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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:04:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's my new vest I bought for summer. It is leather and genuine python skin. This is the good kind of snake - a dead one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49274/PythonVest-1950052.jpg (Yeah just kidding. I know snakes are important to the ecology and eat rats and other shit we don't want. I love me some snakes. Spare me the torches and pitchforks, ya jamochs).  |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:04:39 AM EDT
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I'll post some of my old pics, for ID. All are from here in Missouri.
This is a DeKays Brown Snake   A couple of Ringnecks  Eastern Copperhead     Ribbon Snake (it took off quickly, so I couldn't get a closer pic)   Ringneck   Eastern Yellow-Bellied Racers    |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:05:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the current recommended first aid for a venomous snake bite? Check that the snake is breathing and has a pulse. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:05:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually looks like a cottonmouth to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/Resized_20210509_170603_jpg-1950022.JPG ETA: No ID needed I know exactly what it is, just posting as a good representative photo Juvenile copperhead about to be deprived of his lunch and his life Need glasses |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:10:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:10:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Curiously enough, Dave has a Pueblan milk snake named Sinalo! ( Actually, it's named Pueblo; pretty creative, huh?) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Had a sinaloan milk snake named Dave years back. He was cool as shit. Curiously enough, Dave has a Pueblan milk snake named Sinalo! ( Actually, it's named Pueblo; pretty creative, huh?) Haha no shit? That's too funny 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:11:10 AM EDT
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Several Western Rat Snakes
    A bite from one of those two above  A tooth that came out during that bite. It came to the surface some weeks later    My daughter  Another Ringneck   |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Here's my new vest I bought for summer. It is leather and genuine python skin. This is the good kind of snake - a dead one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49274/PythonVest-1950052.jpg (Yeah just kidding. I know snakes are important to the ecology and eat rats and other shit we don't want. I love me some snakes. Spare me the torches and pitchforks, ya jamochs). https://i.redd.it/rbon3cjf14m41.jpg I want a pair like this!  
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:23:18 AM EDT
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Saw this one on a walk yesterday afternoon. It was dead but I'm not sure why. Juvenile snake, 8 or 9 inches long, eyes were eaten by red ants so I couldn't make an ID by that method, but the head shape appears to be a viper?
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:24:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:25:04 AM EDT
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Serious (and funny) reply:
When I was a boy I used to catch garter snakes in our backyard in summer. Not for any particular reason - just for the sheer sport of catching them. I always let them go after I caught them. Well on more than once occasion, I learned something interesting about catching snakes with your bare hands. That being, snakes will shit all over the hands of 12 year old boys when caught. White milky substance. It's snake shit.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:27:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Need glasses No... you need glasses. See the spooky face in the patches? Telltale cotton mouth markings. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:38:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Saw this one on a walk yesterday afternoon. It was dead but I'm not sure why. Juvenile snake, 8 or 9 inches long, eyes were eaten by red ants so I couldn't make an ID by that method, but the head shape appears to be a viper? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329797/20210520_135615_jpg-1950069.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329797/20210520_133341_jpg-1950071.JPG Looks like a Milk Snake. https://www.marshall.edu/herp/Snakes/Eastern_Milksnake.htm |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:39:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryCopperhead |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:41:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Saw this one on a walk yesterday afternoon. It was dead but I'm not sure why. Juvenile snake, 8 or 9 inches long, eyes were eaten by red ants so I couldn't make an ID by that method, but the head shape appears to be a viper? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329797/20210520_135615_jpg-1950069.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/329797/20210520_133341_jpg-1950071.JPG Rat snake. My first tell for vipers vs safes is the tail, not the head. They go from fat to thin rather abruptly whereas water snakes or rats taper off gradually. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:41:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Serious (and funny) reply: When I was a boy I used to catch garter snakes in our backyard in summer. Not for any particular reason - just for the sheer sport of catching them. I always let them go after I caught them. Well on more than once occasion, I learned something interesting about catching snakes with your bare hands. That being, snakes will shit all over the hands of 12 year old boys when caught. White milky substance. It's snake shit. That's not just poop. They also release a smelly musk. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:43:35 AM EDT
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Reptiles and amphibs, nnakes in particular, are one of my favorite photo subjects.
   Not a snake 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 9:44:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No... you need glasses. See the spooky face in the patches? Telltale cotton mouth markings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Need glasses The pixelated edges on the pattern is more consistent.   |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:22:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want a pair like this! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49274/Pointy_Boot_Week_01-1950064.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Here's my new vest I bought for summer. It is leather and genuine python skin. This is the good kind of snake - a dead one. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49274/PythonVest-1950052.jpg (Yeah just kidding. I know snakes are important to the ecology and eat rats and other shit we don't want. I love me some snakes. Spare me the torches and pitchforks, ya jamochs). https://i.redd.it/rbon3cjf14m41.jpg I want a pair like this! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/49274/Pointy_Boot_Week_01-1950064.jpg |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:24:49 AM EDT
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In my yard while we were building the house:
 Attached FileThe road I live on (different snakes)  Attached File Attached FileThe two I found on one of our trails last year. I hated to do it but the wife a d kids being comfortable walking out property trumps the value of the snakes:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:35:54 AM EDT
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Timber Rattlesnakes.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:37:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was Carl Kauffield your hero growing up?  I read his books as a kid. I still have them and re-read them on occasion. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:39:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:40:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No... you need glasses. See the spooky face in the patches? Telltale cotton mouth markings. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Need glasses No... you need glasses. See the spooky face in the patches? Telltale cotton mouth markings. LOL, get over it, it was a copperhead. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:41:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL, get over it, it was a copperhead. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Need glasses Wrong, but what makes you think that? |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:43:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Timber Rattlesnakes. We have tons of them around here - I've seen more of them than any other snake I've seen since we lived here and I've seen more of them than all the other venomous snakes I've seen anywhere in my adult life before we moved here, I think. Two years ago, a couple of miles from our house, a Sheriff's deputy rolled up on a couple of camping/sleeping methheads(?) and a timber rattler was laying next to them. Hilarity ensued. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/deputy-saves-pair-from-rattlesnake |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:45:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThis is one of my girls as a juvenile, she was born here. She is mature now, bred last monsoon season and should give birth this summer if all goes well. @bobweaver your thoughts on this one? |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:47:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong, but what makes you think that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Need glasses Wrong, but what makes you think that? I think at this point he is just trolling. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:47:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Need glasses You're right that the major pattern, and colors, are indicative of a copperhead, but if you look at the details of the pattern, it's 100% cottonmouth. Confession: at first glance I thought it was a copperhead. But it is not. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:48:10 AM EDT
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 Edit - at the guy running from the rattler.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:54:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit - at the guy running from the rattler. Poor snake. Just trying to stay warm. He heard the cops coming and figured he'd better split. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 10:58:52 AM EDT
[#34]
 Attached FileWe have plenty of these in my backyard on the San Gabriel River near Georgetown. I leave them alone and they generally stay hidden under mulch or leaves. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:05:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong, but what makes you think that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Need glasses Wrong, but what makes you think that? No facial band. I gave him a thorough post mortem. I kill dozens a year ,almost entirely copperhead.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:11:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No facial band. I gave him a thorough post mortem. I kill dozens a year ,almost entirely copperhead. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/Resized952021050995170755_jpg-1950198.JPG I see the Cottonmouth pattern. That is not a Copperhead. Edit - Compare it to these pics, and you'll see the Cottonmouth pattern. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:12:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see the Cottonmouth pattern. That is not a Copperhead. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No facial band. I gave him a thorough post mortem. I kill dozens a year ,almost entirely copperhead. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/Resized952021050995170755_jpg-1950198.JPG I see the Cottonmouth pattern. That is not a Copperhead. It is a cottonmouth |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:18:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No facial band. I gave him a thorough post mortem. I kill dozens a year ,almost entirely copperhead.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/Resized952021050995170755_jpg-1950198.JPG   |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:22:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't always have the distinct facial markings. http://herpsofnc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Agkistrodon-piscivorus-6.10.02-Hatteras-NC-4-copy.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/52/f3/8b/52f38bb30321adebaab4bfe15de04108.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No facial band. I gave him a thorough post mortem. I kill dozens a year ,almost entirely copperhead.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/Resized952021050995170755_jpg-1950198.JPG http://herpsofnc.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Agkistrodon-piscivorus-6.10.02-Hatteras-NC-4-copy.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/52/f3/8b/52f38bb30321adebaab4bfe15de04108.jpg They do when they are juveniles. That is quite literally the only real way to tell them apart. Here is a cottonmouth that met the same fate.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:24:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see the Cottonmouth pattern. That is not a Copperhead. Edit - Compare it to these pics, and you'll see the Cottonmouth pattern. https://i.postimg.cc/hvm9YBc3/Copperhead-Cottonmouth-Comparison.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No facial band. I gave him a thorough post mortem. I kill dozens a year ,almost entirely copperhead. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38312/Resized952021050995170755_jpg-1950198.JPG I see the Cottonmouth pattern. That is not a Copperhead. Edit - Compare it to these pics, and you'll see the Cottonmouth pattern. https://i.postimg.cc/hvm9YBc3/Copperhead-Cottonmouth-Comparison.jpg You're failing to take into account the fact it is a juvenile not an adult. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:42:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're failing to take into account the fact it is a juvenile not an adult. No, I'm not. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 11:51:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I'm not. OK, whatever makes you happy |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 12:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat’s always a hair-raising sight no matter how many times it’s happened in the past. I once was standing in a small creek that was feeding down a cypress tree thicket into the Pedernales River at Reimers Ranch and catching small watersnakes for all the little kids. The bank was covered in ferns and I had my hands in there combing through the fronds and suddenly saw a flash of white, which was a very large, and very fat, female cottonmouth whose head was literally 6” from my face. I immediately put my right hand to the side of her head and as soon as she turned towards it I leaped back into the creek. Even though I’m comfortable picking up hots, I still get scared of snakes from time to time. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 12:26:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is one of my girls as a juvenile, she was born here. She is mature now, bred last monsoon season and should give birth this summer if all goes well. @bobweaver your thoughts on this one? Little Prarie? AZ has the best snakes. The most beautiful rattler I’ve ever caught was at Enchanted Rock State Park. This female blacktailed was colored just like the pink granite with quartz mixed in, sort of like the speckles in AZ. I was so pissed I didn’t have my camera with me. |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 12:48:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Little Prarie? AZ has the best snakes. The most beautiful rattler I’ve ever caught was at Enchanted Rock State Park. This female blacktailed was colored just like the pink granite with quartz mixed in, sort of like the speckles in AZ. I was so pissed I didn’t have my camera with me. Not viridis, though it does have a bit of a viridis look to it. It comes from an area that is currently considered cerberus range. The snake has actually lightened up even more with age. DNA results show cerberus and lutosus/abyssus. The area is well south of known abyssus and lutosus range. Interesting snakes. We always find the great ones when we don't have our cameras with us! lol |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 1:16:48 PM EDT
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Found this smooth green snake cruising my backyard up in PA one summer
 my brother was pissed that i did not catch him for his summer camp class |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:00:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not viridis, though it does have a bit of a viridis look to it. It comes from an area that is currently considered cerberus range. The snake has actually lightened up even more with age. DNA results show cerberus and lutosus/abyssus. The area is well south of known abyssus and lutosus range. Interesting snakes. We always find the great ones when we don't have our cameras with us! lol Interesting. Does have some Basin and Pacific look to it. How’s its temperament? |
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. Does have some Basin and Pacific look to it. How’s its temperament? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not viridis, though it does have a bit of a viridis look to it. It comes from an area that is currently considered cerberus range. The snake has actually lightened up even more with age. DNA results show cerberus and lutosus/abyssus. The area is well south of known abyssus and lutosus range. Interesting snakes. We always find the great ones when we don't have our cameras with us! lol Interesting. Does have some Basin and Pacific look to it. How’s its temperament? I've had a number of them from this locale, all have been calm and great eaters. While they have similar physical traits, not two look alike either. Here's a male from the same area. 
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:35:25 PM EDT
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This one was really docile. They come roaming through our shop from time to time.
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Posted: 5/21/2021 3:44:43 PM EDT
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Identify these two. I believe both are non venomous, although I thought the top one was a baby daimondback at first when I almost ran over it.
This one had lunch in its belly.  Saw this guy while fishing off a pond dock  
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