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Posted: 10/28/2019 11:47:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
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SpaceX president teases Starship’s game-changing Starlink launch capabilities
"A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket can launch 60 Starlink satellites at a time but that's only a fraction of what Starship will be able to do, President Gwynne Shotwell said. "Starship can take 400 satellites." Note the payload deployment animation in the linked article. |
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Posted: 10/28/2019 4:46:20 PM EDT
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Was interesting watching the Star Link Sats. deploy the first time.
I expect them to be sent out individually, like a slow Salmon Spawn. Ingenious. Cold weather and clearer skies are coming, will make for some sky nice viewing, and VLF radio listening, 160 M Amateur Radio. And guitar time, and getting caught up on unfinished projects. I'm whupped already! 
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Posted: 10/28/2019 7:10:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigPony]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Yes and no. Mars doesn't have "soil", it has dirt, big difference. And no one knows if you can really grow much in it or not. I'm gonna guess you're bringing your own "soil" if you want to grow anything. Not counting our Maaaaatt Deeeaaammmon "documentary" We will see on the whole water thing, I hope that's right at least. Plus mars has radiation! Glorious radiation! Also, in news from the Boca build site, the legs are now attached and the huge crane "BigO" that attaches the lower and upper halves just arrived in the compound about 30 minutes ago. 
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Posted: 10/29/2019 1:16:51 PM EDT
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got some activity today
 Live! 24/7 SpaceX Boca Chica Starship Construction and Launch Facility |
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Posted: 10/29/2019 5:20:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigPony]
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Yup.. bottom section has been moved from the build stand and placed onto roll lifts. Still no engines in it though as far as can be told, and the winglets are not attached.
Rumor is, either they will complete those things on the roll lifts or at the pad as they want to get going on Mk3 on the build platform, or they are testing the newly installed landing legs. But these are all guesses. 
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Posted: 10/30/2019 1:19:22 PM EDT
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Moved across the street today. Building facility is clear for MK3 build.
Final assembly of mk1 underway!! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/30/2019 1:38:35 PM EDT
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Are they building these outside of waco? We just about have to super glue our dishes in the cabinets every time they test an engine out here.
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Posted: 10/30/2019 3:30:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Yes and no. Mars doesn't have "soil", it has dirt, big difference. And no one knows if you can really grow much in it or not. I'm gonna guess you're bringing your own "soil" if you want to grow anything. Not counting our Maaaaatt Deeeaaammmon "documentary" We will see on the whole water thing, I hope that's right at least. Plus mars has radiation! Glorious radiation!  Interesting Results From an Experiment Growing Plants in Mars/Moon Soil They do know that you can in fact grow quite a lot in Mars regolith. Mars has less radiation than an in space habitat would have... and that radiation is relatively easy to guard against. A plastic green house could easily knock the radiation down to manageable levels for plants. You would bury the rest of the human habitation modules for radiation protection. Radiation comes in many "flavors" The one you most need to guard against is ionizing radiation. Materials High in Hydrogen such as Water and the Hydrocarbons that Plastic is made out of are great for that. The other concern is cosmic rays... Our atmosphere here is primarily responsible for reducing but not eliminating our exposure to Cosmic rays... that and the planet itself shielding us from half the sky all the time. On Mars you also have a planet shielding you from half the sky... But very little atmosphere. So that's why you bury the habitat. Being on Mars you would get less radiation exposure than you'd get on the journey back and forth on the space ship. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 4:49:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2019 5:51:56 PM EDT
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Just think. They are soon going to be working on 3 Starships at the same flipping time! It is crazy to even think about.
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Posted: 10/30/2019 6:13:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2019 6:18:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SoCalExile]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093:
I can't get over how cheap that thing looks. It's like they're using a corn silo. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 7:59:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigPony]
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Mk1 is just for a shorter 20km launch and land proofing technologies. Mk2 looks much cleaner in Fl and Mk3 will be cleaner looking still..
This was taken just today of the Mk2 Starship build. On the ground near Mk2 you can see the steele for mk4 and it looks absolutely flawless. Mk3 and and beyond will all be single seem builds and thinner steele.  SpaceX Starship Cocoa Facility 30 October 2019 The main things for mk1 that they are testing are the new design raptor engines. If it can haul this (the heaviest of Starship model they will ever build without being full of supplies) they are gtg. The winglets that assist with the landing targeting need to hold together against the forces of falling from that height and the landing procedure with the "kick over" maneuver to land vertically as well as the landing legs. It does not have to look pretty on mk1, it just has to work. Then each successive prototype they build from there on will look more and more flawless in the quality. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:45:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
It's just for hops iirc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
Originally Posted By ludder093:
I can't get over how cheap that thing looks. It's like they're using a corn silo. 
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Posted: 10/30/2019 9:48:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
It's just for hops iirc. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 10:36:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
12 mile high hops. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By M-1975:
It's just for hops iirc. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 10:41:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Harlikwin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_of_Orion:
umm...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aJl1r1E0b4
They do know that you can in fact grow quite a lot in Mars regolith. Mars has less radiation than an in space habitat would have... and that radiation is relatively easy to guard against. A plastic green house could easily knock the radiation down to manageable levels for plants. You would bury the rest of the human habitation modules for radiation protection. Radiation comes in many "flavors" The one you most need to guard against is ionizing radiation. Materials High in Hydrogen such as Water and the Hydrocarbons that Plastic is made out of are great for that. The other concern is cosmic rays... Our atmosphere here is primarily responsible for reducing but not eliminating our exposure to Cosmic rays... that and the planet itself shielding us from half the sky all the time. On Mars you also have a planet shielding you from half the sky... But very little atmosphere. So that's why you bury the habitat. Being on Mars you would get less radiation exposure than you'd get on the journey back and forth on the space ship. Yes, I also know about radiation. I think its a lesser issue once you are on mars, but you will grow a 3rd dick getting there, or leukemia which is a bit less fun. |
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Posted: 10/30/2019 10:47:07 PM EDT
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I can see how oxygen, water, carbon, steel and glass could be readily available on Mars, but what about the nitrogen that makes up 80-some percent of what we breathe?
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Posted: 10/31/2019 12:43:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigPony]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: LOL, did you bother to actually read that paper or have any science background at all? The mixed it with a shitton of earth organic material. "Soil" exists in exactly one place in the universe, HERE. Its filled with microbes and other shit and not much "rock" or "dirt". Yes, you can take some martian "dust"/"rock" etc. But if you gotta mix it with enough actual "soil" it will work. I love the fact that the lunar regolith is at pH 10, plants LOVE that, even more than BRAWNDO! . You should go yum down some bleach and you'll love it to!!! And of course this is with "Simulated" stuff, since we don't have any actual material to work with from mars, and nasa isn't about to grow anything in "real" lunar dirt. So at best its guess. I was frankly shocked that actually made it into peer reviewed journal, until I check the actual impact factor of it 0.35, (that's a fucking joke of an impact factor, dogshit journals from India have higher impact factors than that). Yes, I also know about radiation. I think its a lesser issue once you are on mars, but you will grow a 3rd dick getting there, or leukemia which is a bit less fun. So one trip there and back for crew is not going to be lethal.Now staying on Mars is going to require below ground habs or heavily shielded |
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Posted: 10/31/2019 10:19:25 AM EDT
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 SpaceX Starship Relocated To Launch Pad (Time Lapse) |
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Posted: 11/1/2019 5:03:12 AM EDT
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Interesting article on radiation exposure/risks for Mars Mission
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/20/omg-space-is-full-of-radiation-and-why-im-not-worried/ |
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Posted: 11/1/2019 9:48:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AJ_Dual]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigPony:
Interesting article on radiation exposure/risks for Mars Mission https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/20/omg-space-is-full-of-radiation-and-why-im-not-worried/ https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/29/the-spacex-starship-is-a-very-big-deal/ |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 6:49:45 AM EDT
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They are attaching the fins now.
Still planning on December 12 mile launch. |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 7:36:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual: Casey's blog is excellent... This is 100% hyperbolic optimism, IMO, but if SpaceX realizes even a fraction of what Casey is talking about here with Starship, it's going to be revolutionary, and will definitely be the marked point that humanity's "space age" really started. Everything before Starship is going to look like the Wright Brothers hops on Kitty Hawk in terms of aviation analogies. https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/29/the-spacex-starship-is-a-very-big-deal/ "The Space Age began with the development of several technologies that converged with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik 1 by the Soviet Union. This was the world's first artificial satellite, orbiting the Earth in 98.1 minutes and weighing 83 kg (183 lb). The launch of Sputnik 1 ushered in a new era of political, scientific and technological achievements that became known as the Space Age.[2] The Space Age was characterized by rapid development of new technology in a close race mostly between the United States and the Soviet Union. Rapid advances were made in rocketry, materials science, computers and other areas. Much of the technology originally developed for space applications has been spun off and found additional uses, memory foam is an example of this. The Space Age reached its peak with the Apollo program, that captured the imagination of much of the world's population. The landing of Apollo 11 was watched by over 500 million people around the world and is widely recognized as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Since then, public attention has largely moved to other areas.[3]... " |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 8:24:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DougH9:
I can see how oxygen, water, carbon, steel and glass could be readily available on Mars, but what about the nitrogen that makes up 80-some percent of what we breathe? |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 12:01:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Is your mindset of the socialists/commies who want to erase history in favor of the new utopia, or are you just a product of late model public education? (The two might go hand in hand, actually) "The Space Age began with the development of several technologies that converged with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik 1 by the Soviet Union. This was the world's first artificial satellite, orbiting the Earth in 98.1 minutes and weighing 83 kg (183 lb). The launch of Sputnik 1 ushered in a new era of political, scientific and technological achievements that became known as the Space Age.[2] The Space Age was characterized by rapid development of new technology in a close race mostly between the United States and the Soviet Union. Rapid advances were made in rocketry, materials science, computers and other areas. Much of the technology originally developed for space applications has been spun off and found additional uses, memory foam is an example of this. The Space Age reached its peak with the Apollo program, that captured the imagination of much of the world's population. The landing of Apollo 11 was watched by over 500 million people around the world and is widely recognized as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Since then, public attention has largely moved to other areas.[3]... " Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Originally Posted By AJ_Dual: Casey's blog is excellent... This is 100% hyperbolic optimism, IMO, but if SpaceX realizes even a fraction of what Casey is talking about here with Starship, it's going to be revolutionary, and will definitely be the marked point that humanity's "space age" really started. Everything before Starship is going to look like the Wright Brothers hops on Kitty Hawk in terms of aviation analogies. https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/29/the-spacex-starship-is-a-very-big-deal/ "The Space Age began with the development of several technologies that converged with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik 1 by the Soviet Union. This was the world's first artificial satellite, orbiting the Earth in 98.1 minutes and weighing 83 kg (183 lb). The launch of Sputnik 1 ushered in a new era of political, scientific and technological achievements that became known as the Space Age.[2] The Space Age was characterized by rapid development of new technology in a close race mostly between the United States and the Soviet Union. Rapid advances were made in rocketry, materials science, computers and other areas. Much of the technology originally developed for space applications has been spun off and found additional uses, memory foam is an example of this. The Space Age reached its peak with the Apollo program, that captured the imagination of much of the world's population. The landing of Apollo 11 was watched by over 500 million people around the world and is widely recognized as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Since then, public attention has largely moved to other areas.[3]... " |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 12:09:02 PM EDT
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I don't get the comment about Starship being able to launch 400 Starlinks, that's only useful if either they're planning on having 400 spacecraft per plane or if they do an expensive RAAN (3-4 km/s) change with the upper stage so they can do two planes at once.
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Posted: 11/2/2019 12:35:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Casey's blog is excellent... This is 100% hyperbolic optimism, IMO, but if SpaceX realizes even a fraction of what Casey is talking about here with Starship, it's going to be revolutionary, and will definitely be the marked point that humanity's "space age" really started. Everything before Starship is going to look like the Wright Brothers hops on Kitty Hawk in terms of aviation analogies. https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/29/the-spacex-starship-is-a-very-big-deal/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Originally Posted By BigPony:
Interesting article on radiation exposure/risks for Mars Mission https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/20/omg-space-is-full-of-radiation-and-why-im-not-worried/ https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/29/the-spacex-starship-is-a-very-big-deal/ Starship and starlink work and SpaceX becomes a multi-trillion dollar company. I wish I could invest in it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 12:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Armed_Scientist:
I don't get the comment about Starship being able to launch 400 Starlinks, that's only useful if either they're planning on having 400 spacecraft per plane or if they do an expensive RAAN (3-4 km/s) change with the upper stage so they can do two planes at once. |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 3:38:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Yobro512]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Is your mindset of the socialists/commies who want to erase history in favor of the new utopia, or are you just a product of late model public education? (The two might go hand in hand, actually) "The Space Age began with the development of several technologies that converged with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik 1 by the Soviet Union. This was the world's first artificial satellite, orbiting the Earth in 98.1 minutes and weighing 83 kg (183 lb). The launch of Sputnik 1 ushered in a new era of political, scientific and technological achievements that became known as the Space Age.[2] The Space Age was characterized by rapid development of new technology in a close race mostly between the United States and the Soviet Union. Rapid advances were made in rocketry, materials science, computers and other areas. Much of the technology originally developed for space applications has been spun off and found additional uses, memory foam is an example of this. The Space Age reached its peak with the Apollo program, that captured the imagination of much of the world's population. The landing of Apollo 11 was watched by over 500 million people around the world and is widely recognized as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Since then, public attention has largely moved to other areas.[3]... " Because the US spent 4% of its GDP and managed to land on the moon and bring astronauts back alive doesn’t make it the same as when we will be able to simply fill up a reusable craft and send us back to the moon with a 100 ton payload 2x a month for 1/50th the cost. |
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Posted: 11/2/2019 3:44:19 PM EDT
[#31]
On LabPadres secondary cam looks like they are starting to work on mk3
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Posted: 11/2/2019 9:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
And that will be the equivalent of magellan going cross global to me getting on a plane to Berlin for vacation when starship starts the game will be 100% different. Because the US spent 4% of its GDP and managed to land on the moon and bring astronauts back alive doesn’t make it the same as when we will be able to simply fill up a reusable craft and send us back to the moon with a 100 ton payload 2x a month for 1/50th the cost. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Is your mindset of the socialists/commies who want to erase history in favor of the new utopia, or are you just a product of late model public education? (The two might go hand in hand, actually) "The Space Age began with the development of several technologies that converged with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik 1 by the Soviet Union. This was the world's first artificial satellite, orbiting the Earth in 98.1 minutes and weighing 83 kg (183 lb). The launch of Sputnik 1 ushered in a new era of political, scientific and technological achievements that became known as the Space Age.[2] The Space Age was characterized by rapid development of new technology in a close race mostly between the United States and the Soviet Union. Rapid advances were made in rocketry, materials science, computers and other areas. Much of the technology originally developed for space applications has been spun off and found additional uses, memory foam is an example of this. The Space Age reached its peak with the Apollo program, that captured the imagination of much of the world's population. The landing of Apollo 11 was watched by over 500 million people around the world and is widely recognized as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Since then, public attention has largely moved to other areas.[3]... " Because the US spent 4% of its GDP and managed to land on the moon and bring astronauts back alive doesn’t make it the same as when we will be able to simply fill up a reusable craft and send us back to the moon with a 100 ton payload 2x a month for 1/50th the cost. |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 1:14:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: So, you people are in fact on a mission to belittle the accomplishments of the past. 
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Posted: 11/3/2019 1:55:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual:
If butthurt was rocket fuel, you'd have a specific impulse over 1000. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: So, you people are in fact on a mission to belittle the accomplishments of the past. We're bound to create utopia if we can rid the world of that pesky history. |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 11:49:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: So, you people are in fact on a mission to belittle the accomplishments of the past. |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 12:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigPony:
No, it was a response to someone belittling the accomplishments to come. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigPony:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: So, you people are in fact on a mission to belittle the accomplishments of the past. |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 1:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: That wasn't the intent. The intent was to put everything in perspective. |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 1:37:12 PM EDT
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And to think with modern computer aided design NASA and their industry partners can't even seem recreate the Saturn V that was designed with slide rules.
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Posted: 11/3/2019 1:41:32 PM EDT
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I can’t believe you guys fall for Elon Mush’s bullshit. That I clearly a silo he is building for his new corn farm ethanol batteries which he plans to sell to North Korea. SpaceX is a sham company front for corn battery development
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Posted: 11/3/2019 1:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord:
And to think with modern computer aided design NASA and their industry partners can't even seem recreate the Saturn V that was designed with slide rules. Starship will be able to get a 150 tonne payload from a 5000 tonne rocket (3℅ payload mass fraction) even with margins for full recovery. Saturn V was able to get 120 tonnes from a 3000 tonne GLOW (4℅) |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 2:29:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigPony:
And it is all irrelevant as Landing on Mars and establishing an outpost will dwarf all other things man has ever done in space. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigPony:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: That wasn't the intent. The intent was to put everything in perspective. Feel free to keep on belittling, I'm done arguing about this. |
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Posted: 11/3/2019 6:03:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: On the shoulders of giants, and all that. Feel free to keep on belittling, I'm done arguing about this. |
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Posted: 11/4/2019 3:00:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD:
I can’t believe you guys fall for Elon Mush’s bullshit. That I clearly a silo he is building for his new corn farm ethanol batteries which he plans to sell to North Korea. SpaceX is a sham company front for corn battery development |
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Posted: 11/4/2019 3:04:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord:
And to think with modern computer aided design NASA and their industry partners can't even seem recreate the Saturn V that was designed with slide rules. |
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Posted: 11/4/2019 6:40:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By webtaz99:
I see what you are saying, but there is no point to recreate the Saturn V. Totally expendable rockets are dead now. Regardless, if we could create the Saturn V in five years from drawing board to operational launch with said slide rules, there is no reason any current manufacturer shouldn't be able to repeat that process with everything available to them today. |
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Posted: 11/4/2019 6:57:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grand58742:
Please explain the SLS then... Regardless, if we could create the Saturn V in five years from drawing board to operational launch with said slide rules, there is no reason any current manufacturer shouldn't be able to repeat that process with everything available to them today. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grand58742:
Originally Posted By webtaz99:
I see what you are saying, but there is no point to recreate the Saturn V. Totally expendable rockets are dead now. Regardless, if we could create the Saturn V in five years from drawing board to operational launch with said slide rules, there is no reason any current manufacturer shouldn't be able to repeat that process with everything available to them today. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:22:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grand58742:
Please explain the SLS then... Regardless, if we could create the Saturn V in five years from drawing board to operational launch with said slide rules, there is no reason any current manufacturer shouldn't be able to repeat that process with everything available to them today. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grand58742:
Originally Posted By webtaz99:
I see what you are saying, but there is no point to recreate the Saturn V. Totally expendable rockets are dead now. Regardless, if we could create the Saturn V in five years from drawing board to operational launch with said slide rules, there is no reason any current manufacturer shouldn't be able to repeat that process with everything available to them today. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 6:45:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By couchlord:
And to think with modern computer aided design NASA and their industry partners can't even seem recreate the Saturn V that was designed with slide rules. Besides the F1 was a powerful engine but is not as efficient as what can be built today. Take some time to look up gas genrator cycle engines (F1 style) staged combustion gas generator cycle (new hotness). Liquid rocket engines are basically very high pressure pumps that also have to combine volatile things together without exploding. If the SLS wasn't a jobs program it "should have been easy" to integrate a bunch of parts from the shuttle program into an expendable heavy lift rocket. But SLS was designed from the ground up to be a jobs program to award money to certain districts. The companies are going to test and build the ever-living-shit out of every single bolt, flange and panel until we get tired of paying for it. If we are lucky we will get a couple test flights before it is canceled for being too expensive. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 8:26:10 PM EDT
[#49]
Indeed it should have been easy. Heck the technology was already capable of doing Mars in the 80's.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 1:42:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Grand58742: Please explain the SLS then... Regardless, if we could create the Saturn V in five years from drawing board to operational launch with said slide rules, there is no reason any current manufacturer shouldn't be able to repeat that process with everything available to them today. Machining is different now. The tools they used then are utterly different and inferior than the tools we use now. |
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