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Posted: 11/6/2019 12:00:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: Literally impossible. Machining is different now. The tools they used then are utterly different and inferior than the tools we use now.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 1:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort:
If you want to see something cool look up friction stir welding. It is the welding process that is being used to weld the aluminum fuel tanks on the SLS. Unfortunately the process was not perfected before they started welding the flight test hardware. Troubleshooting and redoing the friction-stir welds ate up a lot of time. Apparently regular aluminum welding is not as strong as the surrounding material so they had to come up with something new and novel.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNbQH8XBgxQQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort:
Originally Posted By Yobro512: Literally impossible. Machining is different now. The tools they used then are utterly different and inferior than the tools we use now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNbQH8XBgxQ |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 1:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chairborne: Nothing about friction stir welding is new, it's been in use for decades. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2019 2:58:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Is your mindset of the socialists/commies who want to erase history in favor of the new utopia, or are you just a product of late model public education? (The two might go hand in hand, actually) "The Space Age began with the development of several technologies that converged with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik 1 by the Soviet Union. This was the world's first artificial satellite, orbiting the Earth in 98.1 minutes and weighing 83 kg (183 lb). The launch of Sputnik 1 ushered in a new era of political, scientific and technological achievements that became known as the Space Age.[2] The Space Age was characterized by rapid development of new technology in a close race mostly between the United States and the Soviet Union. Rapid advances were made in rocketry, materials science, computers and other areas. Much of the technology originally developed for space applications has been spun off and found additional uses, memory foam is an example of this. The Space Age reached its peak with the Apollo program, that captured the imagination of much of the world's population. The landing of Apollo 11 was watched by over 500 million people around the world and is widely recognized as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Since then, public attention has largely moved to other areas.[3]... " Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Originally Posted By AJ_Dual: Casey's blog is excellent... This is 100% hyperbolic optimism, IMO, but if SpaceX realizes even a fraction of what Casey is talking about here with Starship, it's going to be revolutionary, and will definitely be the marked point that humanity's "space age" really started. Everything before Starship is going to look like the Wright Brothers hops on Kitty Hawk in terms of aviation analogies. https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2019/10/29/the-spacex-starship-is-a-very-big-deal/ "The Space Age began with the development of several technologies that converged with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik 1 by the Soviet Union. This was the world's first artificial satellite, orbiting the Earth in 98.1 minutes and weighing 83 kg (183 lb). The launch of Sputnik 1 ushered in a new era of political, scientific and technological achievements that became known as the Space Age.[2] The Space Age was characterized by rapid development of new technology in a close race mostly between the United States and the Soviet Union. Rapid advances were made in rocketry, materials science, computers and other areas. Much of the technology originally developed for space applications has been spun off and found additional uses, memory foam is an example of this. The Space Age reached its peak with the Apollo program, that captured the imagination of much of the world's population. The landing of Apollo 11 was watched by over 500 million people around the world and is widely recognized as one of the defining moments of the 20th century. Since then, public attention has largely moved to other areas.[3]... " OK BOOMER |
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Posted: 11/6/2019 9:17:33 PM EDT
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SpaceX begins Starship launch mount installation at historic Pad 39A in Florida
"At the same time as SpaceX’s Boca Chica, Texas team is working around the clock to prepare Starship Mk1 for several major tests, the company is building a second dedicated Starship launch complex at Pad 39A and as of November 4th, that construction effort has reached a symbolic milestone. According to photos taken by local resident and famed rocket and ship photographer Julia Bergeron on a bus tour of Kennedy Space Center (KSC), SpaceX has officially begun to install a large steel structure at Launch Complex 39A, a pad the company has leased from NASA since 2014. Known as a launch mount, the massive structure will one day support SpaceX’s first East Coast Starship and Super Heavy static fires and test flights." |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/6/2019 9:57:48 PM EDT
[#6]
We’re going to mars dude!
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Posted: 11/7/2019 9:21:30 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
We’re going to mars dude! 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/7/2019 8:17:03 PM EDT
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If mars is step one it will always get cancelled halfway through.
Get a moon base. If the moon is more harsh than mars good. Overbuild our shit for the moon and make Mars that much easier. The logistics of mars makes it an incredibly hard commitment of probably 100+billion. The moon is child’s play. It’s a week away at any point. We can just shotgun habitats and landers at will. The whole point of the LOP-G was to get Congress “most” of the way there. So they’d feel obligated to fund a lander. |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 8:53:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mort:
If you want to see something cool look up friction stir welding. It is the welding process that is being used to weld the aluminum fuel tanks on the SLS. Unfortunately the process was not perfected before they started welding the flight test hardware. Troubleshooting and redoing the friction-stir welds ate up a lot of time. Apparently regular aluminum welding is not as strong as the surrounding material so they had to come up with something new and novel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNbQH8XBgxQ |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 9:32:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Chairborne]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ErikS:
How does it get depth in the weld. I know it does but it looks like a cold surface weld to my laymen eyes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ErikS:
Originally Posted By mort:
If you want to see something cool look up friction stir welding. It is the welding process that is being used to weld the aluminum fuel tanks on the SLS. Unfortunately the process was not perfected before they started welding the flight test hardware. Troubleshooting and redoing the friction-stir welds ate up a lot of time. Apparently regular aluminum welding is not as strong as the surrounding material so they had to come up with something new and novel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNbQH8XBgxQ |
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Posted: 11/7/2019 9:44:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chairborne: It’s not welding like traditional welding. There is no arc or filler added, the super hard little bit is spun very rapidly and actually mixes the edges of the metal like a tiny bowl of cake batter. Go look at the exhaust of any turbine aircraft built since Vietnam, you’ll see it. |
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Posted: 11/8/2019 12:14:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
If mars is step one it will always get cancelled halfway through. Get a moon base. If the moon is more harsh than mars good. Overbuild our shit for the moon and make Mars that much easier. The logistics of mars makes it an incredibly hard commitment of probably 100+billion. The moon is child’s play. It’s a week away at any point. We can just shotgun habitats and landers at will. The whole point of the LOP-G was to get Congress “most” of the way there. So they’d feel obligated to fund a lander. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/9/2019 11:11:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigPony: Moon is step one for both SpaceX and Nasa |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2019 4:59:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
If mars is step one it will always get cancelled halfway through. Get a moon base. If the moon is more harsh than mars good. Overbuild our shit for the moon and make Mars that much easier. The logistics of mars makes it an incredibly hard commitment of probably 100+billion. The moon is child’s play. It’s a week away at any point. We can just shotgun habitats and landers at will. The whole point of the LOP-G was to get Congress “most” of the way there. So they’d feel obligated to fund a lander. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2019 6:14:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Neotopiaman: Starship was purposely designed to be an extremely capable and economical LEO launch platform that happens to be able to go to the moon and mars as well. If it’s anywhere close to 25x times more than that it will be a watershed moment in all history. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/11/2019 10:37:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Yobro512]
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Launch today broheims.
https://youtu.be/WkQROzg78o0 |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 10:46:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
Launch today broheims. https://youtu.be/WkQROzg78o0 https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2233736_Official-SpaceX-launch-thread-Falcon-9-Starlink-1-11-Nov-2019-9-51-AM-EST.html |
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Posted: 11/11/2019 8:25:11 PM EDT
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Glad I checked this thread, 'accidentally the whole thing' on my subscribed launch schedule.
I'm about always home and have only missed a few launches. Never get tired of watching them, and, the booster landings. Thanks for your updates Chokey. |
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Posted: 11/12/2019 9:15:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/12/2019 9:21:21 AM EDT
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8 hour road closure tomorrow. Suspicions are that they will be doing a buncha tank testing on lower and eventually mating the upper and lower, and quite possibly the raptors will show up. Fingers crossed!
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Posted: 11/12/2019 12:24:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
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Posted: 11/12/2019 6:19:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigPony]
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It can't rud. Mk1 is the internet's baby
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2019 1:34:13 AM EDT
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Great googly moogly. That thing is beautiful.
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Posted: 11/15/2019 8:56:02 PM EDT
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SpaceX Starship Mk1 - Preparing for Fueling Tests - November 14, 2019
Starship Mk1 is now preparing for cryo loading tests in the coming days, which will mark fuel tests ahead of the testing with her three Raptor engines. |
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Posted: 11/15/2019 10:54:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/16/2019 8:27:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
. The moon is child’s play. It’s a week away at any point. We can just shotgun habitats and landers at will. . |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2019 3:50:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpanishInquisition: If it takes you a week to get to Luna, you are doing it wrong. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2019 3:59:12 PM EDT
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elon mush defraudIng the tax payers yet again. 20 BiLliOn in subsidies to build a flying water tank that will neVer taE people to SPACE let alone Mars.
sls, now that is the future of american space, brought to us by wholesome american companies who aren't defrauding the american taX payers |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2019 4:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD:
elon mush defraudIng the tax payers yet again. 20 BiLliOn in subsidies to build a flying water tank that will neVer taE people to SPACE let alone Mars. sls, now that is the future of american space, brought to us by wholesome american companies who aren't defrauding the american taX payers |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2019 4:09:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: mORe lIKE 30 bilLIons |
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Posted: 11/16/2019 5:15:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512: That only goes to prove my point more so. |
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Posted: 11/16/2019 6:29:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Darkstar117]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD:
elon mush defraudIng the tax payers yet again. 20 BiLliOn in subsidies to build a flying water tank that will neVer taE people to SPACE let alone Mars. sls, now that is the future of american space, brought to us by wholesome american companies who aren't defrauding the american taX payers 
When was the last time ULA has had an on-time launch? Wait...that question may be a little hard, because it has never happened... When was the last time ULA has had an on-budget launch? Wait...that question may be a little hard, because it has never happened... Sorry, those questions are a little bit unfair... Just exactly how many billions of dollars over-budget is SLS right now? Wait...maybe that was the wrong question... Just how many YEARS is SLS behind their promised schedule? Keep fapping to the people who OPENLY piss down your back, and then tell you that it's raining. They like that. |
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Posted: 11/16/2019 6:47:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD:
elon mush defraudIng the tax payers yet again. 20 BiLliOn in subsidies to build a flying water tank that will neVer taE people to SPACE let alone Mars. sls, now that is the future of american space, brought to us by wholesome american companies who aren't defrauding the american taX payers 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/16/2019 11:32:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chairborne: Hey look guys, it’s another Musk ball gargler who doesn’t understand that SpaceX can be a raging success and Tesla a roaring dumpster fire, all at the same time. SpaceX is literally defining the future of humanity and Tesla makes unreliable RC cars. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 12:43:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
I agree. I couldn’t care less about fucking Tesla. SpaceX is literally defining the future of humanity and Tesla makes unreliable RC cars. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By Chairborne: Hey look guys, it’s another Musk ball gargler who doesn’t understand that SpaceX can be a raging success and Tesla a roaring dumpster fire, all at the same time. SpaceX is literally defining the future of humanity and Tesla makes unreliable RC cars. Spare me the drama. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2019 12:54:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Defining the future of humanity? Spare me the drama. A far less motivated ULA (which is scary) having a near monopoly on US govt launches. A blue origin being farther behind than it is right now. Still years away from an orbital ship. The whole world still refusing to believe rockets can be reused and that launches will always be an order of magnitude more expensive than they actually are. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 1:13:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
Imagine a world without SpaceX right now. A far less motivated ULA (which is scary) having a near monopoly on US govt launches. A blue origin being farther behind than it is right now. Still years away from an orbital ship. The whole world still refusing to believe rockets can be reused and that launches will always be an order of magnitude more expensive than they actually are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Defining the future of humanity? Spare me the drama. A far less motivated ULA (which is scary) having a near monopoly on US govt launches. A blue origin being farther behind than it is right now. Still years away from an orbital ship. The whole world still refusing to believe rockets can be reused and that launches will always be an order of magnitude more expensive than they actually are. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 1:23:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Spacex has no affect on my life. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Originally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb: Defining the future of humanity? Spare me the drama. A far less motivated ULA (which is scary) having a near monopoly on US govt launches. A blue origin being farther behind than it is right now. Still years away from an orbital ship. The whole world still refusing to believe rockets can be reused and that launches will always be an order of magnitude more expensive than they actually are.  You sure spend a lot of time in this thread for someone with little interest or regard for SpaceX. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 1:43:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Defining the future of humanity? Spare me the drama. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Originally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By Chairborne: Hey look guys, it’s another Musk ball gargler who doesn’t understand that SpaceX can be a raging success and Tesla a roaring dumpster fire, all at the same time. SpaceX is literally defining the future of humanity and Tesla makes unreliable RC cars. Spare me the drama. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 2:12:19 AM EDT
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If Starships launch costs are even remotely close to where they’re projecting, it beats everything else out there by a parsec. It takes NASA five years to test and certify a parachute. Where as SpaceX is building a heavy lift vehicle in a dirt field and running constant live tests.
As soon as they start hauling 400 Starlink satellites at a time up with their reusable starship vehicle, it’s game over for One Web and Amazons Kupiter project. That program is going to be a money generating machine that will push their valuation up near a trillion dollars. This is finally 21st century tech we were promised. It sure as fuck beats the Snuggie. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 11:16:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey:
The push that SpaceX is making right now is most likely what will ensure the continued existence of humanity as we begin to permanently leave this rock. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadMonkey:
Originally Posted By wtfboombrb:
Originally Posted By Yobro512:
Originally Posted By Chairborne: Hey look guys, it’s another Musk ball gargler who doesn’t understand that SpaceX can be a raging success and Tesla a roaring dumpster fire, all at the same time. SpaceX is literally defining the future of humanity and Tesla makes unreliable RC cars. Spare me the drama. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 12:16:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Spacex has no affect on my life. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 12:58:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: False idols are exactly what I'm talking about. 
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Posted: 11/17/2019 2:43:40 PM EDT
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Blue Devil is pulling yall leg
He loves spaces. Read his caps... Any who SpaceX>Boeing |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2019 3:33:09 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Spacex has no affect on my life. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2019 3:35:48 PM EDT
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Back on topic, SpaceX is preparing for pressurization tests on Mk.1 NET tomorrow..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98SbEPTYpk |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 8:01:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: Spacex has no affect on my life. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 8:02:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wtfboombrb: False idols are exactly what I'm talking about. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 8:54:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StrangerDanger:
This is finally 21st century tech we were promised. It sure as fuck beats the Snuggie. |
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Posted: 11/17/2019 9:14:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BigPony]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Back on topic, SpaceX is preparing for pressurization tests on Mk.1 NET tomorrow..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98SbEPTYpk
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