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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:49:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: I must have been watching the wrong dang channel. Had NSF on the big tv. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RiverSwine45: Originally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By RiverSwine45: I so badly want to see the coarse and altitude tracking for this. Crazy it stayed together. The telemetry display was 'interesting' I must have been watching the wrong dang channel. Had NSF on the big tv. SpaceX had the angle and several other things on the bottom of the screen... it all disappeared when shit started going sideways. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:49:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: 6 out Rewatching it looks like 2 blew on the pad at take off they said during the cast (if I heard it correctly) 3 were out but they were cycling through the engines. didn't say why. I would assume cycling the engines balances the fuel load? Tank pressures? heat? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:49:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack_Rackham: I'm so confused. Why cheering? Mission basically succeeded the second it cleared the launch complex, so SpaceX now has a mountain of data to improve and iterate the next design update. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:50:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE: Yeah they definitely lost a couple of them early.  Looks like 3 were out by time it cleared the tower. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:51:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fulcrum-5: Mission basically succeeded the second it cleared the launch complex, so SpaceX now has a mountain of data to improve and iterate the next design update. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fulcrum-5: Originally Posted By Jack_Rackham: I'm so confused. Why cheering? Mission basically succeeded the second it cleared the launch complex, so SpaceX now has a mountain of data to improve and iterate the next design update. That and they were probably ordered to cheer as long as nobody died. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:51:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: It started losing engines in a very short order and you could see them eating themselves on the way up. They have a lot of work to do to sort that out. Yes, I hope the things they learned don't teach them that they have made major design errors, but smaller issues that can be resolved. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:52:14 AM EDT
[#7]
They promised excitement.
Promise delivered |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:53:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Master_of_Orion]
[#8]
Clearing the tower was the measure of success. It did it and made it through MaxQ (where increasing air resistance from acceleration produces the maximum pressure on the rocket as the atmosphere thins rapidly from that point on)
Several engines failed, but it still had plenty to continue. Main engine shut off before separation should have occurred but seemed to have some sort of issue... as some engines seemed to still be firing. Separation should have occurred but seems to have failed. Booster started trying to flip backwards to boost back for its "landing" but with Starship still attached the whole thing began spinning. Eventually the Flight Termination System was triggered. Boom! |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:53:22 AM EDT
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Is the launch tower leaning a little or is that the perspective of this feed I'm watching (NSF)?
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:55:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:55:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Is the launch tower leaning a little or is that the perspective of this feed I'm watching (NSF)? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:55:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Just10mm]
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That was one of the most awesome things I’ve ever seen!
Those clamps are stronk! What a privilege it is to witness an actual achievement that isn’t a clown world shit show. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:56:13 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: Ok, who’s is going to get fired? Some engineers fucked up royally. Yeah that's not how this works. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:56:34 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paulie771: Is the launch tower leaning a little or is that the perspective of this feed I'm watching (NSF)? Perspective, that camera always looks a little tilted. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:57:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Chokey]
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:58:03 AM EDT
[#16]
Altitude looks to have peaked at 39km and they 420'd it at 30km
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:58:14 AM EDT
[#17]
In for a post launch concrete survey. Im guessing that some of those debris we saw was concrete from under where the thing sat on the pad running up the engines before it moved.
Im surprised how long it sat there before the clamps released. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:58:26 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: Ok, who’s is going to get fired? Some engineers fucked up royally. Welcome to Costco. I love you. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:01:00 AM EDT
[#19]
The WB-57 should have gotten some great video, I hope it gets released to the public.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:01:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Paulie771]
[#20]
Mission control audio if you're interested. Launch occurs shortly after 1:59:
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:01:37 AM EDT
[#21]
 Attached File |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:01:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinLeg: Holy cow. That was electrifying. Will say though - it didn’t sound right. It wasn’t “smooth”. If it was a gasoline engine I’d say it was missing on one or more cylinders - is best way o can describe it. Well it was only running on 30 of the 33 cylinders so maybe?
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:02:22 AM EDT
[#23]
NSF van got fucked up with debris.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:02:45 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryShould the yellow flames have been there or is that from things burning that are not supposed to be? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:03:52 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE: Should the yellow flames have been there or is that from things burning that are not supposed to be? Engine rich exhaust?
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:05:20 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: this was a cool shot https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuKWNJoaMAEvCvD?format=png&name=900x900 |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:06:23 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77: Couldn't tell if it was ice from the booster or bits from the OLP but there was definitely stuff flying around near the pad. Yep. Some pretty big debris were flying really high. I foresee some pretty substantial changes to exhaust redirecting on the pad |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:07:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Yeah that's not how this works. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalGarand44: Originally Posted By Shadyman: Ok, who’s is going to get fired? Some engineers fucked up royally. Yeah that's not how this works. Would be neat to work at a place where everyone is so excited and personally invested in the success But then I have heard that Elon demands a lot of time at work. Weekends included. So probably a good bit of burnout |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:07:36 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJE: Should the yellow flames have been there or is that from things burning that are not supposed to be? Do remember that the engines on this booster were early production Raptors and the ones coming off the line now are better. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:08:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: I was looking at that when it was live. Looks like 7 engines not operating for some reason. Five on the outside and one in the middle. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:08:16 AM EDT
[#31]
Some poor schmuck at SpaceX forgot to put a check in the box titled "Allow stage separation"
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:09:07 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_of_Orion: That's from engines experiencing "issues" What issues precisely we don't know. They shouldn't happen during a completely nominal flight. Do remember that the engines on this booster were early production Raptors and the ones coming off the line now are better. Earlier ones yes but were they raptor ones or the 2nd gen,? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:09:11 AM EDT
[#33]
That was awesome.
 Where did the parts land? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:09:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: That was awesome. Where did the parts land? Everywhere
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:09:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: Engine rich exhaust? Orange yellow is just less than full combustion. Green is engine rich. There were definitely some extra pops of engines or something letting go though |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:11:36 AM EDT
[#36]
Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 20, 2023 |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:11:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: Orange yellow is just less than full combustion. Green is engine rich. There were definitely some extra pops of engines or something letting go though There was also a wierd offset flame way behind it to one side. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:12:15 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_of_Orion: That's from engines experiencing "issues" What issues precisely we don't know. They shouldn't happen during a completely nominal flight. Do remember that the engines on this booster were early production Raptors and the ones coming off the line now are better. In the first picture in post #15 above (Chokey's post) is the reddish flame a possible sign of an abnormal combustion? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:12:21 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: NSF van got fucked up with debris. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:12:59 AM EDT
[#40]
The world needs more people like Elon. Dreamers who get shit done.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:13:25 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: NSF van got fucked up with debris. Tim Dodd and his lady friend had sand blow all over them and their equipment 5 miles away from the launch site. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sailboat: Pictures or source? Where is everyone getting their info besides SpaceX? Nsf is one of the streamers, so presumably that stream. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:15:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sailboat: Pictures or source? Where is everyone getting their info besides SpaceX? Nsf and lab Padre streams showed it. Looked like it got caved in by debris. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:16:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cgrant26: Yep. Some pretty big debris were flying really high. I foresee some pretty substantial changes to exhaust redirecting on the pad Some of the booster engine skirting was blown off before it cleared the tower from the looks of it. I bet that pad is a fucking mess. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:17:28 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sailboat: Pictures or source? Where is everyone getting their info besides SpaceX? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:17:39 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sailboat: Pictures or source? Where is everyone getting their info besides SpaceX? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sailboat: Originally Posted By Dagger41: NSF van got fucked up with debris. NSF showed it on their feed for just a sec.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:17:51 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Some of the booster engine skirting was blown off before it cleared the tower from the looks of it. I bet that pad is a fucking mess. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Originally Posted By cgrant26: Yep. Some pretty big debris were flying really high. I foresee some pretty substantial changes to exhaust redirecting on the pad Some of the booster engine skirting was blown off before it cleared the tower from the looks of it. I bet that pad is a fucking mess. I remember thinking back when it was just a render that it looked like a lousy design. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:18:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sailboat: Pictures or source? Where is everyone getting their info besides SpaceX?  Full Replay: SpaceX Launches Starship Flight Test  WATCH LIVE?? - Starship Orbital Test Flight From Starbase, Texas - COMMENTARY  Watch SpaceX launch Starship, the biggest rocket ever, LIVE |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:18:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fox2008: You can see the debris pretty good in this video
Damn, that camera is shaking like crazy for the sound waves. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:19:20 AM EDT
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I read where they were going to hold it on the launch mount for up to 8 seconds after engine ignition for some reason. I guess to make sure enough engines were running to get it off the pad. They definitely torched the crap outta the pad!!! LOLOLOL!!!
I can't wait to see the stage 0 damage assessment. -ZA |
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