this year, until he was convinced by David Cameron and then Johnson was able to get Trump's blessing to proceed. I was paying very close attention, as I was engaging my representative to try to get the aid package across the finish line. You have to look at the timeline (BTW - you can do your own searching by site in Google using site:foxnews.com and say "david cameron trump", you can even parse it over a specific period of time): April 9, 2024: UK's Cameron meets Trump ahead of push for more US Aid April 12, 2024: Johnson to meet Trump amid speakership challenges The April 12 meeting is where Johnson is basically trying to get Trump's blessing of the plan to pass the aid bill after Cameron laid the groundwork. Trump wields power because he's the Presidential nominee at that point, you have many (such as JD) that wish to be VP, and few want to oppose Trump. On April 20, the Ukraine aid bill passes the House. On May 8 we get the mild Trump rebuke of MTG: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rebukes-marjorie-taylor-greenes-failed-attempt-to-oust-speaker-not-the-time By May 14 we get more details of what was discussed: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/uks-cameron-discussed-ukraine-russia-peace-deal-trump-report On a related topic to recover this derail, here was a very good documentary I saw recently from ABC news Australia about Iran's role in the crisis in the middleast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSsjH0zWKe8&pp=ygUZYWJjIG5ld3MgaXJhbiBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D I don't believe that most of us in the US appreciate what Soleimani meant to Iran, Hezzbolah and Hamas (I certainly didn't). His picture is literally on the streets with those of the ruler of Iran. We've already seen reports that Iran has hacked Trump's campaign emails, and even has plots against him. This will be a different campaign because I do think we will see an information war waged in favor of Trump by the Russians, but then likely an equally vigorous campaign against Trump by Iran. I would expect Iran to try to use the emails as some type of October surprise if not try something bigger. It is going to bad for the US, but maybe it will create strife between Putin and Khamenei as well. Interesting. Until Cameron or Johnson, or someone respectable comes out and say it outright, I will not believe it. Doesn't make sense to me that Trump would have so much influence out of the WH while everyone was blocking and sabotaging him while he as POTUS. Between now and Jan. 2025 thing will certainly be interesting and maybe historic. Objectively, most people have an incentive not to say anything. No once will say anything before the election because if Trump wins they can count on retaliation. Even after the election, saying anything might not be wise because that invites Trump to put them on blast, also a non-ideal situation. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:54:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:57:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:01:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:01:29 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: A lot like GD. Obsessed with the latest shiny weapon but never budgets enough for the ammo... Some good news for Ukraine https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240905- |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:06:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: ETA: ~45 sec video in tweet below
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: ETA: ~45 sec video in tweet below
A year and a half ago we had the Russian winter offensive into vuhledar. It was a resounding success for Ukraine’s hundreds upon hundreds of Russian tanks and other vehicles littered the countryside south of the city as Russians tried to make the Ukrainians run out of mines. Didn’t end well Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: That seems to be his logic 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:06:31 AM EDT
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BREAKING ‼️ Russians (Espanola battalion) were seconds away from firing on Akhmat troops (Tiktokers in slippers)
Espanyola's full statement: "Three days ago, a group of fighters from the Espanola Brigade, who were moving, in accordance with combat orders, in a column rotation in two vehicles to the LBS zone, were blocked by unknown armed men in four vehicles. From the cars blocking our column in the Uglegorsk area without license plates (some had "FSB" license plates), with illumination reminiscent of either a New Year's tree or a retro disco, strange bearded men in civilian clothes (some even in slippers), armed with automatic weapons, came pouring out and tried to be cheeky to our fighters, introducing themselves as employees of the Russian National Guard, the military commandant's office, the prosecutor's office, "Akhmat", and the Investigative Committee. They did not provide any documents, and they could not really name the reasons for the attack, but they shouted incoherent threats and insults at the top of their voices, screamed and in every way provoked the Espanola fighters into conflict, in general, they staged a glorious circus. The reason for the attack, as it later turned out, was a traffic incident that had happened earlier in the vicinity of Khartsyzsk, when a Kia, also driving without license plates, cut off Espanola's convoy from the oncoming lane, almost causing an accident. According to the attackers, their car was let through without "due respect", while the "special forces in slippers" were shouting, they were fighting "for you, for Russia"... At the time of the incident, the Espanola column, we recall, was moving in accordance with the BR to the BZ, the implementation of which was at that moment under threat. From the moment our vehicles were blocked, the fighters of the 88th Brigade acted according to the instructions - they brought their weapons to combat readiness; loaded cartridges into the chambers, left the transport and took up firing positions; they did not succumb to provocations and immediately transmitted the circumstances and location to the brigade security service. In the video above, you can see how the bearded "special forces in slippers" huddled in a fat herd among the cars, while our guys dispersed and "took control" of the opponents. The attackers apparently expected that events would take a different turn, and when the threat of a real armed conflict loomed (let us recall that the “special forces in slippers” initially blocked the Espanola fighters with weapons in their hands; the Espanola commander, in the event of real threats, had previously, back when the brigade was being formed, given the order to open fire to kill), the eldest of these circus performers, who introduced himself as “Yunus, Adam’s brother,” declared that “there’s nothing to catch here” and, boldly leaving a contact number, rushed off with his entire troupe."
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:07:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:14:50 AM EDT
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Yesterday’s-
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:16:39 AM EDT
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🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk direction
Situation as of 19:00 September 5, 2024 🔻In Korenevo district the enemy does not stop attempts to break through along the Rylsk-Korenevo-Sudzha highway to the village of Korenevo. 🔻In Sudzha district the configuration of the front in the area of Kamyshovka was clarified. Taking into account the recent fighting in the area of Mar'evka southward, now this area is controlled by the AFU. There is fighting in Cherkasskoe Porechnoe, Russian tanks are firing at the enemy positions. 🔻In Sumy region, a missile strike hit a BM-21 Stryga MLRS, which was initially mistaken for an M270. The launcher was destroyed as a result of detonation of the ammunition together with the crew 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:31:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: A lot like GD. Obsessed with the latest shiny weapon but never budgets enough for the ammo... If you only have the money for one of (weapon, ammo, training) acquiring them in the order of the most likely bans is not the worst strategy. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 12:34:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: I gotta say the ignore function makes this place tolerable. Only if people stop quoting/responding to trolls. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 4:29:22 AM EDT
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I remain ambivalent on the Nippon steel deal
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:24:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:36:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doc540: Enough of this "Patton should've been unleased against the Reds after WWII". By 1945 the U.S. government was riddled with enough Communist spies to have undermined any offensive against the Reds. If you think today's "interference" is an issue, you can't imagine what a red shitshow it was from the '30's thru the '60's. There is an extremely fun and detailed alternate history book series, where SS hideouts stage a false flag operation that begins WW3 in 1945 against the US vs USSR. Cant recommend this series enough, really awesome mix of history and fan service (Paton using his pistols, wonderful Churchill moments, so much but dont want to ruin anything) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRPXD2U?tag=arfcom00-20 Stalin's War is the first installment of the World in Flames Trilogy and tells the realistic story of a powerful and compelling series of events that could have led the two most powerful nations in world history to come to blows in war-torn Europe. This alternative history tells the story of the great leaders of the day, Churchill, FDR, Stalin, Truman, Eisenhower, Zhukov, and numerous other historical figures, as well as, a cast of characters from courageous Polish Freedom Fighters engaged in a near hopeless bid for survival to former Nazi SS officers desperate and willing to do anything to ignite a conflict between the two emerging superpowers to save the Fatherland. But at the heart of this story lies one man's obsessions, paranoia, and desire to dominate the globe...Josef Stalin...the most powerful man on the planet with the largest army in the history of man sees treachery everywhere, yet he misses the one true threat to all of his plans and in one moment of pure terror everything he had long planned nearly comes to an end...leading him to make a momentous decision to crush the Motherland's enemies without mercy once and for all. This fast paced thriller takes readers from the rubble of Berlin to politics in the White House and Kremlin, and ultimately to fields of battle as two great armies move towards an inevitable clash of arms that will determine not only the fate of Europe, but perhaps freedom itself. Each book is better then the next. 
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:45:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Fuck all that. No way. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWvGQL3WUAEfeEM?format=jpg&name=medium ~2:20 video in tweet. I imagine we will see Chinese 5th Columnists starting wildfires across the US using similar drones should war w/ China ever kick off. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 5:51:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: That's a great point. Asymmetric attacks are critical. Protecting sensitive industrial facilities from drone attacks needs to be a thing. We need to see some of those anti-drone EW guns available on Amazon for public use, even if you have to get a FCC or FAA license to operate them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By stgdz: It's going to suck in a conflict when quad copters with nades.blow a hole in the roof and then enter to wreck all the validated.molds and machinery. That's a great point. Asymmetric attacks are critical. Protecting sensitive industrial facilities from drone attacks needs to be a thing. We need to see some of those anti-drone EW guns available on Amazon for public use, even if you have to get a FCC or FAA license to operate them. Just need to cover factories and critical infrastructure with baseball stadium netting. EW wont do anything against GPS/INS/AI drones, plus not useful against a 'bolt from the blue' surprise attack. Nets never sleep (I've been shilling for nets since early in the war) https://www.networldsports.com/drone-netting-standard-size.html 
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