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Link Posted: 8/8/2019 5:59:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AA717driver:
Ok, we were ALL focused on Soros/Cabal funding these subversive groups.

What if it was the money given to Deep Blue cities and their corrupt Politicians? $16B will buy a lot of busses and bologna sandwiches for Antifa.

TC
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Originally Posted By AA717driver:
Originally Posted By MCSquared:

Much of the SJW movement, and Panty-fa, and other groups (BLM, OWS, etc) are all funded.  When the funding dries up, so will they.
Ok, we were ALL focused on Soros/Cabal funding these subversive groups.

What if it was the money given to Deep Blue cities and their corrupt Politicians? $16B will buy a lot of busses and bologna sandwiches for Antifa.

TC
I'm sorry, I thought we all knew that much of our tax dollars had been funneled to Soros groups.  It was probably laundered through these blue city slush funds.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 6:14:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Stlkid:
DONT take... the bait...
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Originally Posted By Stlkid:
Originally Posted By Fullautoguy:
Originally Posted By BM1455:
I would call that a act of war
DONT take... the bait...
Nah, just issue a maritime advisory stating that GPS is having technical issues near the entrance to the Strait of Hormuz and that all navigation should be performed in the old fashioned way.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 6:14:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By MCSquared:

I'm sorry, I thought we all knew that much of our tax dollars had been funneled to Soros groups.  It was probably laundered through these blue city slush funds.
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"Think Soros pays for Antifa out of his own pocket?"
"The American taxpayer pays for it all."
"Feel sick yet?"

Guess who said those quotes.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 6:18:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Plattekill:
"Think Soros pays for Antifa out of his own pocket?"
"The American taxpayer pays for it all."
"Feel sick yet?"

Guess who said those quotes.
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Originally Posted By Plattekill:
Originally Posted By MCSquared:

I'm sorry, I thought we all knew that much of our tax dollars had been funneled to Soros groups.  It was probably laundered through these blue city slush funds.
"Think Soros pays for Antifa out of his own pocket?"
"The American taxpayer pays for it all."
"Feel sick yet?"

Guess who said those quotes.
Do I get 17 guesses?
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 6:49:35 AM EST
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By Alyssa Rosenberg

Alyssa Rosenberg
Opinion writer covering culture
Opinion writer
August 7 at 5:32 PM

President Trump and his allies, including former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, are waging a covert campaign to root out an elite child-sex-trafficking ring. Mass arrests are imminent. John F. Kennedy Jr. is about to reveal that he has been alive all along so he can take Vice President Pence’s place on the 2020 Republican presidential ticket. And a mysterious government official using the handle “Q Clearance Patriot” is recruiting soldiers to the cause.

To most of us, these statements are almost too bizarre to be fathomed. But, for believers in the conspiracy theory known as QAnon, which the FBI recently identified as a domestic terrorist threat, they are important truths. I understand the temptation to dismiss anyone who believes in this wild concoction as merely easily misled. Such disdain makes it easier to believe that QAnon and beliefs like it remain at the fringes of American life. But to focus merely on QAnon’s content and not the form it takes is to miss why the conspiracy theory has spread so widely — and why similar ideas may prove incredibly difficult to combat.

The best way to think of QAnon may be not as a conspiracy theory, but as an unusually absorbing alternate-reality game with extremely low barriers to entry. The “Q” poster’s cryptic missives give believers a task to complete on a semiregular basis. Even more so than conventional video games such as “Fortnite Battle Royale,” which rolls out new seasons with new scenarios roughly every 10 weeks, QAnon is open-ended — or it will be as long as the revelations continue.

You don’t need a game console or a special keyboard to engage with QAnon, and you don’t need fast reflexes or a knowledge of keyboard shortcuts to be an active and successful participant. The initial posts from “Q Clearance Patriot” appeared on 4chan, and QAnon discussions migrated from there to Reddit and then on to 8chan. YouTube video creators have found that QAnon content is a lucrative niche; there are active QAnon Facebook groups. And apps such as QDrops, banned from the Apple store but still available for Android, can deliver news of fresh Q pronouncements straight to a user’s phone.

Once a person has started consuming QAnon content, the actual gameplay is relatively simple. Participants concoct their own interpretations of Q’s gnostic “bread crumbs,” or share those dreamed up by others.

If this were a conventional game, the play might end there. But QAnon players have shown an increasing tendency to enlist the rest of us as unwilling participants in their fantasies, sometimes with violent consequences.

QAnon jumped into the public eye when believers began appearing at Trump rallies with Q-related shirts and signs in an attempt to thrust their message into public discussion. They have been successful: The president has amplified Twitter accounts that promote the theory, invited prominent believers to the White House and the Trump reelection campaign recently released an ad in which QAnon signs are visible. In 2018, a man used an armored truck to block traffic at the Hoover Dam while holding a sign demanding action on a QAnon priority. And earlier this year, a man allegedly killed reputed mafia boss Frank Cali while attempting to perform what he apparently described as a QAnon-inspired citizens arrest.

If QAnon functions like a puzzle game, other extremists are borrowing from the aesthetics of video games to stylize their massacres — and to challenge potential imitators to new heights of violence.

The gunman who killed 51 people and wounded another 49 in shootings in March at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, live-streamed the attack from his own perspective and scored it to a soundtrack, noted Robert Evans at the news site Bellingcat. A man who allegedly attacked a San Diego synagogue during Passover used similar production techniques. And on the message boards where racists lionize the killers, they often speak of these events in the competitive language of body counts.

While most QAnon believers will never engage in violence, part of the appeal of QAnon for participants is that the conspiracy theory assigns enormous significance to even relatively minor acts such as posting on message boards or sharing Facebook posts.

“It is addictive in the same way that a game is,” says Travis View, a researcher who studies QAnon. By contrast, “conventional political participation” is oriented toward far more mundane processes, and “That all has the impact of what, hopefully getting a state assembly member elected that you feel at best ambivalent about?” View suggests that “Q offers something a hell of a lot more. You can sit at your computer and search for information and then post about what you find, and Q basically promises that through this process, you are going to radically change the country, institute this incredible, almost bloodless revolution, and then be part of this historical movement that will be written about for generations.”

This promise of world-historical significance also justifies the time that QAnon believers spend deciphering posts and promoting Q. Even as the game-like qualities of QAnon draw in believers, they vigorously deny that they are participants in live-action role play: After all, if they were, why would the media and the government pay so much attention to them?

It’s one thing to try to debunk QAnon and white-supremacist ideas, whether by trying to prove that John F. Kennedy Jr. is definitively dead or to combat demographic narratives of “replacement.” It’s quite another to figure out how to offer adherents of QAnon and other distorted worldviews experiences that will be as thrilling and fulfilling as conspiracy games have become. As View put it, we’re living not in a marketplace of ideas but in a “marketplace of realities.” And the tools of gaming have given disaffected people the ability to bend our reality to theirs, whether we like it or not.
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Mentioned JFK twice to re-inforce "muh conspiracy..."

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Link Posted: 8/8/2019 6:49:49 AM EST
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Wooooo Boy!  That sounds rather ominous.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 6:54:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By nick89302:

"House of Cards" he says. Where have we seen that before...
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To be honest, that is a rather common phrase.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:00:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DPeacher:
To be honest, that is a rather common phrase.
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Originally Posted By DPeacher:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By nick89302:

"House of Cards" he says. Where have we seen that before...
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To be honest, that is a rather common phrase.
Was a pretty popular Netflix show about DC politics and The White House, as well.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:03:48 AM EST
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To be honest, that is a rather common phrase.
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I put it out there b/c someone asked, "Where have I seen that before?". It appears to be non-related.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:16:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Mentioned JFK twice to re-inforce "muh conspiracy..."

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That's what I'm talking about. They're going to pick out passages and use it against us.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:18:44 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Mentioned JFK twice to re-inforce "muh conspiracy..."

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Loved this reply to that tweet

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Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:23:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Stlkid:
Gulf of Tonkin  -  Vietnam
WMDs - iraq

These people are gangster making a profit on whatever commodity will line their pockets. Drugs, oil, weapons, people.

Find out what was the hot commodities in conflicts that the US has taken interest in.

The brothers have been saying for years that the cia has been running dope and guns into the cities.  We ignored it. I know I did. I thought it was BS inbred Streep thug talk.  But they would know wouldn’t they? They were the ones running the shit! Buying the shit off them interacting with them. It probably started out as just another black op medical test that was happening all around the country at the time but then the agents found you could also make a killing off it.

War on drugs just inflates the price more, making them more money.  Agents get busted come out as CIA meet with some government officials and pockets end up greased.

These people are tricksters and hustlers, the joker among villains.
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Originally Posted By Stlkid:
Originally Posted By chadjetlag:
Originally Posted By Stlkid:
Originally Posted By Fullautoguy:
Originally Posted By BM1455:
I would call that a act of war
DONT take... the bait...
Somebody desperately wants us to war with Iran....pro tip, it isn’t Iran
Gulf of Tonkin  -  Vietnam
WMDs - iraq

These people are gangster making a profit on whatever commodity will line their pockets. Drugs, oil, weapons, people.

Find out what was the hot commodities in conflicts that the US has taken interest in.

The brothers have been saying for years that the cia has been running dope and guns into the cities.  We ignored it. I know I did. I thought it was BS inbred Streep thug talk.  But they would know wouldn’t they? They were the ones running the shit! Buying the shit off them interacting with them. It probably started out as just another black op medical test that was happening all around the country at the time but then the agents found you could also make a killing off it.

War on drugs just inflates the price more, making them more money.  Agents get busted come out as CIA meet with some government officials and pockets end up greased.

These people are tricksters and hustlers, the joker among villains.
Honk
True enough, in the midst of WWI with thousands dying daily on the Western Front, still the British Empire was diverting immense resources to the Middle East to secure post war oil supplies. Secret agreements such as Sykes-Picot were put in effect to secure the post war legal basis for the division of spoil.

However, there was also a far more sinister aspect to the organized slaughter by the Elites. That is, the annihilation of potential internal political opposition to the Elite. A quote from the "Great Class War" serves to illustrate. As things were just a mere 100 years ago that first day of the Somme Offensive when 20,000 died:

"Not a man shirked going through the extremely heavy barrage, or facing the machine-gun and rifle fire that finally wiped them out…He saw the lines which advanced in such admirable order melting away under the fire. Yet not a man wavered, broke the ranks, or attempted to come back. He has never seen, indeed could never have imagined, such a magnificent display of gallantry, discipline and determination. The report that he had had from the very few survivors of this marvellous advance bear out what he saw with his own eyes, viz, that hardly a man of ours got to the German front line.

In other words, the military authorities were pleased that the attack, though murderous, had demonstrated that they had managed to inculcate some discipline and class into proletarians who, during the socially turbulent years leading up to the war, punctuated by frequent demonstrations and strikes, had shown themselves to be restless, unruly, recalcitrant, even rebellious. During the attack they had obeyed orders, nicely lined up, like schoolchildren, then advanced slowly and unswervingly through the no man’s land, erect and dignified, just the way their superiors liked to see it. In fact, in order to make this a fine and enjoyable show for the superiors watching from a safe distance, the attack had been scheduled to take place in full daylight.

The satisfaction of the generals with the performance of their subordinates on July 1 was echoed by the media in Britain. A war correspondent over there reported that, “on balance, [it had been] a good day for England and France. It is a day of promise in this war.” The soldiers themselves, however, saw things in a different light. The Somme offensive, Haig’s “Big Push,” was referred to by the men as “the Great Fuck Up,” a term that would eventually also designate the war in general. It was a term with a double edge, reflecting not only the soldiers’ contempt for the generals, but also their perception of being terribly abused by Haig and their other superiors. The soldiers’ hatred and contempt of the generals was also voiced as follows by a famous war poet, Siegfried Sassoon, in the poem The General:

‘Good-morning; good-morning!’ the General said
When we met him last week on the way to the line.
Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of ‘em dead,
And we’re cursing his staff for incompetent swine.

In this context, it is worth citing a comment from the memoirs of the English writer J. B. Priestley, who acquired a “class conscience” as a result of his experiences as a soldier in the Great War, especially because of the way in which the officers treated their subordinates:

The British command specialised in throwing men away for nothing. The tradition of an upper class…killed most of my friends as surely as if those cavalry generals had come out of the chateaux with polo mallets and beaten our brains out. Call this class prejudice, if you like, so long as you remember…that I went into that war without any such prejudice, free of any class feeling."
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:26:25 AM EST
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Loved this reply to that tweet

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Ba'al is not amused.
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Originally Posted By StealthM8:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Mentioned JFK twice to re-inforce "muh conspiracy..."

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Loved this reply to that tweet

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Ba'al is not amused.
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No need to ask POTUS about such a conspiracy. It's more useful to keep in their pocket.

"often refer to these events in the language of body counts"? I guess I missed those convos on 8ch.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:33:04 AM EST
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Of course, for these Elites, a most endearing by product of war is the next crop of vulnerable orphans.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:34:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By seedlings:

No need to ask POTUS about such a conspiracy. It's more useful to keep in their pocket.

"often refer to these events in the language of body counts"? I guess I missed those convos on 8ch.
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That was more of a 4chan thing back when 4chan was unmoderated. They would tell people that posted they were going to shoot up a school to "Be An Hero", and "Get the high score!!"
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:34:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Mentioned JFK twice to re-inforce "muh conspiracy..."

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Here's the WaPo article from the tweet.

Act Four Opinion

I understand the temptation to dismiss QAnon. Here's why we can't.

By Alyssa Rosenberg
Opinion writer
August 7 at 5:32 PM

President Trump and his allies, including former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, are waging a covert campaign to root out an elite child-sex-trafficking ring. Mass arrests are imminent. John F. Kennedy Jr. is about to reveal that he has been alive all along so he can take Vice President Pence's place on the 2020 Republican presidential ticket. And a mysterious government official using the handle "Q Clearance Patriot" is recruiting soldiers to the cause.

To most of us, these statements are almost too bizarre to be fathomed. But, for believers in the conspiracy theory known as QAnon, which the FBI recently identified as a domestic terrorist threat, they are important truths. I understand the temptation to dismiss anyone who believes in this wild concoction as merely easily misled. Such disdain makes it easier to believe that QAnon and beliefs like it remain at the fringes of American life. But to focus merely on QAnon's content and not the form it takes is to miss why the conspiracy theory has spread so widely  and why similar ideas may prove incredibly difficult to combat.

The best way to think of QAnon may be not as a conspiracy theory, but as an unusually absorbing alternate-reality game with extremely low barriers to entry. The "Q" poster's cryptic missives give believers a task to complete on a semiregular basis. Even more so than conventional video games such as "Fortnite Battle Royale," which rolls out new seasons with new scenarios roughly every 10 weeks, QAnon is open-ended  or it will be as long as the revelations continue.

You don't need a game console or a special keyboard to engage with QAnon, and you don't need fast reflexes or a knowledge of keyboard shortcuts to be an active and successful participant. The initial posts from "Q Clearance Patriot" appeared on 4chan, and QAnon discussions migrated from there to Reddit and then on to 8chan. YouTube video creators have found that QAnon content is a lucrative niche; there are active QAnon Facebook groups. And apps such as QDrops, banned from the Apple store but still available for Android, can deliver news of fresh Q pronouncements straight to a user's phone.

Once a person has started consuming QAnon content, the actual gameplay is relatively simple. Participants concoct their own interpretations of Q's gnostic "bread crumbs," or share those dreamed up by others.

If this were a conventional game, the play might end there. But QAnon players have shown an increasing tendency to enlist the rest of us as unwilling participants in their fantasies, sometimes with violent consequences.

Video games did not invent hateful ideologies. The rush to blame them for mass shootings is a pathetic evasion of the truth, argues Alyssa Rosenberg. (Kate Woodsome, Joy Sharon Yi, Danielle Kunitz/The Washington Post)
QAnon jumped into the public eye when believers began appearing at Trump rallies with Q-related shirts and signs in an attempt to thrust their message into public discussion. They have been successful: The president has amplified Twitter accounts that promote the theory, invited prominent believers to the White House and the Trump reelection campaign recently released an ad in which QAnon signs are visible. In 2018, a man used an armored truck to block traffic at the Hoover Dam while holding a sign demanding action on a QAnon priority. And earlier this year, a man allegedly killed reputed mafia boss Frank Cali while attempting to perform what he apparently described as a QAnon-inspired citizens arrest.

If QAnon functions like a puzzle game, other extremists are borrowing from the aesthetics of video games to stylize their massacres  and to challenge potential imitators to new heights of violence.

The gunman who killed 51 people and wounded another 49 in shootings in March at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, live-streamed the attack from his own perspective and scored it to a soundtrack, noted Robert Evans at the news site Bellingcat. A man who allegedly attacked a San Diego synagogue during Passover used similar production techniques. And on the message boards where racists lionize the killers, they often speak of these events in the competitive language of body counts.

While most QAnon believers will never engage in violence, part of the appeal of QAnon for participants is that the conspiracy theory assigns enormous significance to even relatively minor acts such as posting on message boards or sharing Facebook posts.

"It is addictive in the same way that a game is," says Travis View, a researcher who studies QAnon. By contrast, "conventional political participation" is oriented toward far more mundane processes, and "That all has the impact of what, hopefully getting a state assembly member elected that you feel at best ambivalent about?" View suggests that "Q offers something a hell of a lot more. You can sit at your computer and search for information and then post about what you find, and Q basically promises that through this process, you are going to radically change the country, institute this incredible, almost bloodless revolution, and then be part of this historical movement that will be written about for generations."

This promise of world-historical significance also justifies the time that QAnon believers spend deciphering posts and promoting Q. Even as the game-like qualities of QAnon draw in believers, they vigorously deny that they are participants in live-action role play: After all, if they were, why would the media and the government pay so much attention to them?

It's one thing to try to debunk QAnon and white-supremacist ideas, whether by trying to prove that John F. Kennedy Jr. is definitively dead or to combat demographic narratives of "replacement." It's quite another to figure out how to offer adherents of QAnon and other distorted worldviews experiences that will be as thrilling and fulfilling as conspiracy games have become. As View put it, we're living not in a marketplace of ideas but in a "marketplace of realities." And the tools of gaming have given disaffected people the ability to bend our reality to theirs, whether we like it or not.

Philip Bump: Hours after an FBI warning about QAnon is published, a QAnon slogan turns up at Trump's rally

Travis View: How conspiracy theorists taint the justice they seek

Molly Roberts: QAnon is terrifying. This is why.

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I seem to recall more than a few threads justly raking MSM over the coals for failing to address violence perpetrated by Antifa.
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Diamond:
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They invited themselves to the tent when Q left the flap open. Whether or not they remain welcome is up to Q and, to a lesser degree, his flock.
Your opinion mirrors the Communist that run the MSM - duly noted.

By the same token, if the MSM espouses the same talking points as antifa - where exactly is the denoucement from MSM? If they cover up the violence, distort the connections or withhold the names of the players - are they complicit? What about all of the corporations or investment funds that own / subsidiary to / conglomerate with / advertise on such MSM - should they say something too?
I seem to recall more than a few threads justly raking MSM over the coals for failing to address violence perpetrated by Antifa.
Well it is the fundamental part their job to report the news of the world.
The reason they supposed to exist is to report on who what where and when.  Beyond that is not news, but political.  Whatever side.  
Editorializing, proselytizing, and dispensing propaganda was not something that was supposed to be within their duties and protections under the 1A.   It’s always been there but has become so widespread and unhinged that the mask is off.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:42:16 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:47:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AA717driver:
This.

Two can play the Red Flag game.

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Originally Posted By AA717driver:
This.

Two can play the Red Flag game.

TC
Depends on the judges in any given area.  If you get a liberal/leftist judge, they will choose to ignore those they want to ignore
No sure thing it can be turned on the left.
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 7:49:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By StealthM8:
Here's the WaPo article from the tweet.

Act Four Opinion

I understand the temptation to dismiss QAnon. Here's why we can't.

By Alyssa Rosenberg
Opinion writer
August 7 at 5:32 PM

President Trump and his allies, including former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, are waging a covert campaign to root out an elite child-sex-trafficking ring. Mass arrests are imminent. John F. Kennedy Jr. is about to reveal that he has been alive all along so he can take Vice President Pence's place on the 2020 Republican presidential ticket. And a mysterious government official using the handle "Q Clearance Patriot" is recruiting soldiers to the cause.

To most of us, these statements are almost too bizarre to be fathomed. But, for believers in the conspiracy theory known as QAnon, which the FBI recently identified as a domestic terrorist threat, they are important truths. I understand the temptation to dismiss anyone who believes in this wild concoction as merely easily misled. Such disdain makes it easier to believe that QAnon and beliefs like it remain at the fringes of American life. But to focus merely on QAnon's content and not the form it takes is to miss why the conspiracy theory has spread so widely  and why similar ideas may prove incredibly difficult to combat.

The best way to think of QAnon may be not as a conspiracy theory, but as an unusually absorbing alternate-reality game with extremely low barriers to entry. The "Q" poster's cryptic missives give believers a task to complete on a semiregular basis. Even more so than conventional video games such as "Fortnite Battle Royale," which rolls out new seasons with new scenarios roughly every 10 weeks, QAnon is open-ended  or it will be as long as the revelations continue.

You don't need a game console or a special keyboard to engage with QAnon, and you don't need fast reflexes or a knowledge of keyboard shortcuts to be an active and successful participant. The initial posts from "Q Clearance Patriot" appeared on 4chan, and QAnon discussions migrated from there to Reddit and then on to 8chan. YouTube video creators have found that QAnon content is a lucrative niche; there are active QAnon Facebook groups. And apps such as QDrops, banned from the Apple store but still available for Android, can deliver news of fresh Q pronouncements straight to a user's phone.

Once a person has started consuming QAnon content, the actual gameplay is relatively simple. Participants concoct their own interpretations of Q's gnostic "bread crumbs," or share those dreamed up by others.

If this were a conventional game, the play might end there. But QAnon players have shown an increasing tendency to enlist the rest of us as unwilling participants in their fantasies, sometimes with violent consequences.

Video games did not invent hateful ideologies. The rush to blame them for mass shootings is a pathetic evasion of the truth, argues Alyssa Rosenberg. (Kate Woodsome, Joy Sharon Yi, Danielle Kunitz/The Washington Post)
QAnon jumped into the public eye when believers began appearing at Trump rallies with Q-related shirts and signs in an attempt to thrust their message into public discussion. They have been successful: The president has amplified Twitter accounts that promote the theory, invited prominent believers to the White House and the Trump reelection campaign recently released an ad in which QAnon signs are visible. In 2018, a man used an armored truck to block traffic at the Hoover Dam while holding a sign demanding action on a QAnon priority. And earlier this year, a man allegedly killed reputed mafia boss Frank Cali while attempting to perform what he apparently described as a QAnon-inspired citizens arrest.

If QAnon functions like a puzzle game, other extremists are borrowing from the aesthetics of video games to stylize their massacres  and to challenge potential imitators to new heights of violence.

The gunman who killed 51 people and wounded another 49 in shootings in March at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, live-streamed the attack from his own perspective and scored it to a soundtrack, noted Robert Evans at the news site Bellingcat. A man who allegedly attacked a San Diego synagogue during Passover used similar production techniques. And on the message boards where racists lionize the killers, they often speak of these events in the competitive language of body counts.

While most QAnon believers will never engage in violence, part of the appeal of QAnon for participants is that the conspiracy theory assigns enormous significance to even relatively minor acts such as posting on message boards or sharing Facebook posts.

"It is addictive in the same way that a game is," says Travis View, a researcher who studies QAnon. By contrast, "conventional political participation" is oriented toward far more mundane processes, and "That all has the impact of what, hopefully getting a state assembly member elected that you feel at best ambivalent about?" View suggests that "Q offers something a hell of a lot more. You can sit at your computer and search for information and then post about what you find, and Q basically promises that through this process, you are going to radically change the country, institute this incredible, almost bloodless revolution, and then be part of this historical movement that will be written about for generations."

This promise of world-historical significance also justifies the time that QAnon believers spend deciphering posts and promoting Q. Even as the game-like qualities of QAnon draw in believers, they vigorously deny that they are participants in live-action role play: After all, if they were, why would the media and the government pay so much attention to them?

It's one thing to try to debunk QAnon and white-supremacist ideas, whether by trying to prove that John F. Kennedy Jr. is definitively dead or to combat demographic narratives of "replacement." It's quite another to figure out how to offer adherents of QAnon and other distorted worldviews experiences that will be as thrilling and fulfilling as conspiracy games have become. As View put it, we're living not in a marketplace of ideas but in a "marketplace of realities." And the tools of gaming have given disaffected people the ability to bend our reality to theirs, whether we like it or not.

Philip Bump: Hours after an FBI warning about QAnon is published, a QAnon slogan turns up at Trump's rally

Travis View: How conspiracy theorists taint the justice they seek

Molly Roberts: QAnon is terrifying. This is why.

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Washington post can suck a fat shit covered dick.  I’ve seen the evidence and connections.  I’ve seen the pushback, With MY eyes.  I don’t need useless talking point from a has been media outlet.
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You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
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My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
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Washington post can suck a fat shit covered dick.  I've seen the evidence and connections.  I've seen the pushback, With MY eyes.  I don't need useless talking point from a has been media outlet.
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My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
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Originally Posted By dmnoid77:

You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
Military planning and execution at its finest.
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Originally Posted By kallnojoy:
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
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Originally Posted By dmnoid77:

You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
It's a fabric of many threads and intricate warps and wefts. Interwoven are elements evocative of Operation Trust
Link Posted: 8/8/2019 8:30:55 AM EST
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Originally Posted By kallnojoy:
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
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Originally Posted By kallnojoy:
Originally Posted By dmnoid77:

You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
Not to sound like an apologist here, but Q, whoever they be, has never said "we have the datacenter".

Don't conflate possession of "the servers" with "having our own facilities from which to broadcast to the innertubes". Q chose an extant platform.
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Originally Posted By Sevenator:
Not to sound like an apologist here, but Q, whoever they be, has never said "we have the datacenter".

Don't conflate possession of "the servers" with "having our own facilities from which to broadcast to the innertubes". Q chose an extant platform.
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Originally Posted By kallnojoy:
Originally Posted By dmnoid77:

You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
Not to sound like an apologist here, but Q, whoever they be, has never said "we have the datacenter".

Don't conflate possession of "the servers" with "having our own facilities from which to broadcast to the innertubes". Q chose an extant platform.
MI operates and maintains distribution networks for developed products.  Running a web server is child's play.
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Originally Posted By Sevenator:
Not to sound like an apologist here, but Q, whoever they be, has never said "we have the datacenter".

Don't conflate possession of "the servers" with "having our own facilities from which to broadcast to the innertubes". Q chose an extant platform.
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Originally Posted By Sevenator:
Originally Posted By kallnojoy:
Originally Posted By dmnoid77:

You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
Not to sound like an apologist here, but Q, whoever they be, has never said "we have the datacenter".

Don't conflate possession of "the servers" with "having our own facilities from which to broadcast to the innertubes". Q chose an extant platform.
I was merely pointing out the ironic position they find themselves in.
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MI operates and maintains distribution networks for developed products.  Running a web server is child's play.
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Originally Posted By Sevenator:
Originally Posted By kallnojoy:
Originally Posted By dmnoid77:

You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
My first thought too, unfortunately.

"We have the servers" ... but apparently can't sustain our own.
Not to sound like an apologist here, but Q, whoever they be, has never said "we have the datacenter".

Don't conflate possession of "the servers" with "having our own facilities from which to broadcast to the innertubes". Q chose an extant platform.
MI operates and maintains distribution networks for developed products.  Running a web server is child's play.
It is child's play, but you're missing my point that Q is merely a poster on a board, just like you and I are here.

Q =/= Goatboy
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You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
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Why the need to try and misrepresent my position on issues?  
Nobody is misrepresenting your position.
No, they are flat out lying about my position.
No....just no
Actually, yes.  And not just a little bit.

Go ahead and find one single post I have made in support of Antifa or the media treatment of their activities.
You’re sliding the argument again....that isn’t what said. If you doubt it....you can go read it again.
Why do you bother arguing with someone so duplicitous that they constantly have nothing but negativity to post, with the extremely occasional nugget of info?  And when they overstep and get proven wrong, are unable to accept that?
You're following the exploits of a MI group so proficient that they couldn't figure out how to sustain operations.
This reminds me of a humorous incident when I was a teenager.  I had a party at my house when my parents were away, nothing to the levels of risky business but more goofy fun.

Anyways some people were dancing and drinking and doing typical party stuff but in one room there was a kid playing Top Gun on my Nintendo.  I walk into the room and this other kid says to me, hey look at so and so he’s playing Nintendo during a party, what a dork.

I turned to him and said look at you, you’re watching him play Nintendo at a party, who is the bigger dork?

You’re that guy
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multiple issues
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