Haven't seen you around in a while, glad you're back.

Just my opinion and worth what you paid for it.
The Russians aren't going to do squat. They are going to bluster and puff their chests a bunch. They can't handle a country on their own border. Poland would push their shit in if they try to move west.

The real question is why do you give a shit what 2 dumpster countries are doing?

The US is crumbling and Americans are interested in Euro bullshit that has zero to do with us.

No worse than our own government giving the date/time of the B52 raids over Hanoi to reduce civilian casualties with #ZFG about our own airmen getting killed.

General Patton sure had a way with words...

I dont. Ukraine can buy or take any gifts of weapons, money or bribes from anyone they fucking please.

I give a shit when Putin can't handle how badly he fucked things up and wants to blame everyone else for his giant blunder. It's the equivalent of a drunk Russian stumbling around in the dark, trespassing on someone else's property, falling in a septic tank and then blaming and threatening everyone else for it.

They are saying it sunk now.  



Edit, cleaned up link.
https://tass.com/russia/1438045

Ya don't think Jan Oberg has partaken of the Xi Kool-Aid do ya?

But, “muh Ghost of Kiev!”[while wearing a Ghost of Kiev T-shirt made in China]

Naaaa it's still "Special Operation 1"

.... oh so special operation 1.

He was killed because he spoke the truth. Accident my ass.

Name one war where we didn't supply arms to either side.

Written by a Swede. Fucking shocking

no picture of olga, no care

Your panicky fear is getting tiresome, even to us.

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Proxy war was decided in ‘98, just took awhile to get here. Knew it then so, meh.

Truth.  Patton was in the way in 1945 just like Trump was in the way in 2020.

1931 with the Japanese invasion of Manchuria began the war in the east.

1939 invasion of Poland by Germany and Russia began the war in the west.

Pearl Harbor made it officially a world war.

A whole lot of appeasement of other provocations and breaches of treaties happened before most of that though.

All of this is hind sight though, while living through it, most people couldn't conceive what was coming.

Most people, if they'd been told of what was coming, would have laughed it off as the lunatic rantings of a madman.

I won't, but I wish I could, live ling enough to read the histories of this war to gain a better understanding of what we're living through.

The amount of estrogen in this thread is too damn high.

No. My dick is here, not there. I don't know whose dick you're looking at, but it ain't mine.

It's the author a Russian sympathizer?

From the article;
NATO has only one answer to every problem: It is somebody else's fault and we need more money and more weapons. After Russia's special military operation in Ukraine, NATO will drastically increase its military spending, although it is already 12 times higher than Russia's.
"Special military operation".

Has Putin attacked the U.S. yet? If so, that’s the start of WWIII.

Jokes aside, when is it worth it?

What you are asking of the west, as a whole, is to sit by and wait for the murdering, raping, madman to come to our individual doors then surrender to him without a fight, because he has nukes.

If he's going to launch them, he's going to launch them whether we kick his ass in Ukraine, or kick his ass in Poland when he comes for NATO.

I'm starting to think so. I have memories of that account engaging in meaningful conversations before but now it's all just buzzword salad.

I care because nothing happens in a vacuum and because I am not an idiot.

Personally I don't care about the border arrangements between Russia and Ukraine. I do care in a sort of generic way about people dying and all, but that happens all over the world so I don't have any particular reason to care more about Ukrainian's being murdered by a neighboring country than about Africans being murdered, or Chinese being murdered, or any other tragedy that happens around the globe.

But if Russia gets to waltz in and take Ukraine while the rest of the world shrugs their shoulders and looks the other way then what is next? Finland used to be part of the Russian Empire, so did most of Poland, and the Baltic States. Maybe Putin wants them back too. And maybe he wants Turkey as well. He might want to take Greece, Romania, Moldavia, an Bulgaria while he's at it... There's no end to the territory Putin would conquer if he could and the only reason for him to stop is by fighting back.

Now, we can let him Putin go and eventually he will attack someone we do care about and we will have to intervene. Or we can send our military over to Ukraine, get involved in that war directly, and risk WWIII. OR we can send enough weapons and economic support to Ukraine that they can fight back against Putin themselves. As of right now we are going with #3 and that's probably the best, and safest option.

Not only that, but there are other countries with ambitions to take territory and if Russia tries and fails then that might convince those other, unnamed countries, not to try as well.

And if the West does nothing then smaller countries will have to start building up their militaries to defend themselves and seeking out other alliances, alliances which ultimately might directly threaten the US.


Oh, and sending arms to a nation involved in a defensive war is not an act of war. Also, all of that bluster about WWIII is just put out to try to intimidate American cowards... Look, I know that American isolationists are not cowards. I get that. But the Russians and Chinese sure don't. When they see an isolationist American they see someone with his trousers down around his ankles, bent over on his knees with his head under a rug and his bare ass up in the air, saying "do anything, just don't kill me!"

Cant we just tell russia that we will send them supplies to. Just to make it fair. Then send them a bunch of ospreys

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And North Korea.

Russia has killed far more Americans in acts of open war than America has killed Russians.

I guess that's one way to stop the amerikanski globohomo world order, da?  

Also, somebody needs to remind Putin that the US once committed an "act of war" (apparently) against Germany by shipping all kinds of aid to Russia. Cry me a river.

funny, I see only Russia getting its shit pushed in.

And England is still wondering why we bankrupted them by making them pay for every bullet they purchased us in WWII while we gave aid to Russia for free.  England finally paid off it's WWII debt to the US in December 2006.

It's time to stop deluding ourselves and face this reality.

Finland is coming to grips with this. Slowly.

What fear?

I literally couldn’t give a shit about either country and could care equally as little if they both eradicated one another.

Please cite my fear or you’re fake news, homie.

We have the right to associate, deal and trade with whoever the hell we want.

I get where your going with this but there is no grey area with some things. Should we is a different matter.

If Russia wants to use that as an excuse, fuck ‘em.

NATO troops aren’t dying. Only Russians and Ukrainians.

The world yawns. Russia may do something out of desperation since they are being backed into a corner but that would be their own fault and they wouldn’t be long for the world.

And you're also overlooking that the US overthrew a puppet government favorable to Russia and installed a puppet government favorable to us, and expanded NATO to the Russian border.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGq_Xvzn_3I

Hoping the Moskva had nukes on them and Ukraine salvages them lol.

I prefer scotch but bourbon works in a pinch.

Might as well flatten them then.

Maybe. But if that happened Ukraine Special Ops would be unleashed inside Russia taking out cities, politicians, car bombs, you name it.’

Well Putin sure showed those other non-NATO countries on his border that they don’t want to …. wait, what was he trying to prove again?

Russia announced that it sank yesterday.

Who gives a single fuck about what the Russians think